[Guide] Handling splits: UASFs, BIP148, etc. - page 4.

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Quote from: ziploc+ on July 31, 2017, 07:28:23 AM

Quote from: nathalie20 on July 29, 2017, 07:04:54 PM

The wallet, which remained silent for 4 years, has just moved Huh

BTC wallet top 7

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt

isn't this the BTC-E wallet ?

probably got seized by the FBI

Not probably:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/fbi-has-gained-control-of-our-wallets-bitcoin-exchange-btc-e

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Quote from: LTU_btc on July 29, 2017, 05:03:48 PM

Quote from: Ludwig Von on July 29, 2017, 04:52:25 PM

Quote from: estenity on July 29, 2017, 03:18:02 PM

Quote from: Ludwig Von on July 29, 2017, 03:02:50 PM

Now next question :

Since Electrum will not support BCC, which is the best wallet for BCC ?

see this page:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Electrum/comments/6pu0lo/claiming_bcc_from_existing_electrum_wallet/

Thanks. But it does not say which wallet to use as C-Wallet. I suppose Electrum cannot serve that role.

On official Bitcoin Cash there are listed some wallets:
https://www.bitcoincash.org
I suppose that we will need to use one of these wallets for Bitcoin Cash. But now it's hard to tell which one to choose.

Ok, I just ordered a Trezor, that should fix it (before the BCC crashes to nine below zero) Grin

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Quote from: nathalie20 on July 29, 2017, 07:04:54 PM

The wallet, which remained silent for 4 years, has just moved Huh

BTC wallet top 7

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt

isn't this the BTC-E wallet ?

probably got seized by the FBI

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Quote from: Feracitus on July 21, 2017, 09:01:50 AM

Quote from: rico666 on July 21, 2017, 08:41:46 AM

Executive Summary: If in doubt, go with the Theymos default. If exporting/selling BTC is a hassle and you trust your bank and it claims it would handle the split like giving you both coins: consider also "doing nothing" i.e. no moving the coins.

Quite a winded post that in the end justifies the argument it was supposed to rebut.

LOL. Posts that put cognitive load on the reader are considered "winded". I get that.
It offered a different perspective to withdrawing your BTC funds from exchanges.
There is neither justification nor rebuttal.

Actually some exchanges are already documenting they will handle the case as did Kraken handle the case in my ETH/ETC example.

In these cases, one might actually go against the "Theymos default".

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Quote from: hcwh on July 31, 2017, 01:28:17 AM

Quote from: poordeveloper on July 30, 2017, 06:55:02 PM

Quote from: jpouza on July 30, 2017, 06:29:47 PM

Quote from: nathalie20 on July 29, 2017, 07:04:54 PM

The wallet, which remained silent for 4 years, has just moved Huh

BTC wallet top 7

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt

Wow, this is huge and it would means someone very rich may have sold all his Bitcoins.

Do you think this is something to worry about? Grin

It definitely doesn't look like it was a transaction between his/her own accounts.

Why wouldn't this just be someone moving a ton of coins to another address to ensure they get their Bitcoin Cash like everyone else is doing?

There are no need to moving fund to ensure you will have BCC. Even casascius coin now have double coin inside if bitcoin fork into BCC and BTC

Some people ONLY moving their coin from exchanger that NOT SUPPORT BCC to own wallet, not to moving between wallet. And i am not sure that is exchanger wallet, its must be someone's cold wallet

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Quote from: poordeveloper on July 30, 2017, 06:55:02 PM

Quote from: jpouza on July 30, 2017, 06:29:47 PM

Quote from: nathalie20 on July 29, 2017, 07:04:54 PM

The wallet, which remained silent for 4 years, has just moved Huh

BTC wallet top 7

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt

Wow, this is huge and it would means someone very rich may have sold all his Bitcoins.

Do you think this is something to worry about? Grin

It definitely doesn't look like it was a transaction between his/her own accounts.

Why wouldn't this just be someone moving a ton of coins to another address to ensure they get their Bitcoin Cash like everyone else is doing?

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Quote from: jpouza on July 30, 2017, 06:29:47 PM

Quote from: nathalie20 on July 29, 2017, 07:04:54 PM

The wallet, which remained silent for 4 years, has just moved Huh

BTC wallet top 7

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt

Wow, this is huge and it would means someone very rich may have sold all his Bitcoins.

Do you think this is something to worry about? Grin

It definitely doesn't look like it was a transaction between his/her own accounts.

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Quote from: nathalie20 on July 29, 2017, 07:04:54 PM

The wallet, which remained silent for 4 years, has just moved Huh

BTC wallet top 7

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt

Wow, this is huge and it would means someone very rich may have sold all his Bitcoins.

Do you think this is something to worry about? Grin

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Quote from: sardasa on July 30, 2017, 07:37:32 AM

Quote from: poordeveloper on July 30, 2017, 07:32:24 AM

Quote from: sardasa on July 30, 2017, 07:26:54 AM

I am just wondering where are the sellers here getting their BCC from?
https://www.viabtc.com/quot/realtime?currency=cny&dest=bcc&chart=simple

BCC will start to exist after August 1st only. So, how come they have it before this date?
Did they convert their BTC to BCC at 1:1 and started selling it from July 22nd onwards?

Those are Bitcoin Cash futures.

One actually don't need to hold them for selling them?
Assuming, I have 3 BTC with me, then can I sell 3 BCC future for CNY on ViaBTC today and supply them BCC after August 1st and sell my CNY for BTC and withdraw BTC?

They explain how it works here: https://medium.com/@ViaBTC/statement-on-bitcoin-user-activated-hard-fork-6e7aebb67e67

Here is the part that explains this:

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Exchange: Release “BCC/CNY” Trading Pair

From 22nd July 2017 (UTC Time), ViaBTC exchange users can trade your “BTC” assets against 1:1 ratio into both “BCC” and “BTC_FROZEN2” assets. Namely, you can trade 1 “BTC” into 1 “BCC” token and 1 “BTC_FROZEN2” token, or vice versa. Deposit and withdrawal are not available for “BCC” and ”BTC_FROZEN2”.
On the same day, “BCC/CNY” trading pair will be released. BTC_FROZEN2 represents frozen BTC assets and is not available for trading.
After UAHF activates at 12:20 1st August 2017 (UTC time), all your “BTC_FROZEN2” asset will be redeemed back to your “BTC” asset and we will decide on the best timing to allow deposit and withdrawal for “BCC”.

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so my understanding on this issue is that we will have an identical amount of coins on both chains.
one is btc and the other is bcc, and both will be having the same identical address & privkey.
but after Aug 01, each one will have its own path of chain and users.
I think this will raise a new problem of mis-send to an address
people sometimes would just make mistake thinking they are on the same bitcoin blockchain

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Quote from: poordeveloper on July 30, 2017, 07:32:24 AM

Quote from: sardasa on July 30, 2017, 07:26:54 AM

I am just wondering where are the sellers here getting their BCC from?
https://www.viabtc.com/quot/realtime?currency=cny&dest=bcc&chart=simple

BCC will start to exist after August 1st only. So, how come they have it before this date?
Did they convert their BTC to BCC at 1:1 and started selling it from July 22nd onwards?

Those are Bitcoin Cash futures.

One actually don't need to hold them for selling them?
Assuming, I have 3 BTC with me, then can I sell 3 BCC future for CNY on ViaBTC today and supply them BCC after August 1st and sell my CNY for BTC and withdraw BTC?

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Quote from: sardasa on July 30, 2017, 07:26:54 AM

I am just wondering where are the sellers here getting their BCC from?
https://www.viabtc.com/quot/realtime?currency=cny&dest=bcc&chart=simple

BCC will start to exist after August 1st only. So, how come they have it before this date?
Did they convert their BTC to BCC at 1:1 and started selling it from July 22nd onwards?

As far as I know, those are Bitcoin Cash futures.

sardasa

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* Buying Bitcoin *

I am just wondering where are the sellers here getting their BCC from?
https://www.viabtc.com/quot/realtime?currency=cny&dest=bcc&chart=simple

BCC will start to exist after August 1st only. So, how come they have it before this date?
Did they convert their BTC to BCC at 1:1 and started selling it from July 22nd onwards?

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Quote from: 2dogs on July 29, 2017, 06:50:28 PM

Quote from: Kishan748 on July 29, 2017, 03:41:16 PM

can i keep my Bitcoin in Blockchain wallet?

I am getting this question as well.
Looked on the website and there is no mention of August 1 plans.

That means that they are not supporting Bitcoin cash. So there are two scenarios.

1. Blockchain.info refrains from claiming BCC. In this case, you can claim the BCC using the private keys of your wallet. Just export the private key in text format and import it to any of the BCC compatible wallets.

2. Blockchain.info claims BCC but refuses to credit it to the users. I don't think that the chances are very high. As far as I know, they don't possess the private key for these wallets. So there is nothing to worry.

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Quote from: Ludwig Von on July 29, 2017, 04:52:25 PM

Quote from: estenity on July 29, 2017, 03:18:02 PM

Quote from: Ludwig Von on July 29, 2017, 03:02:50 PM

Now next question :

Since Electrum will not support BCC, which is the best wallet for BCC ?

see this page:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Electrum/comments/6pu0lo/claiming_bcc_from_existing_electrum_wallet/

Thanks. But it does not say which wallet to use as C-Wallet. I suppose Electrum cannot serve that role.

see the discussion at the bottom same page.
there should be a fork of electrum wallet to electrum cash soon.

https://github.com/fyookball/electrum

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When can we start creating BCC address on exchanges?

I'm thinking about using Bitfinex to send the coins and sell it. What do you think? If it's not good, please tell me another exchange (since it doesn't ask for personal informations, ID, etc...).

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The wallet, which remained silent for 4 years, has just moved Huh

BTC wallet top 7

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt

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Quote from: Kishan748 on July 29, 2017, 03:41:16 PM

can i keep my Bitcoin in Blockchain wallet?

I am getting this question as well.
Looked on the website and there is no mention of August 1 plans.

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Hello guys. I have my bitcoin stored on blockchain wallet and i have the passphrase. Now after 1 August, let say i have 0,2 BTC, i will get 0,2 BCC right?
I will be able to transfer BCC with wallets from https://www.bitcoincash.org ? And if i send BCC 0.199 i will still have 0,2 BTC to spend or only 0,199 BTC?

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Quote from: LTU_btc on July 29, 2017, 05:03:48 PM

Quote from: Ludwig Von on July 29, 2017, 04:52:25 PM

Quote from: estenity on July 29, 2017, 03:18:02 PM

Quote from: Ludwig Von on July 29, 2017, 03:02:50 PM

Now next question :

Since Electrum will not support BCC, which is the best wallet for BCC ?

see this page:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Electrum/comments/6pu0lo/claiming_bcc_from_existing_electrum_wallet/

Thanks. But it does not say which wallet to use as C-Wallet. I suppose Electrum cannot serve that role.

On official Bitcoin Cash there are listed some wallets:
https://www.bitcoincash.org
I suppose that we will need to use one of these wallets for Bitcoin Cash. But now it's hard to tell which one to choose.

Yes, I already have taken a look there and it is not so clear. Except the hardware guys, Ledger and Trezor. But I am afraid I will not find thes in the local Media markt... . Grin

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