Topic: [HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake HYPER SCAM - page 10. (Read 23366 times)

At least we talked.. that alone is a step in the right direction.
For far too long this forum changed dramatically from when i registered here..
We all went from discussing the coins and the concepts etc to non stop cloning and advertising
and then creating new accounts to accuse someone of being a FUD'er or Troll every few minutes.
It was not like this before guys and many of you are clueless because you got here to trade Doge coin in Nov or December !

i don't see ANY of you stepping up to claim the 1,000+ shit coins posted in the ANN section.. it's always someone else  
FUD first and ask questions later !
Why ? duh look around you and notice that scams are allowed (prob because it would be too hard to moderate)
So who moderates then ?
Not the guys hiding LOL

Posting ..one.. more... coin... is asking for it !

presstab said so what who cares and that everyone already knows, when this topic was posted on Poloniex chat..
well it seems to me everyone cares and almost nobody knew the HYP price tanked right after.. it dropped in half !

what we have here is a long line of points where you HYP guys are putting your best foot forward.
and anyone that notices any of the countless bad things about the coin are "obvious trolls"
how about not hiding all these bits of info in the first place ? and then trolling on guys who point it out ?

half of this topic is name calling and false accusations for me being the OP (for example) and i told you all a million times i don't know who guy is.. seriously !
Who's the troll ? ya uhh who is talking about coins ?
and who is here simply for name calling and attacks ? ..the answer lies on the previous pages.. read it

I'll let them fight their fights for the most part. I'm a HYP supporter and have never made any bones about it. I'm also of the opinion that open source projects are the property of those who use them and put in the effort. I've known Press for quite a while and David for a short while, and I tend to believe them. It's a pretty minor issue, to be honest.

However, my issue with Spoetnik isn't that he calls people out over scams, but that he does so in a manner guaranteed to make him look like an idiot. I have ZERO issue with people digging in the dirt (if any) of any coin. I really don't think any of you are going to find anything outrageous here, but hey, I've been wrong in the past and likely will be again. We all make mistakes. Frankly, I have often looked into things in a positive light BECAUSE Spoetnik hated them. I sometimes have wondered if he's some sort of reverse shill, like most movie critics when reviewing action movies. I also hate how he seizes on something that seemingly everyone else knows like it's a fucking revelation.

As to whether I'm a fool? Time will tell. I try not to be.

LOL
Let me put it this way. I missed the speech that led to men landing on the moon, but I didn't miss the launch, and I remember Apollo 13 quite vividly. Not the movie

I'm a few weeks shy of 46. And I'm definitely a nerd, though long past being a teenager. Didn't like 'em much when I was one, time has not improved my opinion.

Thought I had adequately addressed this, but as it's a legitimate question, I'll answer that. No, I don't think it will fail due to concept. I think the concept is valid. Whether it will prove out in the long run? I honestly think that most coins in the bitcoin vein will ultimately fail as newer and better means of using blockchain technology displace them. I include Bitcoin in that. But I also think the basal concept of cryptocurrency will redefine money, and I WELCOME the experimentation. I've both won and lost in the hyperspace of cryptocurrency, and found a place in life that I have long sought. I'm not in it solely for profit. I am first and foremost an anarcho-capitalist, and I think that cryptos further my philosophy. If you, or anyone for that matter, are just looking for quick profits, that's on you. I've no objection to that, even, it's just not my bag. I'm looking to the mid to long term, and I think that POS coins meet that need more than POW coins. That I hold and support both, and am an avid miner, should illustrate my bent and dedication.

As for Trolling, yes, I understand the term. While many equate it with underbridge dwellers, I know it's derivation. It's from fishing, and it's casting bait on a long line and dragging it through the water to provoke a response. Precisely your style. As I said, I have previously just let you rant. This is NOT the first encounter I've had with you. In nearly every case it's just self aggrandizing bullshit with a smattering of facts and a whole lot of negative speculation. I'm not insulting their intelligence, I was, as you noted, insulting yours. I should have instead attacked your style, but I was pissed off. For that I apologize, if not for my conclusions. I stand by them.

it's good to see elite Hero members deciding to speak up and chime in with an opinion for once.
it's pretty easy to kick back silently contributing nothing to the Altcoin scene while helping put coins out.
where have you guys been ? hmm ?

in case some of you are unaware there is no rule against scamming here but i bet some coin "contributors/contractors" are more than aware of this
and where were they on the last 100 scam coins we discussed ? hmm ?
people that contribute to the altcoin scene have opinions that hold weight.. not those that hide !
and only pop up with a Royal appearance to defend THEIR COIN.

Presstab, it's been two days and you're still grasping at all sorts of straws trying to hide from your lies (and David has strangely gone silent  ).
It will literally take you a few minutes to contact one of the people I listed and asked them to verify the existence of your and David's phantom emails.
You can actually get rid of me by just confirming the existence of those PMs.
Instead, you rather waste all of our times posting about other things, sending me PMs and warning people off from posting in this thread.
It doesn't make sense. Verify those PMs exist and you will likely end this thread.




@Biomech, you are silent about the PMs. What's your take on that? You have a lot of opinions judging by the way you have insulted and belittled Spoetnik, so you must have an opinion about the phantom PMs. Why do you think Presstab is refusing to verify their existence? You said earlier that "if you don't ask the hard questions, you're a fool". Why are you not asking the hard and obvious question to Presstab here?

Does it not stand to reason that if David and Presstab can concoct a fake and elaborate series of PMs between them, they have also likely lied about other aspects of Hyperstake? If they can easily lie to their 'supporters', you must also wonder and ask why they quietly edited the ANN thread. You're no fool, right?

Good to see people talking with facts now.

We should create a carrousel for hyperstake.com. I will propose to squiggie

I have a challenge: let's beat the Monero thread free for all in pagination. I know, it will take time but at least will have nice pictures Maybe the goal is the same: tank the price of HYP. Doesn't look that effective, though.

The number one reason why I teamed up with him.

I even learnt things on this thread w00t
Now that we are on the anecdotes, Biomech, your first name in France is popular in people who are in their twenties now and some years ago, your first name was synonym for "immature pre-teen nerd". Since the popularity of a given name for a given generation change from one country to another, I suppose you are more then 20 (an definitely not a "immature pre-teen nerd", but that was a given) but I still struggle at guessing your age
/end anecdote

do you think it's going to fail or no though ?
to me i think the core concept is doomed to failure and it's going to be a loss for people who lose money over a fun experiment !
you think i am "an obvious troll" and i think i am one of them few guys around her offering sane info to new users
you just said my point was good man
I also don't think 90% of you know what the word Troll means you use it as an insulting word of attack to discredit people.
or you do but your playing dumb about it AKA: Bitcointalk rule #1
who is here bending over backwards to warn guys and not just scream buy my shitty altcoin... experiment #1,600 for "fun and profit"
what you call Trolling i call looking out for the vulnerable so many of you so nonchalantly give two shits about.

keep up with the evil Troll FUD'ing people bullshit for the one zillionth time people watching are not going to buy it
..don't insult our intelligence .

i come to talk coins not trade insults with spoiled brats who want our Bitcoin.
if they want to troll they can go do it at 4chan or something..
previous page i reported presstab to the mods for bragging about trolling by the way.. what does that tell you ?

cut the crap guys.. don't PLAY smart.. BE SMART !

I agree with you on this point, i modified the thread title

edit: after some consideration i re-modified it  

I actually responded point by point. I am not hiding a goddamn thing.

As for asking? No problem on my side. If you don't ask the hard questions, you're a fool. It's more the way you "ask". Calling scam (yes, I know you're not the OP) and then mischaracterizing a great deal of the actual PUBLIC history of the coin is not asking, it's accusing. My problem with you is, as it has been for a long time, that you come out shooting and hope you hit a nerve. You ain't no "disinterested public servant" if ever there was such a thing.

I also will admit that I countered you for the pure fun of it, since normally I don't bother with obvious trolls. I used to, a lot, back in the 90's, because it's fun. But it's also taxing and time consuming, and I don't have the time that I once did.

Says the anonymous developer who won't even POD for his own coin. What "identity" are you posting from anyway besides a collection of posts on a bitcoin forum?

edit: Yeah you better back away LOL.. back to the safety of your self-moderated threads

edit2: I wonder why you might "recommend" such a thing  

guys it's not a personal issue for me speaking on my own behalf it's about facts !

if facts look shady or something oh well.. it happens in crypto non stop deal with it.
if a guys says something is sketchy looking don't bother trying to Troll him and discredit his opinion.. it's a waste of time.
set the record straight and move on.
who likes who doesn't matter..

i just finished putting it on that guy and he keeps hiding.
does he really believe high POS is a "successful" idea ?
well if he does then we agree to disagree ..but asking is fair !

in that situation what more can i expect ?
i post a point he posts his we move and others form their own opinion how ever they want.

but please spare me this i am getting picked on by evil FUD'ers garbage..
a bunch of us have tried hard to talk about coins and you have all responded by attacking us personally NON STOP !
which is rather telling to the astute observer no ?

Thats what I thought son.

EDIT
When you decide to own up to who you are I will give the all clear to the mods to check those PM's. I won't be responding to this thread anymore, because you all just keep saying the same things over and over and over, and I keep quoting the same response over and over and over. The topics are covered. When you man up, go ahead an PM with a link to your post owning up to who you are.

EDIT2

I would also recommend for others to stop posting as well.  Up to you of course, but I think we have done our job answering every question they have had. They can't even list their questions anymore.  SPoetnik is sad, and another guy is jealous. Big deal.

You don't get to make demands presstab.. you're the one trying to run a scheme here, remember? You're the one with over 1 million HYP  

Still don't understand why its such a big deal to get a mod/hero member to verify the PM's when you've already posted the contents here

Post from your real identity and Ill give the clearance. Post from another of your sockpuppets and you have no deal.  I know you are somebody that I will know and have at least heard of, so don't use a troll account with a little bit of history to bait me.  Real or no deal.  Your move, can you man up and admit who you are? Or are you too embarrassed of yourself?

Quote me. I don't think I said that, though I did say it's been successful so far. Which I stand by. It's too new to be called a success in any long term sense. I've never deliberately stated otherwise and have in fact said exactly that in public and in private many times.

3rd time posting absolutely nothing. It's clear to everyone the PM's don't exist. Admit it, you'll feel better afterwards.

Granted. It was a low blow. And I am a smartass, and I did attack you personally. I think you have it coming. But onward. I'll address it. But first...

30, 1947, 7.62 x 39 mm, and for most variants, 12.

No, I don't. I know that it's a very high rate of minting, but I can say the same of a great many proof of work coins. Let's first dispense with that. This is not interest in the traditional sense (a repayment of profit in return for access to the asset), but rather a different form of mining that uses held stake in place of something like my Zeusminer blizzard.
Also, with the max subsidy at 1000 coins per stake, the cap is 950,000 coins per day (with variation due to blockspeed, but not much). This will EVENTUALLY be far less than 750% per year.  This provides incentive to hold coins to keep pace with the reduction in POS payouts over time, and we're already seeing this. I'm a very small bagholder (don't consider myself such, but it's the term that keeps getting bandied around) and I will NOT sell from my principle. I'd like to see merchant adoption and hope it comes to fruition. I can think of several mechanisms by which that might occur. This isn't the place for that.

Because it derived from TRK??? Which derived from several others, ultimately bitcoin? Should he have cloned bitcoin and modified it? Would you consider that legit? This argument fails utterly unless applied to every alt but NXT and it's derivatives. (to my knowledge. There may be some others that are unrelated to BTC)
Based on your post history, over the course of my time on this forum, yes, yes, and yes.
Actually, it is my opinion  that over time the price is likely to drop as we approach max subsidy, but the value of staking will go up as there will be less opportunity. Certainly, it's a Miltonian position and I usually support Von Mises, but I think that ONE source of inflation rather than many totally arbitrary ones makes it a worthy experiment. If you have ten times what you have today, but it's worth 20 percent per unit of what it was, have you not still gained?

Not being a developer and having a limited understanding of c++, I'm not qualified to answer that. Do you know how to set up a pure POS test net? This isn't sarcasm, I would actually like to know.

3rd time posting this: