Topic: Health and Religion - page 106. (Read 210900 times)
That is a very good tutorials I believed some christian prefare prayers to hospital when they are sick also in some countries they prefare traditional way of healing for their health needs
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Have you ever tried removing the god from that picture and just consider the overall life, genetics and lifestyle?
Have you ever tried removing the god from that picture and just consider the overall life, genetics and lifestyle?
Yes, I did just that for many years. Such an approach takes one back to God once you realize that to truly maintain a healthy lifestyle one must avoid sin.
There Is No Wisdom in Sin
http://www.worldinvisible.com/library/tozer/5j00.0010/5j00.0010.c.htm
Quote from: A.W. Tozer
Whatever other factors may be present in an act of wrongdoing, folly is one that is never absent. To do a wrong act a man must for the moment think wrong; he must exercise bad judgment.
Sin, I repeat, in addition to anything else it may be, is always an act of wrong judgment. To commit a sin a man must for the moment believe that things are different from what they really are; he must confound values; he must see the moral universe out of focus; he must accept a lie as truth and see truth as a lie; he must ignore the signs on the highway and drive with his eyes shut; he must act as if he had no soul and was not accountable for his moral choices.
Sin is never a thing to be proud of. No act is wise that ignores remote consequences, and sin always does. Sin sees only today, or at most tomorrow; never the day after tomorrow, next month or next year. Death and judgment are pushed aside as if they did not exist...
Sin is basically an act of moral folly, and the greater the folly the greater the fool.
Sin, I repeat, in addition to anything else it may be, is always an act of wrong judgment. To commit a sin a man must for the moment believe that things are different from what they really are; he must confound values; he must see the moral universe out of focus; he must accept a lie as truth and see truth as a lie; he must ignore the signs on the highway and drive with his eyes shut; he must act as if he had no soul and was not accountable for his moral choices.
Sin is never a thing to be proud of. No act is wise that ignores remote consequences, and sin always does. Sin sees only today, or at most tomorrow; never the day after tomorrow, next month or next year. Death and judgment are pushed aside as if they did not exist...
Sin is basically an act of moral folly, and the greater the folly the greater the fool.
If God be regarded as a kind of egregore that protects those who feeds him, then it is possible that he will protect his followers. Including gives them health.
God does not give anyone health. If a person is sick it is said that God was punishing him, but if a person is healthy it means that God loves him. Lies. Hate Putin all over the world and he is healthy. I guess God loves him? Then why is God needed?He didn't even give the free will to people, lucifer had to tell them to eat that goddamn tree for the to be like god. Have you ever tried removing the god from that picture and just consider the overall life, genetics and lifestyle?
Fuckin hell Coincube - why didn't you just post a link to William James' "Varieties of Religious Experience" and be done with it ? For someone who purports to be a doctor of medicine you seem to have a lot of time on your hands. I can't see too many junior doctors in the UK, even if they had the inclination for this shit, actually finding the time for it.
You are for real aren't you Coincube ?
Please don't be too hard on Coincube. I probably wouldn't have looked if all there was was a link. It was a very interesting article. Benefits to the social animal by socializing in religious atmosphere.
I take it you did not like the article practicaldreamer? I will admit I did not look too deeply into the data behind the article but it was written by a professor of epidemiology at Harvard so my assumption is that the data is reliable. Here is the educational background of the author if you want further info.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/tyler-vanderweele/
Education: Tyler VanderWeele Professor of Epidemiology
Ph.D. (Biostatistics) 2006, Harvard University
A.M. (Biostatistics) 2005, Harvard University
M.A. (Mathematics) 2005, University of Oxford
M.A. (Finance and Applied Economics) 2002, Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania
B.A. (Philosophy and Theology) 2000, University of Oxford
B.A. (Mathematics) 2000, University of Oxford
The topic of the article is the relationship between attending religious services and health so it is very much on topic for this thread.
You describe the good professors article as "this shit" so I am assuming you have some problem with the article independent of your kind concerns about my limited free time.
Yes. These days you can find all kinds of benefits listed just from meditating. So, when you add meditating with friends, so that there is comfort in mutual support of ideals, the benefits should be a lot greater. And that is to say nothing about the special benefits that God might bestow on those who worship Him during/within their meditation.
Is that what priests tell the little children as they are molesting them in the name of Jesus? Is your god bestowing them with a gift?
If God be regarded as a kind of egregore that protects those who feeds him, then it is possible that he will protect his followers. Including gives them health.
God does not give anyone health. If a person is sick it is said that God was punishing him, but if a person is healthy it means that God loves him. Lies. Hate Putin all over the world and he is healthy. I guess God loves him? Then why is God needed? 
If God be regarded as a kind of egregore that protects those who feeds him, then it is possible that he will protect his followers. Including gives them health.
Fuckin hell Coincube - why didn't you just post a link to William James' "Varieties of Religious Experience" and be done with it ? For someone who purports to be a doctor of medicine you seem to have a lot of time on your hands. I can't see too many junior doctors in the UK, even if they had the inclination for this shit, actually finding the time for it.
You are for real aren't you Coincube ?
Please don't be too hard on Coincube. I probably wouldn't have looked if all there was was a link. It was a very interesting article. Benefits to the social animal by socializing in religious atmosphere.
I take it you did not like the article practicaldreamer? I will admit I did not look too deeply into the data behind the article but it was written by a professor of epidemiology at Harvard so my assumption is that the data is reliable. Here is the educational background of the author if you want further info.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/tyler-vanderweele/
Education: Tyler VanderWeele Professor of Epidemiology
Ph.D. (Biostatistics) 2006, Harvard University
A.M. (Biostatistics) 2005, Harvard University
M.A. (Mathematics) 2005, University of Oxford
M.A. (Finance and Applied Economics) 2002, Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania
B.A. (Philosophy and Theology) 2000, University of Oxford
B.A. (Mathematics) 2000, University of Oxford
The topic of the article is the relationship between attending religious services and health so it is very much on topic for this thread.
You describe the good professors article as "this shit" so I am assuming you have some problem with the article independent of your kind concerns about my limited free time.
Yes. These days you can find all kinds of benefits listed just from meditating. So, when you add meditating with friends, so that there is comfort in mutual support of ideals, the benefits should be a lot greater. And that is to say nothing about the special benefits that God might bestow on those who worship Him during/within their meditation.
Fuckin hell Coincube - why didn't you just post a link to William James' "Varieties of Religious Experience" and be done with it ? For someone who purports to be a doctor of medicine you seem to have a lot of time on your hands. I can't see too many junior doctors in the UK, even if they had the inclination for this shit, actually finding the time for it.
You are for real aren't you Coincube ?
Please don't be too hard on Coincube. I probably wouldn't have looked if all there was was a link. It was a very interesting article. Benefits to the social animal by socializing in religious atmosphere.
I take it you did not like the article practicaldreamer? I will admit I did not look too deeply into the data behind the article but it was written by a professor of epidemiology at Harvard so my assumption is that the data is reliable. Here is the educational background of the author if you want further info.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/tyler-vanderweele/
Education: Tyler VanderWeele Professor of Epidemiology
Ph.D. (Biostatistics) 2006, Harvard University
A.M. (Biostatistics) 2005, Harvard University
M.A. (Mathematics) 2005, University of Oxford
M.A. (Finance and Applied Economics) 2002, Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania
B.A. (Philosophy and Theology) 2000, University of Oxford
B.A. (Mathematics) 2000, University of Oxford
The topic of the article is the relationship between attending religious services and health so it is very much on topic for this thread.
You describe the good professors article as "this shit" so I am assuming you have some problem with the article independent of your kind concerns about my limited free time?
You will have to get rid of a lot more of your foolishness before you will be able to see clearly to do anything.
Still here replying to this hopelessly atheist? Don't you have a "holy mass" waiting for you in your local church?
Are you still convinced that you will deceive me, eventually? Save some dignity, stop playing with me, you won't win this race!
Nobody could deceive you. You are caught up in your own self-deception so deeply that there isn't room for anyone else.
You will have to get rid of a lot more of your foolishness before you will be able to see clearly to do anything.
Still here replying to this hopelessly atheist? Don't you have a "holy mass" waiting for you in your local church?
Are you still convinced that you will deceive me, eventually? Save some dignity, stop playing with me, you won't win this race!
Nobody could deceive you. You are caught up in your own self-deception so deeply that there isn't room for anyone else.
You will have to get rid of a lot more of your foolishness before you will be able to see clearly to do anything.
Still here replying to this hopelessly atheist? Don't you have a "holy mass" waiting for you in your local church?
Are you still convinced that you will deceive me, eventually? Save some dignity, stop playing with me, you won't win this race!
Oh sure. Your real reason is so that it is easier to kill me that it would be if I was in an asylum. Look at what you said here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16815648.
Here comes the freedom of religion. They can't even take you if you invoke your freedom of religion. Ha, ha, ha.
Here comes the freedom of religion. They can't even take you if you invoke your freedom of religion. Ha, ha, ha.
You take written words too much seriously, don't you? Maybe this is why you believe your holy book so blindly!
Do not fear, BADecker... I won't kill you. Your foolishness maybe...
You will have to get rid of a lot more of your foolishness before you will be able to see clearly to do anything.
Oh sure. Your real reason is so that it is easier to kill me that it would be if I was in an asylum. Look at what you said here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16815648.
Here comes the freedom of religion. They can't even take you if you invoke your freedom of religion. Ha, ha, ha.
Here comes the freedom of religion. They can't even take you if you invoke your freedom of religion. Ha, ha, ha.
You take written words too much seriously, don't you? Maybe this is why you believe your holy book so blindly!
Do not fear, BADecker... I won't kill you. Your foolishness maybe...
But why? Here I am, completely friendly and loving towards you, trying with all my strength to get you into Heaven and eternal life, and all you can say is bad things about me.
Why?
Why?
Heaven, eternal life etc. don't exist... so you're wasting your time, and mine. And because my time is precious, this makes me badmouth you.
So, you keep on wasting your time on me just so you can badmouth me for wasting your time? Sounds like atheist logic to me.
I'm trying to save you from the eternal lockup in the psychiatric ward, but this is turning way much difficult than I was expecting.
Here comes the freedom of choice: I will let you in the - not so friendly - hands of the doctors... at least I've tried. Have a nice stay!
Oh sure. Your real reason is so that it is easier to kill me that it would be if I was in an asylum. Look at what you said here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16815648.
Here comes the freedom of religion. They can't even take you if you invoke your freedom of religion. Ha, ha, ha.
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Fuckin hell Coincube - why didn't you just post a link to William James' "Varieties of Religious Experience" and be done with it ? For someone who purports to be a doctor of medicine you seem to have a lot of time on your hands. I can't see too many junior doctors in the UK, even if they had the inclination for this shit, actually finding the time for it.
You are for real aren't you Coincube ?
Please don't be too hard on Coincube. I probably wouldn't have looked if all there was was a link. It was a very interesting article. Benefits to the social animal by socializing in religious atmosphere.
But why? Here I am, completely friendly and loving towards you, trying with all my strength to get you into Heaven and eternal life, and all you can say is bad things about me.
Why?
Why?
Heaven, eternal life etc. don't exist... so you're wasting your time, and mine. And because my time is precious, this makes me badmouth you.
So, you keep on wasting your time on me just so you can badmouth me for wasting your time? Sounds like atheist logic to me.
I'm trying to save you from the eternal lockup in the psychiatric ward, but this is turning way much difficult than I was expecting.
Here comes the freedom of choice: I will let you in the - not so friendly - hands of the doctors... at least I've tried. Have a nice stay!
.........
Fuckin hell Coincube - why didn't you just post a link to William James' "Varieties of Religious Experience" and be done with it ? For someone who purports to be a doctor of medicine you seem to have a lot of time on your hands. I can't see too many junior doctors in the UK, even if they had the inclination for this shit, actually finding the time for it.
You are for real aren't you Coincube ?
But why? Here I am, completely friendly and loving towards you, trying with all my strength to get you into Heaven and eternal life, and all you can say is bad things about me.
Why?
Why?
Heaven, eternal life etc. don't exist... so you're wasting your time, and mine. And because my time is precious, this makes me badmouth you.
So, you keep on wasting your time on me just so you can badmouth me for wasting your time? Sounds like atheist logic to me.
But why? Here I am, completely friendly and loving towards you, trying with all my strength to get you into Heaven and eternal life, and all you can say is bad things about me.
Why?
Why?
Heaven, eternal life etc. don't exist... so you're wasting your time, and mine. And because my time is precious, this makes me badmouth you.
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