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legendary
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Critically the use of the word (de)centralised in tho context of the network graph. Do you still not understand what decentralised means?

Just for the record and let's keep all the drama to the side and focus on the facts: Are you stating BSV network is MORE decentralised than Bitcoin's LN?

Well now, let's see what "decentralised" means. I'll quote the words if a smart man (o_e_l_e_o), who quoted CSW in nullius' fabulous topic Project Anastasia:

What is he even talking about though?
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This year I take charge and control of my system[5]. Those on the copied systems that are passing themselves off as bitcoin, BTC or CoreCoin and BCH or BCash are hereby put on notice.
"Take control"? If it's under an individual's control, then it's not decentralized, it's not bitcoin, and it's worthless.

I think it's clear what CSW understands from decentralization.
legendary
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Lol, this is the thread that keeps on giving... Y'all just can't help yourselves Smiley ....It's like watching a slow motion train wreck.

You guys really have no idea what is going on do you? Big o'l world outside of bitcoin talk....

I wonder if any of you understand what e.g this article means?

https://www.trustnodes.com/2020/02/14/lightning-network-increasingly-centralized-removing-hubs-leads-to-collapse-says-blockstream-study

Critically the use of the word (de)centralised in tho context of the network graph. Do you still not understand what decentralised means? it is about connectedness, and not about node count/distribution. Nobody read "On red balloons and bitcoin"? Nobody know what a near complete graph is...? why bitcoin was designed as a type of mandala network...? all this information, and more, is available for free!

All you have to do is be able to overcome your deep seated emotional biases and whip out Occam's razor... OR, keep slapping each other on the back... you guys have it all figured out, nothing to see here. Aussie man bad. Move along now....

Just for the record and let's keep all the drama to the side and focus on the facts: Are you stating BSV network is MORE decentralised than Bitcoin's LN?
legendary
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Lol, this is the thread that keeps on giving... Y'all just can't help yourselves Smiley ....It's like watching a slow motion train wreck.

You guys really have no idea what is going on do you? Big o'l world outside of bitcoin talk....

I wonder if any of you understand what e.g this article means?

https://www.trustnodes.com/2020/02/14/lightning-network-increasingly-centralized-removing-hubs-leads-to-collapse-says-blockstream-study

Critically the use of the word (de)centralised in tho context of the network graph. Do you still not understand what decentralised means? it is about connectedness, and not about node count/distribution. Nobody read "On red balloons and bitcoin"? Nobody know what a near complete graph is...? why bitcoin was designed as a type of mandala network...? all this information, and more, is available for free!

All you have to do is be able to overcome your deep seated emotional biases and whip out Occam's razor... OR, keep slapping each other on the back... you guys have it all figured out, nothing to see here. Aussie man bad. Move along now....
legendary
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It is a saying... "once she (he) goes black, she (he) never comes back"! Smiley

However, I don't understand why sgbett, an idol of identity theft, took part in this BTC contest, an unreliable cryptocurrency in his opinion.

Nor I understand how he turned black how he turned from being bullish on BTC to this ridiculous position he has now. Let's remember some of his words from the beginning of this contest:

Not to mention I'm probably one of the most bullish on bitcoin that there ever has been, in earnest. I've been ridiculed for those outlandish future forecasts, just as much as I have for supposedly impossible dips at the risk of sounding like that guy, I've seen a few price moves in my time so I think I'm just able to comprehend its volatility more than some.

FWIW, I still think the 560k target is good, but things have gotten complicated with forks and stuff so it's probably gonna be another 5-10 years. Oh well, I've waited this long... on the bright side that means we are already over half way there!
hero member
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But really you want something from Black don't you.




Love the matching bandana. Grin
legendary
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Stick sgbett on ignore & stop letting him smear excrement all over El duderino_’s very generous game thread.
sgbett is a butthurt & or brainwashed OG who obviously sold too early or made mistakes along the way so he’s broke & he likes to smear bile & vitriol all over threads like this.

You have to some kind of special retard to be all in on BCH & or BSV.

Ignore him & don’t let him derail this thread.

Thanks


sgbett - don’t @ me
legendary
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Yeah I'm still pretty confident. The forecast I made looks broken, however there is some big news coming Smiley GLHF!

What big news are coming?

However if you are interested in what Bitcoin is then you owe it to yourself to find it. Don't just buy BSV, but you should probably not just write it off, given that it is the *only* coin pursuing the "BIG BLOCKS BAD" strategy. When you do grok it, you will shit. (Then see if you still want to HODL that BTC, hahaha)

Well, that escalated quickly! So it seems that sgbett is a CSW and BSV fan. Or am I seeing wrong?

"I warned you"
You have had every opportunity to take heed of what I am telling you, right now you have the opportunity to take advantage of some incredible information asymmetry. I am warning you that things are going to change drastically. That BTC is going to be exposed as fraudulently misrepresenting itself as Bitcoin. That the court case with Ira is going to mark a sea-change in the cryptocurrency space. If you want to know, then all it takes (as ever) is a little DYOR. Read *impartially* and you will see it clearly.

What is that information assymetry? Also, what means to read impartially?

@OP: too bad you didn't state an anti-CSW/BSV fans rule.

For all the rest, I invite you to read this astonishing essay of nullius, where he explains in detail the identity theft attempt of CSW towards Satoshi: Project Anastasia: Bitcoiners Against Identity Theft [re: Craig Wright scam].
legendary
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So you're arguing brown is the new black. Its closer to the original vision of black.

Well unfortunately Black is already the black so not a space for the brown here.



If anything is so strong why does it even need to take over the name? give it its own name and off to the moon. No one minds.


But really you want something from Black don't you.

legendary
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...but offering zero proof...

Your wellbeing is not my responsibility. You should be thankful I am still here at all, its a thankless task trying to help innocents, whilst the loud and proud crow about how they know better, back slapping each other all the way. Let's turn the question on its head, where is your proof that BTC is Bitcoin. That it has *any* utility, that it has any inherent value (remember that little concept from discussion circa 2013?) over and above speculative. There are only so many 'greater fools' before the house of cards comes crashing down.

I know I can't make people see reason. There is no point in me 'offering proof'. I can only open the door, you have to walk through it yourself.

You keep banging your head on it though, see where that gets you.

legendary
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Its not the red light you should worry about, its the blue lights Wink
legendary
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@sgbett .... your talk is just so wrong... the very early BTC'ers get it you say, those that entered later and only in for $$$ are to be duped....

But in there eyes even if that would be the case, Bcash and Bsv are worth sh*t in $$$-value, people have endless time to switch over if they are driven by how you say....

It just proves people wanna pay waaaaay more to owning some true BTC instead of a fake copy


Plus supporting Craig Wright in declaring/claiming that he's the real Satoshi, but offering zero proof, you have to question the purpose of their support. AND they accuse US to be in here only for the $$$?

Indeed, supporting CWS is the most red light indicator to any credibility in the world of today...
legendary
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@sgbett .... your talk is just so wrong... the very early BTC'ers get it you say, those that entered later and only in for $$$ are to be duped....

But in there eyes even if that would be the case, Bcash and Bsv are worth sh*t in $$$-value, people have endless time to switch over if they are driven by how you say....

It just proves people wanna pay waaaaay more to owning some true BTC instead of a fake copy


Plus supporting Craig Wright in declaring/claiming that he's the real Satoshi, but offering zero proof, you have to question the purpose of their support. AND they accuse US to be in here only for the $$$?
legendary
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legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
@sgbett .... your talk is just so wrong... the very early BTC'ers get it you say, those that entered later and only in for $$$ are to be duped....

But in there eyes even if that would be the case, Bcash and Bsv are worth sh*t in $$$-value, people have endless time to switch over if they are driven by how you say....

It just proves people wanna pay waaaaay more to owning some true BTC instead of a fake copy
legendary
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^^^ will read you guys later, just dripping by with a small question for those reading and participating this thread

Those with lower prices 4.5——-7K ranges would you still support your price at this moment and still guess that range of area to chose in??

Or would you guys change graphs and thought

8k-10k range same question or would you guys go more bullish or maybe bearish?

Moonboots probably stay moon range addicted 😅😂

Yeah I'm still pretty confident. The forecast I made looks broken, however there is some big news coming Smiley GLHF!


There's one pooper in every party, the wise man said. Hahaha. Plus is it big "good news", or big "bad news"? I'm worried that it might be big bad news.

That's a matter of perspective Smiley

I get the impression BTC holders see me as some kind of threat,


Why would they?

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but what doesn't make sense to me, is seems to me that they are concerned with fiat riches.


If that's the only concern they have, you're still not a threat in my opinion.

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I have always been one of the biggest advocates of Bitcoin out there.


Is "what Bitcoin is" a matter of perspective as well? Because dealing with that again is what I'm "concerned" about. Cool

Just have to look at the information and figure it out. Anyone that got into Bitcoin early will be able to see it, those kind of people were contrarian enough to be able to cut through mainstream opinion to the substance underneath. Anyone that bought BTC because they saw the crazy $$$ that could be made... well they are in danger, because they are being duped. They are the rubes, you can tell because they don't know they are, and they have a manner of unabashed confidence about them that belies there ignorance. It's so damned obvious!!!


I respect the opinion that, "Bitcoin is a software experiment that could fail", but are you referring to Bitcoin will fail because "Bitcoin Cash SV is the real Bitcoin"? Do you actually believe that?

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Pay no heed to the fact that BTC has been gutted of all of the properties that once made it valuable, and hamstrung so hard that LN seems like a good idea!? Stockholm syndrome much.


I also said that Lightning Network could become its own niche. BUT, I don't support the FUD, and misinformation about it. Let the developers develop.

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I guess you guys have your plan B figure out though, if everything goes south, then you will be the first to spot it and you'll just get your coins on an exchange and pull those dollars out real quick... definitely there will be time to do that, because all the exchanges will continue to work perfectly in such a situation... (I never told you that story about MtGox... it's great, it really is!) or perhaps actually when SHTF it will be gone quicker than coin telegraph can publish a snarky article about the judges being bought off.

And, when it happens, these words will haunt you:

"I warned you"

You have had every opportunity to take heed of what I am telling you, right now you have the opportunity to take advantage of some incredible information asymmetry. I am warning you that things are going to change drastically. That BTC is going to be exposed as fraudulently misrepresenting itself as Bitcoin. That the court case with Ira is going to mark a sea-change in the cryptocurrency space. If you want to know, then all it takes (as ever) is a little DYOR. Read *impartially* and you will see it clearly.


Is that about Bitcoin Cash SV? Respectfully, I would only take it into minimum consideration, IF you sold all your Bitcoin, and hold 100% Bitcoin Cash SV.
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hmmm...my price of

11151-11200   Searing   11151-11200

is looking a bit weak now. I probably should have gone bigger. Smiley

STT
legendary
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Pay no heed to all those buyers that entered up in the 15-20k range,

All the buyers at ~17.5k who held are a slim minority compared to those involved at prices far below   I dont believe there is a great body of people holding BTC held near to ATH.    Price isnt the most significant factor, it would be volume really and thats what feeds the buy orders vs sell orders and in turn we resolve a price.   People are getting bullish on halvening but I think its only a factor that alters supply slightly afterwards and is less important then the volume from factors elsewhere.


For last summer the top of the 'skyscrapers' in outline is around 11,500.  The weekly candle close dont go past that point, I expect some significance to occur in that area now.    Well I'm going to have to hope for some froth anyway seems like.

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Stockholm syndrome much.
Nobody is forced to be here

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"Past Performance Is No Guarantee of Future Results".

This is in fact a requirement by the SEC for asset management firms/funds to warn consumers.

Exchanges don't show this, so you see these people have had no warning.
BTC isnt a equity security or debt security.   No warning has to be given for performance as nothing was implied.    Its more like a commodity, if the BTC was never delivered then sure its false but otherwise the price is open risk.
legendary
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I find your lack of faith disturbing



legendary
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^^^ will read you guys later, just dripping by with a small question for those reading and participating this thread

Those with lower prices 4.5——-7K ranges would you still support your price at this moment and still guess that range of area to chose in??

Or would you guys change graphs and thought

8k-10k range same question or would you guys go more bullish or maybe bearish?

Moonboots probably stay moon range addicted 😅😂

Yeah I'm still pretty confident. The forecast I made looks broken, however there is some big news coming Smiley GLHF!


There's one pooper in every party, the wise man said. Hahaha. Plus is it big "good news", or big "bad news"? I'm worried that it might be big bad news.

That's a matter of perspective Smiley

I get the impression BTC holders see me as some kind of threat,


Why would they?

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but what doesn't make sense to me, is seems to me that they are concerned with fiat riches.


If that's the only concern they have, you're still not a threat in my opinion.

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I have always been one of the biggest advocates of Bitcoin out there.


Is "what Bitcoin is" a matter of perspective as well? Because dealing with that again is what I'm "concerned" about. Cool

Just have to look at the information and figure it out. Anyone that got into Bitcoin early will be able to see it, those kind of people were contrarian enough to be able to cut through mainstream opinion to the substance underneath. Anyone that bought BTC because they saw the crazy $$$ that could be made... well they are in danger, because they are being duped. They are the rubes, you can tell because they don't know they are, and they have a manner of unabashed confidence about them that belies there ignorance. It's so damned obvious!!!

In regular investing you will often see the phrase "Past Performance Is No Guarantee of Future Results".

This is in fact a requirement by the SEC for asset management firms/funds to warn consumers.

Exchanges don't show this, so you see these people have had no warning. Furthermore, many of them will not have any idea about the underlying asset, the properties which gave rise to its value in the first place, and how they have evolved over time.

But don't let me poop on the party by talking about facts such as this.

Everyone jump on board, this rocket is going to the moon! A fresh wave of neophytes will be drawn in during the next news cycle and everyone will be richer than ever before! It happened before, so it will definitely happen again, because nothing has changed right?

Pay no heed to all those buyers that entered up in the 15-20k range, that have been underwater for over a year, and are desperate to get out, because that's madness. All those people are totally in it for the fundamental properties of bitcoin, and not to get rich, so they will definitely be HODLers for lyf.

Pay no heed to the fact that BTC has been gutted of all of the properties that once made it valuable, and hamstrung so hard that LN seems like a good idea!? Stockholm syndrome much.

I guess you guys have your plan B figure out though, if everything goes south, then you will be the first to spot it and you'll just get your coins on an exchange and pull those dollars out real quick... definitely there will be time to do that, because all the exchanges will continue to work perfectly in such a situation... (I never told you that story about MtGox... it's great, it really is!) or perhaps actually when SHTF it will be gone quicker than coin telegraph can publish a snarky article about the judges being bought off.

And, when it happens, these words will haunt you:

"I warned you"

You have had every opportunity to take heed of what I am telling you, right now you have the opportunity to take advantage of some incredible information asymmetry. I am warning you that things are going to change drastically. That BTC is going to be exposed as fraudulently misrepresenting itself as Bitcoin. That the court case with Ira is going to mark a sea-change in the cryptocurrency space. If you want to know, then all it takes (as ever) is a little DYOR. Read *impartially* and you will see it clearly.

Or just keep cheerleading BTC, hoping (praying?) that everything is going to be just fine.

ok boomer. gg. see you on the flip side!

legendary
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