Topic: Hodlonaut Trial (Read 4198 times)

if you want to defend a claim made against you then its normally best (if the results can cause a big issue) to seek legal counsel, which means you have to pay your own lawyers. if you win then the other side compensates you for the costs you incurred.
yes you can ask for public defender if its a criminal case, but not a civil case. 



usually the court systems take a general look at a claim before trial to see if the claim has any merit, basically meets a certain threshold to be worthy of the courts time. so the person making a claim against you needs to show atleast some kind of linkage that shows you may of been involved in something in dispute. also before trial you can respond to the court to show lack of involvement/lack of issue/lack of dispute to get the case dismissed before trial.

however most slappers ensure they make a claim that meets this threshold, which basically means they dont exactly make any random claim about anyone for anything. they do atleast make a claim that shows some kind of linkage between the claimant and defendant
EG CSW cant just make a claim that 'synchronice' is trying to be 'c.wright' thus stealing identity, because you(synchronice) never have

also previous cases made by the claimant can be used to quash some future cases from ever reaching trial, if you word your response correctly to show that the claimant has no case/issue in dispute.
EG CSW had no involvement in BTC development. ('not satoshi' verdict/never a core dev), CSW admits BSV was born in 2018 and done via an fork of bch thus not even a straight line from BTC, core devs had control and were developing the btc protocol years before 2017-18 when the main forks in dispute occured

Yes, it's that f-ed up. In past, faketoshi also exploit it by attacking Cobra (the one who control bitcoin.org website) who don't want to reveal his identity[1]. The unfair outcome only changed[2] after faketoshi lose against COPA who spend almost $6 million in various legal cost[3].

[1] https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/Bitcoin.org/issues/3698
[2] https://www.opencrypto.org/2024-07-24-cobra-order-alert/
[3] https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/07/16/craig-wright-referred-to-uk-prosecutors-for-consideration-of-perjury-charges/

Hi man.

I am referring to the unlikely scenario where CSW manages to convince the judge to prosecute them for rehearsal. In that case they should need money to pay a lawyer to represent them.
I seriously don’t have a lot of experience in regards to that but if anyone knows more, I would be happy to hear about it.

Sorry, I don't understand, why will developers have to pay for legal support? CSW is the one who files a lawsuit against them but without any proof. Is that system really that f-ed up? Can anyone file a lawsuit against me without any proof and make me fall in trouble? Sorry, I have never been in touch with lawsuits and have no idea how they really work. I comment here because I'm simply shocked how they let this liar to file a lawsuit after lawsuit.

This was really a good example.

If that system is that f-ed up, then anyone can make endless claims like Craig does and ruin the life of developers.

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I see articles with the title: Craig Wright admits he is not Satoshi but I can't find where he admitted that? On his website, I see that he has only published the legal notice, he doesn't admit that he is not Satoshi, there is only a legal notice.

How come faketoshi submit another malicious lawsuit? Last time i saw him on news, he ran away from UK[1]. Anyway, let's hope UK court strike out (i'm not sure if it's the correct term) this case.

[1] https://protos.com/uk-courts-still-dont-know-where-craig-wright-is/

anyone can make any claim about anything(**). its upto that person to then prove the claim to a reasonable effort to validate the claim for it to go to court and then more proof to win.. which by his own previous admissions shows he knows and has publicly proven BSV is not the original but a grandchild of the original
if he truly thought his BSV was the original he would have just stayed in his little bubble universe doing stuff to his protocol. by trying to sway core devs into changing BTC 'coz satoshi said so'(pre not satoshi verdict) he is admitting that btc is the real bitcoin that he wanted to take control of, so his own actions against BTC previously is proof that even he knows BTC is bitcoin and his BSV is the useless alt

as for does he have a right to make a claim. well he shouldnt but in life, you dont need to own or be part of bank of england to make a claim that someone else is passing off bank notes as counterfeit

all CSW wants to do now is SLAPP lawsuits (frivolous claims) where it just costs him the application claim fee, and then draw out the time limits whilst it costs others money to seek out solicitors(lawyers). he doesnt care win or lose, its just drama to him

also because he is not satoshi(now proven in law) he cant make such large value claim as thats not his personal damages. this claim should just be thrown out at the beginning. and no COPA should not counter claim as thats allowing this claim to stay open. instead they should separately file a fresh claim once this one is thrown out/dismissed

other things to understand:
the copa group never made gains/revenue/profits of £48k*19m coin. they dont have access to that coin so the value amount is even a falsehood that would go against CSW.. its more proof of CSW just doing frivolous claims now

**even more stupidly for CSW is new law came out this year(feb) that introduces new anti-slapp legislation. which COPA can use when they make a claim against CSW after getting this case dismissed/thrown out

In fact, he is allowed to file any lawsuit against anyone, as long as he can afford the lawyers.
He will most likely be counter-sued for his claims.

CSW has a very clear mission on his mind.
The whole point of this unethical attack against open-source developers is to suffocate them mentally.
How? Making them pay for legal support and also constantly distracting them from working on Bitcoin.
It's very painful for them, even if they have our full support, our positive energy and our significant financial contributions.

Bitcoin makes me emotional.
Do you know why?
Because it's the first time in my life, that I am seeing a true weapon against those who use their financial status in order to asphyxiate other people.
Bitcoin doesn't care if you are rich, or poor.
Bitcoin is the financιal weapon that we needed against injustice and thanks to Bitcoin, we stand strong and united!

He is out of his mind. Didn't the high court officially declared that Craig Wright is not a Satoshi? So, how does he have any right to file a lawsuit against anything related to Bitcoin?
He isn't the creator of Bitcoin, Bitcoin is not his product, Bitcoin was created first before BSV, which itself is a hardfork of Bitcoin's hardfork called BCH. Even after hardforks, Bitcoin managed to be the longest chain.
He says that Bitcoin deviates from its original principles but even if we say that it's true, is it really his job? He isn't the author of Bitcoin Whitepaper, he has no right to complain about that.

of course, it remains questionable whether a trial will actually take place. Craig Wright's latest lawsuit appears to be yet another desperate attempt to make a financial profit from the controversy surrounding Bitcoin (which he himself created). after a series of lost lawsuits, the mounting legal fees may also be getting on top of CSW's head...

yet there is literal proof that CSW admits the birth of BSV occurred in 2018 as its own deviation from BCH which is an alteration in of itself from a deviation in 2017 which is different to btc2009-2016 ruleset/protocol

also bitcoins blockchain principle is to follow the chain with the most work. and looking at the difficulty levels of BCH from 2017-18 bch didnt win claim over mostwork and BSV in 2018+ definitely has not

also bsv is not following the same protocol rules as BTC2009-2016 so even BSV cant claim that its the same as its ancestor

analogy:
even if your grandpa is not as you imagine, different than you remember him. you cant claim that he is not your grandpa where instead you claim are your own grandpa, it doesnt work like that.

Oh my god this guy... How aren't people free to chose what they mine? What kind of ego he needs to have when his "superior" code wasn't chosen by public, then only reason for that must be that the public is just mislead and dumb.

I don't claim that i understand more them him about bitcoin, but when brightest and respected devs in whole crypto industry all say that he is a fraud and a charlatan, i tend to listen to them.

And how does he think that suing someone is lining with principles of bitcoin and spirit of Satoshi?

Ballsy guy reminds me of Trump gaslights like mad and never surrenders.

on october 10, 2024, 'faketoshi', as CSW is often referred to, filed another lawsuit against BTC core, Square Up europe ltd and the Bitcoin developers, claiming that the Bitcoin core protocol is being misrepresented as 'Bitcoin'.
Craig Wright claims that BTC deviates from the original principles of the Bitcoin whitepaper through segwit and taproot and is therefore no longer considered 'real Bitcoin'. According to CSW, this leads to a massive misleading of the market, whereby he considers the altcoin 'Bitcoin SV' (BSV), which he supports, to be the only true Bitcoin protocol...

https://coingape.com/craig-wright-takes-on-bitcoin-core-developers-again/
https://protos.com/craig-wright-files-lawsuit-against-btc-core-and-square-without-barrister/

saw an article popped up on my news feed about this earlier and am glad to see it and I can't wait for Craig Wright to drop the case in the UK he filed against Hodlonaut.

looks like Craig Wright's schemes are crumbling after the court favored against him in the COPA case.

I was late for ADA. I don't care you can have your jam.

Problem about discipline is it's uninformed.

We are lucky to belong in a community like this.
We can do impeccable things... together!
Congrats to hodlonaut and thanks cygan for the update.

lets not make the label of CSW 'the man who claims to be'
the copa case already has the judge saying he is not
so use "CSW the fraudster"

and it seems due to the COPA case, CSW's main sponsor(ayres) funding his legal SLAPP suits has stepped/moved away from funding further suits, so now csw is financially bleeding, and with CSW's personal funds frozen, cant keep juggling all the lawyers bills, so we should see a domino effect of cases being dropped where CSW is the instigator/claimant

I just try to point out the probability. If you are me.

Edit: Spellchecker on guys. See if your 100%

Yep. Good news!
Still, Hodlonaut is also sued in UK by CSW. That case too should (hopefully soon) closed/dismissed.

Plus, I think that there are still Bitcoin devs whose cases need to be closed.


All in all, it's steps in (finally!) the right direction, but it's not all over yet.

CSW, the man who claims to be Bitcoin inventor Satoshi Nakamoto, has dropped his appeal in the norwegian court case against Hodlonaut. this means that the verdict, which already went in Hodlonaut's favor in october 2022, is now sealed. the norwegian, who is supported by the Bitcoin community, made this public with this message on twitter:


https://twitter.com/hodlonaut/status/1778457284806353177