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full member
Activity: 1148
Merit: 132
I don't understand some people
They are against Bitmain, but they bought Asics

Congratulations, we are a few steps do give Jihan and a few players all the control of Cryptos and you help it

I'm feeling tired of this Cryptos, in the beginning it was very nice, decentralized stuff, every person can participate, a revolution to our financial system, but then...

The history repeats itself

It's a shame.

I only buy  old school asic gear from bitmain  sha 256 or scrypt

I just ordered a 10th  L3+ as  LTC  has 210

At the end of the day, its all about our relentless quest for the ultimate rig.

DaggerHashimoto hashing 180MHs in a shoebox....

...... "The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak” (Matthew 26:41)


yeah im not feeding the pig anymore, im buying coins and nvidia gpus if prices come back down to earth
fuck shitmain
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
I don't understand some people
They are against Bitmain, but they bought Asics

Congratulations, we are a few steps do give Jihan and a few players all the control of Cryptos and you help it

I'm feeling tired of this Cryptos, in the beginning it was very nice, decentralized stuff, every person can participate, a revolution to our financial system, but then...

The history repeats itself

It's a shame.

I only buy  old school asic gear from bitmain  sha 256 or scrypt

I just ordered a 10th  L3+ as  LTC  has 210

At the end of the day, its all about our relentless quest for the ultimate rig.

DaggerHashimoto hashing 180MHs in a shoebox....

...... "The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak” (Matthew 26:41)
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
I don't understand some people
They are against Bitmain, but they bought Asics

Congratulations, we are a few steps do give Jihan and a few players all the control of Cryptos and you help it

I'm feeling tired of this Cryptos, in the beginning it was very nice, decentralized stuff, every person can participate, a revolution to our financial system, but then...

The history repeats itself

It's a shame.

I only buy  old school asic gear from bitmain  sha 256 or scrypt

I just ordered a 10th  L3+ as  LTC  has 210
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 1408
I don't understand some people
They are against Bitmain, but they bought Asics

Congratulations, we are a few steps do give Jihan and a few players all the control of Cryptos and you help it

I'm feeling tired of this Cryptos, in the beginning it was very nice, decentralized stuff, every person can participate, a revolution to our financial system, but then...

The history repeats itself

It's a shame.
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 3
Well on better news, i just finished my first 7 days with my latest bot addition to add to my other 3 bots i currently run... some damn good results for 7 days, i installed it on my Raspberry Pi and just left it alone with 0.25btc to trade with for 7 days...
7 days of trading...
68 trades...
0.044btc profit
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That image is super small. How much trading commission did you pay in total? I used to write algo trading in stock markets.

In stock market, buying 500 shares of a $100 stock ($50k) costs like $5 comission. In crypto it costs $125... and another $125 to exit the position. Huge negative edge and spreads are large in crypto too.

With the coin markets now so volatile ... its actually perfect for bots to roam free because the spread its extraordinary big.

Storx -- why don't you clone 100 of those Raspberry Pis and let the army run riot ?  Grin

Afternotes:
I can fund a few of them Pis seeding/capital BTCs and we can share the profits  Grin

This is actually a double edge subject for me, i have always been into bots... i have never lost a lot of money with them, usually the first 15 or 30 days of owning the bots i typically make my cost of buying the bot back along with a little extra, but it seems to always fall on its face or profits drop to a sludging crawl after that. I swear these companies somehow use the fact you have to communicate with thier servers to verify product key for the bot to continue to function, that they are implementing some sort of scale back on how the bot functions after the honeymoon period of getting your initial investment back...

So my plan is to continue to test this bot, i have spent countless hours studying this one before purchase and doing technical analyst on all the pairs its trading to set custom settings for each single pair it uses that i hope this one stays on track after the honeymoon period, in a few days ill have what i payed to purchase it all back in return, so we will see if the profits keep rolling in.

In regards to running a bunch of them, the issue with that is your only allowed to run so much traffic on an exchange before they ban your account from trading, its happened in the past.. so i can only do so much, so the real way of doing it would be to run the bot on multiple exchanges, but the issues with that is fees and volume of traffic are the 2 biggest hurdles, currently i have bots running on all 4 of the top volume exchanges, so im kinda tapped out at the moment and running multiple bots on the same exchange account just confuses the heck out of them.

If this one continues to pan out like its been i plan to add a few BTC to the account and up its trade amounts per trade over time, just right now im testing the waters and not trying to jump the gun, bots can make you money and they can loose it just as quick. I have test 13 different bots over the past 2 years and so far only 3 of them were stable enough to trust with actual money i am willing to trade with, other bots ive bought they run so random and unstable that you cant trust them or once you load them up with more than a few pairs to trade they get so confused and slow to respond that they just become useless at trading. That is what happen to me with gunbot, its turned into my direct mining conversion bot now, stupid bot does well with like 1-3 pairs, but anything above that the code over time starts logging errors and misses trades, then you get stuck with bags of drowning assets.. just got to bipolar for me to deal with, so now all it does is run 24/7 on cryptopia and bittrex auto exchanging everything i dump into those wallets into btc through its panic sell mode... basically turning it into my own autoexchanging mining pool in a way...

Its done ok today, managed 0.00782325btc ($55) of profit in the past few hours trading small amounts, think ima bump up the trade amount a little after this post
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/878/26256966707_8bd1eeabdc_z_d.jpg

@Storx, Those results are impressive, I also run the bot as well but on the ETH. The way to go is the per pair setting based on TA and trading limited pairs. Just started using the bot some days ago not up to a week. As regards to the honeymoon period, I think that can only happen if this bot was actually connecting to a server but in PT's case it connects only to your exchange using your API's, hence why there are some many extra add-on's developed by others being sold. There's an update, the V2 coming soon which takes away the need for some add-on but one I will ask you to look into is PTMagic, which gives you the ability to change settings based on market conditions and changes, which is the biggest drawback of this bot.

I run on raspberry pi too, works perfecting and chilling with the miners. You said you run 3, that's 3 licenses according to you use case, 3 exchanges because you can run 1 license twice on each exchange. And I'll like to ask if you run all 3 on 1 raspberrypi? Looking for a way to remove all unnecessary files on the Pi.

I plan on staying away from V2 as long as they can not stop the functionality of of V1.26, because V2 stop owners license but offers subscription license and there's also talks of it not being self-hosted and installed anymore, meaning it will actually need to connect to a server they own and run, which leaves room for potential vulnerability, which could lead to stolen api's. But, I understand the need to control usage and put limits which in turn will lead to more profit. I might grab another license soon just for keeps sake and leave room to expand from one exchange to more.

@citronick You can pay fees using the exchange crypto, gives you 50% off the trade fees and for spread, you can control that within the bit using the max spread percentage and buy minimum volume to control low cap coins, and minimum buy price to stay away from p&d coins.

Don't wanna derail the thread, sorry if I did @philipma1957.
newbie
Activity: 46
Merit: 0
shitmain really needs to be taught a lesson, but considering the amount of capital they have now, it's hard to make a dent on them. they are probably laughing their asses off mining with F3 silently, damn gayhan man.
sr. member
Activity: 1008
Merit: 297
Grow with community
A small gap of the gates of hell has opened...

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Dear subscriber,

We have received a very promising response to the Antminer E3 batch. Thank you for that.

Many of our buyers have been unhappy about the limit of one miner per user that we had set to prevent hoarding and to allow more individuals to purchase this limited stock of the Antminer E3. To allow all individuals to buy more units and, at the same time, prevent hoarding, we have now increased the limit to five miners per user.

We have also removed the geographical restrictions to allow our international buyers located in Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan to buy the Antminer E3. Buyers in Mainland China can still not buy this batch.

Click below to learn more or to order now:

https://goo.gl/QFF2wt

Regards,

The Bitmain team
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And even much wider gate opens  Angry


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Dear subscriber,

 

We have received a very promising response to the Antminer E3 batch. Thank you for that.

 

Many of our buyers have been unhappy about the limit of one miner per user that we had set to prevent hoarding and to allow more individuals to purchase this limited stock of the Antminer E3. To allow all individuals to buy more units and, at the same time, prevent hoarding, we have now increased the limit to five miners per user.

 

We have also removed the geographical restrictions to allow our international buyers located in Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan to buy the Antminer E3. Buyers in Mainland China can still not buy this batch.

 

Click below to learn more or to order now:

 

https://goo.gl/QFF2wt

 

Regards,

The Bitmain team



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legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
A small gap of the gates of hell has opened...

==========
Dear subscriber,

We have received a very promising response to the Antminer E3 batch. Thank you for that.

Many of our buyers have been unhappy about the limit of one miner per user that we had set to prevent hoarding and to allow more individuals to purchase this limited stock of the Antminer E3. To allow all individuals to buy more units and, at the same time, prevent hoarding, we have now increased the limit to five miners per user.

We have also removed the geographical restrictions to allow our international buyers located in Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan to buy the Antminer E3. Buyers in Mainland China can still not buy this batch.

Click below to learn more or to order now:

https://goo.gl/QFF2wt

Regards,

The Bitmain team
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jr. member
Activity: 225
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The E3 is probably a test to se if ETH forks. If they don't they roll out a more powerful one in a few weeks
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
@citronick
I think these things will be pushed towards ETC personally....  its the only thing that makes sense in the end.    The $800 price tag; is probably roughly 2x cost on the unit when thinking fairly about it.
If they started putting them online ~december of last year;  it would make sense as a whole....   I sense hashrate increasing a little as they are released as the best case, and the most probable is nethash stays roughly the same during the rollout of them.
full member
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Here's a pretty cool website that shows real-time earnings for all ASIC miners, including the ones that have not been released yet.

https://www.asicminervalue.com/

Scroll to the bottom to enter your electricity cost.
legendary
Activity: 1498
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I'm starting to wonder if the rumored "F3" is NOT an ETH miner.
Nist5 or Lyra2RE2 perhaps?

Hashrate from that video is way too high for it to be an equhash (ZEC/ZEN and such) miner.


legendary
Activity: 1834
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---- winter*juvia -----
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And shame on you  a bitmain eth miner.

BTW I just got my 9th LT3+

LOL... I couldn't help it... curiosity killed the ravens :-)

I told my group, I need to dip into the cookie jar to get a unit...

While 6xGPU vs this Asics in comparison, apart from pricing... the bigger winner here is in the aspect of cooling and small footprint.

A Delta 2400 server PSU can safely power 2 of these puppies.

So this will fit nicely into large farms, as usual ie. Bitmain's shoebox format.

I bet the 1.5GH F3s will be 1500$... slightly under 2 x E3.... well played Bitmain.
member
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I just did some due diligence on RavenCoin and all I can say is, best of luck to you all mining it, because it looks like a train wreck to me. Two different ANN threads with lots of infighting, questionable mining software, and the coin itself doesn't really seem any different from any other random shitaltcoin. I'm going to stick to DERO, ZEN & ITNS. And MUSIC!

EDIT - this sounds a bit harsh/combative upon re-reading it, and that's not the intended spirit; rather, I'd very much like to hear the counterarguments in favor of RVN, because from my (admittedly jaundiced/cynical) perspective it only seems have the support of the CEO of Overstock.com who is, let's say, a rather colorful character (or a crackpot, if you prefer).



I noticed this myself. OTH, there are some successful coins with infighting too (sometimes culminating in forks) though it does look bad in public (hard to hide sometimes though). The overstock thing and MIT link to algo are X factors. Possibly the seeds of something special, possibly not. I'm mining and watching carefully.

I spent a bit of time on their discord channels. Yes, there is some drama going on or rather was going on. The main discord was disbanded due to one of the community leaders who used to help the project in the very beginning going rogue. He was the admin of that channel. They also attributed today's dump to him selling all his holdings. (His name is Kai, don't know him) There are two main channels, one with the devs and the other one with @enemy. (As far as i can see) I do not think this is any threat to the project as the devs are still there and very active. It's actually a really nice community with a very few idiots.

Brian, the author of nevermore even told us how he got screwed over by someone with his sgminer. Spent two weeks on it, sent it out for beta testing and someone submitted it as their own and got the 25k raven bounty instead of him. Low blow but he was a bit silly.

All in all I still have faith in the project, they do have a plan for ASIC resistance as well. I'll continue mining it.
legendary
Activity: 1498
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Not really an ASIC.

180 MHs
800w

(6) RX580s will do:
180MHs
~800w

Sure this is a single box and the cost is way better.

I suspect it might be an actual ASIC, due to the price - but as it doesn't even match my PREDICTED performance or that one video posted (that was supposed to be for a "F3 model" anyway) it's certainly not a GPU killer.

A well tuned 6 card GTX 1070 rig will pull 186+ Mhash at about 700 watts (my 5 card rigs only manage 156 at 700 but that's with a HIGH power usage CPU mining Monero at the same time).

The PRICE however does make it attractive, if enough of the ethash coins don't fork soon and you have low enough power cost and the coin pricing doesn't keep dropping (we DID have a small rebound the last couple days).


It would take over a MILLION of these units being sold to manage 50% of ETH total network hashrate (then a couple hundred thousand MORE for the other ethash spinoff coins like ETC) - this is barely even going to DENT GPU mining profitabilty at the typical number of units Bitmain sells in a batch.


The question at this point becomes "is there something better in the Bitmain labs that they haven't released yet, how much better IF so, and when and what price will THAT get released at".



jr. member
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I just did some due diligence on RavenCoin and all I can say is, best of luck to you all mining it, because it looks like a train wreck to me. Two different ANN threads with lots of infighting, questionable mining software, and the coin itself doesn't really seem any different from any other random shitaltcoin. I'm going to stick to DERO, ZEN & ITNS. And MUSIC!

EDIT - this sounds a bit harsh/combative upon re-reading it, and that's not the intended spirit; rather, I'd very much like to hear the counterarguments in favor of RVN, because from my (admittedly jaundiced/cynical) perspective it only seems have the support of the CEO of Overstock.com who is, let's say, a rather colorful character (or a crackpot, if you prefer).



I noticed this myself. OTH, there are some successful coins with infighting too (sometimes culminating in forks) though it does look bad in public (hard to hide sometimes though). The overstock thing and MIT link to algo are X factors. Possibly the seeds of something special, possibly not. I'm mining and watching carefully.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
I just did some due diligence on RavenCoin and all I can say is, best of luck to you all mining it, because it looks like a train wreck to me. Two different ANN threads with lots of infighting, questionable mining software, and the coin itself doesn't really seem any different from any other random shitaltcoin. I'm going to stick to DERO, ZEN & ITNS. And MUSIC!

EDIT - this sounds a bit harsh/combative upon re-reading it, and that's not the intended spirit; rather, I'd very much like to hear the counterarguments in favor of RVN, because from my (admittedly jaundiced/cynical) perspective it only seems have the support of the CEO of Overstock.com who is, let's say, a rather colorful character (or a crackpot, if you prefer).



Ok, if you are mining you dont really care about that stuff.  I just dont like the inflation on the coin, with no planned "deflation" aka a la Bitcoin.  But miners are getting shafted with the ASIC invasion so they seek new innovations with ASIC resistant properties, for, well, the decentralized ideology and all.  So they will mine RVN, they will create demand for it, they will pump it.  Im pretty sure of it.  Mine when difficulty is low and sell when price is high.  Of course I get that right about 0.1% of the time.

Another experiment.... PIGN (pigeon coin) is on the loose using X16S algorithm..... uncanny features similar to Ravens but instead of X16R for "random".... its using X16S for "shuffle".... something is telling me someone is doing a live "bird" experiments in the mining community perhaps in a quest to see which algo is truly ASIC resistant...
 

Was it a little birdy?  or a stool pigeon  Grin

I have about 2500 raven coins on hodl.

And shame on you  a bitmain eth miner.

BTW I just got my 9th LT3+
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
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I just did some due diligence on RavenCoin and all I can say is, best of luck to you all mining it, because it looks like a train wreck to me. Two different ANN threads with lots of infighting, questionable mining software, and the coin itself doesn't really seem any different from any other random shitaltcoin. I'm going to stick to DERO, ZEN & ITNS. And MUSIC!

EDIT - this sounds a bit harsh/combative upon re-reading it, and that's not the intended spirit; rather, I'd very much like to hear the counterarguments in favor of RVN, because from my (admittedly jaundiced/cynical) perspective it only seems have the support of the CEO of Overstock.com who is, let's say, a rather colorful character (or a crackpot, if you prefer).



Ok, if you are mining you dont really care about that stuff.  I just dont like the inflation on the coin, with no planned "deflation" aka a la Bitcoin.  But miners are getting shafted with the ASIC invasion so they seek new innovations with ASIC resistant properties, for, well, the decentralized ideology and all.  So they will mine RVN, they will create demand for it, they will pump it.  Im pretty sure of it.  Mine when difficulty is low and sell when price is high.  Of course I get that right about 0.1% of the time.

Another experiment.... PIGN (pigeon coin) is on the loose using X16S algorithm..... uncanny features similar to Ravens but instead of X16R for "random".... its using X16S for "shuffle".... something is telling me someone is doing a live "bird" experiments in the mining community perhaps in a quest to see which algo is truly ASIC resistant...
 
legendary
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Now the money is free, and so the people will be
I just did some due diligence on RavenCoin and all I can say is, best of luck to you all mining it, because it looks like a train wreck to me. Two different ANN threads with lots of infighting, questionable mining software, and the coin itself doesn't really seem any different from any other random shitaltcoin. I'm going to stick to DERO, ZEN & ITNS. And MUSIC!

EDIT - this sounds a bit harsh/combative upon re-reading it, and that's not the intended spirit; rather, I'd very much like to hear the counterarguments in favor of RVN, because from my (admittedly jaundiced/cynical) perspective it only seems have the support of the CEO of Overstock.com who is, let's say, a rather colorful character (or a crackpot, if you prefer).



Ok, if you are mining you dont really care about that stuff.  I just dont like the inflation on the coin, with no planned "deflation" aka a la Bitcoin.  But miners are getting shafted with the ASIC invasion so they seek new innovations with ASIC resistant properties, for, well, the decentralized ideology and all.  So they will mine RVN, they will create demand for it, they will pump it.  Im pretty sure of it.  Mine when difficulty is low and sell when price is high.  Of course I get that right about 0.1% of the time.
newbie
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Not really an ASIC.

180 MHs
800w

(6) RX580s will do:
180MHs
~800w

Sure this is a single box and the cost is way better.

This is an E3 miner...I think that they will launch an F3 later

If there is PoW algorithm change, there will be no F3. I hope ETH will change the PoW algorithm.
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