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CryptoTown On The Ground V0.1g released.

I have clarified the CryptoMall terminology which I think really does this justice in more quickly conveying what we are doing!

I am really excited to develop the actual methods and resources, but tonnes of work going on for CGB's bday as well! Here is an excerpt with most of the changes/new text:

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1.1 Methods and Philosophy

In order to launch a project such as this, it really helps to have solid foundation laid. As this is an open collaboration, not only the product should be readily available, but also the methods and philosophy used to create it. This will help participants to better understand the guide, but to expand upon it with the right frame of mind. This guide acknowledges and attempts to address many general realities so as not to be unsustainable. These conclusions should be reached by analysing the potential conflict and cooperation between the intelligent rational individuals who will be participating in this new cryptoeconomy. There are many elements to consider, and the balances between them will evolve as new players join in. As the currency itself is decentralized, there are new considerations about just what kind of centralization will be left over to maintain a stable balance. Part of this new balance is the acceptance of an amount of responsibility in protecting ourselves from scams or mistakes which can result in loss.

It is understood that there were already "Crypto Towns" in existence when this guide was created. The ideas presented here can be integrated to whatever extent a community decides. New CryptoTowns may use the guide but not integrate with other CryptoTowns for resource sharing, or maybe they just use the promotional material and do their own thing. This is accepted, because it's the natural progression of an idea which central control would only stifle. Communities doing so may find difficulty in receiving support from more collaborative CyptoTown communities and confidence instilled by the reputation of the overall project. The CryptoTown On The Ground project is the a product of collaborative effort amongst the self-managed CryptoTown Malls (or CryptoMalls) to explore and document the most effective methods to facilitate the adoption of cryptocurrencies as part of stronger communities.

2.0 The CryptoTown Protocol

The CryptoTown Protocol is a scalable and modular set of guidelines to meeting the needs of communities, businesses, and individuals as they adapt to cryptocurrency technologies. The structure is designed to be as simple and flexible as possible to account for groups as small as a few businesses along a street, or geographically dispersed across an entire country. Each collection is referred to as a CryptoMall and it is a self managed entity. CryptoMalls may be in competition with each other over the quality and relevance of their listings.

2.1 My CryptoTown Mall (CryptoMall)

A CryptoMall is a collection of one or more businesses and volunteers who agree to follow the CryptoTown protocol and adapt it to their needs. The core of each CryptoMall is a volunteer or group of volunteers who ensure that the guidelines are best applied. Each CryptoMall contains a directory which lists the participating establishments and individuals. This directory will also contain "official" links to websites and social media hangouts as well as any other relevant information. Part of the duty of these volunteers is to ensure that this information is as widely accessible and shared as possible. This includes collaboration with local community members and officials, and with other CryptoMalls (the project).

Each individual CryptoMall will decide which services they shall provide, the requirements for entry, costs associated, and which rules to apply to participants. In order to be considered a proper CryptoMall there are some bare minimum expectations which should be followed to allow success. There should be at least one accountable volunteer who is willing to accept calls, return emails and physically attend meetings related to the project. A directory should be maintained of all participating establishments, and there should be at least one participating establishment. In the spirit of the project, businesses who wish to be listed should have a physical commercial location and meet with the volunteer as part of the vetting process which may determine the quality of the directory.
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Hey, Killiz!

Feel free to laugh out loud: I doubt I'll be able to manage photos or vids for a while. I live in a farm house so far out in the Australian bush that I can see an emu out the window right now. And I am vision-impaired. And I get only a trickle of Internet. Can't figure out how to load a photo on this site.

Mark, Australia

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Perhaps we can best support Artiface by assuring him that we can use well the time until he is truly ready to return: 'lead-dev burnout' is setting in about the place. The present wallet will do for the present -- it must.

Woo hoo!!! Wanna climb to a New Plane, campers??? Start compiling a Directory!!

" Stainless-Steel Mosquito-Coil Holders
Crochead Pty Ltd
http://crochead.myshopify.com/
255 Aumuller St., Westcourt (Cairns)
04 01532237
[status verified]

Turf:
Lush Turf Solutions
http://www.lushturfsolutions.com.au/
9/1440 New Cleveland Road, Capalaba West, Brisbane
+61 7 3390 2551 with 0 or not???
[Status unverified]

Underwear:
# UndieGuys
http://www.undieguys.com.au
addresss???
phone???
[Status unverified]"


You could even build a local or a state one -- whatever: wow!!! what a way to get in touch with the crypto folk who are our consultancy's customers.

PSD: 'the next big leg up'? Expedia? Google and Yahoo stock tickers? a trial at the Holiday Inn? the end of The China Thing well in sight?

Mark Blair, Unicup, Western Australia

What you are doing Mark is fantastic, total 'nutz and boltz' aproach to introducing cryptos to folk who otherwise could be years behind the revolution.  Totally inspiring to see someone up to their armpits in elbow grease, pushing their passion beyond the screen and into the scene.

Maybe someone could throw together some flyers or posters we could each print off to hand out, hammer up and letterbox??  

Killiz,  England UK

Edit: Mark, get some snaps and vids if possible of what you are achieving with the crypto town project. Would really like to see the progress as it happens.
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Good news indeed!

What we need now is for our followers/readers and holders to find their voice and get active in this thread and over at reddit in preperation for when followers of NXT/DRK/DOGE and LTC come poking around here.

CGB seems to attract the silent type, the silent partners of an investment opportunity. 

We need everyone to get EDUCATED get MOTIVATED and get INVOLVED.
 
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legendary
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That is pretty cool. Wonder why the price dumped 17 %.

because a certain CGB holder is trying to suppress the price, even after they had 3btc worth taken off their hands, they still had to dump it back down so they could accumulate Sad

The new sell wall that has appeared can only belong to the manipulator as i know of the person who bought that huge wall last week and they have taken it away from market and planning to hold it for the long term in their wallet for stake.

the sooner CGB finds other exchanges and wider audience the better/imho, one exchange is easy to manipulate price on but when established on multiple exchanges would be alot tricker imho.  



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Good news.
MGW added CGB.


That is pretty cool. Wonder why the price dumped 17 %.
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Hello CGB community!

Finite By Design LLC has a limited batch of 50 CGB Proofs, each minted of 1 troy ounce of .999 fine silver. Each proof comes with:
  • Associated address and private key hidden behind a hologram on the reverse side
  • Protective plastic capsule enclosing the proof itself
  • Custom stamped leatherette presentation case
  • Custom stamped paper sleeve for the leatherette
  • Certificate of Authenticity identifying each proof as one of the limited batch of 50



We are running a $100 per proof June special which is applicable to each of our 7 lines of proofs.
  • '1/10th Bitcoin'
  • '1 Litecoin'
  • '10 Namecoins'
  • '10 Peercoins'
  • '10 Peercoins' with 24K gold highlights
  • '11 Primecoins'
  • '10 Cryptogenic Bullion' Bars



Also on June 19th our 2 lines of DOGE coins (100 made out of nickel and 100 made out of copper) will be arriving! Each DOGE proof comes with an unattached hologram so the customer can add their own private key and fund the piece should they so desire. Pricing is $30 for singles or $250 for 10.


Looks Great  Smiley !
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IMZ
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Perhaps we can best support Artiface by assuring him that we can use well the time until he is truly ready to return: 'lead-dev burnout' is setting in about the place. The present wallet will do for the present -- it must.

Woo hoo!!! Wanna climb to a New Plane, campers??? Start compiling a Directory!!

" Stainless-Steel Mosquito-Coil Holders
Crochead Pty Ltd
http://crochead.myshopify.com/
255 Aumuller St., Westcourt (Cairns)
04 01532237
[status verified]

Turf:
Lush Turf Solutions
http://www.lushturfsolutions.com.au/
9/1440 New Cleveland Road, Capalaba West, Brisbane
+61 7 3390 2551 with 0 or not???
[Status unverified]

Underwear:
# UndieGuys
http://www.undieguys.com.au
addresss???
phone???
[Status unverified]"


You could even build a local or a state one -- whatever: wow!!! what a way to get in touch with the crypto folk who are our consultancy's customers.

PSD: 'the next big leg up'? Expedia? Google and Yahoo stock tickers? a trial at the Holiday Inn? the end of The China Thing well in sight?

Mark Blair, Unicup, Western Australia
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CGB Core Team Weekly Update - June 16, 2014

Please also see the Reddit post for further discussion.

As we work to align CGB and our community efforts to the reality of the situation in the cryptosphere, our purpose has becomes more clear. We are hopefully approaching the end of the current loss of interest and capital in the overall crypto markets which has thrown aside so many coins which were not fundamentally sound enough to survive. If we are indeed approaching the next big leg up or not is a question that has no bearing on our direction. We are taking the bull by the horns and doing something that, to my knowledge, no other cryptocoin community has done. We see it all the time where advocates of one coin or another are baffled by how undervalued their coin is. They try to convince each other about how much better one or the other is and that capital should be placed here or there. There is a fixation on the price, which leads nowhere, and only makes a coin look less secure.

What are we doing differently? We are building value (which precedes price) by directly tackling the problems which prevent that next big leg up from happening. We have discerned the next logical steps not only for CGB but for Bitcoin, Dogecoin, Peercoin, etc. It cannot be logically argued that "on the ground" adoption is not the next step that the cryptosphere should be putting its efforts into. We see a chicken and egg puzzle which requires capital to fund projects to push for cryptocurrency adoption, and yet the adoption is what will drive the next capitalization phase! This is to be solved by jump starting the process by bringing together the necessary intellectual capital to create a grassroots system which businesses and communities can use to deploy cryptocurrencies at little or no cost! We are creating a framework that anyone can use to give their coin "real world value" by facilitating adoption in a decentralized manner.

How does CGB benefit? The biggest hurdle CGB has faced is education. With a complete system in place which clarifies the need for a "suite of coins" to facilitate a strong cryptoeconomy, the value of coins like CGB will naturally be extolled. We are not going to stand by and wait for a better world to come along which understands the hows and whys of cryptocurrency for CGB to thrive in. We will create it. The natural evolution of cryptocurrencies is what will drive the demand for and appreciation of CGB among others. In this endeavor we will leverage the reputation and image of CGB to lead the greater community forward in the spirit of collaboration, casting aside the petty differences that keep us all down. CGB will soon be known as a coin with a community of consultants, who value highly any opportunity to develop answers to questions that have not yet been asked. This is the consultancy culture. This is what will attract further thinkers who wish to find logical discourse to explore their own vision.

Some latest updates to share with the community are regarding our search for developers, and our push for media attention. Artiface, our lead developer, is still in the middle of work and personal related time crunch which is as unexpected as it is unfortunate for us. He has conveyed hope that he will be able to come back to full potential within the next month or two. In the mean time we hope to leverage our publicity not only with CGB's birthday, but some real media connections that we are currently fostering, to expand our search. We expect that with our continued momentum building, we should be able to find more developer support within the greater community. We hope to be able to get some more widespread recognition of our ideas and progress in the coming weeks as these efforts come to fruition. We urge our community to put their own thinking caps on and make some comments especially in our development workshop threads.

The CGB Core Team
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Morning, PSD!

I shall read and re-read these notes. I really want to get the 'balance' right. Meanwhile, it's beginning to look as though the cryptomall will be huge!!

And you'll be delighted with the 'coin-neutrality' policy of the mall(s): we have cleared the fairground; anyone who wants to can pitch a tent -- which fits beautifully with the consultancy notion: the more successful Every Coin is, the more likely CGB is to become their Vault Coin.

Mark, Australia
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[I am embarassed that I can't afford a silver coin.]

I just wanna check if I understand correctly:

One: Planet Marketcap is fixated on volume.

Two: CGB is unique in not being oriented to volume.

Three: when we are truly established, it won't matter.

Four: meanwhile though, while we are honestly developing the coin commercially, it's entirely practical for CGB-ers to trade CGB pretty much as hard as they like.

Five: we should be/are 'tightening up' our trading, congregating the volume on a couple of good exchanges (Mintpal!!).

Six: CGB's nature indicates the optimal development strategy: as a complementary coin that is not in competition with others (at least far far less than is usual). It is particularly suited to business people -- outside the crypto sphere -- simply because it is (will be) 'low maintenance.'

Seven: (this is what I want to get clear): CGB's place in our cryptomall is not 'front and centre' as a transactional crypto -- but it might serve mightily well for large, less frequent purchases, such as bullion. It could be promoted to merchants as itself, the complementary coin.

It might also serve powerfully as a 'signifier' of knowledge of cryptos, and of contacts within the crypto sphere -- the 'consultancy thing.'

Is this about right?

Mark Blair, Australia
CGB: the coin you're having when you're having other coins

Edit: a note on volume. It comes with utility as CGB finds its way toward wide spread use. I see it as more of a byproduct. The flow will be comprised of both end users, and investors looking to satisfy demand (providing liquidity). This will be important for a more stable price action as large orders come and go through exchanges. (note a slight distinction between realized volume and market support from available orders) Essentially, when it's needed, it will be there (investors/traders satisfy demand). I like to look to gold when exploring the dynamics of CGB. At one point, even gold was not widely valued, and therefore the volume being exchanged can be expected to be lower. This didn't change the eventual outcome (gold is a *highly* liquid (volume) asset).

Agreed.
5. I'd like to see a push to something like Mintpal, it seems to attract a lot of activity, but then again, it seems to really be busy for new launches and pump/exticement. I would love to see a contender to match Cryptsy for CGB trading volume if for no other reason than for resiliency.
6. Low maintenance is one good reason rooted in the fact of it's current and unchanging low inflation.
7. I see it that way as well. While merchants might not be seeing a lot of customers paying in CGB, it would make sense for them to use it behind the scenes to both store their wealth, and make their larger "cost of business" purchases.

I'd like to clarify that the group (likely of participating businesses) who organizes such a CryptoMall or CryptoTown can support or recommend whichever currencies they like, but I feel it is important that the official guidelines that we are creating for anyone else to make their own has a "secular" stance in that it should not specify one coin or the other but to explain the types and uses (of which CGB will be almost in a class of its own). In the interest of working with natural market forces, individual businesses will ultimately be the deciding factor in which cryptos they will accept, even if they are a member of a network that "officially" endorses others.

The consultancy culture is a real breakthrough.

I have been away for a few days, and should have a community update posted later today!

papersheepdog, Canada
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[I am embarassed that I can't afford a silver coin.]

I just wanna check if I understand correctly:

One: Planet Marketcap is fixated on volume.

Two: CGB is unique in not being oriented to volume.

Three: when we are truly established, it won't matter.

Four: meanwhile though, while we are honestly developing the coin commercially, it's entirely practical for CGB-ers to trade CGB pretty much as hard as they like.

Five: we should be/are 'tightening up' our trading, congregating the volume on a couple of good exchanges (Mintpal!!).

Six: CGB's nature indicates the optimal development strategy: as a complementary coin that is not in competition with others (at least far far less than is usual). It is particularly suited to business people -- outside the crypto sphere -- simply because it is (will be) 'low maintenance.'

Seven: (this is what I want to get clear): CGB's place in our cryptomall is not 'front and centre' as a transactional crypto -- but it might serve mightily well for large, less frequent purchases, such as bullion. It could be promoted to merchants as itself, the complementary coin.

It might also serve powerfully as a 'signifier' of knowledge of cryptos, and of contacts within the crypto sphere -- the 'consultancy thing.'

Is this about right?

Mark Blair, Australia
CGB: the coin you're having when you're having other coins

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Hello CGB community!

Finite By Design LLC has a limited batch of 50 CGB Proofs, each minted of 1 troy ounce of .999 fine silver. Each proof comes with:
  • Associated address and private key hidden behind a hologram on the reverse side
  • Protective plastic capsule enclosing the proof itself
  • Custom stamped leatherette presentation case
  • Custom stamped paper sleeve for the leatherette
  • Certificate of Authenticity identifying each proof as one of the limited batch of 50



We are running a $100 per proof June special which is applicable to each of our 7 lines of proofs.
  • '1/10th Bitcoin'
  • '1 Litecoin'
  • '10 Namecoins'
  • '10 Peercoins'
  • '10 Peercoins' with 24K gold highlights
  • '11 Primecoins'
  • '10 Cryptogenic Bullion' Bars



Also on June 19th our 2 lines of DOGE coins (100 made out of nickel and 100 made out of copper) will be arriving! Each DOGE proof comes with an unattached hologram so the customer can add their own private key and fund the piece should they so desire. Pricing is $30 for singles or $250 for 10.

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Obviously they plan to take all the cash proceeds from the Bitcoin auction and invest into CGB on its 1st birthday  Smiley


elambert, USA
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Guys, we really really really hope you can help us work out the 'clearing house' that the crypto mall will have. It is a whirl of ideas that need to be made real and elegantly integrated.

Here's The Central Idea: imagine something like the Arrivals and Departures Board at an airport. What's listed is the amount of a minor currency that can be converted to fiat dollars (which merchants need) at that moment. Therefore, a customer in the mall who wants to book a $100 hotel room can, at that second, (apart from using BTC and LTC, which can be exchanged in large quantities in real time) pay in CGB, NXT, or Doge -- but not PPcoin.

CGB: $125

PPcoin:$10

NXT:$2300

Doge: $590

A core principle 'behind the Board' is that traders and others -- from IndiaMikeZulu and 'consultancies' like CGB -- will be trading cryptos all the while; and that some of the cryptos and bullion and fiat passing through the clearing-house will be being 'sold into' and ' bought out of' the clearing-house while business in the cryptomall goes on on a daily basis. The cryptomall will be 'front of house.' We will be 'back of house.'

One aspect will be that CGB-ers and others will act to 'hold up one side of the scales' by having 'standing buy orders' in place. Ten CGB-ers committed to the extent of $1000 each (in fiat and a range of cryptos -- and we gotta solve the trust problems inherent here) can create a market in which CGB is well on its way to no longer being a minor currency: if you can use a currency as a currency, it's a currency.

It's a multi-million-dollar idea, guys -- wanna make it a reality??

Mark Blair, Unicup, Western Australia

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