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Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 149. (Read 262906 times)

MOB
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Nicehash and westhash are the best places to mining with your script ASIC or sha256 ASIC hardware miners. You get paid by the share and you get paid in BTC at least once a day depending on how much your Hashrate is.

Those pools are awesome.

Gaw's lost but I think gaw will come up with something to make up the difference...can we say zen256hash pool? Hehe!

The best thing was to buy the hashlets at $15.99 back in the beginning. If you would have loaded up with them back then you would be in a better position.


The fact that they relied so much on nicehash bothers me. I don't think they'll be able to create an equivalent alternative to use for their own. Because, even nicehash wouldn't have been anything with the people putting orders for hashrate, let alone that I don't think GAW has the resources,time and people with enough knowledge to build something like that.

I think you are forgetting about their highly trained businessmen.  They eat average Joe pool owner for breakfast.

Joking aside, they do not need to recreate nicehash. They just need to find some way to offer decent payouts that have a chance in hell of ROI.  They can do that with Zenpool256 without needing to make anything other than a webpage and an algorithm of their own devising.

Back to mining BURST for me.  It pays out better than hashlets so far!
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the one thing that is odd to me is this

gawminers.com = http://gawminers.com/pages/faq = bottom of the page it says : Q: Where is your company located? = A: 34 E Dudley Town Road, Bloomfield, CT 06002
then if you go to http://oneminer.com/ = they say they are not part of gawminers but they are ran out of the same building ?
oneminer : http://oneminer.com/pages/faq = ONE MINER RMA DEPT 34 East Dudley Town Road, Bloomfield, CT 06002

but then on hashtalk : https://hashtalk.org/topic/673/oneminer-com
the CEO says they want to talk about the new project they have.

meanwhile on the : http://oneminer.com/pages/faq it says the following
Is GAWMiners.com affiliated with OneMiner.com?

They are not affiliated in any way. No deals can be transferred at any time between the two websites. GAWMiners.com store credit and rewards points are not valid on OneMiner.com and cannot be used toward any purchases at any time.


so what one is it ?
are you guys part of the same company ?
are you guys not part of the same company ?

that's quite normal. You can have different subsidiaries/sister companies. At the top, they are owned by the same person/group/etc, but for all legal matters they are different companies. Quite common I believe.
but yeah, Josh has contradicted himself a few times about what oneminer is/is not.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I did this on another thread and I am quoting it here.

New edit:
 I want to say that the bounty question was caused by my rush . Eric of zen mentioned to not post details here on bitcointalk. I had a miscommunication with him  and posted details my bad. Eric then said the would not pay the bounty.
  Frankly talking on pm's at 1:00 am
was my mistake I was tired and misunderstood Eric.  Posting so fast was a mistake on my part.  I got a lot of people going in lots of directions over this.  I know I pissed off Eric and he said no bounty.  To defend him it was late at night I dropped a bombshell on him and spam filters caused a lot of people a lot of grief.
  on the good side some real fixes are offered to this problem in the discussion on hashtalk.org so for now no nicehash but this idea below has promise

https://hashtalk.org/topic/5145/nicehash-sha256/737?page=39


since westhash/nicehash had rapid price flux someone proposed  a one month average I thought a diff jump length may be enough to fix it. cost of driving price up 10 or 11 days in a row would be more then enough and easier to detect.


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sr. member
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CEO FlawMiners TM®
Anyone want to help me with the Anti-Gaw Campaign? I will start organizing it tonight, just message me!
I'm going to start with a blog and a bitcointalk signature campaign!
This is happening because of EvilPanda and BitGeek not shutting their mouths.



No

Well thats fine, I already got about 5 messages and I'm going to ask the multipool owners and GAW's competition if they want in on it too.
Thanks EvilPanda and BitGeek!

Social media would be a great way to expose their business practices. It was also fishy when they gained most of their customers from this site and decided to not use it anymore, I guess they have all the control on hashtalk and nothing is saved to be used legally in the future if needed..
sr. member
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batch 2 VB's would be available 30 days or so after batch 1.

THIS IS VERY TRICKY WORDING. When will the VB1 become available is the question? I gave up on this company when they lied to people about 1: bringbackroi 2: stopped selling physical miners 3: sold most of us a Raspberry Pi that failed. Now this hashlet is VERY SCARY that Gavin had to question it (and cloud mining in general... his question was on a post about GAW or hashlet).

When they did sell physical miners I did praise them and thought they were a good company that cared for their customers, I would love to hear who did ROI from the promo BRINGBACKROI. I also thought many trading sites were good too and did learn a valuable lesson..

Some of us learn fast and so of us do not learn at all.

I have great respect for many on this forum that ask PROPER questions, suchmoon thank you for your post here and that you address issues that you see with this company.

Yup, some of us have learned very quickly to discount what your troll ass says on these forums.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Nicehash and westhash are the best places to mining with your script ASIC or sha256 ASIC hardware miners. You get paid by the share and you get paid in BTC at least once a day depending on how much your Hashrate is.

Those pools are awesome.

Gaw's lost but I think gaw will come up with something to make up the difference...can we say zen256hash pool? Hehe!

The best thing was to buy the hashlets at $15.99 back in the beginning. If you would have loaded up with them back then you would be in a better position.


The fact that they relied so much on nicehash bothers me. I don't think they'll be able to create an equivalent alternative to use for their own. Because, even nicehash wouldn't have been anything with the people putting orders for hashrate, let alone that I don't think GAW has the resources,time and people with enough knowledge to build something like that.
sr. member
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CEO FlawMiners TM®
 batch 2 VB's would be available 30 days or so after batch 1.

THIS IS VERY TRICKY WORDING. When will the VB1 become available is the question? I gave up on this company when they lied to people about 1: bringbackroi 2: stopped selling physical miners 3: sold most of us a Raspberry Pi that failed. Now this hashlet is VERY SCARY that Gavin had to question it (and cloud mining in general... his question was on a post about GAW or hashlet).

When they did sell physical miners I did praise them and thought they were a good company that cared for their customers, I would love to hear who did ROI from the promo BRINGBACKROI. I also thought many trading sites were good too and did learn a valuable lesson..

Some of us learn fast and so of us do not learn at all.

I have great respect for many on this forum that ask PROPER questions, suchmoon thank you for your post here and that you address issues that you see with this company.
sr. member
Activity: 394
Merit: 250
Nicehash and westhash are the best places to mining with your script ASIC or sha256 ASIC hardware miners. You get paid by the share and you get paid in BTC at least once a day depending on how much your Hashrate is.

Those pools are awesome.

Gaw's lost but I think gaw will come up with something to make up the difference...can we say zen256hash pool? Hehe!

The best thing was to buy the hashlets at $15.99 back in the beginning. If you would have loaded up with them back then you would be in a better position.

sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
CEO FlawMiners TM®
Wait--what?  You can only get a refund if you bought SHA today or yesterday?  When did those go on sale?

I thought it was last week, was it just yesterday?

You can refund if they were bought at anytime.

Do you know how to read?

QUOTE FROM GAW_CEO

If they were bought today or yesterday, I will refund them. Send me the order number

https://hashtalk.org/topic/5145/nicehash-sha256/692

 As I mentioned earlier most still think they are mining on the pools listed as the payouts...
Mr. CEO also is looking for another country to make a new datacenter...

New topic for today is:
What color should we make our new shashlets..

I love how this jcchipper dude claims KC6TTR " You obviously have formulated your own opinion " I guess jc has facts that the CEO does not mention? He (jc) had to eat his words on the refund and correct himself about the 24-48 hour refunds, why not a refund to ALL owners?
legendary
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https://bpip.org
Wait--what?  You can only get a refund if you bought SHA today or yesterday?  When did those go on sale?

I thought it was last week, was it just yesterday?

You can refund if they were bought at anytime.

Are you accusing the CEO of lying?

https://hashtalk.org/topic/5145/nicehash-sha256/692

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If they were bought today or yesterday, I will refund them. Send me the order number
hero member
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Wait--what?  You can only get a refund if you bought SHA today or yesterday?  When did those go on sale?

I thought it was last week, was it just yesterday?

You can refund if they were bought at anytime.
Wrong.
And remember we talking about sha256, not for genesis hashlet

Genesis Hashlet IS the sha256 hashlet...clearly showing your expertise

And no, not wrong. I was going to get a refund and was asked if I wanted to proceed in the support email and I decided to keep mine.

Perhaps he's talking about S3s and other SHA256 "physical" miners.
newbie
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Wait--what?  You can only get a refund if you bought SHA today or yesterday?  When did those go on sale?

I thought it was last week, was it just yesterday?

You can refund if they were bought at anytime.
Wrong.
And remember we talking about sha256, not for genesis hashlet

Genesis Hashlet IS the sha256 hashlet...clearly showing your expertise

And no, not wrong. I was going to get a refund and was asked if I wanted to proceed in the support email and I decided to keep mine.
hero member
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Wait--what?  You can only get a refund if you bought SHA today or yesterday?  When did those go on sale?

I thought it was last week, was it just yesterday?

You can refund if they were bought at anytime.
Wrong.
And remember we talking about sha256, not for genesis hashlet
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Wait--what?  You can only get a refund if you bought SHA today or yesterday?  When did those go on sale?

I thought it was last week, was it just yesterday?

You can refund if they were bought at anytime.
hero member
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I only have two accounts here, my hero account that I won't jeopardize and this account.

So you created this account solely for the purpose of trolling and spouting nonsense not confirmed information? Well, thanks for clarifying that matter. If you can't post this info from your main account and use this account instead then I am sure you know that this is bullshit.

Troll accounts really should be shunned here by the admin.
legendary
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I only have two accounts here, my hero account that I won't jeopardize and this account.

So you created this account solely for the purpose of trolling and spouting nonsense not confirmed information? Well, thanks for clarifying that matter. If you can't post this info from your main account and use this account instead then I am sure you know that this info you are spreading is bullshit.
MOB
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Wait--what?  You can only get a refund if you bought SHA today or yesterday?  When did those go on sale?

I thought it was last week, was it just yesterday?
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But with my "s3's" not being able to mine there is quite annoying!

You'd think they could at least keep up the appearance of "real" hardware their customers purchased and own. Ok, let's say the hashlets are somehow hardwired into "private pools", but the S3 can definitely be set up to mine on NiceHash with a reasonable "p=" value, problem solved.

BTW you can get a refund for the newly purchased Genesis hashlets, but you can't for S3, at least that's what I got skimming through that HT thread.
But with my "s3's" not being able to mine there is quite annoying!

You'd think they could at least keep up the appearance of "real" hardware their customers purchased and own. Ok, let's say the hashlets are somehow hardwired into "private pools", but the S3 can definitely be set up to mine on NiceHash with a reasonable "p=" value, problem solved.

BTW you can get a refund for the newly purchased Genesis hashlets, but you can't for S3, at least that's what I got skimming through that HT thread.

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marincho

@GAW_CEO said:

    @ahs said:

        @jcchipper said:

            He has open offered up refunds in full to customers....not sure what else you can truly ask.

        Can you please provide a source on this? Not doubting you, but I'm about to utilize this to shove back a truckload of Hashlet Genesis into GAW's lap if things aren't "fixed" quickly. Admittedly, I may turn around and buy Zen Hashlet Solos with the refund. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

    If they were bought today or yesterday, I will refund them. Send me the order number

    All of us have some ROI plan. For months ahead.
    Example - before I buy S3 on Aug 1, I calculate my daily earnings - BTCGuild plus 15%(because Nicehash option). I think I'll have my ROI in that case, and I buy it. One happy day( Sep 10) the Nicehash is removed from my pool list. ROI is gone with the wind

legendary
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But with my "s3's" not being able to mine there is quite annoying!

You'd think they could at least keep up the appearance of "real" hardware their customers purchased and own. Ok, let's say the hashlets are somehow hardwired into "private pools", but the S3 can definitely be set up to mine on NiceHash with a reasonable "p=" value, problem solved.

BTW you can get a refund for the newly purchased Genesis hashlets, but you can't for S3, at least that's what I got skimming through that HT thread.

Looks like the "GAWsomeness" is quickly drying up over there today -

https://hashtalk.org/topic/5145/nicehash-sha256/697

I'll also quote it, since it may just get deleted very soon -

"Calls into question the GAWs entire strategy.
Here's a question. Why are BTC Guild and GHASH.io payouts exactly the same every day.
Answer: They're not - That is impossible.
Seriously questionable stuff going on here."

Disclaimer - I do own a couple of hashlets from day 1 of sales, so i'm still on the fence, but I see this ending badly
legendary
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https://bpip.org
But with my "s3's" not being able to mine there is quite annoying!

You'd think they could at least keep up the appearance of "real" hardware their customers purchased and own. Ok, let's say the hashlets are somehow hardwired into "private pools", but the S3 can definitely be set up to mine on NiceHash with a reasonable "p=" value, problem solved.

BTW you can get a refund for the newly purchased Genesis hashlets, but you can't for S3, at least that's what I got skimming through that HT thread.
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