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Quote from: Ziskinberg on May 01, 2022, 06:55:31 AM

the challenge here is on donaire, if he can prove that he has still something to offer to his fans one more time. but we don't know his plans if the turn of events for this match will be different. if he will win this match, definitely, inoue's camp will ask for another fight. but if he will lose, high likely that donaire will hang up his gloves unless, he will find another good reason to fight. but for me, win or lose on this fight, he should hang up and enjoy his life while he can.

I read in one local sports article in the Philippines Domaire says that in their first fight he just go there to brawl with Inoue but this time he has a plan to beat Inoue, I think he will go prepared for this fight with a sure plan because he tasted Inoue's power but Inoue also tasted his power and he is fully aware on Donaire's last two fights where he won decisively,
He knows that he will face a new Donaire I'm sure his team will also come with their own plan, its a battle of plan on who has a better plan.

I like that, Donaire has to be very careful in using his power as he might get exhausted again in the end. This is a big chance for Donaire to avenge his loss and prove to the world that his career is not over, I'm so excited now upon reading the news you shared, I feel like this would not be a one sided fight.

It's good to see that Donaire still has that composure, it's very important to set plans before stepping inside the ring.

I agree that the first time they've met he just attack and try to bring down Inoue the soonest that he can, but unfortunately,

he didn't manage to KO but instead he loss his stamina and in the few remaining rounds we have seen that he don't have

that power to take Inoue down, but this time, he will be more careful and prepared, making it more harder for Inoue, expecting

to see more greatness among these two fighters. Wink

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Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.

Adding to that, he will be retiring with a great pride if he beats Inoue on their rematch.

That's another accomplishment adding to his name, another belt to be added. We never know what would be his
next move after this upcoming fight.

Whether he win or lose, if his camp decided to retire, there's nothing to ask from him. He gives the pride to our
country and he will always be remembered as one of pinoys pride from this sport.

Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match.
Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat.

He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight.

Or maybe his decision defends the outcome of the fight, just like MP, when he won against Thurman, he still look for a bigger fight, trying to push his limit, but when he lose, he decided to retire, so maybe that's the same scenario we will be seeing after this fight if Donaire wins.

Donaire's situation is not that that the same as Manny Pacquiao's situation back when he is still doing fights because Donaire will be an ordinary man if he decides to hang his gloves while the latter has been more into the world of politics that's why he decided to retire specially that time because he was already a senator in the Philippines, IIRC.

Anyways, Donaire needs to decide after this fight no matter if he win or lose and if he will still pursue his career even though he is not getting any younger. He is already vulnerable unlike these young boxers who's recover and healing process is somehow shorter.

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Quote from: robelneo on May 02, 2022, 08:29:59 AM

the challenge here is on donaire, if he can prove that he has still something to offer to his fans one more time. but we don't know his plans if the turn of events for this match will be different. if he will win this match, definitely, inoue's camp will ask for another fight. but if he will lose, high likely that donaire will hang up his gloves unless, he will find another good reason to fight. but for me, win or lose on this fight, he should hang up and enjoy his life while he can.

I read in one local sports article in the Philippines Domaire says that in their first fight he just go there to brawl with Inoue but this time he has a plan to beat Inoue, I think he will go prepared for this fight with a sure plan because he tasted Inoue's power but Inoue also tasted his power and he is fully aware on Donaire's last two fights where he won decisively,
He knows that he will face a new Donaire I'm sure his team will also come with their own plan, its a battle of plan on who has a better plan.

I like that, Donaire has to be very careful in using his power as he might get exhausted again in the end. This is a big chance for Donaire to avenge his loss and prove to the world that his career is not over, I'm so excited now upon reading the news you shared, I feel like this would not be a one sided fight.

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the challenge here is on donaire, if he can prove that he has still something to offer to his fans one more time. but we don't know his plans if the turn of events for this match will be different. if he will win this match, definitely, inoue's camp will ask for another fight. but if he will lose, high likely that donaire will hang up his gloves unless, he will find another good reason to fight. but for me, win or lose on this fight, he should hang up and enjoy his life while he can.

I read in one local sports article in the Philippines Domaire says that in their first fight he just go there to brawl with Inoue but this time he has a plan to beat Inoue, I think he will go prepared for this fight with a sure plan because he tasted Inoue's power but Inoue also tasted his power and he is fully aware on Donaire's last two fights where he won decisively,
He knows that he will face a new Donaire I'm sure his team will also come with their own plan, its a battle of plan on who has a better plan.

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Quote from: passwordnow on May 01, 2022, 03:50:21 PM

Yeah, he can also promise to himself that any result would be lightly going to be accepted by him. He just have to enjoy this as it could be his last match.
But I know, there's pride in being a fighter and he won't allow Inoue to win for the second time and at least the tie breaker for their score would be delighting for him already.

the challenge here is on donaire, if he can prove that he has still something to offer to his fans one more time. but we don't know his plans if the turn of events for this match will be different. if he will win this match, definitely, inoue's camp will ask for another fight. but if he will lose, high likely that donaire will hang up his gloves unless, he will find another good reason to fight. but for me, win or lose on this fight, he should hang up and enjoy his life while he can.

Well if that happens, when Inoue's camp asks for a rematch then it is on Donaire's decision if he's the one being asked and had won the upcoming match. Well, it is all speculation that we have.
Everything is possible when it is about the outcome. Whoever wins will definitely take the advantage.

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Quote from: passwordnow on April 30, 2022, 10:40:50 AM

Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match.
Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat.

He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight.

Yeah, he can also promise to himself that any result would be lightly going to be accepted by him. He just have to enjoy this as it could be his last match.
But I know, there's pride in being a fighter and he won't allow Inoue to win for the second time and at least the tie breaker for their score would be delighting for him already.

the challenge here is on donaire, if he can prove that he has still something to offer to his fans one more time. but we don't know his plans if the turn of events for this match will be different. if he will win this match, definitely, inoue's camp will ask for another fight. but if he will lose, high likely that donaire will hang up his gloves unless, he will find another good reason to fight. but for me, win or lose on this fight, he should hang up and enjoy his life while he can.

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Quote from: passwordnow on April 30, 2022, 10:40:50 AM

Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match.
Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat.

He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight.

Yeah, he can also promise to himself that any result would be lightly going to be accepted by him. He just have to enjoy this as it could be his last match.
But I know, there's pride in being a fighter and he won't allow Inoue to win for the second time and at least the tie breaker for their score would be delighting for him already.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on May 01, 2022, 02:30:43 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on May 01, 2022, 06:55:31 AM

Or maybe his decision defends the outcome of the fight, just like MP, when he won against Thurman, he still look for a bigger fight, trying to push his limit, but when he lose, he decided to retire, so maybe that's the same scenario we will be seeing after this fight if Donaire wins.

Why retire if he can make good money continuing to fight? Likewise, it will be depends on the outcome and the decision

of his camp, who knows he will win and push this to trilogy, that's something interesting for the fans, and for sure the organization and

the gambling industry will embrace that possibility with a wide open arms. They can make more money from those fans who wanted to

see if who between Inoue and Donaire will be the top fighter from this division.

Everything wont end up in talks of money but knowing Donaire he would come after for the glory and ever if Donaire would win this rematch then high possibility that this one would go for Trilogy

and its true that boxing is business which they could really sip out as much as they could but actually this goes for honor specially knowing on what kind of boxer Inoue and Donaire is.

Its true that as long they could fight then age issue wont really be that much of a hindrance and stopping will be mostly on personal type of choice and not basing on what
team is dictating.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on May 01, 2022, 06:55:31 AM

Or maybe his decision defends the outcome of the fight, just like MP, when he won against Thurman, he still look for a bigger fight, trying to push his limit, but when he lose, he decided to retire, so maybe that's the same scenario we will be seeing after this fight if Donaire wins.

Why retire if he can make good money continuing to fight? Likewise, it will be depends on the outcome and the decision

of his camp, who knows he will win and push this to trilogy, that's something interesting for the fans, and for sure the organization and

the gambling industry will embrace that possibility with a wide open arms. They can make more money from those fans who wanted to

see if who between Inoue and Donaire will be the top fighter from this division.

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Quote from: passwordnow on April 29, 2022, 11:05:05 AM

Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.

Adding to that, he will be retiring with a great pride if he beats Inoue on their rematch.

That's another accomplishment adding to his name, another belt to be added. We never know what would be his
next move after this upcoming fight.

Whether he win or lose, if his camp decided to retire, there's nothing to ask from him. He gives the pride to our
country and he will always be remembered as one of pinoys pride from this sport.

Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match.
Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat.

He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight.

Or maybe his decision defends the outcome of the fight, just like MP, when he won against Thurman, he still look for a bigger fight, trying to push his limit, but when he lose, he decided to retire, so maybe that's the same scenario we will be seeing after this fight if Donaire wins.

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Quote from: passwordnow on April 29, 2022, 11:05:05 AM

Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.

Adding to that, he will be retiring with a great pride if he beats Inoue on their rematch.

That's another accomplishment adding to his name, another belt to be added. We never know what would be his
next move after this upcoming fight.

Whether he win or lose, if his camp decided to retire, there's nothing to ask from him. He gives the pride to our
country and he will always be remembered as one of pinoys pride from this sport.

Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match.
Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat.

He has to make a decision before this fight, regardless of the outcome, it's good that he will retire so he can enjoy his retirement. We know that when a boxer is not getting any younger, he will be prone to injury, and Inoue is at his prime, a heavy puncher, I hope Donaire will have a good movement so he will not be hurt badly in case he will again lose in this fight.

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Quote from: passwordnow on April 29, 2022, 11:05:05 AM

Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.

Adding to that, he will be retiring with a great pride if he beats Inoue on their rematch.

That's another accomplishment adding to his name, another belt to be added. We never know what would be his
next move after this upcoming fight.

Whether he win or lose, if his camp decided to retire, there's nothing to ask from him. He gives the pride to our
country and he will always be remembered as one of pinoys pride from this sport.

Yup, that's self-esteem to him and at least he's able to beat Inoue. He's one of the best boxers that I've ever known too. In this upcoming match, most fans are going to think that it's really his last match.
Whether it approves or disapproves, all of his fans are going to like what he's done for his entire career. And he's going to retire with happiness, maybe even in defeat.

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Donaire should continue to work harder, if he have train hard in his previous fight, he has to double it as Inoue as a monster is a different animal.

There's no doubt that he's doing it. He's a responsible and dedicated one and that's for sure that he's doubling his work at his training now. The discipline that he's putting into his training is a must.
This is like his last match before he retires so basically, he's going to give his all in on this match if not then he can still continue with another one win before he announces retirement.

Yeah, for sure he had trained harder before, but Inoue is too much for him. But after his lost, Donaire has bounce back and then won a belt.

So if Donaire is thinking about retiring, then definitely he wanted to end it with a good note and hopefully he can beat the best boxers in their division. Because he has done that during his prime and it seems that he has gotten his second wind. So he will focus more and train hard for this Inoue, if he falls short again, maybe time for him to retire for good.

I think regardless of the outcome of this match, he has to retire already. I mean, if he wants to retire as a champion and he is lucky to beat Inoue, then that's it because there's no other best boxer in that division than Inoue. However, if he loss and think of bouncing back, I think it's not a good idea since it will take time to have a chance to fight Inoue which he is not getting any younger anymore.

I do agree, it's time for Inoue to retire because he has been in many wars already, brings glory to him and his family and to the Philippines. Maybe this is one challenge that he need to take as a boxer before hanging his gloves. And it ever he wins, there are a lot of young fighters that will come after him and we don't want to see him getting brutally knock out at the end of his career. He can passed the torched to many Filipino fighters, he has done his share, him and Manny Pacquaio.

You mean Donaire to consider retirement if he will beat Inoue this time.

I also agree with that because he is already old enough to do some exhausting preparations prior to the fight and he should really give some way for other young aspiring Filipino boxers like Casimero, Magsayo and etc. Pacquaio passed down his torch to him and know I think it is time to pass that same torch again. But let's consider that he indeed beat Inoue, I think that the latter will force some way for a trilogy though.

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Quote from: passwordnow on April 29, 2022, 11:05:05 AM

Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.

Adding to that, he will be retiring with a great pride if he beats Inoue on their rematch.

That's another accomplishment adding to his name, another belt to be added. We never know what would be his
next move after this upcoming fight.

Whether he win or lose, if his camp decided to retire, there's nothing to ask from him. He gives the pride to our
country and he will always be remembered as one of pinoys pride from this sport.

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Quote from: Natalim on April 28, 2022, 07:44:38 AM

Donaire should continue to work harder, if he have train hard in his previous fight, he has to double it as Inoue as a monster is a different animal.

There's no doubt that he's doing it. He's a responsible and dedicated one and that's for sure that he's doubling his work at his training now. The discipline that he's putting into his training is a must.
This is like his last match before he retires so basically, he's going to give his all in on this match if not then he can still continue with another one win before he announces retirement.

Yeah, for sure he had trained harder before, but Inoue is too much for him. But after his lost, Donaire has bounce back and then won a belt.

So if Donaire is thinking about retiring, then definitely he wanted to end it with a good note and hopefully he can beat the best boxers in their division. Because he has done that during his prime and it seems that he has gotten his second wind. So he will focus more and train hard for this Inoue, if he falls short again, maybe time for him to retire for good.

Yes, no one wants to end his boxing career in retirement just after a loss and he wants a grand ending before his retirement.
But psychologically, whether he wins or loses and he's really into that decision of retiring. No one can stop him but it's just a better result if he wins against Inoue so that at least they have a 1-1 record and a win for his retirement.

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The only disadvantage of Donaire's age is his stamina not his speed nor power, no one can doubt that because his oxygen tank slowly depletes as he grow older and so does the other boxers. What he lacks is the stamina to go all the way until round 12 without getting so weary because Inoue can still dance in the late rounds and that's the time where Inoue will summon all his strengths to take down the aging Donaire, I agreee Donaire's only choice is to be more aggressive and more accurate in the punches in the early rounds.

It is such a shame that we do not get to see Donaire fighting at his prime otherwise this fight could have a great chance of becoming the fight of the year, but still it is nice that we get to see the fight happen at all, and without a doubt the biggest obstacle for Donaire to win this fight will be his stamina, Donaire needs to accumulate enough advantage over Inoue during the first 9 rounds of the fight and if he cannot do it then Inoue will most likely win the fight by taking advantage of his superior stamina.

We can't do about that already as it was already in the past, the important thing is that Donaire is still improving to be the best despite of his age. I'm not seeing Donaire's age as an disadvantage because he still capable to knockout someone who will get caught in his punches.

Both have already have the knowledge on what needed to be improved and I think we will see a different version of them. As for power and speed, they don't have that much gap but the difference is that Inoue can take the punches while faking that he didn't felt anything of it and ofcourse their stamina level.

Yes, both will adjust. Even Inoue beats Donaire from their last match for sure he manages to watch the latest win of Donaire.

And his camp will adjust to what possible strategy Donaire may use against them, in terms of Donaire, he already tastes the killer punches

of Inoue and with that, he needs to save up his stamina. Age may not be the problem, as looking with that last fight, Donaire still has

the kind of movement that can stand and possible in beating even the furious Inoue.

Indeed mate, Inoue's victory on their first encounter will not be an assurance that he can still defeat the version of Donaire now because the latter still continues to improve despite with his age and that defeat he tasted last time against Inoue will be his motivation now so that specific encounter will not happen again this time as sure he have learned some lessons for that. Both have improve and prepared well for this second encounter, I'm excited though.

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I think regardless of the outcome of this match, he has to retire already. I mean, if he wants to retire as a champion and he is lucky to beat Inoue, then that's it because there's no other best boxer in that division than Inoue. However, if he loss and think of bouncing back, I think it's not a good idea since it will take time to have a chance to fight Inoue which he is not getting any younger anymore.

I do agree, it's time for Inoue to retire because he has been in many wars already, brings glory to him and his family and to the Philippines. Maybe this is one challenge that he need to take as a boxer before hanging his gloves. And it ever he wins, there are a lot of young fighters that will come after him and we don't want to see him getting brutally knock out at the end of his career. He can passed the torched to many Filipino fighters, he has done his share, him and Manny Pacquaio.

It is always sad seeing old fighters especially the legends being beaten by the up and coming young fighters. Most especially those fighters you think will definitely lose to those legends prime years. Donaire losing to Magdaleno? There's no way a prime Donaire would lost to that young gun. Inoue would've been an underdog against prime Donaire. There are a lot of examples from Rosendo Alvarez to heavyweight's Evander Holyfield. It is either money problems which prompted them to fight like Antonio Tarver or simply they just cannot easily moved on that they are too old for this hurting game like Roy Jones Jr.

@Dave1, I think there's a type error, do you mean Donaire would retire?
Inoue will not retire because he is only in his prime years, and he will definitely achieve more, this fight favors him so much because it's a unification fight and Inoue had already beat Donaire in their first meeting. Though I like to see Donaire win this fight, but man, I cannot be bias as I know how good Inoue is.

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I think regardless of the outcome of this match, he has to retire already. I mean, if he wants to retire as a champion and he is lucky to beat Inoue, then that's it because there's no other best boxer in that division than Inoue. However, if he loss and think of bouncing back, I think it's not a good idea since it will take time to have a chance to fight Inoue which he is not getting any younger anymore.

I do agree, it's time for Inoue to retire because he has been in many wars already, brings glory to him and his family and to the Philippines. Maybe this is one challenge that he need to take as a boxer before hanging his gloves. And it ever he wins, there are a lot of young fighters that will come after him and we don't want to see him getting brutally knock out at the end of his career. He can passed the torched to many Filipino fighters, he has done his share, him and Manny Pacquaio.

It is always sad seeing old fighters especially the legends being beaten by the up and coming young fighters. Most especially those fighters you think will definitely lose to those legends prime years. Donaire losing to Magdaleno? There's no way a prime Donaire would lost to that young gun. Inoue would've been an underdog against prime Donaire. There are a lot of examples from Rosendo Alvarez to heavyweight's Evander Holyfield. It is either money problems which prompted them to fight like Antonio Tarver or simply they just cannot easily moved on that they are too old for this hurting game like Roy Jones Jr.

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