[HAVELOCK] (HIF) Havelock Investments Fund - page 21.

crumbs

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Quote from: havelock on November 21, 2013, 11:17:21 AM

Quote from: crumbs on November 21, 2013, 09:33:35 AM

Please refrain from sending me information via private messages. Doing so avails you full deniability, puts me in an awkward position where i am unable to share this information with other potential investors, and is no way of conducting legitimate business.
A legitimate firm does not disburse essential corporate information through forum PMs. Be kind enough to include it in your prospectus and post it in this thread.

Regards

Edit: Thus far, the info you have offered in your PM does not check out.

Dear Crumbs,

Thank you for your input. We tried to reach out to you but have yet to receive any contact from you other then posting on this forum. If any potential individual would like to come visit us personally or call us directly. Here is our contact numbers:

Telephone Toll free Canada/USA: 1-866-305-1531
Telephone International/Panama: +507-832-2461

A quick search for your US number results in http://scamadvocates.com/1442-Secure-Holding-Investments.html "Secure Holding Investments Scam."

Awesome.

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Quote from: crumbs on November 21, 2013, 09:33:35 AM

Please refrain from sending me information via private messages. Doing so avails you full deniability, puts me in an awkward position where i am unable to share this information with other potential investors, and is no way of conducting legitimate business.
A legitimate firm does not disburse essential corporate information through forum PMs. Be kind enough to include it in your prospectus and post it in this thread.

Regards

Edit: Thus far, the info you have offered in your PM does not check out.

Dear Crumbs,

Thank you for your input. We tried to reach out to you but have yet to receive any contact from you other then posting on this forum. If any potential individual would like to come visit us personally or call us directly. Here is our contact numbers:

Telephone Toll free Canada/USA: ~~1-866-305-1531~~ Edit: 1-866-978-8076
Telephone International/Panama: +507-832-2461

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Quote from: havelock on November 21, 2013, 09:08:46 AM

Quote from: crumbs on November 21, 2013, 09:02:56 AM

Quote from: havelock on November 21, 2013, 07:55:49 AM

...The link to a "Shelf" company by crumbs is a defunct website that hasn't functioned in a couple of years. Go ahead and click on the links on that site and it would give you errors. Also The Panama Fund is administered by a Law Firm here in Panama.

Not sure why data on a defunct website would be any less relevant, but I'll bite.
The site is by no means defunct. If you bothered to open the index page, you would have known that it was last updated less than two months ago. The site's archives go back to September 2004, and its owner provides his full name. You don't give us your name, just a throwaway phone number.

You go on to say that The Panama Fund is administered by "a Law Firm here in Panama." You do not offer the name of the law firm.

So, let's start establishing a measure of credibility.
What is your name?

It's defunct that it hasn't been updated since 2010, when the Database platform was changed in the public registry.

PANAMA LEGAL MANAGEMENT administrates The Panama Fund.

I also PM you with personal info. If you are in Panama or know someone that is we would love to have them visit our offices.

Thank You
HavelockInvestments.com

Please refrain from sending me information via private messages. Doing so avails you full deniability, puts me in an awkward position where i am unable to share this information with other potential investors, and is no way of conducting legitimate business.
A legitimate firm does not disburse essential corporate information through forum PMs. Be kind enough to include it in your prospectus and post it in this thread.

Regards

Edit: Thus far, the info you have offered in your PM does not check out.

havelock

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Quote from: crumbs on November 21, 2013, 09:02:56 AM

Quote from: havelock on November 21, 2013, 07:55:49 AM

...The link to a "Shelf" company by crumbs is a defunct website that hasn't functioned in a couple of years. Go ahead and click on the links on that site and it would give you errors. Also The Panama Fund is administered by a Law Firm here in Panama.

Not sure why data on a defunct website would be any less relevant, but I'll bite.
The site is by no means defunct. If you bothered to open the index page, you would have known that it was last updated less than two months ago. The site's archives go back to September 2004, and its owner provides his full name. You don't give us your name, just a throwaway phone number.

You go on to say that The Panama Fund is administered by "a Law Firm here in Panama." You do not offer the name of the law firm.

So, let's start establishing a measure of credibility.
What is your name?

It's defunct that it hasn't been updated since 2010, when the Database platform was changed in the public registry.

PANAMA LEGAL MANAGEMENT administrates The Panama Fund.

I also PM you with personal info. If you are in Panama or know someone that is we would love to have them visit our offices.

Thank You
HavelockInvestments.com

crumbs

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Quote from: havelock on November 21, 2013, 07:55:49 AM

...The link to a "Shelf" company by crumbs is a defunct website that hasn't functioned in a couple of years. Go ahead and click on the links on that site and it would give you errors. Also The Panama Fund is administered by a Law Firm here in Panama.

Not sure why data on a defunct website would be any less relevant, but I'll bite.
The site is not defunct. Its index page was last updated less than two months ago. The site's archives go back to September 2004, and its owner provides his full name. You don't give us your name, just a throwaway phone number.

You go on to say that The Panama Fund is administered by "a Law Firm here in Panama." You do not offer the name of the law firm.

I'm happy to help by offering you a way to establish a measure of credibility:
What is your name?
What is your involvement with Havelock?

enderbender

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Quote from: moribana on November 21, 2013, 07:08:39 AM

Quote from: minerpumpkin on November 20, 2013, 06:35:53 PM

Quote from: havelock on November 20, 2013, 06:34:06 PM

Quote from: freedomno1 on November 20, 2013, 06:31:39 PM

Congrats on Phase 1 IPO selling out
Wink

Thank you,

We appreciate all the support and the great feedback and input from all of the users of our website HavelockInvestments.com

When can we start the trading?

I bet you wanna achieve trading fees Cheesy

I think that without trading people are left in the dark regarding the market value of this share. Maybe this is intentional and they will not enable trading during the IPO. Anyway, I think that it would be fair if they at least stated when trading will start.

translated: i wanna flip shares!, y u trick me?

the joke is on everyone that bought these, in a month theyll be much cheaper too

havelock

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Trading will commence once the IVFO is complete per our prospectus.

Over the past few months many of our users have contacted us and wanted a way for us to offer them a way to purchase, invest in our company. The best and fairest way was to offer our own Fund on our site. The link to a "Shelf" company by crumbs is a defunct website that hasn't functioned in a couple of years. Go ahead and click on the links on that site and it would give you errors. Also The Panama Fund is administered by a Law Firm here in Panama. The same Law Firm administers various other Investment companies, hence their names will be on the other companies as well. One of the partners in the Panama Fund will be traveling next week and will be in Vancouver, Canada. He will be setting up a meet up with anyone that would like to attend. Feel free to just pick up the phone and call us. How many Bitcoin business don't have a phone number, ours is on our contact us page.

Thank you,

HavelockInvestments.com

moribana

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Quote from: minerpumpkin on November 20, 2013, 06:35:53 PM

Quote from: havelock on November 20, 2013, 06:34:06 PM

Quote from: freedomno1 on November 20, 2013, 06:31:39 PM

Congrats on Phase 1 IPO selling out
Wink

Thank you,

We appreciate all the support and the great feedback and input from all of the users of our website HavelockInvestments.com

When can we start the trading?

I bet you wanna achieve trading fees Cheesy

I think that without trading people are left in the dark regarding the market value of this share. Maybe this is intentional and they will not enable trading during the IPO. Anyway, I think that it would be fair if they at least stated when trading will start.

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Bitgoblin

Quote from: lewicki on November 20, 2013, 09:56:52 PM

Why is an investment firm purchasing an asset only to try and raise an investment from other investors? What is 3600XBT to "The Panama Fund" and why can't they pony up 1.6 million dollars themselves. Seems Illogical.

Because "they want us to be part of their magic dream".
I.e. they are going to take the money and then kindly weep and apoligise when the dividends are shit, and the return of investment is pretty much never.
Or they are going to pay dividends using the funds they raised i.e. ponzi.

Obvious scam is obvious.

Lohoris

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Bitgoblin

Quote from: bobboooiie on November 20, 2013, 06:01:25 PM

Seriously this all looks so weird, are we even dealing with the same people that were behind havelock before this panama business bought them? Or is this is just some sort of balant scam.

+1

they are either completely insane or definitely shady, and I'd opt for the latter.

This is quite sad, I was optimistic about HL when the notice of this Panama-based company buying it, but now it's clear they are in it just for some quick buck, deceiving potential investors...

lewicki

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Why is an investment firm purchasing an asset only to try and raise an investment from other investors? What is 3600XBT to "The Panama Fund" and why can't they pony up 1.6 million dollars themselves. Seems Illogical.

crumbs

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Invest in a Panamanian shelf company with no history and no real names attached? Into this: http://ohuiginn.net/panama/company/id/610201
What could possibly go wrong?*

*Taking into account that 90% of BTC-denominated securities turn out to be scams, 100% lose money, and...
...and the proprietor of this fine enterprise, while asking for millions of dollars, *won't even give you his name*.

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Could you please go ahead and elaborate on the concerns raised in this thread?

havelock

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Quote from: DavidMc0 on November 20, 2013, 06:39:53 PM

Quote from: havelock on November 20, 2013, 06:25:24 PM

The original HavelockInvestments.com team will remain in place and will play a key role in the future growth of the company.

I very much hope this is the case and that Havelock + The Panama Fund are a combo that build a great company together.

Does the Panama Fund have a web site?

I'll also add my congratulations for the Phase 1 IPO sell out

The Panama Fund does not have a website since for the past 5 years it has acted as a Private Investment Company.
But Feel free to contact us at any time to find out more.

Thank you,

Havelock Investments

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Quote from: havelock on November 20, 2013, 06:25:24 PM

The original HavelockInvestments.com team will remain in place and will play a key role in the future growth of the company.

I very much hope this is the case and that Havelock + The Panama Fund are a combo that build a great company together.

Does the Panama Fund have a web site?

I'll also add my congratulations for the Phase 1 IPO sell out

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Quote from: havelock on November 20, 2013, 06:34:06 PM

Quote from: freedomno1 on November 20, 2013, 06:31:39 PM

Congrats on Phase 1 IPO selling out
Wink

Thank you,

We appreciate all the support and the great feedback and input from all of the users of our website HavelockInvestments.com

When can we start the trading?

I bet you wanna achieve trading fees Cheesy

havelock

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Quote from: freedomno1 on November 20, 2013, 06:31:39 PM

Congrats on Phase 1 IPO selling out
Wink

Thank you,

We appreciate all the support and the great feedback and input from all of the users of our website HavelockInvestments.com

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Learning the troll avoidance button :)

Congrats on Phase 1 IPO selling out
Wink

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Quote from: DavidMc0 on November 20, 2013, 06:23:27 PM

Acquire a trusted name in the Bitcoin world on which you can list your own IPO without scrutiny, shortly after rush out an IPO, offer discounts for the first issue to encourage quick buying, only release info hours before IPO so people don't figure it out, take hundreds of coins & run off?

It does seem strange, and would be clever. I really hope it's not the case. Especially as I have (perhaps stupidly - we'll see), bought a few shares!

November 1, 2013 - Havelock Investments (HavelockInvestments.com), a leading Bitcoin Denominated Investment Fund, announced today that it has executed a definitive agreement to be acquired by The Panama Fund, S.A, a fully licensed and registered Panamanian Investment Company.

The acquisitions creates the world's first, fully licensed, Bitcoin Denominated Fund Exchange, where companies from around the world will be able to raise capital directly, through the exclusive use of Bitcoins.

With this acquisition HavelockInvestments.com will be able to maintain its current Funds, as well as expand its operations, while attracting new opportunities in the rapidly expanding Bitcoin Marketplace.

The original HavelockInvestments.com team will remain in place and will play a key role in the future growth of the company.

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Acquire a trusted name in the Bitcoin world on which you can list your own IPO without scrutiny, shortly after rush out an IPO, offer discounts for the first issue to encourage quick buying, only release info hours before IPO so people don't figure it out, take hundreds of coins & run off?

It does seem strange, and would be clever. I really hope it's not the case. Especially as I have (perhaps stupidly - we'll see), bought a few shares!

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