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Topic: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM - page 4. (Read 23360 times)

legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
It's all yours boss Wink

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.


This didn't last very long....


I changed my fucking mind because these scammers won't quit while their ahead and they went right back to playing dumb and provoking us all.

you people make me sick with your spamming trolling games to mouth people off and avoid talking about what it is exactly that countless people have a problem with.

whining and crying about me or any person that criticizes your scam coin is not going to make it seem legit i can assure you.
nor is it going to make us go away either.

consider using your brain for once..

all you guys are doing is playing Spam Bitcointalk fro attention games and if you can bad mouth then bonus why ?

Don't you hate it when people do what you do?

no not at all and what is that Captain snotty & vague ?

you have a big fucking mouth with nothing behind it.. i have proven how my mouth works.. you all shudder and piss yourselves.

sit down and shut the fuck up coin cloner.. and keep digging smart ass Wink

Why don't you and your fag fuck cocksucker BFF HyptnocockTEKfucker go fuck off.
Oh, come now. Hypnotique mounted a coherent attack. I think it without merit, but it's not the ramblings of a diseased mind. I don't think He deserves to be conflated with Spoetnik.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
It's all yours boss Wink

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.


This didn't last very long....


I changed my fucking mind because these scammers won't quit while their ahead and they went right back to playing dumb and provoking us all.

you people make me sick with your spamming trolling games to mouth people off and avoid talking about what it is exactly that countless people have a problem with.

whining and crying about me or any person that criticizes your scam coin is not going to make it seem legit i can assure you.
nor is it going to make us go away either.

consider using your brain for once..

all you guys are doing is playing Spam Bitcointalk fro attention games and if you can bad mouth then bonus why ?

Don't you hate it when people do what you do?

no not at all and what is that Captain snotty & vague ?

you have a big fucking mouth with nothing behind it.. i have proven how my mouth works.. you all shudder and piss yourselves.

sit down and shut the fuck up coin cloner.. and keep digging smart ass Wink

No, While I was gonna pack it in, ya done irritated me. I gave you all the ammunition you could possibly need if you had half the skills you claim. C'mon, "coin cloner?" You can't do any better than something you dreamed?

You've irritated me, but I'm past that. Now I'm simply amused. Every once in a while it's just straight up fun to step into a battle of wits with somebody who's totally unarmed.

There has been nothing vague in my replies, so now let's get serious, shall we?

I couldn't clone a coin if I had to to save my life. C++ looks about the same as Babylonian to me, and I don't have a rosetta stone. My skill is words, logic, and debate. But I have a grasp of english that you will never acquire, and if I choose to use logical fallacies, it IS a choice, not the default of a short circuited level of development. Your constant use of strawmen is pretty much proof positive that you have neither the wit, intestinal fortitude, nor skill to back even one allegation you've made towards me. Not too mention that you made most of it up from whole cloth. What's more, you know it, I know it, everybody who reads this knows it. The only reason I continue to engage is that I hope to drive you beyond the brink from which what passes for your mind simply can't recover. Don't know if I'll succeed, but I'll have fun doing it. I'll be that shadow in the back of your eye every fucking time you lie about me or my friends. I'll be the guy pointing out every stupid thing that spews forth from your unprincipled, disordered psyche. With the passage of sufficient time, should your obsession continue, I won't even have to do anything. My voice will become one of the many in your diseased imagination telling you "yes, do it. pull the trigger!"

When you implode, I will be there, laughing.

legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
It's all yours boss Wink

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.


This didn't last very long....


I changed my fucking mind because these scammers won't quit while their ahead and they went right back to playing dumb and provoking us all.

you people make me sick with your spamming trolling games to mouth people off and avoid talking about what it is exactly that countless people have a problem with.

whining and crying about me or any person that criticizes your scam coin is not going to make it seem legit i can assure you.
nor is it going to make us go away either.

consider using your brain for once..

all you guys are doing is playing Spam Bitcointalk fro attention games and if you can bad mouth then bonus why ?

Don't you hate it when people do what you do?

no not at all and what is that Captain snotty & vague ?

you have a big fucking mouth with nothing behind it.. i have proven how my mouth works.. you all shudder and piss yourselves.

sit down and shut the fuck up coin cloner.. and keep digging smart ass Wink
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
It's all yours boss Wink

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.


This didn't last very long....


I changed my fucking mind because these scammers won't quit while their ahead and they went right back to playing dumb and provoking us all.

you people make me sick with your spamming trolling games to mouth people off and avoid talking about what it is exactly that countless people have a problem with.

whining and crying about me or any person that criticizes your scam coin is not going to make it seem legit i can assure you.
nor is it going to make us go away either.

consider using your brain for once..

all you guys are doing is playing Spam Bitcointalk fro attention games and if you can bad mouth then bonus why ?

Don't you hate it when people do what you do?
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version,that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ, as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

Confirm the PM's or GTFO
The burden of proof is on you, not on us. YOU are the plaintiff, YOU contact the "legal" powers (here, Theymos). "The necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges." (semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit)

Quote from: Wikipedia - Legal Burden of Proof
He who does not carry the burden of proof carries the benefit of assumption, meaning he needs no evidence to support his claim. Fulfilling the burden of proof effectively captures the benefit of assumption, passing the burden of proof off to another party.

Plus, as presstab mentionned, should the PM offer be accepted (and at least on the ground of above-mentionned principles, we will not), a new thread and sock puppet would be created and it would all start over."

In the future, presstab, I will also repost your part. When I am not around, you can repost mine too Smiley

Also, new argument: Hypnotique had 0 posts when he started this thread. ZERO post means zero credibility per se, only his arguments could have some and they all have been debunked.

Edit: same for EyesWideOpen - ZERO post before this thread

Typical to try and wiggle your way out of it with more of your bullshit.

Facts are facts, aren't they. Regardless of where they come from. If you confirmed the PM's, even a new sock puppet would have no credibility since you will have already proven yourselves.

You won't confirm the PM's because they don't exist.

THIS IS WHY
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
It's all yours boss Wink

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.


This didn't last very long....


I changed my fucking mind because these scammers won't quit while their ahead and they went right back to playing dumb and provoking us all.

you people make me sick with your spamming trolling games to mouth people off and avoid talking about what it is exactly that countless people have a problem with.

whining and crying about me or any person that criticizes your scam coin is not going to make it seem legit i can assure you.
nor is it going to make us go away either.

consider using your brain for once..

all you guys are doing is playing Spam Bitcointalk fro attention games and if you can bad mouth then bonus why ?
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
So since we assume guilty until proven innocent, I am going to say these are communist government trolls, and unless they prove otherwise by having their governments prove their identity, I will assume they are filthy fiat communist government trolls  Cheesy  Grin Grin  Shocked  Cool
And Spoetnik is a Russian communist. Look at his nick: it is an unambiguous hommage to the first Russian artificial satellite, Sputnik.

The power of presumption of guilt Smiley

Spoetnik: this is just a joke, nothing implied here.

how is your shit not gone for spam ?

offtopic ?

the comments from Crazyloaf above ? and most of the others ? WTF ?
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
It's all yours boss Wink

Listen to this guy HYP'sters.. be smart and read what he said.

i have nothing more to contribute to this topic.


This didn't last very long....
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 503
Monero Core Team
So since we assume guilty until proven innocent, I am going to say these are communist government trolls, and unless they prove otherwise by having their governments prove their identity, I will assume they are filthy fiat communist government trolls  Cheesy  Grin Grin  Shocked  Cool
And Spoetnik is a Russian communist. Look at his nick: it is an unambiguous hommage to the first Russian artificial satellite, Sputnik.

The power of presumption of guilt Smiley

Spoetnik: this is just a joke, nothing implied here.
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
Blockchain Developer
Yeah good point David. I think these trolls think in the same way that many of the world's oppressive governments do: guilty until proven innocent. Maybe these are government trolls?  To bad they are too big of cowards to use their real usernames.  What would they have to lose by using their real names?

So since we assume guilty until proven innocent, I am going to say these are communist government trolls, and unless they prove otherwise by having their governments prove their identity, I will assume they are filthy fiat communist government trolls  Cheesy  Grin Grin  Shocked  Cool

What a ridiculous argument. Post the PM's or GTFO retard.

oooo or else what? Its not moderated thread. You gunna like post in all caps or something?
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
Yeah good point David. I think these trolls think in the same way that many of the world's oppressive governments do: guilty until proven innocent. Maybe these are government trolls?  To bad they are too big of cowards to use their real usernames.  What would they have to lose by using their real names?

So since we assume guilty until proven innocent, I am going to say these are communist government trolls, and unless they prove otherwise by having their governments prove their identity, I will assume they are filthy fiat communist government trolls  Cheesy  Grin Grin  Shocked  Cool

What a ridiculous argument. Post the PM's or GTFO retard.
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
Blockchain Developer
Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version,that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ, as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

Confirm the PM's or GTFO
The burden of proof is on you, not on us. YOU are the plaintiff, YOU contact the "legal" powers (here, Theymos). "The necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges." (semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit)

Quote from: Wikipedia - Legal Burden of Proof
He who does not carry the burden of proof carries the benefit of assumption, meaning he needs no evidence to support his claim. Fulfilling the burden of proof effectively captures the benefit of assumption, passing the burden of proof off to another party.

Plus, as presstab mentionned, should the PM offer be accepted (and at least on the ground of above-mentionned principles, we will not), a new thread and sock puppet would be created and it would all start over."

In the future, presstab, I will also repost your part. When I am not around, you can repost mine too Smiley

Also, new argument: Hypnotique had 0 posts when he started this thread. ZERO post means zero credibility per se, only his arguments could have some and they all have been debunked.

Edit: same for EyesWideOpen - ZERO post before this thread

Yeah good point David. I think these trolls think in the same way that many of the world's oppressive governments do: guilty until proven innocent. Maybe these are government trolls?  To bad they are too big of cowards to use their real usernames.  What would they have to lose by using their real names?

So since we assume guilty until proven innocent, I am going to say these are communist government trolls, and unless they prove otherwise by having their governments prove their identity, I will assume they are filthy fiat communist government trolls  Cheesy  Grin Grin  Shocked  Cool
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
Gresham's Lawyer
i bet my left nut David Latapie is rpietila

I will take this bet.
Who will escrow?
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version,that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ, as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

Confirm the PM's or GTFO
The burden of proof is on you, not on us. YOU are the plaintiff, YOU contact the "legal" powers (here, Theymos). "The necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges." (semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit)

Quote from: Wikipedia - Legal Burden of Proof
He who does not carry the burden of proof carries the benefit of assumption, meaning he needs no evidence to support his claim. Fulfilling the burden of proof effectively captures the benefit of assumption, passing the burden of proof off to another party.

Plus, as presstab mentionned, should the PM offer be accepted (and at least on the ground of above-mentionned principles, we will not), a new thread and sock puppet would be created and it would all start over."

In the future, presstab, I will also repost your part. When I am not around, you can repost mine too Smiley

Also, new argument: Hypnotique had 0 posts when he started this thread. ZERO post means zero credibility per se, only his arguments could have some and they all have been debunked.

David, no one asked Presstab to share the PMs between the two of you. He offered it voluntarily to "trolls" and "fudsters" in an attempt to defend you (I think you probably told him to do that). However the purported PMs between the two of you which he posted looked seriously fake. These are the alleged PMs.

And via PM from David:
Hi presstab,

We need to announce how long will be the grace period (time between publishing wallet and hardfork).

No grace.
What! I strongly suggest against that. Time zone, people having a life. Give at least one day.


When I ask him and you to verify the PMs with respected Hero forums members or escrows, he immediately started sending me PMs. When that didn't work, you and him asked everyone to stop responding to the thread. When that didn't work, he suddenly claimed he won't respond to 'trolls" and "fudsters", despite voluntarily posting the PMs in the first place. Now you suddenly claim even if Presstab did verify the PMs, new threads will be created asking to verify those PMs again. If that actually happens, you or anyone from the Hyperstake community could just easily quote the confirmation.

I have specifically said that I will stop posting in this thread if you two can confirm the existence of the PMs. Hypnotique went a step further and even offered to hand over his account to you two. You two can end this thread right now by proving the existence of the PMs.

I think it's very obvious to everyone that both of you are liars. The only question that remains is, how many other lies have the two of you concocted?




legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
i bet my left nut David Latapie is rpietila

Ahahahahaha! Wow Spoetnik, you're just funny now. I really hope you're at least buying into XMR and HYP with all this FUD you're throwing around.

I am way too busy but i have suspected them for a while..
if anything there is some occasional fishy'ness that made me think that..
true or not i don't know i need to do some digging real soon.. if it's true i will have 'em.

Spoetnik ALWAYS gets his man !

PS:
crying FUD is uhhh brilliant.. keep it up LOL
member
Activity: 70
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Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version,that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ, as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

Confirm the PM's or GTFO
The burden of proof is on you, not on us. YOU are the plaintiff, YOU contact the "legal" powers (here, Theymos). "The necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges." (semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit)

Quote from: Wikipedia - Legal Burden of Proof
He who does not carry the burden of proof carries the benefit of assumption, meaning he needs no evidence to support his claim. Fulfilling the burden of proof effectively captures the benefit of assumption, passing the burden of proof off to another party.

Plus, as presstab mentionned, should the PM offer be accepted (and at least on the ground of above-mentionned principles, we will not), a new thread and sock puppet would be created and it would all start over."

In the future, presstab, I will also repost your part. When I am not around, you can repost mine too Smiley

Also, new argument: Hypnotique had 0 posts when he started this thread. ZERO post means zero credibility per se, only his arguments could have some and they all have been debunked.

Edit: same for EyesWideOpen - ZERO post before this thread

Typical to try and wiggle your way out of it with more of your bullshit.

Facts are facts, aren't they. Regardless of where they come from. If you confirmed the PM's, even a new sock puppet would have no credibility since you will have already proven yourselves.

You won't confirm the PM's because they don't exist.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 503
Monero Core Team
Since the thread is still ongoing and apparently willing to be the Monero free for all thread of HYP (with Hypnotique as BCX) and since, consequently, not feeding the troll seems not to work, I feel compelled to remind honest truth-seekers of these two things:

  • Presstab version,that I completely approve.
  • FUD FAQ, as factual as possible replies to the FUD, with a focus on wasting as few energy as possible on debunking. As the quote says, “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it”

I'm considering frequently reposting this very message. High signal-to-noise and low amount of energy (just reposting). Let's increase the efficiency of FUD-fighting!

Confirm the PM's or GTFO
The burden of proof is on you, not on us. YOU are the plaintiff, YOU contact the "legal" powers (here, Theymos). "The necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges." (semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit)

Quote from: Wikipedia - Legal Burden of Proof
He who does not carry the burden of proof carries the benefit of assumption, meaning he needs no evidence to support his claim. Fulfilling the burden of proof effectively captures the benefit of assumption, passing the burden of proof off to another party.

Plus, as presstab mentionned, should the PM offer be accepted (and at least on the ground of above-mentionned principles, we will not), a new thread and sock puppet would be created and it would all start over."

In the future, presstab, I will also repost your part. When I am not around, you can repost mine too Smiley

Also, new argument: Hypnotique had 0 posts when he started this thread. ZERO post means zero credibility per se, only his arguments could have some and they all have been debunked.

Edit: same for EyesWideOpen - ZERO post before this thread
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
In case anyone forgot, these questions have been answered already. Hypnotique just knows that nobody cares enough to read through the entire thread to find em. So here you go:


"Fake" PM's
David, presstab.. have you decided which moderator or trusted community member will be verifying the existence of the PM's you posted?

If the PM's are confirmed legitimate, I will relinquish control of this Hypnotique account to the mod/community member.

They are of course legitimate. And your offer is cute, a new thread and sock puppet will be created and it will all start over. Nobody cares, and all of the accusations have been answered. Get over it.


It looks like I will have to repost these answers every few days, because that is about how long it takes for Hypnotique to get amnesia, but no worries. Not that big of a deal really.

Let me understand this. You think the question of the PM's is answered because you quoted an earlier response of yours that proves nothing? Not very bright are you  Roll Eyes

It's clear to everyone the PM's were manufactured by you and your accomplice David Latapie.

I bet you regret mentioning the phantom PM's in the first place. If only you were more intelligent. Maybe then you wouldn't need to scam for a living.
legendary
Activity: 1330
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Blockchain Developer
In case anyone forgot, these questions have been answered already. Hypnotique just knows that nobody cares enough to read through the entire thread to find em. So here you go:

Fork Time Changed because the fork took longer than expected
Block explorer time of fork: 07-07-14 04:01:55 http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/block?block=31781
Planned Fork Time (still in the code) : https://github.com/presstab/HyperStake/blob/master/src/main.h#L43
Code:
static const unsigned int FORK_TIME = 1404678625; // Sun, 06 Jul 2014 20:30:25 GMT


"Fake" PM's
David, presstab.. have you decided which moderator or trusted community member will be verifying the existence of the PM's you posted?

If the PM's are confirmed legitimate, I will relinquish control of this Hypnotique account to the mod/community member.

They are of course legitimate. And your offer is cute, a new thread and sock puppet will be created and it will all start over. Nobody cares, and all of the accusations have been answered. Get over it.


It looks like I will have to repost these answers every few days, because that is about how long it takes for Hypnotique to get amnesia, but no worries. Not that big of a deal really.

Forgot to add that there is a new version of the HyperStake wallet released today, check it out here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9416112
legendary
Activity: 1540
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FUD Philanthropist™
i bet my left nut David Latapie is rpietila
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