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To be fair they did lose a game to Atalanta quite recently, so it is not their most recent loss, it's just Bundesliga one, which is of course still insane. They went a whole season without a single loss, that is amazing whenever it happens, in any league that happens.

Even Bayern when they dominated didn't do it if I remember right, PSG doesn't, City doesn't, to be fair nobody goes 50+ unbeaten games in a row, that just doesn't happen and they did it. In this season I didn't expected them to do the same, it would have been quite difficult and because of that I did expected them to have this issue, and that still doesn't mean that they are going to end up losing anything, they can still win the title even wit ha few losses here and there.
It will not be easy to go through a season without defeat and from several strong leagues, only one team can at least record an undefeated record and that happened once and of course it became a new record recorded throughout the league. Now I think talking about that is like talking about something a little impossible, even though in the end we see a team that managed to do it very well. But that doesn't mean it will be possible again, even though the team is very strong, because there will be many factors that can make them succeed in recording a record like that. I have no choice but to say that one of the factors is luck, although this has also been controversial for us.
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I think is better they (Bayer Leverkusen) lose the game at least one game and for those who are waiting and hoping for them to lose to have a rest of mind. To say the truth they need to be ready for something different and let that winning streak end ones and for all so that they (Leverkusen) can focus on something important like the league games and also the champions league games. If they still have that winning streak going on they won't concentrate on the game at hand but maintaining that unbeaten streak in the Bundesliga and it will affect their style of play.
Kompany can only go ahead of Leverkusen only if Xabi allows that to happen, I don't want a situation where we have to see Leverkusen struggling for steam because from the games both Bayern and Leverkusen have played I can only see Bayern Munich still struggling to meet up and I won't want to see the champions having say issue.
Leipzig is not a team that will give up so easily and even losing 2-0 they did not stop and were able to score three goals and snatch the victory. Bayer's dominance was very significant, but Leipzig chose a counter-attack strategy and it worked for them, although they managed to score goals from difficult positions that day, but Opend's skill brought results. Maybe for Bayer it will also be a relief when they no longer pay attention to another unbeaten streak, let it all remain in the past, and now they need to think about the new season. I think they will beat Hoffenheim and Wolfsburg, and then they will have a match with Bayern, it will be an important confrontation.
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To be fair they did lose a game to Atalanta quite recently, so it is not their most recent loss, it's just Bundesliga one, which is of course still insane. They went a whole season without a single loss, that is amazing whenever it happens, in any league that happens.

Even Bayern when they dominated didn't do it if I remember right, PSG doesn't, City doesn't, to be fair nobody goes 50+ unbeaten games in a row, that just doesn't happen and they did it. In this season I didn't expected them to do the same, it would have been quite difficult and because of that I did expected them to have this issue, and that still doesn't mean that they are going to end up losing anything, they can still win the title even wit ha few losses here and there.
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And are you saying that the Champions League winning coach Tuchel is only to blame?

My point mostly is that after two games against Wolfsburg and Freiburg you already figured out that Bayern Munich was widely underestimated? I mean what do you think people expected when they said that Company is a risky experiment? That they are going to lose the first two games in the Bundesliga? Of course not. But when you play for Bayern Munich or when you are the Bayern Munich coach, winning has priority of course, but the "how" is definitely important too. Let me remind you that they have had two years now with big trouble using their ball possession and chances to score goals. It was a huge issue. They dominated the game, but they couldn't seal the deal. I don't see them as an improved team yet and I have no idea after two games whether Kompany is the right man or not. But I can tell you that there is yet no difference, which is ok after two games. For you Bayern was so overwhelmingly dominating the games that you sat there nodding "oh man Bayern was underestimated". Cheesy
I do not think Thomas Tuchel is only one to blame for Bayern Munich poor start. It is too early to judge team after just two games. People were worried about Bayern new approach with Kompany because they were not sure if it would work not because they thought they would lose first two games. Tuchel tactics have been questioned but it is not fair to give up on him so quickly. Team has been struggling with possession and scoring for two years so it is too soon to say if Kompany is right person for job. Just because Bayern is dominating games does not mean they will be successful. I think it is too early to make judgments about how well they will do this season.
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I bet that if you were the Bayern Munich coach, they still would have won 3-2 against Wolfsburg and 2-0 against Freiburg at home. It is the quality of the players in those games, not the coach. The coach comes into play when the team plays brutally dominant and you can literally see that the coach is transforming them into a monster. As I said before, Guardiola did that when Bayern couldn't be beaten in the Bundesliga and Heynckes did that. It was insane how the team played back then.

Take Liverpool as an example. Klopp needed a few years, but then the team was turned from a Volkswagen into a Ferrari. Same guys, but trained by Klopp. Bayern has achieved nothing. They won at home against Freiburg and you are talking as if they have just hammered Real Madrid, lol.

So it simply meant that any coach who was in the dugout today would have won the Match? I disagree with this assessment, last season Tuchel was on the touch line and Bayern Munich weren’t even playing a this football you. Called Shitty, they were apparently losing matches against clubs that they should have win Now Kompany took over from a disorganized and unstable team and now they have started to win even if it’s scrappy wins and also shown improvement in the playing style and you still can’t give him credit. Mind you he took over not from pep or even Hansi flick to say he took a winning club. His story is just similar to that of Klopp you mentioned at Liverpool and Klopp also didn’t get his team perfect until his Third season yet he was acknowledged before then. So Kompany deserves his flowers now even if it is too early we can withdraw it back if they don’t get better


And are you saying that the Champions League winning coach Tuchel is only to blame?

My point mostly is that after two games against Wolfsburg and Freiburg you already figured out that Bayern Munich was widely underestimated? I mean what do you think people expected when they said that Company is a risky experiment? That they are going to lose the first two games in the Bundesliga? Of course not. But when you play for Bayern Munich or when you are the Bayern Munich coach, winning has priority of course, but the "how" is definitely important too. Let me remind you that they have had two years now with big trouble using their ball possession and chances to score goals. It was a huge issue. They dominated the game, but they couldn't seal the deal. I don't see them as an improved team yet and I have no idea after two games whether Kompany is the right man or not. But I can tell you that there is yet no difference, which is ok after two games. For you Bayern was so overwhelmingly dominating the games that you sat there nodding "oh man Bayern was underestimated". Cheesy
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I bet that if you were the Bayern Munich coach, they still would have won 3-2 against Wolfsburg and 2-0 against Freiburg at home. It is the quality of the players in those games, not the coach. The coach comes into play when the team plays brutally dominant and you can literally see that the coach is transforming them into a monster. As I said before, Guardiola did that when Bayern couldn't be beaten in the Bundesliga and Heynckes did that. It was insane how the team played back then.

Take Liverpool as an example. Klopp needed a few years, but then the team was turned from a Volkswagen into a Ferrari. Same guys, but trained by Klopp. Bayern has achieved nothing. They won at home against Freiburg and you are talking as if they have just hammered Real Madrid, lol.

So it simply meant that any coach who was in the dugout today would have won the Match? I disagree with this assessment, last season Tuchel was on the touch line and Bayern Munich weren’t even playing a this football you. Called Shitty, they were apparently losing matches against clubs that they should have win Now Kompany took over from a disorganized and unstable team and now they have started to win even if it’s scrappy wins and also shown improvement in the playing style and you still can’t give him credit. Mind you he took over not from pep or even Hansi flick to say he took a winning club. His story is just similar to that of Klopp you mentioned at Liverpool and Klopp also didn’t get his team perfect until his Third season yet he was acknowledged before then. So Kompany deserves his flowers now even if it is too early we can withdraw it back if they don’t get better
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That's one year and three months already. Xabi Alonso really influenced Bayern Leverkusen players to push on to this moment. I will love to see that they win the Bundesliga League Competition again this season. This is the first lose they've had but I don't see them losing conservatively. The lose has happened, now it's time to focus on the next game. Bayern Munich can thrive this season, but that of Borrussia Dortmund, I will need them to convince me. Xabi Alonso remains the best tactical manager in the Bundesliga League Competition still this season, I don't see Vincent Kompany ahead of him right now. They still have what it takes to win the Bundesliga back to back again.


I think is better they (Bayer Leverkusen) lose the game at least one game and for those who are waiting and hoping for them to lose to have a rest of mind. To say the truth they need to be ready for something different and let that winning streak end ones and for all so that they (Leverkusen) can focus on something important like the league games and also the champions league games. If they still have that winning streak going on they won't concentrate on the game at hand but maintaining that unbeaten streak in the Bundesliga and it will affect their style of play.
Kompany can only go ahead of Leverkusen only if Xabi allows that to happen, I don't want a situation where we have to see Leverkusen struggling for steam because from the games both Bayern and Leverkusen have played I can only see Bayern Munich still struggling to meet up and I won't want to see the champions having say issue.
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Last night, maybe some of you forgot, including me, where there was a match that should have been bet on, especially Leverkusen and Stuttgart will definitely give the results we want. As it has ended, Leverkusen and Stuttgart advanced to the next round of the DFB Pokal after defeating their opponents.

There is nothing surprising for Stuttgart considering that they are still very strong by scoring 5 goals in this match, but for Leverkusen it seems they are having quite a hard time scoring only 1 winning goal. What is clear is that this result can continue to pump up the confidence of both teams in this week's Bundesliga match where Leverkusen will face Leipzig and Stuttgart will face Mainz. Maybe Leipzig will be a tough opponent for Leverkusen and Mainz will certainly not be difficult enough for Stuttgart. So I hope both of them can continue to win regardless of how they overcome it later.

I personally just don't want to bet on a match like that, because it is certain that the top team will be the favorite team to win, so the odds will also be low. So, because the odds we get are quite low, of course we will look for other options such as the Asian handicap option and also the total goal option whether over or under and many other options. But, what is considered is, sometimes the top team that is favored also does not play optimally in an event like this, even though they still guarantee victory but it is difficult to determine whether they will have many goals or only a few goals that happened to Bayer Leverkuen.

Therefore, I personally avoid betting at moments like that, but if we are just for entertainment and trying our luck then of course it will be fun and okay to bet on a match like this. But about Bayer Leverkusen, in reality they must make a good preparation for the next Bundesliga match. Even though Bayer Leverkusen is playing at home, but Bayer Leverkusen will play against Leipzig and of course it will not be an easy match at all, so that might also be the reason why Bayer Leverkusen only won narrowly 0-1 against Jena in the DFB Pokal.

I think there are many people who lost their money while betting on Leverkusen against Leipzig. In fact, we know Leipzig is a strong team and they are not weak at all but still, Leipzig was not strong enough to stand against a team like Leverkusen, and winning this match was not something even the fans of Leipzig could ever expect to see.
Leverkusen was a team that usually had amazing comebacks and they could change the game but still, time Leipzig had better come back, and while they were about to lose it with a 2-0 result they won the game with a 3-2 result.





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What a weird game it was yesterday between Leverkusen and Leipzig. Everything was going smoothly for Bayer, they played at home, they took a 2-0 nil in the first half, they were dominating in possession and shots on goal, but Leipzig proved they are not to be underestimated, they fought till the end and managed to grab an important 3 points with a 2-3 win.
That ended Bayer's run of Bundesliga games without a loss of, if I'm not mistaken, 34, and now we know Bayern's record is not under threat. At least not for now.

It's almost like Leverkusen exhausted their luck in the last season with last-minute equalisers. I still believe they are more than capable of defending the title if they don't let that loss get in their heads.
Meanwhile, Bayern scored a 2-0 win over Freiburg and moved to the 2nd place of the table behind Heidenheim.
It must be admitted that it is very difficult to defend the trophy in an unbeaten manner, as they did last season when they won it for the first time. True, Leverkusen played very well in the first half, they dominated the game, but in the end Leipzig proved that they are capable of creating a surprise. In my opinion, Leverkusen played too aggressively when they were already 2-0 up, Xabi Alonso should have changed his game to be more defensive, so that he could anticipate counterattacks better. In addition, luck could not prevent Leverkuesen from losing, Leipzig is now a team to be reckoned with.

Xabi Alonso task this season is actually very difficult, because he bears very high expectations, after his success last season. The defeat to Leipzig can lower the fans expectations a little, and also make the players more relaxed without much pressure, I think the defeat has a positive side too. Meanwhile, Xabi Alonso will certainly encourage his players to forget the defeat, and focus on getting up in the next match. With the mentality that has been formed, it seems that Leverkusen will find it easy to get up and start a positive trend again. Now Leverkusen is 3 points behind Bayern Munich and Heidenheim, but there is still plenty of time to overtake them in the future.
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So Leverkusen's 35-match league unbeaten run ended by Leipzig. Smiley
For the Bundesliga, yes. Finally, the unbeaten record by Leverkusen was broken. Leipzig, fortunately this is also one of the top Bundesliga clubs, so it's not so embarrassing. Now, their focus is to defend the Bundesliga title.

But, can they?

For now, Leverkusen is in 8th position. It's still very early. However, their main competitor, Bayern Munich, is actually getting better and more consistent in their game.

On the other hand, Heidenheim is currently quite popular, topping the standings, never conceding a goal, and scoring the most goals.



Next week, they will face a top club, Dortmund, can they beat Dortmund? If so, then Heidenheim is truly the next promoting club that attracts attention this season.
It will be quite a tough match.
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0 win, 2 draws, 0 loss

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I also got my doubts about Bayern Munich but when it comes to play at home they are very good and i guess i was right on my bet that they have won.
On the last weekend game between Stuttgart against Freiburg i think there Stuttgart played just really bad.
But what i am surprised is that Heidenheim is playing very nice with 4 scored goals about Augsburg , now they are first with that win.

I agree with you that many fans have really underestimated this Bayern Munich this season just because they are managed by Kompany who man think his limited knowledge and experience will hinder the club’s progress, many still want him out as they believe he is not the right choice, but my emphasis has always been that he fits perfectly for the club to me due to how his style. At his former clubs he couldn’t implement his pattern of play because of the players there but at Bayern Munich he has the quality of players to play that styles.
I wasn’t surprised with the win today because i had predicted that Bayern Munich will definitely try to take advantage of the the points dropped by their rivals or title contenders, so it was a much needed and also well deserved win.

As for Stuttgart, I had predicted them running into difficulties this season due to their sales of players and them not being able to replace most of them. Now they will add the Champions league football to their games which is definitely going to affect them if they remain in this current form.
Heidenheim on the other hand since last season have shown similar characteristics like when Leipzig was promoted first to the champions league, last season many expected their drop back to the lower division but they stayed and even went ahead to get a spot at this season’s European competitions. They picked up right where they left off and I think they will grow more and would be a huge threat to just any club this season

I bet that if you were the Bayern Munich coach, they still would have won 3-2 against Wolfsburg and 2-0 against Freiburg at home. It is the quality of the players in those games, not the coach. The coach comes into play when the team plays brutally dominant and you can literally see that the coach is transforming them into a monster. As I said before, Guardiola did that when Bayern couldn't be beaten in the Bundesliga and Heynckes did that. It was insane how the team played back then.

Take Liverpool as an example. Klopp needed a few years, but then the team was turned from a Volkswagen into a Ferrari. Same guys, but trained by Klopp. Bayern has achieved nothing. They won at home against Freiburg and you are talking as if they have just hammered Real Madrid, lol.
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I also got my doubts about Bayern Munich but when it comes to play at home they are very good and i guess i was right on my bet that they have won.
On the last weekend game between Stuttgart against Freiburg i think there Stuttgart played just really bad.
But what i am surprised is that Heidenheim is playing very nice with 4 scored goals about Augsburg , now they are first with that win.

I agree with you that many fans have really underestimated this Bayern Munich this season just because they are managed by Kompany who man think his limited knowledge and experience will hinder the club’s progress, many still want him out as they believe he is not the right choice, but my emphasis has always been that he fits perfectly for the club to me due to how his style. At his former clubs he couldn’t implement his pattern of play because of the players there but at Bayern Munich he has the quality of players to play that styles.
I wasn’t surprised with the win today because i had predicted that Bayern Munich will definitely try to take advantage of the the points dropped by their rivals or title contenders, so it was a much needed and also well deserved win.

As for Stuttgart, I had predicted them running into difficulties this season due to their sales of players and them not being able to replace most of them. Now they will add the Champions league football to their games which is definitely going to affect them if they remain in this current form.
Heidenheim on the other hand since last season have shown similar characteristics like when Leipzig was promoted first to the champions league, last season many expected their drop back to the lower division but they stayed and even went ahead to get a spot at this season’s European competitions. They picked up right where they left off and I think they will grow more and would be a huge threat to just any club this season
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What a weird game it was yesterday between Leverkusen and Leipzig. Everything was going smoothly for Bayer, they played at home, they took a 2-0 nil in the first half, they were dominating in possession and shots on goal, but Leipzig proved they are not to be underestimated, they fought till the end and managed to grab an important 3 points with a 2-3 win.
That ended Bayer's run of Bundesliga games without a loss of, if I'm not mistaken, 34, and now we know Bayern's record is not under threat. At least not for now.

It's almost like Leverkusen exhausted their luck in the last season with last-minute equalisers. I still believe they are more than capable of defending the title if they don't let that loss get in their heads.
Meanwhile, Bayern scored a 2-0 win over Freiburg and moved to the 2nd place of the table behind Heidenheim.
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Bayern won their match, and as for Leverkusen, sooner or later they would have lost anyway, I think it's impossible to go two seasons without losing, so every time such a bet on a win was closer and closer to losing. Leverkusen have already set a record for games without defeat, I think they are proud of themselves and can start working on such an achievement from the beginning, if they have the strength to do so of course


Bayern Munich celebrated Vincent Kompany's first competitive game in charge at the Allianz Arena with a victory against Freiburg that saw Harry Kane register his maiden top-flight goal of the campaign on a record-breaking day for fellow scorer Thomas Müller.

Die Roten pretty much dominated the match and their opponent did not have much chances to actually do a lot of things in this match. Bayern Munich also had the majority of the possession of the ball in this match. And I don’t think anyone expected any different. Because it was literally the best team in the Bundesliga going up against a mid table team. Kane and Muller scored one goal each in this match. This has been a very good start for Bayern Munich this season. I hope they will be able to stay consistent and not face injury problems as well. And of course, good news for them is that the unbeaten streak of Leverkusen in the Bundesliga has been broken. Maybe Kompany is actually going to prove me wrong.
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Basically I have doubts about Bayern Munich, because after all Freiburg is not a weak team because after all, in the previous match also that Freiburg managed to beat Stuttgart with 3-1.
I also got my doubts about Bayern Munich but when it comes to play at home they are very good and i guess i was right on my bet that they have won.
On the last weekend game between Stuttgart against Freiburg i think there Stuttgart played just really bad.
But what i am surprised is that Heidenheim is playing very nice with 4 scored goals about Augsburg , now they are first with that win.
It seems that we underestimated Bayer Munich and Kompany, in the end they proved themselves to us that he can beat Freiburg, previously Stuttgart played very badly and made me disappointed when they were defeated by Freiburg and even yesterday they were held to a draw by Mainz 05.  Undecided

Of course they are very surprising, they don't play too much ball but can produce a lot of goals, their fast attacks are effective against Augsburg.
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Bayern Leverkusen played badly in the second half. I have no complaints about their first-half performance. But, the second half was terrible to watch. Their striker, Boniface has been really really bad in this game. He was unable to make a proper finish after he got a golden chance. And our defense isn't that good. They play so openly. It lets Leipzig exploit gaps in Leverkusen's defense.


Also, the loss to Leipzig has ruined Xavi Alonso's unbeaten record with his team. I was expecting him to reach Pep or Heynckes level, but it was wrong. That's sad Xabi's unbeaten record must end this fast.


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So Leverkusen's 35-match league unbeaten run ended by Leipzig. Smiley

Well, I think we will just have to accept that we had a little too much expectation from Buyer Leverkusen this season. And I understand why people had these expectations. the team literally did not lose a single match in the last season in the Bundesliga. So it is understandable why people might have thought that they were going to win this season as well. But I think we forgot that they were actually lucky in a few matches in the last season. Seems like it is not going to be the same in the upcoming season.

Leipzig is a good team and they always play very decent football. They are also pretty much in competition for the top four positions in the Bundesliga. So these kinds of performances are not that much unexpected from them, to be honest.
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Basically I have doubts about Bayern Munich, because after all Freiburg is not a weak team because after all, in the previous match also that Freiburg managed to beat Stuttgart with 3-1. For a team like Freiburg and managed to win with a score of 3-1 before, I think maybe Freiburg will have another surprise in the next match against Bayern Munich. Because at least, Bayern Munich also did not get an easy victory in the previous match against Wolfsburg and thus I think the match between Bayern Munich v Freiburg is not an easy match at all.

But indeed this victory is a deserved thing because after all, at this time Bayern still have to maintain consistency in order to make the supporters believe that management made the right decision to bring Kompany to the Alianz Arena.

It is undeniable that Freiburg is still one of the dark horse clubs but their performance problems last season made them lose momentum a little and it could be that for this season it will also remain the same especially in today's match Bayern still looks very superior and winning by 2 goals I think it's still quite feasible even though there are still a few things that must be improved from Bayern especially for their finishing problems which are not very good because seeing from what happened in this match Bayern's finishing still cannot be considered good even though their dominance is very strong.
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I am quite surprised to see the progress of Heidenheim because since promote i have to says Heidenheim performance is very fantastic and last season they are not only successfully to survive in Bundesliga 1 because Heidenheim also can finish at 9th place and playing at qualification stage of Conference league and in this competition Heidenheim can able to advances to the league phase which if i am not mistaken this is the first time for them to playing on that competition

In Bundesliga too Heidenheim performance is really impressive because from 2 latest matches Heidenheim can beat their opponents and today they can win with big scores from Augsburg and so far Heidenheim has scores 6 goals without conceded and they also can occupy first place of league table

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And yet they lost to Leipzig. Yes, the undefeated streak is over, but I doubt they are incredibly upset about that fact. It's definitely frustrating to break such a long streak, but they have every chance to win the league again at the moment, despite the fact that the coach himself doesn't believe in such a thing. They fought to the last in today's match, and they didn't lose with a rout. As for Bayern, with such a total advantage in the game, they should have ended the match with a difference of 5 or more goals as it was earlier, but no, they barely won the game

I just don't understand how it happened. I had a bet placed on Leverkusen win & over 1.5 goals. But now we see this comeback and a 3-2 loss... I would never expect Xabi Alonso's Leverkusen to lose a game to Leipzig from a 2-0 score advantage.  Sad

Of course nothing is guaranteed in football. Anyways, Leverkusen should have played as good as the first leg. I don't know maybe they got complacent. But actually I thought Leipzig's last minute goal in the first half would be enough for them not to feel complacent.

This is good news for Bayern Munich. I assume they would beat Freiburg home right?  Tongue  After seeing this result I started to doubt that one too. This is why I won't place a bet on Bayern Munich win. I would prefer goal bets.

Bayern won their match, and as for Leverkusen, sooner or later they would have lost anyway, I think it's impossible to go two seasons without losing, so every time such a bet on a win was closer and closer to losing. Leverkusen have already set a record for games without defeat, I think they are proud of themselves and can start working on such an achievement from the beginning, if they have the strength to do so of course
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Basically I have doubts about Bayern Munich, because after all Freiburg is not a weak team because after all, in the previous match also that Freiburg managed to beat Stuttgart with 3-1.
I also got my doubts about Bayern Munich but when it comes to play at home they are very good and i guess i was right on my bet that they have won.
On the last weekend game between Stuttgart against Freiburg i think there Stuttgart played just really bad.
But what i am surprised is that Heidenheim is playing very nice with 4 scored goals about Augsburg , now they are first with that win.
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