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hero member
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It sounds funny but it is really the way to self-exclude yourself.
Of course it don`t help, if someone wants to continue gambling - there are lots of casinos, where anybody can register(possible with some restrictions) with the same games, but if someone decides to stop - it can motivate at least.

PS. I don`t recommend anybody to but or sell accounts, it is only your decision.

I find it the same way, self-exclude doesn't help at all, it's just a decoration of a casino but it still depend on the will of the gamblers. It's true, we can self exclude ourselves in a certain casino but since create an account is very easy, we can always try playing in other casinos. I think the solution of addiction is stopping gambling, not fooling around ourselves that would only result to bigger problems. However, I don't blame the casino for having that kind of feature, becasue it's better than nothing at all, although it's not really too helpful.
It is only your decision to use such opportunity or not. It is just the tool. And of course it is good that there is such opportunity, even if i don`t believe in it. May be it can help someone.
But the way to sell account or delete it looks more serious - you need to find new casino. It is not a problem of course, but it may be uncomfortable.
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You can watch this video from 07:20 if you want to skip on the other parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxty2XhTwVI

Basically it's very simple.

You take a currency that requires 21 days for staking/unstaking, then you deposit this amount in Atomic Wallet, stake it and then you can't gamble with the crypto you're holding.

The locking (staking) is done with one single click of a button, and it's practically speaking, equivalent to activation of self-exclusion on an online gambling site with a click of a button (and yet not all sites offer it unfortunately).

For example, you stake (lock) $200 of your crypto, and that's all crypto available for you - then you can't play/gamble/risk it for at least 21 days ... do it 15 times a year time after time, and you would be excluded for a long time.

The only drawback with this method is Atomic doesn't offer this on USDT so some "gamblers" might not like this idea because they trust stablecoins more than other crypto coins, but this is FYI.

I see this working and all that shit but I have two concerns regarding this shit.

First off, why in the hell would you do this? To stop yourself from gambling? Dude, if the only thing that's keeping you from gambling is the lack of access to your funds then you probably need more than just this atomix wallet feature to rid yourself of your brewing addiction to gambling, you might wanna look into more radical yet effective options, like idk, admitting yourself to a rehabilitation center, cause honestly, if you're already addicted nothing's gonna stop you from gaining access to your money. Have you heard of a crackhead who doesn't smoke crack on days that he doesn't have money? He hustles for it, he makes sure he gets his fix no matter what. The same thing can be said for gambling addicts, you can put out the most elaborate cheese maze known to man to take their money away from them but they'll tear down the walls if it means they can gamble for a day.

Another would be, what makes this different than other staking mechanisms in the market, suppose to say I don't want to do this and I instead opted for Binance's staking, am I gonna be doing something wrong? Or if I put out my money on a stake pool that has more than just 21 hours of lockin period. Is it gonna be bad? Why not just put your money in there for a whole year instead of doing this rinse and repeat typa shit for 15 times?
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I agre, it's a nice feature but actually doesn't help to addicted gambler.
It's all in the head and strong will, in fact that someone is willing to admit a problem and not trying to foul yourself. That maybe might help to more selfi disciplined gamblers.
You wont really be needing any feature or whatever exclusions that a site must have, just like you have said that everything would really be basing or depending on the control you do have or self discipline
because if you do fail on doing so, no matter how many exclusions or features available there's no way that you could really be able to make yourself that completely stop on doing gambling. You would really be having that kind of problem on the time that you cant really be able to control yourself. Exclusions could neither be available or would really be that something that you could really be able to request on.

This is why if you do find yourself that being impulsive then it would really be better that you should really be that careful or totally completely stopping gambling for a while.
Dont make yourself that playing on constant manner. You cant really that make yourself be able to stop not until that you do bust it all.

True, it won't really be able to fully help gamblers to avoid the possibility of addiction or unsolicited actions because as you said above it all comes back to the gambler themselves which means that if for example they are one of those gamblers who are obsessed with gambling or those who gamble in the wrong way then they still won't take advantage of the exclusion feature because they will consider that the feature is not in accordance with their wishes which they only want to continue using their time to gamble.

I think the scenario may be similar to addicted gamblers where they are immune to suggestions and criticism, they will not listen to them and will continue to ignore something that does not suit them, so even though for example the purpose of the feature is to minimize gamblers from entering the addiction phase, but still in the end all decisions are in their hands which will make them free in terms of making a choice even though the choice will only lead them to a bad situation. So actually the key to not ending up addicted is always in themselves, in the sense that if for example they can maintain their gambling involvement properly such as always prioritizing limits and self-control then without such features they will definitely do many things to prevent themselves from falling into addiction.
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if somebody wants to selfexclude from Fairlay, i could buy their old account from them (its anonymous anyways, only email and password, which can be changed).

WIN - WIN
It sounds funny but it is really the way to self-exclude yourself.
Of course it don`t help, if someone wants to continue gambling - there are lots of casinos, where anybody can register(possible with some restrictions) with the same games, but if someone decides to stop - it can motivate at least.

PS. I don`t recommend anybody to but or sell accounts, it is only your decision.

I find it the same way, self-exclude doesn't help at all, it's just a decoration of a casino but it still depend on the will of the gamblers. It's true, we can self exclude ourselves in a certain casino but since create an account is very easy, we can always try playing in other casinos. I think the solution of addiction is stopping gambling, not fooling around ourselves that would only result to bigger problems. However, I don't blame the casino for having that kind of feature, becasue it's better than nothing at all, although it's not really too helpful.

I agre, it's a nice feature but actually doesn't help to addicted gambler.
It's all in the head and strong will, in fact that someone is willing to admit a problem and not trying to foul yourself. That maybe might help to more selfi disciplined gamblers.
You wont really be needing any feature or whatever exclusions that a site must have, just like you have said that everything would really be basing or depending on the control you do have or self discipline
because if you do fail on doing so, no matter how many exclusions or features available there's no way that you could really be able to make yourself that completely stop on doing gambling. You would really be having that kind of problem on the time that you cant really be able to control yourself. Exclusions could neither be available or would really be that something that you could really be able to request on.

This is why if you do find yourself that being impulsive then it would really be better that you should really be that careful or totally completely stopping gambling for a while.
Dont make yourself that playing on constant manner. You cant really that make yourself be able to stop not until that you do bust it all.
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if somebody wants to selfexclude from Fairlay, i could buy their old account from them (its anonymous anyways, only email and password, which can be changed).

WIN - WIN
It sounds funny but it is really the way to self-exclude yourself.
Of course it don`t help, if someone wants to continue gambling - there are lots of casinos, where anybody can register(possible with some restrictions) with the same games, but if someone decides to stop - it can motivate at least.

PS. I don`t recommend anybody to but or sell accounts, it is only your decision.

I find it the same way, self-exclude doesn't help at all, it's just a decoration of a casino but it still depend on the will of the gamblers. It's true, we can self exclude ourselves in a certain casino but since create an account is very easy, we can always try playing in other casinos. I think the solution of addiction is stopping gambling, not fooling around ourselves that would only result to bigger problems. However, I don't blame the casino for having that kind of feature, becasue it's better than nothing at all, although it's not really too helpful.

I agre, it's a nice feature but actually doesn't help to addicted gambler.
It's all in the head and strong will, in fact that someone is willing to admit a problem and not trying to foul yourself. That maybe might help to more selfi disciplined gamblers.
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Absolutely mate in the world of gambling it's our choices if we gonna try and enter the world of gambling or we keept watching . In the end, those people who are made Their choice that they will enter into the world of gambling then they are also choosing thier path into addiction, maybe not all but some of the gamblers nowadys can't control their emotions and They don't have discipline  and that's the reason why they fall into addiction and once it is happen then a lot of circumstances ik Life that they must face.
because this is the reason of Online gambling that many become more addicted nowadays than just going to offline casino , Online casino is easily be accessed and gamblers can play as much as they can without a need to show others of their gambling activities .

If we talk about the comparison of online and physical casinos, then yes, recently the online type of gambling is much more popular and the number of gambling population is increasing as time goes by and of course the reason is that you have also said above that the online type of gambling has certain advantages. where these advantages are indeed something that gamblers need, such as the ease you said in terms of accessing gambling where all gamblers are free to play or gamble whenever and wherever they want if they have the money, while when you are in a physical casino then maybe You only have time to gamble when the casino shop is open or simply when the casino shop is closed then you won't be able to gamble and may have to wait until the casino shop opens again.

This means that in terms of convenience, it is clear that online casinos are much easier to access and reach as long as you have a smartphone or laptop and money as an intermediary tool for gambling, and with this convenience, most gamblers feel free to gamble because there is absolutely nothing limits for gambling in online casinos, therefore this is one of the reasons why the level of addicted gamblers is increasing and this is also the reason why we must really have management or management and planning that leads to many good limits when we are involved in this type of online gambling because only you can control everything, but unfortunately most of the gamblers involved there cannot control their gambling activities and instead they are controlled by gambling so it is only natural that in the end they experience many bad impacts.
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if somebody wants to selfexclude from Fairlay, i could buy their old account from them (its anonymous anyways, only email and password, which can be changed).

WIN - WIN
Unfortunately, you are only looking for the account to buy and not helping anyone at all. And the fact that you bought the account doesn't stop the psychological addiction of the gambler which is the context here, so your suggestion is not even good, but selfish. No one will sell the Fairlay account and will not have access to many other gambling sites and even use the proceeds of the money from you to gamble. What has that changed if you would be fair about this?

Needless to say, Fiarlay is not even that serious gambling site but more of a predictive site, except for the added sports kind of betting exchange.
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if somebody wants to selfexclude from Fairlay, i could buy their old account from them (its anonymous anyways, only email and password, which can be changed).

WIN - WIN
It sounds funny but it is really the way to self-exclude yourself.
Of course it don`t help, if someone wants to continue gambling - there are lots of casinos, where anybody can register(possible with some restrictions) with the same games, but if someone decides to stop - it can motivate at least.

PS. I don`t recommend anybody to but or sell accounts, it is only your decision.

I find it the same way, self-exclude doesn't help at all, it's just a decoration of a casino but it still depend on the will of the gamblers. It's true, we can self exclude ourselves in a certain casino but since create an account is very easy, we can always try playing in other casinos. I think the solution of addiction is stopping gambling, not fooling around ourselves that would only result to bigger problems. However, I don't blame the casino for having that kind of feature, becasue it's better than nothing at all, although it's not really too helpful.
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I personally don't see staying away from gambling as something that requires too much help efforts or advice as long as the individual involved make up their mind to gamble within the set rules and limits, this is very important because everything starts and ends with the gamblers not the casino or anyone else.

That's true, everyone makes their decision individually of becoming a gambler and choose their desiring platform for that, in which in all of these process, no one enforces any decision making process on a gambler, so they are expected to also make an effective use of the gambling avenue for their own good as well as considering gambling in the normal and appropriate manner that suite their standard without complaining.
being in gambling is a personal choice either being lured by others or on their own the thing is none is forcing one to gamble but it is a free choice so in all cases gambling cannot be blamed but themselves .
I myself once become an active gambler and almost become addicted but I manage to get out of that and now a healthy living and with small attitude of gambling.


Anyone who is looking for another way to play and be happy because they are free to do so , what should always be done is to find a way not to become Decapitated or fall into Addiction because that does become a major problem for the player and his family.
agree, we can enjoy and do anything but never drag yourself into addiction .
Absolutely mate in the world of gambling it's our choices if we gonna try and enter the world of gambling or we keept watching . In the end, those people who are made Their choice that they will enter into the world of gambling then they are also choosing thier path into addiction, maybe not all but some of the gamblers nowadys can't control their emotions and They don't have discipline  and that's the reason why they fall into addiction and once it is happen then a lot of circumstances ik Life that they must face.
because this is the reason of Online gambling that many become more addicted nowadays than just going to offline casino , Online casino is easily be accessed and gamblers can play as much as they can without a need to show others of their gambling activities .
hero member
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if somebody wants to selfexclude from Fairlay, i could buy their old account from them (its anonymous anyways, only email and password, which can be changed).

WIN - WIN
It sounds funny but it is really the way to self-exclude yourself.
Of course it don`t help, if someone wants to continue gambling - there are lots of casinos, where anybody can register(possible with some restrictions) with the same games, but if someone decides to stop - it can motivate at least.

PS. I don`t recommend anybody to but or sell accounts, it is only your decision.
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if somebody wants to selfexclude from Fairlay, i could buy their old account from them (its anonymous anyways, only email and password, which can be changed).

WIN - WIN
Am still wondering why there is a need to buy an account when you can just create your own ? is it the status of the account that you are after? because I also believe that new account has bigger possibilities of winning from that beginners luck,.
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Self exclusion needs self control as well because what is the sense of you excluding yourself today but tomorrow you will just create an new account in other site that you can enjoy playing again.
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It's almost very difficult to advise an addicted gambler, especially those individuals who live such a carefree lifestyle because to them, everything they're doing is perfectly okay and they don't care what the next person thinks or feels and the fact that they've made gambling their passion makes it more difficult to quit, those are the type of individual that would take loans to go into gambling or even sale valuable properties.
You are right on that point, because basically they will say that the game is the Right one and What they are doing is with their own money , and they have the right to spend their money as they see fit, regardless of the fact that they are also doing themselves great harm, That's why when we focus on doing things better we can do things by Minimizing these gaming habits, I think a player should play 1 or twice a week, but I have seen testimonies where people play every day of the week and that It seems like an exaggeration to me, so when we look for Something to improve we have to comply with our own rules and I think the best rule is not about spending so much money and controlling ourselves, but as an addicted player, I think the best way to help them is not with advice, but Occupying them with other activities.

The primary thing that we do have in mind is on the time that we would really be having that kind of mindset and beliefs that we can do all we want since its our money that we are using. Its none others business on how we would really be gonna using it up because it would really be just that a common approach on which you would really be thinking up that you could really be a winner in gambling.
Self exclusions is something pointless or useless if you are that an individual whose really that having that kind of positive views towards gambling and believing that you could really make money into it.
Exclusions are useless just because you do believe that you could really take up that kind of advantage but on the time that you are already getting addicted then this is where you would really be trying out to find up on the time that you do struggle on quitting or stopping gambling. You wouldnt really be able to see its importance until its not there.
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It's almost very difficult to advise an addicted gambler, especially those individuals who live such a carefree lifestyle because to them, everything they're doing is perfectly okay and they don't care what the next person thinks or feels and the fact that they've made gambling their passion makes it more difficult to quit, those are the type of individual that would take loans to go into gambling or even sale valuable properties.
You are right on that point, because basically they will say that the game is the Right one and What they are doing is with their own money , and they have the right to spend their money as they see fit, regardless of the fact that they are also doing themselves great harm, That's why when we focus on doing things better we can do things by Minimizing these gaming habits, I think a player should play 1 or twice a week, but I have seen testimonies where people play every day of the week and that It seems like an exaggeration to me, so when we look for Something to improve we have to comply with our own rules and I think the best rule is not about spending so much money and controlling ourselves, but as an addicted player, I think the best way to help them is not with advice, but Occupying them with other activities.
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There are quite a lot of people who are completely unable to do what is called “think ahead.” 
Such people often live one day at a time and do not think at all about what will happen to them or their families or their children tomorrow, in a week or in a month.  It is precisely from such people that real gambling addicts at the stage of the disease can most likely emerge, and this process of very active participation in gambling for such people can generally end tragically for the player and for his family.   
I think that the overwhelming number of players are precisely these types of people.  And for them, gambling is practically safe and enjoyable.
Some individuals ĺive a very carefree lifestyle, they don't even care about the effect of their lifestyle on others, so far the satisfy their desire. And if the person is a very addicted gambler most times it's very difficult for them to listen to advise. And that why it's been advised on a regular that people should minimise their gambling habits so as not to get addicted because active participation in gambling equals more trouble.

 It's almost very difficult to advise an addicted gambler, especially those individuals who live such a carefree lifestyle because to them, everything they're doing is perfectly okay and they don't care what the next person thinks or feels and the fact that they've made gambling their passion makes it more difficult to quit, those are the type of individual that would take loans to go into gambling or even sale valuable properties.
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Gambling is there available for us to enjoy, but we are the ones that give the wrong approach to how we can use it

It's true, so actually the mistake or impact is made or shaped by the gamblers themselves who are wrong in treating their gambling activities, because on the other hand there are still quite a lot of gamblers who are still in a safe circle and do not experience the bad effects of gambling, it's because they treat gambling in the right way and mindset so that in the end they don't experience bad effects because they are able to balance it by having the right approach.

Just how fast you can make good habits, that's also the same speed you can integrate bad habits and practices in gambling. Using your family fund for your gambling may slide for the first time, but if that repeats for the second time or third time then it will be a bad practice already. Never gamble the money you are not willing to lose. That's just one of the many things that you may consider in gambling.

Many said it's about discipline but it's not all it is. It's about the intention of the gambler what are his beliefs that contradicts on the right way of gambling. Those can be corrected yet they need a lot of work for themselves.

Yes, risking money that is basically for other purposes or interests in your life is a very careless or even stupid decision, such as a family budget as you said which is clear that this action can cause quite fatal problems which most likely in the end your family will experience financial balance problems, or even worse, maybe your family relationship will be destroyed if this action is not stopped immediately, because there are enough cases that we can make as examples and lessons.

Basically, discipline or having the ability to manage and control will only be able to be done by gamblers who really understand the dangers and adverse effects that gambling can cause, because clearly suggesting these things to gamblers who have the intention and purpose to produce it is like nonsense, they will not listen to it because what we suggest is contrary to their wishes, they want to continue gambling based on beliefs and dreams that are actually nothing more than illusions, therefore this can also be the reason why gambling addiction is difficult to overcome.
There are quite a lot of people who are completely unable to do what is called “think ahead.” 
Such people often live one day at a time and do not think at all about what will happen to them or their families or their children tomorrow, in a week or in a month.  It is precisely from such people that real gambling addicts at the stage of the disease can most likely emerge, and this process of very active participation in gambling for such people can generally end tragically for the player and for his family.  But I think that most gamblers still have some idea about planning their finances and can decide on the question of how much money they can afford to lose. 
Moreover, with the expectation of several days in advance or even, for example, a month in advance.  Of course, this is much more correct behavior of a person who is really and strongly passionate about his participation in gambling. 
I think that the overwhelming number of players are precisely these types of people.  And for them, gambling is practically safe and enjoyable.
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Gambling is there available for us to enjoy, but we are the ones that give the wrong approach to how we can use it

It's true, so actually the mistake or impact is made or shaped by the gamblers themselves who are wrong in treating their gambling activities, because on the other hand there are still quite a lot of gamblers who are still in a safe circle and do not experience the bad effects of gambling, it's because they treat gambling in the right way and mindset so that in the end they don't experience bad effects because they are able to balance it by having the right approach.

Just how fast you can make good habits, that's also the same speed you can integrate bad habits and practices in gambling. Using your family fund for your gambling may slide for the first time, but if that repeats for the second time or third time then it will be a bad practice already. Never gamble the money you are not willing to lose. That's just one of the many things that you may consider in gambling.

Many said it's about discipline but it's not all it is. It's about the intention of the gambler what are his beliefs that contradicts on the right way of gambling. Those can be corrected yet they need a lot of work for themselves.

Yes, risking money that is basically for other purposes or interests in your life is a very careless or even stupid decision, such as a family budget as you said which is clear that this action can cause quite fatal problems which most likely in the end your family will experience financial balance problems, or even worse, maybe your family relationship will be destroyed if this action is not stopped immediately, because there are enough cases that we can make as examples and lessons.

Basically, discipline or having the ability to manage and control will only be able to be done by gamblers who really understand the dangers and adverse effects that gambling can cause, because clearly suggesting these things to gamblers who have the intention and purpose to produce it is like nonsense, they will not listen to it because what we suggest is contrary to their wishes, they want to continue gambling based on beliefs and dreams that are actually nothing more than illusions, therefore this can also be the reason why gambling addiction is difficult to overcome.
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I've seen that people who win with little wind and the truth is I don't know how they do it, they enter any game and it's as if luck were with them, sometimes I think it's something divine that helps them, For that reason, when we enter a caisnol we must enter without any problems.

Winning with gambling is sometimes unpredictable because we most often don't know we are going to win and at the end, we have it as a surprise by seeing the winning coming, if we plan to win and try every effort, we may not see such coming, while the least time we expect any winning is when we may happen to realize one, this alone tells us more about how we can be independent with our gambling, expecting to see the winning coming and if it does not we move on.

Well that's obvious, I'm sure that someone who understands the whole concept of gambling and how winnings work would say the same thing that gambling is an activity that can never be predicted to result in a win, or that means you never know when you're going to win. However overall winning is always dependent on luck which means that when you are lucky then you will also win by itself, and maybe I would say that does not mean that when you try everything that you think can bring victory then you will lose, not like that because however if only at that time luck comes then you will definitely win.
Or it could be a scenario like what you said above that when we don't expect to win at all but the victory comes by itself, the point is luck applies to any situation.
Many times I have get disappointed before because of the outcome of a bet I thought it will be a win for me, because I have the mentality that gambling is for profits and not fun, most of this times I bet along that line of thoughts that I am going to win certain amount or even go as far as making plans on how I am going to spend the winnings when it comes, this made me dissatisfied alot of times.

But ever since I found out how gambling works, and how unpredictable it is, I have become more at peace and I can gamble and be at peace with whatever the outcome may be.
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if somebody wants to selfexclude from Fairlay, i could buy their old account from them (its anonymous anyways, only email and password, which can be changed).

WIN - WIN
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You can watch this video from 07:20 if you want to skip on the other parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxty2XhTwVI

Basically it's very simple.

You take a currency that requires 21 days for staking/unstaking, then you deposit this amount in Atomic Wallet, stake it and then you can't gamble with the crypto you're holding.

The locking (staking) is done with one single click of a button, and it's practically speaking, equivalent to activation of self-exclusion on an online gambling site with a click of a button (and yet not all sites offer it unfortunately).

For example, you stake (lock) $200 of your crypto, and that's all crypto available for you - then you can't play/gamble/risk it for at least 21 days ... do it 15 times a year time after time, and you would be excluded for a long time.

The only drawback with this method is Atomic doesn't offer this on USDT so some "gamblers" might not like this idea because they trust stablecoins more than other crypto coins, but this is FYI.


Self-exclusion can be also implemented by requesting from an online casino a to exclude you from playing for a determined period of time.
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Gambling is there available for us to enjoy, but we are the ones that give the wrong approach to how we can use it

It's true, so actually the mistake or impact is made or shaped by the gamblers themselves who are wrong in treating their gambling activities, because on the other hand there are still quite a lot of gamblers who are still in a safe circle and do not experience the bad effects of gambling, it's because they treat gambling in the right way and mindset so that in the end they don't experience bad effects because they are able to balance it by having the right approach.

Just how fast you can make good habits, that's also the same speed you can integrate bad habits and practices in gambling. Using your family fund for your gambling may slide for the first time, but if that repeats for the second time or third time then it will be a bad practice already. Never gamble the money you are not willing to lose. That's just one of the many things that you may consider in gambling.

Many said it's about discipline but it's not all it is. It's about the intention of the gambler what are his beliefs that contradicts on the right way of gambling. Those can be corrected yet they need a lot of work for themselves.
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