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Thank you guys for the heads up, I'll just add the official announcements for reference. There was no announcement of the price increase though, none that I could find anyway. Prime hashlet is now $49.95.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/4549/project-prime-is-almost-here

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Project Prime is almost here!
To our customers:

Project Prime is coming soon :grinning:

The date has now been set, and everything is being finalized. If you think Hashlets changed things, we are just getting started!

For all those about to ask. Hashlets and Hashpoints are a large part of prime. So you don't need to buy anything new to take advantage.

We will announce the date this week.

To hardware suppliers and resellers:

Enjoy your last few weeks :grinning:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/4651/logic-behind-price-change

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Logic behind Price Change
Outside of the obvious things, I wanted to provide some reasoning behind changing the price of Hashlet Primes.

As you guys know, it is difficult for us to disclose our future plans because of how our competitors react to us. I discuss that here:

"About every reseller, hardware company, and cloud provider in the world are starting to copy us. concepts, technology, strategy. Even marketing and naming (hashnest?)

We have to play things close or we risk getting copied"

But, I at least want to shed some light on what I can tell you.
Primes come at an incredible risk to us. You are able to choose any scrypt pool we support. Meaning that there is a possibility that the pool may just skyrocket in payouts, for whatever reason, and you will get the upside of that (like we saw with nicehash)

Plus, we are about to support SHA mining. So you will get the upside of those pools too.

So think of it like this: the more options you have, the less risk you have (which moves the risk to us). So we need lots of hardware on hand to cover ourselves.

The fact that you have so many options, means it would take the entire industry collapsing for it to make them ineffective. So they are the safest miners you can buy!

Additionally, the market is changing. I discuss this here:
Hardware cost is going up as pools are stabilizing.

We want to to limit their sales. They are meant to more exclusive product.

It is more difficult to do some of the things we want to do with too many out there.

No other Hashlets changed price.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/4634/private-hashlet-sales-are-banned

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Private Hashlet sales are banned
Hashlets are the greatest miners in the world. You know it, but scammers know it too.

In the interest of protecting our customers from the increasing spread of fraud, we are banning all private sales of Hashlets.

Please be advised that we will no longer accept request to transfer Hashlets between account. Any users caught selling hashlets risk account suspension.

The safety of our customers is our number one concern.

protectionist attempt to control the market.
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I'm still amazed by the amount of Koolaid drinkers in the hashtalk board.

carry on.
You don't even have to travel far to find koolaid drinkers...They're everywhere in the altcoin section.
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Thank you guys for the heads up, I'll just add the official announcements for reference. There was no announcement of the price increase though, none that I could find anyway. Prime hashlet is now $49.95.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/4549/project-prime-is-almost-here

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Project Prime is almost here!
To our customers:

Project Prime is coming soon :grinning:

The date has now been set, and everything is being finalized. If you think Hashlets changed things, we are just getting started!

For all those about to ask. Hashlets and Hashpoints are a large part of prime. So you don't need to buy anything new to take advantage.

We will announce the date this week.

To hardware suppliers and resellers:

Enjoy your last few weeks :grinning:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/4651/logic-behind-price-change

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Logic behind Price Change
Outside of the obvious things, I wanted to provide some reasoning behind changing the price of Hashlet Primes.

As you guys know, it is difficult for us to disclose our future plans because of how our competitors react to us. I discuss that here:

"About every reseller, hardware company, and cloud provider in the world are starting to copy us. concepts, technology, strategy. Even marketing and naming (hashnest?)

We have to play things close or we risk getting copied"

But, I at least want to shed some light on what I can tell you.
Primes come at an incredible risk to us. You are able to choose any scrypt pool we support. Meaning that there is a possibility that the pool may just skyrocket in payouts, for whatever reason, and you will get the upside of that (like we saw with nicehash)

Plus, we are about to support SHA mining. So you will get the upside of those pools too.

So think of it like this: the more options you have, the less risk you have (which moves the risk to us). So we need lots of hardware on hand to cover ourselves.

The fact that you have so many options, means it would take the entire industry collapsing for it to make them ineffective. So they are the safest miners you can buy!

Additionally, the market is changing. I discuss this here:
Hardware cost is going up as pools are stabilizing.

We want to to limit their sales. They are meant to more exclusive product.

It is more difficult to do some of the things we want to do with too many out there.

No other Hashlets changed price.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/4634/private-hashlet-sales-are-banned

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Private Hashlet sales are banned
Hashlets are the greatest miners in the world. You know it, but scammers know it too.

In the interest of protecting our customers from the increasing spread of fraud, we are banning all private sales of Hashlets.

Please be advised that we will no longer accept request to transfer Hashlets between account. Any users caught selling hashlets risk account suspension.

The safety of our customers is our number one concern.
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And private sales are no longer allowed. Trading probably coming to the system.

I don't think so. I'd say that it'll take them more than 2 months to bring this to the public. Although it was promised from the start. Or maybe they never will.
New pet peeve - micro-announcements in each board.

Users are probably going to get peeved, since they are now forced to go to resellers, as well as buy Primes at an elevated price point. Unfortunately, it makes jumping ship all that more difficult to do.

I'm still amazed by the amount of Koolaid drinkers in the hashtalk board.

carry on.
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And private sales are no longer allowed. Trading probably coming to the system.

I don't think so. I'd say that it'll take them more than 2 months to bring this to the public. Although it was promised from the start. Or maybe they never will.
New pet peeve - micro-announcements in each board.

Users are probably going to get peeved, since they are now forced to go to resellers, as well as buy Primes at an elevated price point. Unfortunately, it makes jumping ship all that more difficult to do.
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And private sales are no longer allowed. Trading probably coming to the system.

I don't think so. I'd say that it'll take them more than 2 months to bring this to the public. Although it was promised from the start. Or maybe they never will.
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And private sales are no longer allowed. Trading probably coming to the system.
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Hashlet prime now at 50$

How can i stick to my plans if something big changes every two day  Grin
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lolz, you guys are questioning whether GAW is legit after they bought Zenminer for $8m and Bitcoin.com for $1m  Huh

wakey wakey...

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dont understand why there is so much anger here

Oh, this is an easy one.

If you look closely you'll notice that the anger comes from maybe 3 or 4 people.
One of them is a trolling douche, who admitted to be a sockpuppet account and has at least 1 more newbie account he uses to troll GAW.
His other account said he owns his own mine, and probably is jealous of the profits GAW has.
At least 2 or 3 guys got angry because they were banned on hashtalk.

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Is there proof they are actually doing any real mining?

Digital miner getting upgraded on the fly sounds like a badly written scifi movie.
No, they are not performing any mining that is anywhere comparative to the amount of hashpower they sold. It's virtual.

Yet the income is real Shocked

Doesn't make any sense at all. Why is anyone even investing?

Because GAW takes advantage of uneducated people.

Memcid thought u were given 250mh to be quiet?
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Hashlet prime never get obsolete They adjusts to remain profitable which mean that gaw can e.g double your hashrate or so

how is this so difficult to understand Huh

This is called a 'fairytale'. IF there is an investment that is continuously profitable, why would anyone choose to share the returns with others? Think about it.

I speculate GAW will let the Prime hashlets ROI (@$16 and $20 price points) to increase sales of their unprofitable miners (solos, genesis, etc).

Hi all.

I can see on this thread people are talking about ROI.
I will not participate to the troll about "gaw" is real or not . So far , I have income according to the plan, and I have no proof than something is wrong.

But since everything is relative ("thanks Albert ;-) "), ROI compare to what ?? BTC ?? dollars ?? euros ?? yen ??

All this is a bet than bitcoin adoption will increase ....

I found this : [Suspicious link removed]j.com/articles/with-a-bitcoin-etf-risk-isn-t-virtual-1410120108

You will notice than the article is not coming from the specialized cryptocoin press .

If you're mining bitcoin or altcoin , just as a financial operation (I do it also because it's anoying banks and politics) , the only way you gonna make profit is if  we all put pressure for bitcoin adoption .

legendary
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Is there proof they are actually doing any real mining?

Digital miner getting upgraded on the fly sounds like a badly written scifi movie.
No, they are not performing any mining that is anywhere comparative to the amount of hashpower they sold. It's virtual.

Yet the income is real Shocked

Doesn't make any sense at all. Why is anyone even investing?
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Is there proof they are actually doing any real mining?

Digital miner getting upgraded on the fly sounds like a badly written scifi movie.
No, they are not performing any mining that is anywhere comparative to the amount of hashpower they sold. It's virtual.

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You acknowledge and agree that while you are using Company’s Services, Company is free to provide the Materials and Services virtually. During the provision of these virtual Services, Company is under no obligation to provide, acquire, or possess Materials dedicated to You by virtue of Your purchase of such Materials

https://zenminer.com/cloud/terms.html

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Is there proof they are actually doing any real mining?

Digital miner getting upgraded on the fly sounds like a badly written scifi movie.
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Hashlet prime never get obsolete They adjusts to remain profitable which mean that gaw can e.g double your hashrate or so

how is this so difficult to understand Huh

This is called a 'fairytale'. IF there is an investment that is continuously profitable, why would anyone choose to share the returns with others? Think about it.

I speculate GAW will let the Prime hashlets ROI (@$16 and $20 price points) to increase sales of their unprofitable miners (solos, genesis, etc).
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v1.7.8
New Features

    Allow merging of upgraded hashlets!
    Show notification in the Client UI and progress bar when payouts are running (thanks for the tip @Diggio)

Bug Fixes

    Show pool icon when dragging to miner
    Fix issue with merging hashlets
    Fix issue with enabling auto purchase for Zen Hashlets
    Allow setting pool for Hashlet Genesis without refreshing the page
    Fix issue with changing pool for SHA 256 Miners
    Fix issue with showing power in MH instead of GH for Hashlet Genesis when purchasing


The bold part is interesting. This will at least give some "breathingroom" when you see it's almost done Wink
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"...double your hashrate..."...HOW... Huh

By "pure Magic"...or your imagination... Grin

Smoke less of it, buddy...

ZiG

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you are not going to make your investment back, you will lose money because mining difficulty will increase faster than you get paid out.

how is this so difficult to understand Huh

Hashlet prime never get obsolete They adjusts to remain profitable which mean that gaw can e.g double your hashrate or so

how is this so difficult to understand Huh


"...double your hashrate..."...HOW... Huh

By "pure Magic"...or your imagination... Grin

Smoke less of it, buddy...

ZiG
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lolz, you guys are questioning whether GAW is legit after they bought Zenminer for $8m and Bitcoin.com for $1m  Huh

wakey wakey...

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I accidentally deleted my reply. Stupid keyboard.

I don't think ZenMiner was bought by GAW. I am pretty sure they were owned by GAW to begin with right?

I would happily be proven wrong if you could supply me with a reputable news source of this purchase and also of the Btc.com purchase. I could never find an actual news site reporting either of these. I thought the $1 million purchase would be big news but its only small crappy coin news sites.

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dont understand why there is so much anger here
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