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Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 163. (Read 262906 times)

legendary
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What is current daily payout per hashlet? In other words, what is expected ROI, is it profitable to get this?

Well, unless GAW finds an excuse to reduce the payout of their virtual miners it's perfectly possible to get a ROI with the current rate which is ~ 0.0005/MHs/day for the zenpool. Solo hashlets have the rate of the pool they're virtualy mining in.
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What is current daily payout per hashlet? In other words, what is expected ROI, is it profitable to get this?
legendary
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What's the point, you'll just get down voted.

I get the feeling you're not too happy about the VB deal Smiley

Well, muppets or not - nobody deserves to be scammed by this Turing deal. I fear that shill reviewer saying "they are legit" might give someone the impression that it's true.
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I'm speechless...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/4236/turing-stations-atlantis-thoughts

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They are legit though I verified their chips.

Someone who still has access to HT should post this link for those muppets.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/turingstations-razor-bitcoin-miner-the-worlds-first-7-th-miner-shipping-now-769984





What's the point, you'll just get down voted.
legendary
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I'm speechless...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/4236/turing-stations-atlantis-thoughts

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They are legit though I verified their chips.

Someone who still has access to HT should post this link for those muppets.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/turingstations-razor-bitcoin-miner-the-worlds-first-7-th-miner-shipping-now-769984





I just called the phone listed in their website. It just throws you in an endless loophole and you never get to talk to an actual person.

Press 1 for support 2 for information 3 for orders Whatever number you press it's just going to repeat.
legendary
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I'm speechless...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/4236/turing-stations-atlantis-thoughts

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They are legit though I verified their chips.

Someone who still has access to HT should post this link for those muppets.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/turingstations-razor-bitcoin-miner-the-worlds-first-7-th-miner-shipping-now-769984



legendary
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Are they even shipping VB's ? or just sending out virtual miners to replace them?

So sketchy.. Makes you wonder how long this has been up their sleeve.

They don't. Batch 1 "early delivery" was an option to buyers to either convert to hashlets and lose the VB, or get  substitute miners in ZenCloud until the actual VB is delivered. To be fair the delivery was promised at the end of Q3 / beginning of Q4, which still gives them 1-2 months depending on how you define "beginning".

That's hardly fair when they already delivered batch 1 equivalents. That stills screws batch 2. They changed their commitment when they delivered batch 1.

IMO - when they offered a quicker batch one, batch 2 should be equally expedited. Unless he just wanted the PR to beat KNC and doesn't care about batch 2 customers

"Fair" was about physical miner delivery, whether batch 1 or batch 2, we are still not past the deadline. I agree with you on the early delivery, as it currently stands it doesn't sound fair at all.
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Are they even shipping VB's ? or just sending out virtual miners to replace them?

So sketchy.. Makes you wonder how long this has been up their sleeve.

They don't. Batch 1 "early delivery" was an option to buyers to either convert to hashlets and lose the VB, or get  substitute miners in ZenCloud until the actual VB is delivered. To be fair the delivery was promised at the end of Q3 / beginning of Q4, which still gives them 1-2 months depending on how you define "beginning".

That's hardly fair when they already delivered batch 1 equivalents. That stills screws batch 2. They changed their commitment when they delivered batch 1.

IMO - when they offered a quicker batch one, batch 2 should be equally expedited. Unless he just wanted the PR to beat KNC and doesn't care about batch 2 customers
legendary
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Are they even shipping VB's ? or just sending out virtual miners to replace them?

So sketchy.. Makes you wonder how long this has been up their sleeve.

They don't. Batch 1 "early delivery" was an option to buyers to either convert to hashlets and lose the VB, or get  substitute miners in ZenCloud until the actual VB is delivered. To be fair the delivery was promised at the end of Q3 / beginning of Q4, which still gives them 1-2 months depending on how you define "beginning".
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Are they even shipping VB's ? or just sending out virtual miners to replace them?

So sketchy.. Makes you wonder how long this has been up their sleeve.
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edit - and WTF is Corne?

I think Corne is Viturrex and he's offering a buyout for VB batch 2:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/3973/batch-2-vb-update/30



AHhh, another reseller with inside info attempting to take advantage of people. Love it.
legendary
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Yea saw that... And looks like batch 2 VB customers might get the short end of the stick... At least based on his most recent post about it. Time will tell!

Thanks for reminding about that. Here is the story:

tl;dr: "This month" something might be announced.

This doesn't sound like "next week" so likely Batch 1 customers by that time will have mined more revenue than was the difference in price between the two batches. Which means that Batch 2 customers will be getting a worse deal unless their compensation is better (e.g. more hashlets per MH/s or more substitute hardware for those that don't convert).

I'm not a VB customer so it's hard to say for sure but I think I would be pissed that this timeline wasn't disclosed in advance. I would imagine that if this was known back when the original hashlet was still $16 some buyers would have asked for a VB refund to buy the hashlet. Which would have benefited GAW too, more $$$ per MH/s (batch 2 was less than $10 per MH/s).

https://hashtalk.org/topic/3973/batch-2-vb-update

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I am being asked about batch two VB. Most the msgs are from folks that are frustrated we have not released them yet.

Please try to understand a few things. First, our obligation was to deliver AFTER the first batch and Q3/Q4. To date, we have over-delivered on everything we have ever done.

For example, many of you paid $16 for miners that are now well worth twice that. Some of you even paid less. When faced with a hard choice, we have always done the right by you.

Second, as batch 2 VB customers you are paying less then $10 a MH. I am not aware of any miner, that is currently shipping, that's even close to that price.

In short, it's perfectly reasonable that we have not activated them yet. We gave ourselves a window of time for a reason. It's taken time to get these chips to run reliably at the target power consumption.

Now, I activate batch one first for two reasons. First they put more money at risk with us. Second, the payouts for pools were rapidly declining at the time. I did not want anyone left without an ROI.

Plus I gave my word I would deliver before KNC

But, the rate that pool payouts are going down has slowed down, so the landscape has changed.

Please be patient, we are doing the best we can. Please also keep in mind that you can receive a full refund if your no longer wish to wait. I will be advising my staff to issue a refund, without approval, so you can get it promptly.

For those of you that have stayed patient, thank you. It makes this worth doing

https://hashtalk.org/topic/3973/batch-2-vb-update/36

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The industry standard is to deliver late, and not offer any refunds. I am proud that we are well ahead of that curve. And we will continue to keep the lead we have set in the industry.

GAW will deliver VB Batch 2 orders within the time frame that was outlined with your purchase. We will follow through our commitment.

I have outlined our reasons above and stand firm in firm in our promise to do all we can, like we always have.

You may cancel your order at anytime by calling or emailing our support team.

I also see that Corne was kind enough to offer an out of this world alternative. Which means no matter what option you choose, your getting more out of it, then you put in.

We will provide an official status update this month.

Yea his post there is frankly bullshit. Seems they just wanted the PR associated with beating KNC to market vice taking care of their customers like their message typically is. The whole landscape has changed doesn't justify additional delays on batch 2, but that's def what he's implying. And by this month... that likely means the end of the month and still not necessarily the release... But just an annoucement.

If they deliver batch 2 in accordance with their first commitment (possible 2015), and not in accordance with their changed commitment of beating KNC - batch two customers get screwed.. and HARD. So, seems he's laying the ground work for this.

Am I wrong in reading in between the lines? He's basically stating they have backtracked on all the VBs being released prior to the KNC miner, being that batch 1 was enough - so, batch two is just whatever?

edit - and WTF is Corne?
legendary
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Yea saw that... And looks like batch 2 VB customers might get the short end of the stick... At least based on his most recent post about it. Time will tell!

Thanks for reminding about that. Here is the story:

tl;dr: "This month" something might be announced.

This doesn't sound like "next week" so likely Batch 1 customers by that time will have mined more revenue than was the difference in price between the two batches. Which means that Batch 2 customers will be getting a worse deal unless their compensation is better (e.g. more hashlets per MH/s or more substitute hardware for those that don't convert).

I'm not a VB customer so it's hard to say for sure but I think I would be pissed that this timeline wasn't disclosed in advance. I would imagine that if this was known back when the original hashlet was still $16 some buyers would have asked for a VB refund to buy the hashlet. Which would have benefited GAW too, more $$$ per MH/s (batch 2 was less than $10 per MH/s).

https://hashtalk.org/topic/3973/batch-2-vb-update

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I am being asked about batch two VB. Most the msgs are from folks that are frustrated we have not released them yet.

Please try to understand a few things. First, our obligation was to deliver AFTER the first batch and Q3/Q4. To date, we have over-delivered on everything we have ever done.

For example, many of you paid $16 for miners that are now well worth twice that. Some of you even paid less. When faced with a hard choice, we have always done the right by you.

Second, as batch 2 VB customers you are paying less then $10 a MH. I am not aware of any miner, that is currently shipping, that's even close to that price.

In short, it's perfectly reasonable that we have not activated them yet. We gave ourselves a window of time for a reason. It's taken time to get these chips to run reliably at the target power consumption.

Now, I activate batch one first for two reasons. First they put more money at risk with us. Second, the payouts for pools were rapidly declining at the time. I did not want anyone left without an ROI.

Plus I gave my word I would deliver before KNC

But, the rate that pool payouts are going down has slowed down, so the landscape has changed.

Please be patient, we are doing the best we can. Please also keep in mind that you can receive a full refund if your no longer wish to wait. I will be advising my staff to issue a refund, without approval, so you can get it promptly.

For those of you that have stayed patient, thank you. It makes this worth doing

https://hashtalk.org/topic/3973/batch-2-vb-update/36

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The industry standard is to deliver late, and not offer any refunds. I am proud that we are well ahead of that curve. And we will continue to keep the lead we have set in the industry.

GAW will deliver VB Batch 2 orders within the time frame that was outlined with your purchase. We will follow through our commitment.

I have outlined our reasons above and stand firm in firm in our promise to do all we can, like we always have.

You may cancel your order at anytime by calling or emailing our support team.

I also see that Corne was kind enough to offer an out of this world alternative. Which means no matter what option you choose, your getting more out of it, then you put in.

We will provide an official status update this month.
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I want my $15,000 back. So I am going to spam shit all the time because I am a wanker with no proof - just sock puppets accounts to spam my message. 


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Some backpedaling is happening with HashletPrime and SHA256:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/3906/prime-sha-hashlets

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Primes will mine at 40GH when you switch them to SHA

And soon there will be a way to boost them (did someone say HashPoints? shhhhh)

If you bought them at $16, thats a sweet ROI :grinning:

Edit:

I put my foot in my mouth a little yesterday.....let me clarify since I am getting asked this a lot.

We know we can get 40GH out of a Prime, but its likely we will need to scale our way up to there as we find more efficient ways to get the performance we want. I will know more throughout the week.

So I can confirm 3 things

Primes will be able to mine SHA next week.
They ultimately be able to mine 40GH (how quickly we get it there is based on some hardware test we are doing this week)
Genesis mine their max SHA speed right out of the gate

Yea saw that... And looks like batch 2 VB customers might get the short end of the stick... At least based on his most recent post about it. Time will tell!
legendary
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Some backpedaling is happening with HashletPrime and SHA256:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/3906/prime-sha-hashlets

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Primes will mine at 40GH when you switch them to SHA

And soon there will be a way to boost them (did someone say HashPoints? shhhhh)

If you bought them at $16, thats a sweet ROI :grinning:

Edit:

I put my foot in my mouth a little yesterday.....let me clarify since I am getting asked this a lot.

We know we can get 40GH out of a Prime, but its likely we will need to scale our way up to there as we find more efficient ways to get the performance we want. I will know more throughout the week.

So I can confirm 3 things

Primes will be able to mine SHA next week.
They ultimately be able to mine 40GH (how quickly we get it there is based on some hardware test we are doing this week)
Genesis mine their max SHA speed right out of the gate
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You're reading all this...  I thought you preferred to press the button and enjoy the silence.
legendary
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Lol why are you obsessed with this guy jerking off?

I'm almost starting to think that bitgeek is a double agent. I don't see how quoting all these scam accusations and stooping down to personal attacks is helping GAW. Either that or he missed the "don't feed the troll" class in school.
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Another scam post from Josh!
Hey GAW_CEO you know who I am, I want my $15,000 back.


Come on liar, where's your proof? Finished jerking off? Don't forget to wash your hands.

From another thread:

I will pay people on here .1 BTC each to put a scam trust report on your member account (...)
I'm going to crush your account, good luck starting from new!

How's it going, paid anybody yet?

Will post in digital goods if any hero members want to make .2 BTC for writing negative feedback on your trust page as you're working for GAW or have been paid for by GAW to be their puppet and supporting the hugest bitcoin Ponzi Scheme ever.

Wow it's .2 now, the bounty is getting bigger Smiley

About being a sockpuppet you just admitted to being one in another thread:
(...)I'm a hero member from 2011 and I have donated on various occasions.


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