How will this change the world of mining?? GTX 1080 / 1070 - page 27.

Tacalt

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Quote from: QuintLeo on June 12, 2016, 04:58:09 AM

Quote from: Amph on June 12, 2016, 01:36:02 AM

also how come nvidia can not be bios modded, i find this strange

Too new, folks need to figure out HOW to mod them - and if it's worthwhile to do so.

RX 480 should be interesting - too bad it didn't show up a couple months sooner, if it turns out to be a good Ethereum performer.

It makes no difference if it appeared early or not for us miners. The profit for us is the same or lower.

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Quote from: Amph on June 12, 2016, 01:36:02 AM

also how come nvidia can not be bios modded, i find this strange

Too new, folks need to figure out HOW to mod them - and if it's worthwhile to do so.

RX 480 should be interesting - too bad it didn't show up a couple months sooner, if it turns out to be a good Ethereum performer.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on June 11, 2016, 05:36:25 PM

Quote from: vaulter on June 11, 2016, 03:56:18 PM

Quote from: Amph on June 11, 2016, 03:07:49 PM

try to overclock please, something like +100/150 on both core and mem, i think you can get more, leave the power limit where it is

at +100 and +150 at 110w it is 28mhs
at 90w - 27mh

ill probably buy one to test temps 65 deg in my basement would be nice but i expect in a rack it would be much warmer
the intersting thing is a r10 480 might do 26mhs at 100 watt too and with bios mods which they dont seem to be for nvidia it could possibly be as low as 50 watts combined with the afterbuner undervolt could be insane

that is yet to be seen, might do, it's to much of a gamble for my taste, it can also be only 22-25MH

also how come nvidia can not be bios modded, i find this strange

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45 mhs lyrarev2 whit the new optimized ccminer?

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Quote from: pattanan on June 11, 2016, 06:57:12 PM

Quote from: vaulter on June 11, 2016, 02:57:56 PM

Quote from: reb0rn21 on June 11, 2016, 01:48:54 PM

Quote from: pattanan on June 11, 2016, 12:28:04 PM

Its windows 10 will do ubuntu tonight.....

Yes there is reported problem with NV and windows 10 with newer driver and ethereum, see genoil miner thread for updates, also there were talk modded driver is in work which can solve this problem...

What you see here is win 10 rs1 14361 build and unreleased driver - this should be ready for july win 10 update, power limit is set to 60% and eaqual to 90w power draw
Btw - lira2rev2 perf for 1070 is 30.5mhs

unreleased driver, pffh, this sucks man.

Hopefully you will be able to use windows insider preview 14361 and current driver to mine but I cant promise - if I get the info how to do this I will share
BTW for Lyra2REv2 - its 45.5mhs for 1080

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Quote from: vaulter on June 11, 2016, 02:57:56 PM

Quote from: reb0rn21 on June 11, 2016, 01:48:54 PM

Quote from: pattanan on June 11, 2016, 12:28:04 PM

Its windows 10 will do ubuntu tonight.....

Yes there is reported problem with NV and windows 10 with newer driver and ethereum, see genoil miner thread for updates, also there were talk modded driver is in work which can solve this problem...

What you see here is win 10 rs1 14361 build and unreleased driver - this should be ready for july win 10 update, power limit is set to 60% and eaqual to 90w power draw
Btw - lira2rev2 perf for 1070 is 30.5mhs

unreleased driver, pffh, this sucks man.

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Quote from: vaulter on June 11, 2016, 03:56:18 PM

Quote from: Amph on June 11, 2016, 03:07:49 PM

try to overclock please, something like +100/150 on both core and mem, i think you can get more, leave the power limit where it is

at +100 and +150 at 110w it is 28mhs
at 90w - 27mh

ill probably buy one to test temps 65 deg in my basement would be nice but i expect in a rack it would be much warmer
the intersting thing is a r10 480 might do 26mhs at 100 watt too and with bios mods which they dont seem to be for nvidia it could possibly be as low as 50 watts combined with the afterbuner undervolt could be insane

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@vaulter

I guess you can drop the fan speed a lot, 50C is pretty low, i bet for ~75C target fan would be almost silent?

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Quote from: Amph on June 11, 2016, 03:07:49 PM

try to overclock please, something like +100/150 on both core and mem, i think you can get more, leave the power limit where it is

at +100 and +150 at 110w it is 28mhs
at 90w - 27mh

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try to overclock please, something like +100/150 on both core and mem, i think you can get more, leave the power limit where it is

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Quote from: reb0rn21 on June 11, 2016, 01:48:54 PM

Quote from: pattanan on June 11, 2016, 12:28:04 PM

Its windows 10 will do ubuntu tonight.....

Yes there is reported problem with NV and windows 10 with newer driver and ethereum, see genoil miner thread for updates, also there were talk modded driver is in work which can solve this problem...

What you see here is win 10 rs1 14361 build and unreleased driver - this should be ready for july win 10 update, power limit is set to 60% and eaqual to 90w power draw
Btw - lira2rev2 perf for 1070 is 30.5mhs

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Quote from: pattanan on June 11, 2016, 12:28:04 PM

Its windows 10 will do ubuntu tonight.....

Yes there is reported problem with NV and windows 10 with newer driver and ethereum, see genoil miner thread for updates, also there were talk modded driver is in work which can solve this problem...

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Quote from: Asnatin on June 11, 2016, 08:15:15 AM

I noticed the new R9 390 price dropped about 20% in the last week. The shops are clearing stocks now.

About zero change on Amazon

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Its windows 10 will do ubuntu tonight.....

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Quote from: Subw on June 11, 2016, 11:29:58 AM

Quote from: pattanan on June 08, 2016, 03:48:46 PM

Has this with me for 3 days so far.

see the performance then.

vaulter were you BSing us with 27Mh? Comments?

you need to use linux, that appear to be windows 10

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Quote from: pattanan on June 08, 2016, 03:48:46 PM

Has this with me for 3 days so far.

see the performance then.

vaulter were you BSing us with 27Mh? Comments?

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any official hashing numbers on the 1080 are out yet ?? i see the the after market cooler cards are already swimming in markets

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I noticed the new R9 390 price dropped about 20% in the last week. The shops are clearing stocks now.

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Unless you buy the GPUs used at a very good price, you might be able to sell them at 100% purchase cost.

If you buy brand new, you will never get 100% of your money back unless there is hugh demand and huge shortages which won't happen after about a month or two.

Why would someone buy a used GPU at 100% the price from retail. They wouldn't.

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Quote from: Next BillG on June 11, 2016, 04:54:37 AM

Quote from: Amph on June 11, 2016, 02:13:43 AM

Quote from: greaterninja on June 11, 2016, 01:40:36 AM

Quote from: Amph on June 11, 2016, 12:48:55 AM

Quote from: greaterninja on June 10, 2016, 05:41:20 PM

To date, I think pattanan is the only person who has posted decent evidence to support 1070 hash rates.

vaulter says 27mh/s on 1070 but does not post logs, specs, miner settings, etc. The only thing he posted was a rig of 1080s and a screenshot of something unconfirmed.
His documentation skills have been quite poor.

Not to mention there is reported hashrates of similar or the same GPU hardware with significantly different hashrates.

I'll take this information given as a grain of salt.

In either case, the 1070 is going for $450 and up as of 6.10.16.
Even if it mined 27 mh/s, it would not be profitable @ current eth rate of $14/ether for at least 4.5 months.

At $350 or $450 per card, the 1070 just does not seem to be a good candidate for ethereum mining unless power and cooling issues are a factor.

it does not work like, that the card is immediately profitable from the moment you plug and play, because it give you more money than consumption, much more

reaching roi has nothing to do with this, because you can always sell your card at any point and have 100% refund basically, since those gpu are still new, they will hold their value for many months if not years

It’s not immediately profitable. You have a cost of $350 to $450 per card + whatever cost of tax and shipping is incurred. You also incur business cost of $/kwh.
That’s essentially business cost.

Yes, mining ethereum will currently return more monetary value than the cost of electricity, but it’s still not profit until its monetary value exceeds your infrastructure and operating costs. Until then what you mine is not profit, its just revenue. Even then you have to account for exchange fees of 0.25% to 1% in most cases + ~4.5 to 17 cents transfer fees of ethereum and bitcoin systems.

ROI has plenty to do with purchasing and investing in things like this. Anyone with a good strategy would factor this in ahead of time. And to think you will get 100% of the GPU purchase price via resale is very unlikely in most cases.

it can be true with old gpu, but not with new gpu, with new gpu there are high chance to sell them again for almost 100% of their original value

I bought a few R9 390 a month ago, it was $378 each. I can buy the same model from the same shop for $280 each. If I sell now, it might be $200 each.

i would not buy old gpu ever for that reason, new gpu on the other hand can be bought and sol at the same price, because the demand for them is still and will be very high

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