Topic: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites - page 13. (Read 4866 times)

My words don`t mean that i don`t want to help anybody. I don`t want to help someone, who fails his life himself. There are lots of people with problems with health who need help and i prefer to help these people than any kind of addict. It is more fair as for me. Gambling addicts destroy their life themselves. They need to change their mind, make something with their brains and after it it is possible to help them. But even in this situation a don`t sure that i`ll choose the addict.

The personal provision you mentioned to exclude ourselves from gambling is a very good one but I must tell you that it is not so easy. Many have tried one way or another but still, they are still addicted to gambling. This is why we should not let ourselves be affected from the beginning, and had it been that the gambling addicts known and have been cautious enough from the start, they would not find themselves in the mess they are. It starts by having the needed mindset that gambling is not the place where you get to be rich so easily, and even if you will eventually be rich through it, it will be the function of efforts/good work, smartness, luck and fate with it, and not of a must-win the way people are taking it. With this knowledge, I know that those who are playing with the mind of making money with gambling could have cautioned themselves and would have rather been more professional towards it with a neutral mindset than being desperate, thinking it is the avenue that will earn them the best.

But as it is, I believe that anyone who is a victim of gambling addiction still has hope, but they need to help themselves first. How do they help themselves? They need that Willpower, and without it, they will have much delay in actualising this. But if there is Willpower or the gambler could find external help to help himself, it would be better. But trying some exclusion means, well, it can only work if the gambler is undergoing the therapy I mentioned initially (self and/or external). Those are the two that will actually help the gambler. If not, the gambler will continue to go back to gambling and override or outsmart all the exclusion features or programs possible. This is a psychological thing, retruction will only help a little, it is only when the gambler heals psychologically that things will be fine with him.

At some point in time, we need to put some things in place that can help us to make a better-informed decision and even if the casino, makes provision for self-exclusion which is what most people look out for is what makes them to stay off the casino anytime they feel that they have spent alot on the casino.
Sometimes, gamblers want to, self-exclude themselves self from casinos to save themselves from some issues that could affect their financial balance.

I am not sure many sites use the self-exclude and those who do it, it may not be to full effect since you can lie your way in if you are really determined to do so. I guess self-exclusion in an absolute sense is just not really possible nowadays for most regions of the world. VPNs are difficult to detect, papers can be forged and banks may not be cooperative.

Getting banned would really be just because of these possible reasons.

1. Multi-account
2. Abuse bonuses
3. VPN
4. Intentional self exclude feature

So if you are someone whose really that have the plans on stopping gambling with those kind of self exclusion thing then its not something that could be seen
or available for most platforms but somewhat you could really be able to request it out if possible.The main issue on here is the addiction deep inside you
on which there's no way that you could really be able to get rid with it because we know that no matter how you do avoid but still that addiction
is still there then these kind of acts are useless.

they cant allow them to continue because there's always a penalty for any violation in gambling, we cannot continue doing the wrong thing and expect them to overlook, the way most of these gamblers begin to have issues with them is when they are not ready to learn and know more about the gambling platform even right before they started to use them as their desired choice, so many cant afford to read their terms and conditions and yet they complain of having ban.

Well, I say something, we are people who sometimes need many things, among them sometimes we just need to say a word or something so that it can make a difference, it is not necessary that it has to be something so that it is promoted and you are all alone eprosanq problems are addicts, but sometimes you can help because you have to do it, there is no better thing you can do than help others, I invite anyone to give a friendly hand to help someone in what they need. Whatever they need, so you can see what it feels like, it's not bad, it's something exceptional, it's something that needs to be done, I've always said that, and sometimes, as I said before, with just one word, a piece of advice, or something like that. One can help a person a lot, sometimes all that is needed is that.

In a thread I had said that I need a lot of money , Because where I had it I would love to help people like that, who have the most addiction problems , because it means Saving lives, and for me it is very good, in fact I am not a doctor because I didn't like it. the career, but in truth I would have studied that if engineering did not exist, in addition to helping people very much.

I know there are people who have their own Problems , their Own things, that is understandable, we are in this world to solve and try to Improve our live s, but we also have to give us a little love, and love for others, the problem of addiction It's very big, Imagine just no one helping anyone, how could we survive =? If nothing, does anyone like to help ? I hope they always protect themselves from falling into addiction, because sometimes that is when we Value people Who care About Others even though they have a lot of Homework to do , and that is a Blessing to Be like that , because despite everything they will not be able to Having wealth , but there is Always life , there is a great desire to do things, health, I think that is very important.

I believe that we should not think of ourselves alone but of others as well, it might be hard at times, but we can still try. You do not have to wait till anyone calls your help before you render it, if you do wait until then, then you might be selfish depending on the situation and circumstances surrounding it, it is not all the people you see who are normal, only that the level of the abnormality varies, that is why you think that some people are their real self, that is not so. What I am trying to say is not that you should poke your nose into people's affairs, they must have displayed some attitude and irresponsible behaviour before you wade in your own advice/help.

It might be on that day alone, you will just say your own, do your own guiding as much as you can and leave the rest. But if it is the person you know very well, maybe your friend or relative, I believe you have to do better than that. The only time that one can be discouraged in this regard is when the person is becoming too resistant, violent or insulting/annoying. But giving it a try is never a bad thing, and it is not necessary you form an NGO or work with any social service before you perform some humane function, it is all about concern and a strive for a sane society. That is how I view it though, we all have our difficult attitudes and feelings about the things of life.

Lol... I couldn't agree at all with this. Gambling addiction is never good for any society. So it is unwise to give privilege to someone to do something bad and wait for when he falls in danger and he ask for help.

When there are 10 gambling addicts in a society, they will must influence 10 other healthy individuals. The right thing to do is to talk to a gambling addict whenever you see him or her, about the downsides of addiction. He needs to understand about responsible gambling. If the person goes to the worst stage and asks for help, then it is not a kind of help, by then it may be too late.

As much as I agree with you bud, the fact still remains that, helping someone who did not ask to be helped, some times or most times doesn't always end well for the person who is helping, this is why for me, I think it's best to look the other way when we see a chronic gambling addict, allow him or her to wallow in that hole he or she dug for him or herself, let them wallow there until they are tired, and when finally, they are tired and calls for help, I believe that will be the best time to step in and help such a person, because by now, the addict will completely understand what you are doing for him or her and appreciate you as supposed.

But when you try to help someone who did not ask for it, they sometimes see you as a disturbance to them, they may even start keeping malice and avoiding you, seeing you as a poke noser who doesn't mind his or her business.

I don`t ready for it. I can spend some time telling them that they are wrong, they are doing bad things, destroying their lives, but they willn`t hear me. They know it themselves, they brake their lives but don`t want to do something to change it. It is much easier to cry that they have an awful situation.
I don`t want to spend my life helping to somebody, who don`t cares about himself.

All depends on someones self control on which we know that this is something that would really be just that enough for you to completely stop even on mid-way on the time that you are playing.

It is really just that only a few could really be able to do such thing and the rest are really just that too impulsive and this is why they do really fail on stopping on the time that they've
seen that they are already that making themselves that wrecking or messing up their lives on which they should have done it earlier if we do speak about
stopping to avoid such spending.

When it comes to exclusion then you wont really be needing up these things if you are really just that mindful with your actions
then your mind would really be just that enough to tell you on what you should gonna basing up on the instincts in between
good and bad.

You should care about them bro, you should be your brother's keeper. Even if they didn't tell you, you can still ship in your advice and let them know if they are doing it excessively. It is not hurting to put anyone through, this is also applicable to those who are so difficult. You should only do your bit and leave the rest, and by that, you would have satisfied your conscience in this regard. Gambling is so addictive and if someone is such that is in dire need of money but is not finding it easy elsewhere, gambling is often their next way of trying, but in most cases, it always goes sore for them.

That is why I often preach that no one should be gambling for the whole mindset of money-making, it will never be productive in this case. This is also one way that causes addiction and irresponsible gambling, but if you can try to ship in your advice that will make them shift their focus towards this, I know their mindset will change and will be for the common good of the person and the society at large.

well some site might have been doing this or maybe all?
exactly , they are business and every deposit is important to their business so why not have it while pretend that there is no problem.


i am not here to be fooled actually ,because I am not turning into addicted forever lol.

As for me - the habit is something what you like to do and it doesn`t hurts people around you. The addiction is something what you like to do, that hurts people around you and yourself and you understand it but don`t stop.
And it doesn`t  matter what addiction it is. And i`m sure that all addictions is in your brain, except drugs probably. When i stopped smoking - i didn`t feel any negative changes in my feeling, i just changed my mind about it.

If you relate it to physiological things, it actually not wrong because gambling addiction becomes like habit which makes person do it more often and regularly, but on the other hand, this would be more objective when calling it related to thoughts or feeling of wanting to continue doing the same thing in life in gambling.
And it is clear that gambling can never be equated with other things such as addiction to alcohol, drugs or smoking because those who are addicted to gambling will only have desires in the brain that lead us to do it.
Gambling addiction is not an attitude that can really be linked to several things, but it really affects person psychology, just look at how they are gambling addicts and drug addicts and others, the difference will definitely be more visible.
But on the other hand, it will be much more difficult for gambling addicts to solve their problems, so far every country will have rehabilitation facilities but not for gambling addicts and they only have problems with their thoughts, desires and beliefs.

Of course, if the player himself does not understand that his addiction to gambling has ceased to be just a hobby and a fun pastime, but has turned into a gaming addiction at the stage of illness, then it becomes quite difficult to help such a player. 
First, we need to make sure that he himself realizes that addiction to gambling and specifically that for him it is already a disease that still needs to be treated in order to preserve a normal life.  And not only to himself, but also to other members of his family.  And that responsibility should be shown to other family members. 
It seems to me that this is exactly the most difficult thing in the very process of fighting such an addiction. 
If a player fully understands his disease - gambling addiction, then it becomes much easier to recover.

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As for gambling addicts, you can't help them unless they wanted to be saved, many knew that they are addicted but they can't stop themselves, they don't know how to fight the addiction, I don't care about them because they won't care about me either on the long run, you will just waste your time, I will only help someone that needed a helping hand, they must be willing to fight the addiction too.  

Not all problems can be solved, not all addiction can be beaten, it depends entirely on the affected person, how determined they are is what will make them break free from the chains of addiction, you can't just say you want to beat addiction, you need actions and steps to take.

Do the site is honest about their promise of self exclusion or this is just a marketing strategy because like a store owner ,
why do you let your customer be banned in your store when you can just let them Buy and buy whatever they wanted?
same principle in gambling addiction , those addict will do anything just to gamble and even if they locked their account for
sure they will look for another way and site to gamble so why not let them continue their gambling?

To be honest, i don`t cares about addicts and don`t sure that i must care about gambling addicts. The only situation when i can spend some resources for addicts - is when i see that they ready to change their life. There are lots of people who need help and i prefer to help somebody, who need it but i don`t want to help any kind of addict who made his life awful by himself.