Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 - page 13.

hashking

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Quote from: heatstroke on October 03, 2012, 08:25:29 PM

Hashking, you're supposed to disappear with the money. You're doing this "ponzi scheme" thing all wrong.

Payments will be going out shortly. I never ran a ponzi scheme, its just that most of the investments I made ended up going bad. Running and not returning would be probably the easiest and sane thing to do but I'm not that type of person. I will continue to pay the best I can and I'm working on trying to return as many bitcoins as possible to the people that loaned them to me.

heatstroke

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Hashking, you're supposed to disappear with the money. You're doing this "ponzi scheme" thing all wrong.

greyhawk

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I don't understand why you guys are worried.

That's only like half a million fiat bucks. Peanuts really.

TheBible

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Bitcoin: Where getting back a tiny fraction of your initial investment counts as a resounding success.

hashalfahalve

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Support the bitcoin economy, use BTC merchants

58805 BTC???

JoelKatz

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Democracy is vulnerable to a 51% attack.

Quote from: Jurek on October 03, 2012, 07:46:59 AM

I wonder though, why do pirate come back and promises to pay back if he can just run? Pirate's identity isn't known.

Two theories:

1) He was passing through to Zeek and genuinely believed he'd have his money back soon.

2) He was still selling his own debt through cut outs and wanted to keep its price up for as long as he could.

Otoh

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yep confirmed, I'm 1G5apmPvo2iTtmkNWAHTCET7Y842Ufijs8 in for 300.003935189 BTC

Sum minus largest payment (change): 34219.018769158 BTC

that makes me about 0.9% of the total outstanding

thanks for the summary

mb300sd

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Drunk Posts

Off by a little, but I assume thats because of interest thats already been paid.

runeks

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Here are the balances I have calculated:

Code:

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1NLTP4pxN3aZyUdZv5Wk1QdXxwDQNN81aH 4580.06227865
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1NFT9tGTaRY9A6HRqML1sU6ZVpLogK3EK7 1000.01351652
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1MMUUA7UkrLPe8aLd186tz3KoR6J8B6ZcF 10.0
1FToc7MFzA1eWMyKrpJ2Rc9rmzVP8dU5Zh 10.0
1Qv4y7xKXFqGYs8VLhbA2793Ytdr16hkb 10.0
1M76ScEUUgWpJrAqbq763LpAaZVL516jt3 10.0
1EmEmrVrWfFPtubi4nvm4yKyxyhtdAqzQz 10.0
1HTF52thyac5zAvz22bgdER8vaacbZbHgM 10.0
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1BWxHuusjy2Z5nMbYeuuEc1LRAmWYM6JAm 9.23999520933
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1MSUNyFA1wYREgpfcRBjrkcj9JzAwQYDWY 9.05007955926
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1JVWC5FcRGxWZBrZDJogi44RX3KH8MUq6e 8.67007716393
16Lgkwzf5G3ukmN4UkrVRo1hosUHw4phDN 4.99991445241

Sum: 93024.449501258
Sum minus largest payment: 34219.018769158

I have done it the following way: my own deposit of 10 BTC received a payback of 0.00058447 BTC. The payback amount times 17109.518024877 is the size of my original deposit. I have taken the amount sent to each address and multiplied it by this factor. The largest payment is over 12 times as large as the second largest payment. It seems sensible to assume this is change.

My own address is 1Qv4y7xKXFqGYs8VLhbA2793Ytdr16hkb.

Can anyone confirm that their original deposit fits with the above? Bear in mind that there might be some slight rounding errors.

Buffer Overflow

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I feel it's time for hashking to make another public announcement to calmdown his creditors.

Unless he has $2700 - $2800 disposable spare cash per week rolling around to buy Bitcoins on the open market. (Assuming $12.75 per BTC.) Then 3 years isn't going to happen.

Shadow383

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If it turns out that pirate was passing funds through to Zeek (which seems likely given his stated returns and the timing of his shutdown, just hours after Zeek fell) then it's possible that some part of the principle may be recoverable. Now, that's principle, not including massive interest payments, and even then only some small portion of it, and probably not for years yet.

HDSolar

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Quote from: Jurek on October 03, 2012, 07:46:59 AM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on October 03, 2012, 07:39:17 AM

Also I guess he's waiting for pirate to bail him out. 12th Oct will come and go. Another stall from pirate will materialize. Waiting for pirate is not an option.

I agree.

I wonder though, why do pirate come back and promises to pay back if he can just run? Pirate's identity isn't known.

Are you kidding me, there are threads that not only list his identity but pictures of him and even people tracking down his family for answers. If the person they are hunting down is not pirate there is a whole lot of people messing with some guys life in Texas for nothing. Search for it, it is high drama. Grin

Jurek

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on October 03, 2012, 07:39:17 AM

Also I guess he's waiting for pirate to bail him out. 12th Oct will come and go. Another stall from pirate will materialize. Waiting for pirate is not an option.

I agree.

I wonder though, why do pirate come back and promises to pay back if he can just run? Pirate's identity isn't known.

Buffer Overflow

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Quote from: Jurek on October 03, 2012, 07:01:16 AM

Thanks.

Well that looks really bad, but why would he stay and send partial payments if he couldn't pay it? I hope hash knows what he is doing.

Well, his name and address is known. Also I don't think he's a bad guy. Just fucked up big time that's all.

Also I guess he's waiting for pirate to bail him out. 12th Oct will come and go. Another stall from pirate will materialize. Waiting for pirate is not an option.

Jurek

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Thanks.

Well that looks really bad, but why would he stay and send partial payments if he couldn't pay it? I hope hash knows what he is doing.

riX

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Quote from: Jurek on October 03, 2012, 06:33:44 AM

And how exactly did you

Quote from: wachtwoord on October 03, 2012, 05:19:06 AM

Based on the info in the previous post total outstanding debt is ~34k BTC

How exactly did you calculate that number?

Multiply every payout with [his deposit excluding paid out interest]/[his payout]. Exclude the change (3.43700101 BTC).
Total debt excluding interest 34218.52 BTC (might have some rounding error).

Jurek

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And how exactly did you

Quote from: wachtwoord on October 03, 2012, 05:19:06 AM

Based on the info in the previous post total outstanding debt is ~34k BTC

How exactly did you calculate that number?

memvola

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on October 03, 2012, 05:31:48 AM

34K !!!

That explains why he kept quiet about it.

To keep within our 3 year target, he needs to payout approx BTC218 per week.

With difficulty about to explode into orbit, if he hasn't got some bad boy ASICs in the pipeline, I think we can all scrub out this 3 year plan. More like 300 years. Sad

Even with ASICs, it's very hard to do through mining if Bitcoin continues to gain popularity.

One thing that can be done is an option to convert the debt to other currencies. Basically Hash agrees to convert Alice's 100 BTC debt to 1000 EUR. Alice buys 100 BTC with her 1000 EUR today, thereby making her initial 'BTC' investment whole. She then converts every payment she gets from Hash to EUR upon receipt. The obligation ends when Alice has been paid 1000 EUR.

If the payment will be made through mining, this will be the only approach to make it viable. Of course Alice will get more than 100 BTC if EUR/BTC exchange rate goes down, but it doesn't affect Hash because he will also be making more by mining.

The pro rata algorithm can remain based on the conventional "remaining BTC" balance and the converted account can be checked in parallel. This way, converting your account to an inflating currency would be favored.

Buffer Overflow

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Quote from: wachtwoord on October 03, 2012, 05:19:06 AM

Based on the info in the previous post total outstanding debt is ~34k BTC

34K !!!

That explains why he kept quiet about it.

To keep within our 3 year target, he needs to payout approx BTC218 per week.

With difficulty about to explode into orbit, if he hasn't got some bad boy ASICs in the pipeline, I think we can all scrub out this 3 year plan. More like 300 years. Sad

wachtwoord

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I have received the test Payment, thank you Hashking.

Based on the info in the previous post total outstanding debt is ~34k BTC

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