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Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 160. (Read 262906 times)

legendary
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meanwhile some of u scream SCAM, in 19 days i made 530$ back from a 1600$ investment

PS : bought hashlets from first day


This is the most prevalent problem we have in this thread with outside posters. People that are clearly financial newbs (and probably in their teens or early 20s), show a complete lack of comprehension of what a Ponzi is and how it operates.  It will make the early adopters money. Everyone does not lose money in a Ponzi. 

Only latecomers and those that reinvest lose money. If you bought in the first week, then you will probably ROI.  However, late arrivals are most likely subsidizing your ROI.  It is like buying BTC at 1200 if you buy a Hashlet now.  If you, btcm4n14c, really feel like this is a good investment then you should double-down (or triple down) on your Hashlets right now.



Hence the main purpose of this thread, to try to figure out what sources of income Zenpool can or cannot be using.  Until this is public information then the whole thing is a house of cards. Early adopters making money does not change that.



Absolutely correct. Hashlets prime purchased at $16 or $20 will ROI. $25 might ROI.

Other hashlets will not ROI, not even with a maintenance of 0.

How can you make that claim with such confidence? Scrypt multipool earnings have been holding steady and recently took a large jump up. It is possible that the decline in payouts is over for the time being, if new money is starting to flow into crypto to provide support and upward momentum the roi times could even be lowered.

Fees at the moment are 25%ish of the earnings, we don't know where btc will be in the future, but I doubt it will fall much further for much longer. The primes at 40$ have a 120day roi without fees, with fees with btc now, its 150 days. So I ask again, how can you make such a declaration?
newbie
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Many people are too pessimistic. Sure if this was a new company I would be a lot more worried. Sure GAW is not being transparent with zenpool but they have a great track record. A lot of the competitors are now following (look at BITMAIN) so it means this new idea is pretty good and is making profits for the hosting company. It does not mean this is a scam. ROI is a different story though
You're right, but this isn't a good thread to post positive feedback, most of this discussion is troling or troll feeding. I could quote several good opinions that were called shilling, while some obvious troll posts were quoted.

There are perhaps equal amounts of valid negative opinions that are labelled trolling.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
Kinda curious about that maintenance fee, when exactly is it going to go down or are we waiting for the next hashlet announcement about new generation  99999 low power hashlets.

Maintenance fee will stay the same unless profitability goes down. No reason to lower their revenue till then.

What worries me about it is that there is absolutely no information or even hints on how this might happen. What if you have to pay an upgrade fee or something to get the lower maintenance. I don't think that any business secrets would be at risk if this was explained.
hero member
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Many people are too pessimistic. Sure if this was a new company I would be a lot more worried. Sure GAW is not being transparent with zenpool but they have a great track record. A lot of the competitors are now following (look at BITMAIN) so it means this new idea is pretty good and is making profits for the hosting company. It does not mean this is a scam. ROI is a different story though
You're right, but this isn't a good thread to post positive feedback, most of this discussion is troling or troll feeding. I could quote several good opinions that were called shilling, while some obvious troll posts were quoted.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Many people are too pessimistic. Sure if this was a new company I would be a lot more worried. Sure GAW is not being transparent with zenpool but they have a great track record. A lot of the competitors are now following (look at BITMAIN) so it means this new idea is pretty good and is making profits for the hosting company. It does not mean this is a scam. ROI is a different story though
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Kinda curious about that maintenance fee, when exactly is it going to go down or are we waiting for the next hashlet announcement about new generation  99999 low power hashlets.

Maintenance fee will stay the same unless profitability goes down. No reason to lower their revenue till then.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
Kinda curious about that maintenance fee, when exactly is it going to go down or are we waiting for the next hashlet announcement about new generation  99999 low power hashlets.
vip
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meanwhile some of u scream SCAM, in 19 days i made 530$ back from a 1600$ investment

PS : bought hashlets from first day


This is the most prevalent problem we have in this thread with outside posters. People that are clearly financial newbs (and probably in their teens or early 20s), show a complete lack of comprehension of what a Ponzi is and how it operates.  It will make the early adopters money. Everyone does not lose money in a Ponzi. 

Only latecomers and those that reinvest lose money. If you bought in the first week, then you will probably ROI.  However, late arrivals are most likely subsidizing your ROI.  It is like buying BTC at 1200 if you buy a Hashlet now.  If you, btcm4n14c, really feel like this is a good investment then you should double-down (or triple down) on your Hashlets right now.



Hence the main purpose of this thread, to try to figure out what sources of income Zenpool can or cannot be using.  Until this is public information then the whole thing is a house of cards. Early adopters making money does not change that.



Absolutely correct. Hashlets prime purchased at $16 or $20 will ROI. $25 might ROI.

Other hashlets will not ROI, not even with a maintenance of 0.
legendary
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
I will never understand why brand new members find that their opinion will be taken seriously in a discussion such as this.

I have a few hashlets, and I've accepted that I will probably never make my money back. In that same regard, I won't be losing any sizable investment.

I will never understand how someone one the internet thinks someone else on the internet cares what she thinks.

Everyone has the right to an opinion even you. Imaginary internet points mean nothing buddy lol. Go back to your 50 cats.

The answer to your query in one word: Twitter... I will take my leave now... Exit stage left...
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
I will never understand why brand new members find that their opinion will be taken seriously in a discussion such as this.

I have a few hashlets, and I've accepted that I will probably never make my money back. In that same regard, I won't be losing any sizable investment.

I will never understand how someone one the internet thinks someone else on the internet cares what she thinks.

Everyone has the right to an opinion even you. Imaginary internet points mean nothing buddy lol. Go back to your 50 cats.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Thanks GAW_CEO for the free 250MH Hashlet Prime for the losses I incurred with you!


What losses? How come he ended up sending you free hash? Did you contact him?
legendary
Activity: 1628
Merit: 1012
I will never understand why brand new members find that their opinion will be taken seriously in a discussion such as this.

I have a few hashlets, and I've accepted that I will probably never make my money back. In that same regard, I won't be losing any sizable investment.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Thanks GAW_CEO for the free 250MH Hashlet Prime for the losses I incurred with you!


Great to see the admission and compensation. Respect for the compo!

sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Thanks GAW_CEO for the free 250MH Hashlet Prime for the losses I incurred with you!


Hahhahahaha... HOpefully that shuts your ass up.
legendary
Activity: 994
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Ignore them, they are shilling. Its obvious it was part jest and part truth. If you look at the users there as well, you will see that a lot of them have gaw founder under their name. These people don't want gaw to fail so they try and snuff out any questions being asked that aren't upbeat and happy, any queries that might mean harm to their bottom line they want to get rid of. Thats likely who is posting here as well.

I'm a founder too sans the fancy badge. It's a "club" of who bought from GAW back in March, not that we have any part in the business. I think it's actually the new buyers that are more likely to be rabid fans because they haven't gone through the shipping and support hell of Gridseed and Zeus hardware. Founders got fucked in many different ways, e.g. most of promised benefits like free hosting are not there anymore.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gawminerscom-introducing-the-gaw-founders-club-570861

I stand corrected. I didn't mean to imply they were involved in the day2day of the business, just that they were in from the "beginning"
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Ignore them, they are shilling. Its obvious it was part jest and part truth. If you look at the users there as well, you will see that a lot of them have gaw founder under their name. These people don't want gaw to fail so they try and snuff out any questions being asked that aren't upbeat and happy, any queries that might mean harm to their bottom line they want to get rid of. Thats likely who is posting here as well.

I'm a founder too sans the fancy badge. It's a "club" of who bought from GAW back in March, not that we have any part in the business. I think it's actually the new buyers that are more likely to be rabid fans because they haven't gone through the shipping and support hell of Gridseed and Zeus hardware. Founders got fucked in many different ways, e.g. most of promised benefits like free hosting are not there anymore.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gawminerscom-introducing-the-gaw-founders-club-570861
newbie
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I find that funny since I have probably been with gaw well longer than them. But I have no conflicting interests now.
legendary
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
I presume none of admins of these pools has ever identified these hashlets mining at their pools?

Nope. And when questions kept being asked GAW did this (also #4 in the OP):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8533761


I will argue with your post there, you're misinforming people.
There are pictures with open setups (no isle separation) everywhere. You haven't seen any other setups, have you?
I also believe they showed the real data center pictures and a warehouse full of miners getting ready to be plugged.

Laughable that the businesses are run by 'highly trained businessmen'. Almost every staff member at GAW has the last name Garza. I know that is a common last name but really lol I don't have 10 smiths at my work. If my business was actually so successful you would think they would actually have some highly trained staff. Or at least a spell checker.

Same here, why are you misinforming people? I've seen their names on their site and in fact most of them aren't named Garza. This is FUD, please prove me that what you just said is true.

I am not referring to thier site. I am referring to my personal dealings with them. It was a half-truth joke. My apologies for spreading fud lol


For the others - I have not been scammed by gaw. I doubled my investment  and got out recently. Overall my experience has been positive with gaw. I just think their community is currently a  bit toxic.

Like I said above I haven't not seen any evidence that they are scamming people. But also I am not sure how they are making money so well. But just because you can  make money  doesnt mean you are a scam.



Ignore them, they are shilling. Its obvious it was part jest and part truth. If you look at the users there as well, you will see that a lot of them have gaw founder under their name. These people don't want gaw to fail so they try and snuff out any questions being asked that aren't upbeat and happy, any queries that might mean harm to their bottom line they want to get rid of. Thats likely who is posting here as well.
legendary
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
meanwhile some of u scream SCAM, in 19 days i made 530$ back from a 1600$ investment

PS : bought hashlets from first day


This is the most prevalent problem we have in this thread with outside posters. People that are clearly financial newbs (and probably in their teens or early 20s), show a complete lack of comprehension of what a Ponzi is and how it operates.  It will make the early adopters money. Everyone does not lose money in a Ponzi. 

Only latecomers and those that reinvest lose money. If you bought in the first week, then you will probably ROI.  However, late arrivals are most likely subsidizing your ROI.  It is like buying BTC at 1200 if you buy a Hashlet now.  If you, btcm4n14c, really feel like this is a good investment then you should double-down (or triple down) on your Hashlets right now.



Hence the main purpose of this thread, to try to figure out what sources of income Zenpool can or cannot be using.  Until this is public information then the whole thing is a house of cards. Early adopters making money does not change that.

This problem isn't isolated to this thread. We had the same issues in the egold days. Everyone thinks they know finances, stocks, bonds, etc, when in fact they probably can't even balance a checkbook, (If anyone does that anymore). I think this is the problem that I ran into on hashtalk, either the people there don't want to know, or they lash out because they don't. In my experience you will find people hostile if they know they have no idea what your talking about.
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