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legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
Lux is going to the bottom on Yiimp pool. I'm glad I stopped my miners this morning, last found block was 13hours ago...
I'm moving all to Zen @ Suprnova and holding. And sometimes I switch to RVN and Pign also for holding. How are your nvidia rigs doing?

Left YIIMP after a DDOS a few days ago, raining LUX at BSOD. One of my WIN rigs with 4 x 1080ti has taken the pill and running hard. Rest of 1080ti rigs are on SMOS also at BSOD. Going to ZEC/EQUIHASH, after 50 x LUX.

https://bsod.pw/?address=LQjaRQU3DQg5TBVtZwf1uDtV5M62kL4AHw

Another 1080ti WIN rig with the PILL, RX470/480/R9-Nanos/R9-390/P106/1060/1070/1070ti => NH CryptonightV7 @220khs, 0.044 BTC per day.
member
Activity: 131
Merit: 10
Lux is going to the bottom on Yiimp pool. I'm glad I stopped my miners this morning, last found block was 13hours ago...
I'm moving all to Zen @ Suprnova and holding. And sometimes I switch to RVN and Pign also for holding. How are your nvidia rigs doing?
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
WARNING: I AM NOT A LINUX GUY,so go easy on me if I did something the most non efficient way.

Put together some steps to install this OhGotAnETHPill on SMOS.

Code:
1) Get local IP of rig
2) ssh into rig via putty.
3) cd /usr/share/
4) sudo wget https://github.com/OhGodACompany/OhGodAnETHlargementPill/archive/master.zip
5) sudo apt-get install unzip
6) sudo unzip master.zip
7) cd cd OhGodAnETHlargementPill-master/
8) sudo chmod +x OhGodAnETHlargementPill-r2
9) sudo ./OhGodAnETHlargementPill-r2
10) https://i.imgur.com/aV1fMXh.png should be running like this.




Tytanick - dev of SMOS - has mentioned in his thread that he has the PILL on the test env for testing before its included in the SMOS image.... but it will be nice to use the above to test it out all the same....
full member
Activity: 284
Merit: 102
WARNING: I AM NOT A LINUX GUY,so go easy on me if I did something the most non efficient way.

Put together some steps to install this OhGotAnETHPill on SMOS.

Code:
1) Get local IP of rig
2) ssh into rig via putty.
3) cd /usr/share/
4) sudo wget https://github.com/OhGodACompany/OhGodAnETHlargementPill/archive/master.zip
5) sudo apt-get install unzip
6) sudo unzip master.zip
7) cd cd OhGodAnETHlargementPill-master/
8) sudo chmod +x OhGodAnETHlargementPill-r2
9) sudo ./OhGodAnETHlargementPill-r2
10) https://i.imgur.com/aV1fMXh.png should be running like this.


full member
Activity: 284
Merit: 102
I’m not a Linux guy but can the pill just be run on smos, or do you need root ?
newbie
Activity: 46
Merit: 0

I saw this, is this something that can be used to boost hashpower for Cryptonightv7 aswell? I've always tought about Ethash and Cryptonight as the same memory intense algorithms but maybe im wrong? Someone should know this here!  Huh

Tested on XMR/using Claymore and Stak -- and gets a boost around 10% more, probably due to Cryptonite is not as memory heavy as ETH and ZEC.

I tested on ETH and it's impressive ~ easy 50mhs per 1080ti

I will not be surprised if the PILL can boost ZEC mining impressively too (testing as soon as I get more 1080ti off Linux to WIN10)

I experimented giving the pill to the LUX miner (z-enemy-v1.08 on WIN10, 1080ti) -- and mining went BEAST MODE !

As long as you have big GDDR5X, like what the 1080/1080ti have - the PILL should work???

SMOS dev is testing the PILL currently under Linux ... hope this can be reality soon.

Guess the saying hashrate hardener for big packages hold true.  Grin really is an amazing tool for 1080ti owners
sr. member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 274

I saw this, is this something that can be used to boost hashpower for Cryptonightv7 aswell? I've always tought about Ethash and Cryptonight as the same memory intense algorithms but maybe im wrong? Someone should know this here!  Huh

Tested on XMR/using Claymore and Stak -- and gets a boost around 10% more, probably due to Cryptonite is not as memory heavy as ETH and ZEC.

I tested on ETH and it's impressive ~ easy 50mhs per 1080ti

I will not be surprised if the PILL can boost ZEC mining impressively too (testing as soon as I get more 1080ti off Linux to WIN10)

I experimented giving the pill to the LUX miner (z-enemy-v1.08 on WIN10, 1080ti) -- and mining went BEAST MODE !

As long as you have big GDDR5X, like what the 1080/1080ti have - the PILL should work???

SMOS dev is testing the PILL currently under Linux ... hope this can be reality soon.

From reading the thread for that enhancement "pill" it sounds like they may have a separate one for Equihash.  I haven't tried it out myself so far since I haven't wanted to use it on a personal machine and it's not a convenient time right now to try something new on a business rig. The results do sound pretty nifty though.
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Activity: 1148
Merit: 132

I saw this, is this something that can be used to boost hashpower for Cryptonightv7 aswell? I've always tought about Ethash and Cryptonight as the same memory intense algorithms but maybe im wrong? Someone should know this here!  Huh

Tested on XMR/using Claymore and Stak -- and gets a boost around 10% more, probably due to Cryptonite is not as memory heavy as ETH and ZEC.

I tested on ETH and it's impressive ~ easy 50mhs per 1080ti

I will not be surprised if the PILL can boost ZEC mining impressively too (testing as soon as I get more 1080ti off Linux to WIN10)

I experimented giving the pill to the LUX miner (z-enemy-v1.08 on WIN10, 1080ti) -- and mining went BEAST MODE !

As long as you have big GDDR5X, like what the 1080/1080ti have - the PILL should work???

SMOS dev is testing the PILL currently under Linux ... hope this can be reality soon.

even at 50 mhs per card, 1080 ti is so much better at other algos its still not worth wasting on eth
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----

I saw this, is this something that can be used to boost hashpower for Cryptonightv7 aswell? I've always tought about Ethash and Cryptonight as the same memory intense algorithms but maybe im wrong? Someone should know this here!  Huh

Tested on XMR/using Claymore and Stak -- and gets a boost around 10% more, probably due to Cryptonite is not as memory heavy as ETH and ZEC.

I tested on ETH and it's impressive ~ easy 50mhs per 1080ti

I will not be surprised if the PILL can boost ZEC mining impressively too (testing as soon as I get more 1080ti off Linux to WIN10)

I experimented giving the pill to the LUX miner (z-enemy-v1.08 on WIN10, 1080ti) -- and mining went BEAST MODE !

As long as you have big GDDR5X, like what the 1080/1080ti have - the PILL should work???

SMOS dev is testing the PILL currently under Linux ... hope this can be reality soon.
sr. member
Activity: 518
Merit: 250

I saw this, is this something that can be used to boost hashpower for Cryptonightv7 aswell? I've always tought about Ethash and Cryptonight as the same memory intense algorithms but maybe im wrong? Someone should know this here!  Huh
sr. member
Activity: 610
Merit: 265
So whats the current opinion from more experienced miners about buying more  gpu rigs with 1080ti,go for it or wait for new model to come out in shops?Or play it safe and dont expand at all untill we see in wich direction will crypto go?
Currently I wouldn't buy anything nVidia. Not only is the next gen right around the corner, but the profitable algos have swayed back to AMD territory and ASICs are pounding nVidia land.

RX570/580's have come back down in price. They're (again) king of the hill in hash/dollar terms.

1080tis are not bad now that they do 53mh/s in Eth at 65% PL. Sure 2x 570 can do 58mh/s but it takes twice the rig components, space, and most importantly time (maintenance and setup). 1080tis are also a bit more efficient and who knows there could be exotic shitcoins that uses 11gb ram in the future.

I agree it's a bad time to buy GPUs though. No cards can cover a 40% depreciation with mining profits before next gen launches unless crypto moons (best to buy coins if you think this will happen) or Nvidia pushes next gen back to December or something.

I am accumulating PSUs though. Got 1500w titaniums and 1200w platinums at $399/$229 respectively.
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 184
...Maybe pool operators are not as greedy as we think, but some of them are.
...

Good point - I'm not necessarily saying all or even most PPLNS pool operators are greedy, rather, that they* most are either greedy or incompetent, take your pick.

But even if the operators are highly competent and saintly in manner, PPLNS is still only fair if the time to find each new block by the pool is always inversely proportional to the pool hashrate by a fixed and predictable ratio. If, for example, it takes 5000 shares to find a block but the PPLNS window is 2000 shares then you just got screwed out of 60% of your hashrate. Conversely, if it only takes 1000 shares to find a block with a 2000 share window then you would still get credit for all of your hashrate even if the next block takes 3000 shares to find (this is how PPLNS rewards loyalty).



* - just to clarify, what I am saying is that few pool operators are both competent and not greedy.
member
Activity: 131
Merit: 10
But not all of them.
I remember back in december I was mining XZC at Datapaw and was getting great payouts compared with MintPond which had almost same hashrates and very unlucky finding blocks and bad payouts. I was proud I was mining with a small pool like Datapaw and getting more than expected payouts. Maybe pool operators are not as greedy as we think, but some of them are. We just have to choose wisely and that's why this thread is a great way of information, everyone is sharing.

I will keep mining on Yiimp for a while, maybe luck will come Smiley))
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Merit: 184
Interesting facts @MagicSmoker.

I was also being on Zhash.pro and getting worse than should be.

Yeah, I feel bad for recommending it earlier in this thread, but that was right after the operators "did the right thing."

...I totally agree with spreading hashrate, but if pool operators are making fun of us, it's not cool so I should move towards the crowd who gets all the blocks, in this case BSOD and in others suprnova it's excellent.

I had the same perspective - try to support the smaller pools - and I totally bought into the standard line that PPLNS is good because it punishes pool hoppers that swoop in as soon as a block is found and steal your payout percentage. Yes, PPLNS does do that, but make no mistake its main purpose is to limit the amount of liability a pool operator has for paying out on shares that don't find a block. Consequently, it is the smallest pools that benefit most from PPLNS and, conversely, the miners at these pools that suffer the most from it.

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Interesting facts @MagicSmoker.

I was also being on Zhash.pro and getting worse than should be.

Right now I mine Lux on Yiimp which has aroung 15gh hashrate, zpool same, pickaxe around 50gh and BSOD over 450. I don't know if I should switch to BSOD, I totally agree with spreading hashrate, but if pool operators are making fun of us, it's not cool so I should move towards the crowd who gets all the blocks, in this case BSOD and in others suprnova it's excellent.
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In theory, that's how pool mining works over the long term.  Small pools will generate fewer blocks, but you'll get a larger share of the block rewards, and over the long term it all evens out.  The only reason to go with a larger hash pool is more frequent payouts.  Using a large hash rate pool might be a good way to go if you are mining a coin that you just want some quick results from... but if you are mining a coin for a while, then you should earn the same amount even on a smaller hash rate pool.  There will be some variance due to luck, but again, over the long term it should even out.


That's the theory, alright; the reality seems to be far less rosy if the pool uses PPLNS, however, and these days most of them do (or the equally perverse variant, Pay Per Last N Time, PPLNT).

It's probably well known among those in this thread that as pool hashrate declines the average time to find each block goes up; perhaps less well-known or appreciated is that there will be wilder swings in time to find as pool hashrate goes down as well, because finding a block is a statistical event, not a mathematical certainty. Since PPLNS only pays you for the last n shares submitted (or n time for PPLNT), it automatically assumes an average number of shares (or time) to find each block. The pool operators can specify how much variance in time to find is permissible (ie - the number of standard deviations), but even if they are feeling particularly generous there will be an amount of time (or # of shares) beyond which you get no credit for your work.

The most egregious example of this in my recent experience (though I have collected many equally egregious ones in the short 6 months I've been mining) happened when a previously popular ZEN pool (Zhash.pro) went down for a day or two to change servers and never seemed to get back to its former hashrate, but it was clear to me that the PPLNS parameters still assumed the former hashrate because I was consistently earning around 60-70% of what I should have every 24 hour period. After watching this occur for over a week I finally called the pool operators out on it in their ANN thread and to their credit, they said they would look into it. The next day they reported that they had made some changes to various settings on the pool and lo-n-behold, earnings did improve spectacularly. In fact, for next couple of days I actually earned more than the calculator on minethecoin predicted!

Of course, that party didn't last too long and once again the pool resumed underpaying on a daily basis, except it was closer to 40% of expected, rather than the 60-70% of before. In fact, during my last mining session with them - where I was merely trying to get my existing balance of 0.0475 up to the payout threshold of 0.1 ZEN  - I mined for 8 hours at a very consistent 1750 H/s and only earned 0.024 ZEN, rather than the 0.0592 expected. In fact, it took another 8 hours of mining to finally hit 0.1 ZEN, and there was one episode where I mined for 3 hours and only got credit for 0.0011 ZEN the next day because a single block had been found in that 24 hour period (despite the pool claiming its average luck was 0.07 days [ie - 14 blocks per day]).

Consequently, I am now mining ZEN on Suprnova where I am also consistently underpaid, but only by 10%; an amount I can live with, relatively speaking.

sr. member
Activity: 700
Merit: 294
Thanks citronick for your tip about zealot miner on PHI. Although smOS got updated with that, I just missed that. I just switched right now and will keep it under monitoring for a while. I was using ccminer 2.2.5.

Please update if Pickaxe is doing better than Yiimp on your side. I see it has much more miners, but most important is the revenue Smiley


LE: A lot better with zenemy 1.08. Before (ccminer 2.2.5) was having 155-162 Mh/s at 150W PL, now I'm having around 172-173 Mh/s. Yey!

I have been on pickaxe since 4:00 pm Est yesterday. So we can call that 17 hours. My earnings up until
Now are on par with my yiimp earnings when the pool had the payouts we expected.

I’ll report back at the 24 hour mark to make sure it is about where I expected it to Be



In theory, that's how pool mining works over the long term.  Small pools will generate fewer blocks, but you'll get a larger share of the block rewards, and over the long term it all evens out.  The only reason to go with a larger hash pool is more frequent payouts.  Using a large hash rate pool might be a good way to go if you are mining a coin that you just want some quick results from... but if you are mining a coin for a while, then you should earn the same amount even on a smaller hash rate pool.  There will be some variance due to luck, but again, over the long term it should even out.
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Activity: 284
Merit: 102
Last block found (LUX) on Yiimp was 5 hours ago.. that's so unlucky Sad

24 hours on pickaxe and I'm about or above some of my best days on YIIMP.

so from what i can say pickaxe gets a + from me.
member
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Last block found (LUX) on Yiimp was 5 hours ago.. that's so unlucky Sad
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Is anyone mining LUX with 1060/70s? If so, what are your hashrates?

Somewhat dated info: 72MH/s for 6x 1060 3GB using ccminer alexis78phi variant.

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