They always have the chance to qualify for the Champions League and almost every season they never miss playing in the Champions League. But if we talk about the title competition then I doubt they have the capacity because what we see is that they always fail to achieve good results until the end of the season and they even throw away opportunities that are in front of their eyes when competing with Bayern Munich in the previous few seasons. The ups and downs of their performance cannot be separated from the management's efforts to always sell quality players to other clubs so that they have difficulty competing for the Bundesliga title with other strong teams.
In fact, Dortmund has the capacity to be Bayern toughest competitor in the title hunt, but because the management prioritizes money by selling quality young players and then bringing in new, cheaper players, Dortmund always has difficulty winning the title at the end of the season. This time Dortmund will also have difficulties again when attending Bayern Munich due to inconsistent performance this season, besides that, Bayern Munich has actually found its identity again with a series of positive results achieved. On paper, Bayern Munich are the clear favourites this time around, but Dortmund also have a chance to spring a surprise. 
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This Saturday in the German Bundesliga, we're going to experience the first Der Klassiker of the season which will see Borussia Dortmund host Bayern Munich. Vincent Kompany's Bayern Munich have been the best German club this season both in the domestic and European competitions and against a Borussia Dortmund that's not been convincing with their performances this season, I think many will go for a Bayern Munich win. That being said, we know Signal Iduna Park to be the fortress of Bayern Munich where they sometimes deliver surprising results so I'm asking if any of you think they can get a win against the league leaders? Share your thoughts
You are confusing a lot of stuff here and your report is utterly wrong from the beginning till the end. Borussia Dortmund won 6 out of 6 games at home, which means that they have to deal with a huge discrepancy in their home game and away game performances. But as this game takes place at home, Bayern Munich knows that they have to break a 100% home game winning streak in order to get at least 1 point. This to me is a task that sounds harder than the way you put it.
Further, why do you say that Bayern Munich has been the best club from Germany in the European competitions? Borussia Dortmund has 12 points and is ranked 4th position and Bayer Leverkusen has 10 points and is ranked 6th position. Bayern Munich is ranked 13th position and both other teams have a better goal difference than Bayern Munich. That's a weird take on the Champions League table that you are presenting here.
But I think that Bayern Munich does still have an edge, however it is not as much as you are saying it is, that is at least my opinion given the unbeaten record of Borussia Dortmund and there 4th rank in the Champions League this far.
Dortmund are one of the biggest club in the German Bundesliga and I think it's right for a big team to always try to carry the league or at least constantly qualifying for the Champions League. Dortmund performce this season has been a mixed performance making people to question them as a big club. Their win against Freiburg was a good win. Their general performance in the game was good and the result will be an important one for them as they aim to close gap on Eintracht Frankfurt. I think Dortmund will be a even stronger team if they stop the business of selling their best players to the highest bidder.
They always have the chance to qualify for the Champions League and almost every season they never miss playing in the Champions League. But if we talk about the title competition then I doubt they have the capacity because what we see is that they always fail to achieve good results until the end of the season and they even throw away opportunities that are in front of their eyes when competing with Bayern Munich in the previous few seasons. The ups and downs of their performance cannot be separated from the management's efforts to always sell quality players to other clubs so that they have difficulty competing for the Bundesliga title with other strong teams.hero member
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Dortmund are one of the biggest club in the German Bundesliga and I think it's right for a big team to always try to carry the league or at least constantly qualifying for the Champions League. Dortmund performce this season has been a mixed performance making people to question them as a big club. Their win against Freiburg was a good win. Their general performance in the game was good and the result will be an important one for them as they aim to close gap on Eintracht Frankfurt. I think Dortmund will be a even stronger team if they stop the business of selling their best players to the highest bidder.
They always have the chance to qualify for the Champions League and almost every season they never miss playing in the Champions League. But if we talk about the title competition then I doubt they have the capacity because what we see is that they always fail to achieve good results until the end of the season and they even throw away opportunities that are in front of their eyes when competing with Bayern Munich in the previous few seasons. The ups and downs of their performance cannot be separated from the management's efforts to always sell quality players to other clubs so that they have difficulty competing for the Bundesliga title with other strong teams. 
This Saturday in the German Bundesliga, we're going to experience the first Der Klassiker of the season which will see Borussia Dortmund host Bayern Munich. Vincent Kompany's Bayern Munich have been the best German club this season both in the domestic and European competitions and against a Borussia Dortmund that's not been convincing with their performances this season, I think many will go for a Bayern Munich win. That being said, we know Signal Iduna Park to be the fortress of Bayern Munich where they sometimes deliver surprising results so I'm asking if any of you think they can get a win against the league leaders? Share your thoughts
Bayern Munich is definitely going to be the champion this season. They are already ahead by quite some points and I don't think there is actually any direct competitor right now. The performance from almost every other team has been pretty bad compared to them and so far it looks like they are not going to have any good competition. At least they do not have that right now.
I don't think any team, Leverkusen, Dortmund or any other team will actually be able to compete with Bayern Munich in this season. By the way, they are also the only team which has a perfect record in the last five matches, with zero losses and nine wins.
Dortmund really always managed to get back into the top four or to finish in the Champions League zone, because as far as I remember if I'm not mistaken before it seemed like Dortmund was in seventh place. And also, at that time I thought it was difficult for Dortmund to get back into the top four but yes, in reality it still looks easy for Dortmund to get back into the top four. The big win against Freiburg at least is proof that Dortmund still has good quality and has never been a team that is really down, because Dortmund always managed to rise or recover in the same season. Thus, I think it is not surprising about Dortmund who always managed to have the best quality players in their squad. Currently, Dortmund only has a four-point gap with Eintracht Frankfurt who is in second place.
Dortmund are one of the biggest club in the German Bundesliga and I think it's right for a big team to always try to carry the league or at least constantly qualifying for the Champions League. Dortmund performce this season has been a mixed performance making people to question them as a big club. Their win against Freiburg was a good win. Their general performance in the game was good and the result will be an important one for them as they aim to close gap on Eintracht Frankfurt. I think Dortmund will be a even stronger team if they stop the business of selling their best players to the highest bidder. 
Dortmund are one of the biggest club in the German Bundesliga and I think it's right for a big team to always try to carry the league or at least constantly qualifying for the Champions League. Dortmund performce this season has been a mixed performance making people to question them as a big club. Their win against Freiburg was a good win. Their general performance in the game was good and the result will be an important one for them as they aim to close gap on Eintracht Frankfurt. I think Dortmund will be a even stronger team if they stop the business of selling their best players to the highest bidder.
Each team has its own target and I might understand if Dortmund is known as a team that always sells its best players. But in the future or even this season we don't know if this team has to end up without a title.Like last season in the Bundesliga, Dortmund performance was just looks normal, but in the UCL they were consistent until the final round even though they had to end in defeat.
We'll see later in a certain season Dortmund will definitely get a title but not in the Bundesliga, but maybe in the UCL or in the UEL which is more prestigious for Dortmund.
And related to stopping selling players, it seems that in the short term, it will not be done because there is something we don't know behind the business of selling players.
Dortmund really always managed to get back into the top four or to finish in the Champions League zone, because as far as I remember if I'm not mistaken before it seemed like Dortmund was in seventh place. And also, at that time I thought it was difficult for Dortmund to get back into the top four but yes, in reality it still looks easy for Dortmund to get back into the top four. The big win against Freiburg at least is proof that Dortmund still has good quality and has never been a team that is really down, because Dortmund always managed to rise or recover in the same season. Thus, I think it is not surprising about Dortmund who always managed to have the best quality players in their squad. Currently, Dortmund only has a four-point gap with Eintracht Frankfurt who is in second place.
Dortmund are one of the biggest club in the German Bundesliga and I think it's right for a big team to always try to carry the league or at least constantly qualifying for the Champions League. Dortmund performce this season has been a mixed performance making people to question them as a big club. Their win against Freiburg was a good win. Their general performance in the game was good and the result will be an important one for them as they aim to close gap on Eintracht Frankfurt. I think Dortmund will be a even stronger team if they stop the business of selling their best players to the highest bidder. 
I feel like we will watch another lovely game between Dortmund and Bayern Munich at Signal Iduna Park. 
Because most of the time we see many goals in games between these teams. Dortmund have a horrible defense. Bayern Munich are destroying every team one by one in the Bundesliga this season. I can comfortably say they are good at defending at the same time. I expect a clear victory by them first. This is why betting on their win @1.69 makes sense to me.
Another nice option to raise the odds could be to bet on over 3.5 goals @1.98. The risk is higher but I think the win probability is not low at all.
The match between these two teams will be very strong and difficult and interest. I think Bayern Munich is a bit stronger than Dortmund and has a better record. So I think Bayern Munich will get their next win against Dortmund. This is because these teams are strong and have more experience in play and these teams are next in line for this title. We should also not underestimate Dortmund as they recently won a match in which they scored 3 goals. Bayern Munich is beating everyone in this result because of their talent and good perform.Because most of the time we see many goals in games between these teams. Dortmund have a horrible defense. Bayern Munich are destroying every team one by one in the Bundesliga this season. I can comfortably say they are good at defending at the same time. I expect a clear victory by them first. This is why betting on their win @1.69 makes sense to me.
Another nice option to raise the odds could be to bet on over 3.5 goals @1.98. The risk is higher but I think the win probability is not low at all.
If we talk about the win in the match, it will belong to Bayern Munich and if you think more, it can be a draw because Dortmund have won 5 matches and drawn 5 in their first 10 matches so far will try to draw the first match.
I feel like we will watch another lovely game between Dortmund and Bayern Munich at Signal Iduna Park.
Because most of the time we see many goals in games between these teams. Dortmund have a horrible defense. Bayern Munich are destroying every team one by one in the Bundesliga this season. I can comfortably say they are good at defending at the same time. I expect a clear victory by them first. This is why betting on their win @1.69 makes sense to me.
Another nice option to raise the odds could be to bet on over 3.5 goals @1.98. The risk is higher but I think the win probability is not low at all.
Because most of the time we see many goals in games between these teams. Dortmund have a horrible defense. Bayern Munich are destroying every team one by one in the Bundesliga this season. I can comfortably say they are good at defending at the same time. I expect a clear victory by them first. This is why betting on their win @1.69 makes sense to me.
Another nice option to raise the odds could be to bet on over 3.5 goals @1.98. The risk is higher but I think the win probability is not low at all.
Munich has dominated the win every season over dortmund except last season they had to admit Dortmund toughness in der klassiker matches, so I think betting for a Munich victory is a better option especially since they currently have a good form and consistency to avenge last season defeat, The match between Dortmund vs Munich is always goals action and the match is also full of prestige and pride bets so far, then I think the match will be very tight later, looking at the current performance of both teams, it looks like I will also follow in your footsteps to betting on the match with Munich victory @1.69 odds.
I am still impressed with Harry Kane's performance in that match even though the hat-trick he created was thanks to a penalty kick because it is not easy to execute a penalty because if he fails he will be blamed by many parties including Bayern Munich fans, Harry Kane has done his best for Bayern Munich so far and we should appreciate it I am sure his hard work now will soon pay off if his club wins the Bundesliga title this season.
One fine player Bayern Munich cannot deny having is Harry cane, interestingly, in almost every game his impact gets to be felt and this season he hasn't failed to continually propel the team to victory, this is more like the second or third time he's getting a hat trick this season, I wonder why people would want to look down on a penalty quick enough to not want to count it as a goal in the hat trick build up, if a penalty kick is that easy a goal tgen other top players wouldn't be missing it.One question about him was his age, because he is getting older and paying 100+ million for a 30 year old didn't made sense to many people, but now we are seeing why that was the case. I am sure that people will end up seeing how things could change with a single player, when you buy a player that is amazing, your entire clubs structure changes as well.
At the very least, if nothing else, Kane will get a title finally this season, I do not see how they can lose Bundesliga, they will win that, and it will be the first ever cup in Kane's history, he will be happier than any other player there.
However, I think Leverkusen's target this season is the top 4, because Leverkusen has difficulty competing for the championship title. Even so, their chances are still open because there are still many matches left this season.
It seems more reasonable, the target this season is to stay in the next UCL qualification. Yes, because if you want to catch up with Bayern Munich in first place, the points gap is quite far, there are about 9 points and it is not easy. Therefore, now if Leverkusen wants to move up the position, Xabi must be able to bring victory after victory again in the Bundesliga, at least to take over Frankfurt and Leipzig's positions which are much more possible.And for the Champions League itself, Leverkusen really performed brilliantly this time. They not only won, but were also able to slaughter Salzburg without a single goal in return. This time, Leverkusen is strong in all lines, if you look at the statistics too, I miss Leverkusen's performance which is this strong.
Leverkusen still has good strength this season even though they are now a point behind Bayern Munich but there is still hope for Leverkusen to catch up considering the journey this season is still very long.
We have to see or assess Leverkusen as a whole and in my opinion their team performance or their team strength is not much different compared to last season but it's just that they started this season a little bad and now it is proven that Xabi Alonso can solve that problem slowly.
In fact, what is realistic in my opinion is that Leverkusen will not be able to compete fiercely in the Champion League and it would be better for them to just focus on defending the Bundesliga title, that is more realistic even though it is a little difficult because of Bayern Munich's revival this season.
We are having "Der Klassiker" this Saturday, Borussia Dortmund is hosting Bayern. A clash of two of the most successful and popular clubs in Germany.
Both teams have performed very well in this week's Champions League round, Dortmund has easily defeated Dinamo Zagreb 3-0, and Bayern noted a much more modest win (1-0) but over a much tougher opponent, PSG.
Borussia has not been very consistent in the league this season, mixing really good games with poor ones, that's why they are a pretty big underdog, despite playing at home.
Betting on Borussia you can get x4.33, and on Bayern, x1.68. A double chance bet on Borussia at x2.05 could be worth considering. If they play at their 100% (and given the weight of the game, they might), I can easily imagine them stealing some points from Bayern.
Both teams have performed very well in this week's Champions League round, Dortmund has easily defeated Dinamo Zagreb 3-0, and Bayern noted a much more modest win (1-0) but over a much tougher opponent, PSG.
Borussia has not been very consistent in the league this season, mixing really good games with poor ones, that's why they are a pretty big underdog, despite playing at home.
Betting on Borussia you can get x4.33, and on Bayern, x1.68. A double chance bet on Borussia at x2.05 could be worth considering. If they play at their 100% (and given the weight of the game, they might), I can easily imagine them stealing some points from Bayern.
However, I think Leverkusen's target this season is the top 4, because Leverkusen has difficulty competing for the championship title. Even so, their chances are still open because there are still many matches left this season.
It seems more reasonable, the target this season is to stay in the next UCL qualification. Yes, because if you want to catch up with Bayern Munich in first place, the points gap is quite far, there are about 9 points and it is not easy. Therefore, now if Leverkusen wants to move up the position, Xabi must be able to bring victory after victory again in the Bundesliga, at least to take over Frankfurt and Leipzig's positions which are much more possible.And for the Champions League itself, Leverkusen really performed brilliantly this time. They not only won, but were also able to slaughter Salzburg without a single goal in return. This time, Leverkusen is strong in all lines, if you look at the statistics too, I miss Leverkusen's performance which is this strong.
nice achievement in this season for Bayern under new tactician Vincent Kompany.
Im really positively surprised by what Vincent Kompany has done with Bayern Munich.And it looks like that they are on the best way to getting back to there good style , sadly its bad for all other teams in the German league.
Lets see what will happen on the coming weekend when they are playing in Dortmund , i still hope that Dortmund can win this important game.
I guess maybe i take the risk and will place my bet on a Dortmund win.
Their performance have improved massively even though they lost woefully to Barcelona some weeks back, they are now back on track and i think if Kompany is given enough time he can do a lot for the team. The bundesliga title this season is in the hands of Kompany because they are 6 points ahead and if they can win Dortmund this coming weekend it will be a huge win for them.
Dortmund is inconsistent and even if they are the home team i cannot confidently bet on Dortmund to win.
The depth of the squad owned by Kompany makes his job as a manager easier, but this seems to only apply in the Bundesliga. Kompany has not been able to do much to bring Bayern Munchen to perform according to expectations in the Champions League, but his potential is quite large in the future if his position as manager is maintained by management. Let's see if they are able to bring home 3 points from Signal Iduna Park, because beating Dortmund should be easier than beating PSG.
nice achievement in this season for Bayern under new tactician Vincent Kompany.
Im really positively surprised by what Vincent Kompany has done with Bayern Munich.And it looks like that they are on the best way to getting back to there good style , sadly its bad for all other teams in the German league.
Lets see what will happen on the coming weekend when they are playing in Dortmund , i still hope that Dortmund can win this important game.
I guess maybe i take the risk and will place my bet on a Dortmund win.
A coach joining a team like Bochum will start from -4 to make them good, the other taking on charge Union Berlin for example will start from -2, the lucky one managing Bayern Munich will start from +4.
I mean Bayern Munich is the best team in the Bundesliga from long time and a good coach is not the one who makes them winning and getting the title only, he is the right person who makes them achieve something special like the title of UEFA Champions League or the triple...
Kompany will try his best to prove himself and I doubt any one will doubt that but he is supposed to make the team win Bundesliga title and eventually UEFA Champions League one or at least lose in the finals without making the team suffer a humiliating defeat.
nice achievement in this season for Bayern under new tactician Vincent Kompany.
Im really positively surprised by what Vincent Kompany has done with Bayern Munich.And it looks like that they are on the best way to getting back to there good style , sadly its bad for all other teams in the German league.
Lets see what will happen on the coming weekend when they are playing in Dortmund , i still hope that Dortmund can win this important game.
I guess maybe i take the risk and will place my bet on a Dortmund win.
Their performance have improved massively even though they lost woefully to Barcelona some weeks back, they are now back on track and i think if Kompany is given enough time he can do a lot for the team. The bundesliga title this season is in the hands of Kompany because they are 6 points ahead and if they can win Dortmund this coming weekend it will be a huge win for them.
Dortmund is inconsistent and even if they are the home team i cannot confidently bet on Dortmund to win.
That is wrong as Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund were equal in points in the season 2023/2024 and Bayern only won the title because of the better goal difference. That has nothing to do with domination and as far as I know, Kompany was the solution because nobody wanted to work for Bayern. He wasn't the first choice. I don't know for sure what choice he was, but I think he wasn't even second choice.
The performance in the Bundesliga is still below what they should be able to do. But the other teams suck and that is why Bayern looks so strong. There is no team that will compete with them this season.
nice achievement in this season for Bayern under new tactician Vincent Kompany.
Im really positively surprised by what Vincent Kompany has done with Bayern Munich.And it looks like that they are on the best way to getting back to there good style , sadly its bad for all other teams in the German league.
Lets see what will happen on the coming weekend when they are playing in Dortmund , i still hope that Dortmund can win this important game.
I guess maybe i take the risk and will place my bet on a Dortmund win.
Their performance have improved massively even though they lost woefully to Barcelona some weeks back, they are now back on track and i think if Kompany is given enough time he can do a lot for the team. The bundesliga title this season is in the hands of Kompany because they are 6 points ahead and if they can win Dortmund this coming weekend it will be a huge win for them.
Dortmund is inconsistent and even if they are the home team i cannot confidently bet on Dortmund to win.
Bayern Munich is definitely going to be the champion this season. They are already ahead by quite some points and I don't think there is actually any direct competitor right now. The performance from almost every other team has been pretty bad compared to them and so far it looks like they are not going to have any good competition. At least they do not have that right now.
I don't think any team, Leverkusen, Dortmund or any other team will actually be able to compete with Bayern Munich in this season. By the way, they are also the only team which has a perfect record in the last five matches, with zero losses and nine wins.
Also, I don't see any incredible performance from Bayer Leverkusen that will convince me that they will get to the top of the position this season. Bayern Munich is stronger this season, and they are performing well. Moreover, 9points is a lot, so they will find it difficult to get to the top spot this season. I don't think Bayer Leverkusen will be able to defend the Bundesliga title this season with the way they are performing.
Although they won their last match with a lot of goals, what matters right now is their position in the table, and I think they will find it difficult to get that up because Bayern Munich is ready this season, and with the look of their performance, they will get the title this season.
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