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February 11, 2018, 08:36:58 AM

Innosilicon A1 was No. 1 btc Asic in 2014, independently developed by innosilicon, who subsequently developed A2 to A6 various leading performance mining asic in the world.  There has been zero legal issues whatsoever. It's well known Bitmine screwed up and didn't not know to do asic or miners. Innosilicon issued lengthy statement regarding bitmine with full explanation in bitcoin talk before, it's said and done for years!

Folks, it's easy to point finger, but remember, any spread of rumor or false allegation without proof is ill intended, wrong and subject to legal consequences.

By the way, here is Inno explanation about Bitmine accusations.   As I did not get a reply from Inno_ASIC with the link, I found it myself, don't say me "thank you"  Wink

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/innosilicon-official-reponse-to-bitmine-bankruptcy-let-the-evidence-talk-1117069
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February 11, 2018, 08:17:39 AM
As a proof for a VERY POOR quality of Inno miners - here is a picture from the burned A5s.   As Inno is a China company, it is rather hard to influence them   Grin

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February 10, 2018, 05:13:55 PM
So I updated the firmware on my A5 because it stopped mining

Be aware of the possible fire  Shocked Shocked   Here is information from a mining farm:

15 more A5’s caught fire today. All A5’s turned off again.  Downclock and upgrade firmware doesn’t help in this time. We will wait an engineer from Innosillicon to upgrade hardware and remove capacitors.

 Undecided Undecided Cry Cry
Where did you see this? Source?
It's from the personnel of the mining farm where I host my miners.  Luckily i don't host A5s.  (Sorry would not like to disclose name of the farm).
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February 10, 2018, 01:36:38 AM
So I updated the firmware on my A5 because it stopped mining

Be aware of the possible fire  Shocked Shocked   Here is information from a mining farm:

15 more A5’s caught fire today. All A5’s turned off again.  Downclock and upgrade firmware doesn’t help in this time. We will wait an engineer from Innosillicon to upgrade hardware and remove capacitors.

 Undecided Undecided Cry Cry
Where did you see this? Source?
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Activity: 392
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February 09, 2018, 09:10:55 PM
So I updated the firmware on my A5 because it stopped mining

Be aware of the possible fire  Shocked Shocked   Here is information from a mining farm:

15 more A5’s caught fire today. All A5’s turned off again.  Downclock and upgrade firmware doesn’t help in this time. We will wait an engineer from Innosillicon to upgrade hardware and remove capacitors.

 Undecided Undecided Cry Cry
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February 09, 2018, 09:08:48 PM
In summary

1. They lie about delivery time
2. The miners are low quality and boards burn easily
3. The company isn't professional and the staff (if you are lucky enough to get a reply from them) are extremely rude and barley reply to emails
4. They are in China so there's nothing you can do about it (they know that you can see it from the way they treat their customers)
5. They have a mentality that they are entitled to your money and them sending miners (even if they don't work) is a job done and it's up to you to figure it out.
6. They will put you through hell to get support on broken miners
7. Warranty is bullshit they'll make you pay for anything and will even try to squeeze more profits out of you
8. X11 mining algo is REKTTT


I will not forget Innosilicon even if i'm 80 years old

I will not forget what they did to me

Pity for you   Cry

I am so happy I did not buy it, but i wanted   .    Decided to order D3 instead  - which was not a good decision too Roll Eyes   But D3 are of much better quailty, so there is no headache with burning miners at least  Grin
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Activity: 462
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February 05, 2018, 09:59:03 AM
I got my "A4+ Super" from Innosilicon miner this week as compensation for the late A5.
Price was $403.33 for shipping.

To quote the email I had received "Delivery of the miners will be finished within 3 biz days after payment confirmation."
In typical Innosilicon fashion, 45 days later, it arrived.

The miner label says "Innosilicon A4+ Super LTC Master (new and better A4+)"
I find it interesting that I had not seen this online before.

It's hashing very nicely at 663 MHS at 840W.
Despite Innosilicon's reputation and customer support issues, I do appreciate the compensated miner and realize that they weren't required to do this.

I am running the latest updated files "update_180129.bin" for both miners and their both running fine.


Did u overall make money or lose with that deal because there was a time where D3 which is 15hgz was selling for 5k usd (first batch) because it could make around 8-10k usd id i recall right. Next batches were 2.5k and 1.4k usd if I recall right.

Ao if u gotten A5 fast, can roi real fast.

Unfortunately due to shipping delays, nobody was able to reach ROI with an A5 yet. The D3's were out months before anybody got their hands on the A5, they drove up the difficulty to high to fast for the A5 purchasers to take advantage of the low difficulty rate. Which is why they decided to offer the A4+ as compensation for anybody who bought an A5.

I got one from the first batch (I got mine December 1st, they originally promised early October) but the D3's drove up the mining difficulty way to much before anybody with an A5 had the opportunity to get in early.

I've only been able to mine about 0.67 Dash with my A5.

At current prices of Dash and Litecoin, I'm still looking at well over a year or two to reach ROI. But by that time there will most likely be something that is more powerful that drives the mining difficulty up too high.

I believe at this point, the only chance to reach ROI is if the prices of Dash and Litecoin appreciate significantly over time.


Sigh, thats the problem. And now most or almost all dash miners will not break even. I got near around 2 dash with 2 D3. Speed is important and mining these days juz gets harder.

The thing is if u believe in price appreciation, then, u should buy coins rather than mine. U will make more that way since u buy more coins, get them faster and they appreciate rather than u mine and u get lesser coins than if u were to buy and the coins come slowly over time.
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February 04, 2018, 08:32:02 PM
So I updated the firmware on my A5 because it stopped mining and now I can't load the web page that shows my dashboard. I'm mining to zpool so I can't check to see if my miner is up without the dashboard either. The green light on the back is flashing and the miner fans are running with a little heat coming off the fans making me think it is working but I can't tell.

When I first updated it to the new firmware, I was able to use the dashboard but I couldn't change my mining pools. So I then updated it again with putting the check box in the return to factor settings since some people said that worked. That is when the dashboard wouldn't turn on after doing that update.

I emailed innosilicon but you all know how futile that is. Been down for over 48 hours. Up until now I was always able to trouble shoot it myself and get it working.

Anyone have any suggestions or know what is going on?
Have you logged into your router to see if there are any new IP addresses? If the miner is getting hot and seems to be mining, it is probably just mining on the default Innosilicon pool.

When I updated, I ticked the 'Return To Factory Default Settings' as well and it changed the IP to something like 192.168.1.16 instead of the default 192.168.1.254. I found the address through my router and changed it back. Alternatively you could use IP scanning software to find it as well.
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Activity: 47
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February 04, 2018, 04:04:08 PM
So I updated the firmware on my A5 because it stopped mining and now I can't load the web page that shows my dashboard. I'm mining to zpool so I can't check to see if my miner is up without the dashboard either. The green light on the back is flashing and the miner fans are running with a little heat coming off the fans making me think it is working but I can't tell.

When I first updated it to the new firmware, I was able to use the dashboard but I couldn't change my mining pools. So I then updated it again with putting the check box in the return to factor settings since some people said that worked. That is when the dashboard wouldn't turn on after doing that update.

I emailed innosilicon but you all know how futile that is. Been down for over 48 hours. Up until now I was always able to trouble shoot it myself and get it working.

Anyone have any suggestions or know what is going on?
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Activity: 84
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February 04, 2018, 09:59:39 AM
I got my "A4+ Super" from Innosilicon miner this week as compensation for the late A5.
Price was $403.33 for shipping.

To quote the email I had received "Delivery of the miners will be finished within 3 biz days after payment confirmation."
In typical Innosilicon fashion, 45 days later, it arrived.

The miner label says "Innosilicon A4+ Super LTC Master (new and better A4+)"
I find it interesting that I had not seen this online before.

It's hashing very nicely at 663 MHS at 840W.
Despite Innosilicon's reputation and customer support issues, I do appreciate the compensated miner and realize that they weren't required to do this.

I am running the latest updated files "update_180129.bin" for both miners and their both running fine.


Did u overall make money or lose with that deal because there was a time where D3 which is 15hgz was selling for 5k usd (first batch) because it could make around 8-10k usd id i recall right. Next batches were 2.5k and 1.4k usd if I recall right.

Ao if u gotten A5 fast, can roi real fast.

Unfortunately due to shipping delays, nobody was able to reach ROI with an A5 yet. The D3's were out months before anybody got their hands on the A5, they drove up the difficulty to high to fast for the A5 purchasers to take advantage of the low difficulty rate. Which is why they decided to offer the A4+ as compensation for anybody who bought an A5.

I got one from the first batch (I got mine December 1st, they originally promised early October) but the D3's drove up the mining difficulty way to much before anybody with an A5 had the opportunity to get in early.

I've only been able to mine about 0.67 Dash with my A5.

At current prices of Dash and Litecoin, I'm still looking at well over a year or two to reach ROI. But by that time there will most likely be something that is more powerful that drives the mining difficulty up too high.

I believe at this point, the only chance to reach ROI is if the prices of Dash and Litecoin appreciate significantly over time.
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Activity: 462
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February 04, 2018, 07:49:33 AM
I got my "A4+ Super" from Innosilicon miner this week as compensation for the late A5.
Price was $403.33 for shipping.

To quote the email I had received "Delivery of the miners will be finished within 3 biz days after payment confirmation."
In typical Innosilicon fashion, 45 days later, it arrived.

The miner label says "Innosilicon A4+ Super LTC Master (new and better A4+)"
I find it interesting that I had not seen this online before.

It's hashing very nicely at 663 MHS at 840W.
Despite Innosilicon's reputation and customer support issues, I do appreciate the compensated miner and realize that they weren't required to do this.

I am running the latest updated files "update_180129.bin" for both miners and their both running fine.


Did u overall make money or lose with that deal because there was a time where D3 which is 15hgz was selling for 5k usd (first batch) because it could make around 8-10k usd id i recall right. Next batches were 2.5k and 1.4k usd if I recall right.

Ao if u gotten A5 fast, can roi real fast.
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Activity: 84
Merit: 11
February 03, 2018, 08:13:38 AM
I got my "A4+ Super" from Innosilicon miner this week as compensation for the late A5.
Price was $403.33 for shipping.

To quote the email I had received "Delivery of the miners will be finished within 3 biz days after payment confirmation."
In typical Innosilicon fashion, 45 days later, it arrived.

The miner label says "Innosilicon A4+ Super LTC Master (new and better A4+)"
I find it interesting that I had not seen this online before.

It's hashing very nicely at 663 MHS at 840W.
Despite Innosilicon's reputation and customer support issues, I do appreciate the compensated miner and realize that they weren't required to do this.

I am running the latest updated files "update_180129.bin" for both miners and their both running fine.
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Activity: 34
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February 03, 2018, 05:28:54 AM
In summary

1. They lie about delivery time
2. The miners are low quality and boards burn easily
3. The company isn't professional and the staff (if you are lucky enough to get a reply from them) are extremely rude and barley reply to emails
4. They are in China so there's nothing you can do about it (they know that you can see it from the way they treat their customers)
5. They have a mentality that they are entitled to your money and them sending miners (even if they don't work) is a job done and it's up to you to figure it out.
6. They will put you through hell to get support on broken miners
7. Warranty is bullshit they'll make you pay for anything and will even try to squeeze more profits out of you
8. X11 mining algo is REKTTT


I will not forget Innosilicon even if i'm 80 years old

I will not forget what they did to me
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February 03, 2018, 05:09:57 AM
Worst decision/investment of my life.

After difficulty sky rocketed, I received the miners one month late

One is already broken, barley ran it

I'm just running what's left to recoup as much as I can, 10 or 20% is fine at this time. Making a profit is not even being considered

All that while bitcoin hit 19k USD

Wish I had just bought bitcoin and sold the peak

Now I know I should be responsible for investment decisions and no one could foresee BITMAIN fucking up the difficulty level and killing mining rewards the way they did

But that doesn't mean these ruthless scumbags that took my money can treat me like a beggar and don't even bother replying to emails for a week or two while i'm losing every day they are late

And don't be fooled, before taking your money they'll be nice and sweat and do whatever it takes to sell

After that you are pretty much their slave and they make sure you know that in the most disrespectful way you can imagine

Was so mad I went numb

There's not even a number you could call. Just email them and they'll reply after a week or so with a dry one line reply that doesn't resolve shit

Guess this was the most expensive lesson of my life, literally it's more expensive than a college degree

I wish I could get back at them for doing what they did to me

I wish they go all in on a shitcoin like bitconnect and lose every godamn hard earned penny they caused me to lose

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Activity: 462
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February 03, 2018, 03:31:25 AM
If we thought the instructions for updating software on the A5 through the TF card reader was bad. Wait until you see the instructions for the newest mandatory hardware update PDF titled "Mandatory hardware fix to avoid overheating in A5 dashmaster". It's actually hilariously poorly written.

Any other legitimate company would offer a paid recall of their product and fix their overheating hardware issue to maintain their reputation and trust. I guess since it has been made clear that all their customers are dissatisfied and angry at Innosilicon, I guess they figure they have nothing to lose by issuing their latest update requiring the customers to do it themselves.

Apparently their warranty seal means nothing if they are demanding that customers actually open up their miners and fuck with very intricate components Cheesy Not that it matters to me because mine came with broken warranty seals anyways Roll Eyes

I'm surprised that my A5 is actually hashing nicely at 33 GH/s. Everything they do is such a facepalm that it seems like a miracle that they actually managed to create the worlds most efficient Dash miner (commercially available at the time of this post).

Also, changing topic, more A5's are popping up on eBay. The one I saw today was selling as a "Buy it now" / "Free shipping" for $5300 US... Ouch.

Thats insane. At 10 cents electricity, it will take around 29 months to break even at that price. At 5 cents electricity, it would take near 26 months. This isnt about electrical cost and this calculation is without VAT yet. The machine may not even last that long and alot of things can go wrong during that period. Also, dash is somewhat asic resistant and asic resistance is one of dash's design goals. I guess everyone mining dash is just not happy these days lol.

I believe manufacturers cant sell them at a price that makes sense for miners to buy. To sell dash miners at such a price would not make sense to manufacturers. Does anyone actually buy dash miners these days? Mining other coins are better. Most people mining dash would probably never break even, sadly.
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February 02, 2018, 07:04:07 PM

Innosilicon A1 was No. 1 btc Asic in 2014, independently developed by innosilicon, who subsequently developed A2 to A6 various leading performance mining asic in the world.  There has been zero legal issues whatsoever. It's well known Bitmine screwed up and didn't not know to do asic or miners. Innosilicon issued lengthy statement regarding bitmine with full explanation in bitcoin talk before, it's said and done for years!

Folks, it's easy to point finger, but remember, any spread of rumor or false allegation without proof is ill intended, wrong and subject to legal consequences.

A5 quality is not good, and is suddenly burning,  that is why people who bought it started to find explanation, and shared that Bitmine link. 

Can you give a link to Innosilicon statement about Bitmine, please?


So, waiting for the link of  "lengthy statement regarding bitmine with full explanation"  Smiley

Alternatevely please post this statement here.
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February 02, 2018, 11:25:42 AM
Anyone have install last update on own asic? http://www.innosilicon.com.cn/download/update_180129.bin
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February 01, 2018, 08:39:19 PM
Everybody should stay away from Innosilicon, due to it's long bad reputation, and extremely POOR quality of the chips and miners.

Below is a proof of their earlier unfair & lier behaviour.  

Look at bitmine.ch stolen technology, insolvency of bitmine.ch years ago, due to scams from Innosilicon:

Innosilicon. The company that we engaged for the development of our A1 CoinCraft chip ended up in being BITMINE’s biggest failure. We engaged this company with a regular contract and entitled them to develop our 28nm ASIC based on our know-how and instructions, along with the full turnkey process of creating the mask, wafers and IC packaging. We had signed a contract that was expecting to guarantee us a one year exclusivity on the chip, however at a later stage we received proof that Innosilicon was plainly violating the contract from day zero and selling our own A1 chips to whoever inquired them directly. Once we pointed this out, they simply stopped answering our enquiries and disappeared, putting us in obvious panic because we had an extremely tight schedule and obligation to deliver the miners on time and they knew that perfectly. So, once they knew how attractive the market we were into was, they forced us into signing an amendment to the contract where we allowed them to sell the A1 chips to third parties. Additionally, they even forced us to write formal excuse letters for the “false” accusations under the threat that if we hadn’t signed them, they would just delay the supply of the A1 chips so long that they would be worthless.
Once the first production lot of chips, with a delay of nearly two months and a performance 50% worse than promised was delivered to us, the issue of “yield” popped up. Innosilicon repeatedly delivered us broken chips or “junk grade” ones as part of the purchased (and paid for) lots, forcing us to place ever bigger and bigger orders in order to fulfill our customers’ orders and eventually draining out most of the company’s money. Out of all the ordered chips, a huge part of them were simply not working and could only be thrown away in the garbage bin. Here you will see for yourself the pictures of the piles of tens of thousands of worthless junk grade chips still sealed in their original packages. When asked about clarifications, they claimed this was “normal production yield” but failed to provide any relevant document that could certify it. It is also worth mentioning that while we were struggling with thousands of junk chips, the A-grade ones could at all time be purchased in Hong Kong directly from their Chinese resellers, at some point even at lower prices than what we ourselves paid for.
At the end of this horrific experience, we had paid to Innosilicon in 2013 and 2014 a total of more than 8 million CHF but received only a small amount of usable A1 chips, causing us a huge financial loss. Therefore, we enquired two different lawyers in order to evaluate legal actions against them, but ended up with answers that more or less said that the chances of getting our rights respected from a Chinese court against a local Chinese company were close to zero. We only later found out this is a common practice from Chinese companies, regardless of the written agreements you make with them. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_in_China)


http://bitmine.ch/


Innosilicon A1 was No. 1 btc Asic in 2014, independently developed by innosilicon, who subsequently developed A2 to A6 various leading performance mining asic in the world.  There has been zero legal issues whatsoever. It's well known Bitmine screwed up and didn't not know to do asic or miners. Innosilicon issued lengthy statement regarding bitmine with full explanation in bitcoin talk before, it's said and done for years!

Folks, it's easy to point finger, but remember, any spread of rumor or false allegation without proof is ill intended, wrong and subject to legal consequences.
Please provide link to "lengthy statement regarding bitmine with full explanation"
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February 01, 2018, 11:22:17 AM

Innosilicon A1 was No. 1 btc Asic in 2014, independently developed by innosilicon, who subsequently developed A2 to A6 various leading performance mining asic in the world.  There has been zero legal issues whatsoever. It's well known Bitmine screwed up and didn't not know to do asic or miners. Innosilicon issued lengthy statement regarding bitmine with full explanation in bitcoin talk before, it's said and done for years!

Folks, it's easy to point finger, but remember, any spread of rumor or false allegation without proof is ill intended, wrong and subject to legal consequences.

A5 quality is not good, and is suddenly burning,  that is why people who bought it started to find explanation, and shared that Bitmine link. 

Can you give a link to Innosilicon statement about Bitmine, please?
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Innosilicon ASIC official representative
January 31, 2018, 10:55:07 PM
Everybody should stay away from Innosilicon, due to it's long bad reputation, and extremely POOR quality of the chips and miners.

Below is a proof of their earlier unfair & lier behaviour.  

Look at bitmine.ch stolen technology, insolvency of bitmine.ch years ago, due to scams from Innosilicon:

Innosilicon. The company that we engaged for the development of our A1 CoinCraft chip ended up in being BITMINE’s biggest failure. We engaged this company with a regular contract and entitled them to develop our 28nm ASIC based on our know-how and instructions, along with the full turnkey process of creating the mask, wafers and IC packaging. We had signed a contract that was expecting to guarantee us a one year exclusivity on the chip, however at a later stage we received proof that Innosilicon was plainly violating the contract from day zero and selling our own A1 chips to whoever inquired them directly. Once we pointed this out, they simply stopped answering our enquiries and disappeared, putting us in obvious panic because we had an extremely tight schedule and obligation to deliver the miners on time and they knew that perfectly. So, once they knew how attractive the market we were into was, they forced us into signing an amendment to the contract where we allowed them to sell the A1 chips to third parties. Additionally, they even forced us to write formal excuse letters for the “false” accusations under the threat that if we hadn’t signed them, they would just delay the supply of the A1 chips so long that they would be worthless.
Once the first production lot of chips, with a delay of nearly two months and a performance 50% worse than promised was delivered to us, the issue of “yield” popped up. Innosilicon repeatedly delivered us broken chips or “junk grade” ones as part of the purchased (and paid for) lots, forcing us to place ever bigger and bigger orders in order to fulfill our customers’ orders and eventually draining out most of the company’s money. Out of all the ordered chips, a huge part of them were simply not working and could only be thrown away in the garbage bin. Here you will see for yourself the pictures of the piles of tens of thousands of worthless junk grade chips still sealed in their original packages. When asked about clarifications, they claimed this was “normal production yield” but failed to provide any relevant document that could certify it. It is also worth mentioning that while we were struggling with thousands of junk chips, the A-grade ones could at all time be purchased in Hong Kong directly from their Chinese resellers, at some point even at lower prices than what we ourselves paid for.
At the end of this horrific experience, we had paid to Innosilicon in 2013 and 2014 a total of more than 8 million CHF but received only a small amount of usable A1 chips, causing us a huge financial loss. Therefore, we enquired two different lawyers in order to evaluate legal actions against them, but ended up with answers that more or less said that the chances of getting our rights respected from a Chinese court against a local Chinese company were close to zero. We only later found out this is a common practice from Chinese companies, regardless of the written agreements you make with them. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_in_China)


http://bitmine.ch/


Innosilicon A1 was No. 1 btc Asic in 2014, independently developed by innosilicon, who subsequently developed A2 to A6 various leading performance mining asic in the world.  There has been zero legal issues whatsoever. It's well known Bitmine screwed up and didn't not know to do asic or miners. Innosilicon issued lengthy statement regarding bitmine with full explanation in bitcoin talk before, it's said and done for years!

Folks, it's easy to point finger, but remember, any spread of rumor or false allegation without proof is ill intended, wrong and subject to legal consequences.
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