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It just keeps getting better and better------------  IRS Chief Admits: WH Wrong that Scandal Was Just 'Rogue Agents'
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Former IRS Attorney Donated $12,831 to Democrats



Former IRS attorney Jennifer O’Connor, who now works in the White House Counsel’s office, donated a total of $12,831 to Democrat candidates and parties between 2008 and 2012, which included donations to the Barack Obama campaign and to the Hillary Clinton campaign, according to records from OpenSecrets.gov.

O’Connor made headlines when she evaded questions about the IRS-Tea Party scandal at a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing on Tuesday, June 24.

Oversight Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) subpoenaed O’Connor to testify after the White House initially declined to make her available on a voluntary basis.

According to testimony from the IRS chief counsel Neil Eggleston, O’Connor was hired by the IRS for the sole purpose of overseeing the agency’s response to congressional investigations of the IRS targeting scandal.

O’Connor, who now works in the White House Counsel Office, was an IRS attorney, a former Clinton administration aide, and a former attorney at WilmerHale, a prominent legal firm with offices worldwide. While at WilmerHale, O’Connor donated $12,831 to Democrat candidates and parties, according to Open Secrets records.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meyer/former-irs-attorney-donated-12831-democrats


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"Not Even A Smidgen Of Corruption..."

legendary
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MF Global losing billions and NO ONE was jailed for this.
http://fortune.com/2013/11/15/how-mf-globals-missing-1-5-billion-was-lost-and-found/

Former DEMOCRAT New Jersey governor Jon Corzine
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/former_gov_jon_corzine_was_amo.html
http://americanthinker.com/blog/2012/04/jon_corzine_still_bundling_cash_for_obama.html



While you read those articles, don't forget you may go to jail and lose everything if you can't get that lonely receipt the IRS is asking you to provide, asking to justify your bitcoins, but for them to go to jail? Never.





DrG
legendary
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Maybe the emails were in the same hard drive as those missing ones from the "phony" Solyndra scandal.

You know what, that's probably right.  Let's host all these phony scandals and their associated emails on one drive, and it will overheat due to GOP promoting phony scandals... head crash in 3 2 1
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What happened to all those execs at ENRON who "lost" emails which they knew incriminated them?

aren't they still in jail?
there was very clear evidence that people were destroying documents in the case of Enron. The GOP in congress is trying to find this evidence while the obama administration is trying to prevent them from looking
legendary
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Hopefully our Conservative American Patriots will match and even surpass the disgusting Collectivist Liberals dirty tricks!

We are at war with this internal Liberal Enemy. Anyone who believes otherwise is doomed to be easily defeated.

History may show in the future that it was Obama who destroyed his own Administration by tolerating the death by a thousand crimes and corruption within it. Thankfully, the Liberals have now lost all credibility with the American voters according to the latest polls.

Managed correctly, our Congressional Tea Party Patriots may be capable of shutting down any of their added Economy destruction.

Actually, it is necessary for the fraction of the Liberals, which is honest and sincere, to team up with the fraction of the Conservatives that share those attributes.  This is an overwhelming majority, but many forces will work against it, and attempt to splinter it into warring factions.

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What happened to all those execs at ENRON who "lost" emails which they knew incriminated them?

aren't they still in jail?
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We need merely wait to hear which Criminal Operatives go to long, LONG, Federal Prison terms...

...OR...

We know the current Insider Republicans are complicit in these Felony, Federal Crimes...

and write all of them off as Enemies of Americans! This is a now defined, Rogue, Anti-American, Agency, we MUST eliminate or be crushed under its weight. The IRS will survive, "OR" the USA will survive...

EITHER one we prefer.
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I suspect the super snoopy facility in Utah probably has everything.

You know, many years ago, when I was 19, the IRS sent me a rather large refund check that actually belonged to someone else... someone else who shares the same name as I.

This was long before I developed my current, bitter loathing of Unka sam and his minions.  I took the refund check down to the local irs goon squad lair, waited in line a long, long time and finally found myself face to face with a irs demon.

I said, "Hi!  I got this refund check yesterday but it's not mine.  I filed my return months ago and have already received my refund.  I think it belongs to someone else with my name."

Demon replied that it was unlikely that the check did not belong to me.  I repeated my story.  Eventually, demon took the check and said, "It's a good thing you didn't keep it.  We would have figured it out eventually and you would have been in big trouble."
This is just another reason why we need the fair tax to eliminate the IRS and the concept that the government has a right to take as much of your income as they want. The fair tax removes their power and the ability for them to abuse it. But it removes the power of congress to pick your pocket which is another good reason for the fair tax.
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I suspect the super snoopy facility in Utah probably has everything.

You know, many years ago, when I was 19, the IRS sent me a rather large refund check that actually belonged to someone else... someone else who shares the same name as I.

This was long before I developed my current, bitter loathing of Unka sam and his minions.  I took the refund check down to the local irs goon squad lair, waited in line a long, long time and finally found myself face to face with a irs demon.

I said, "Hi!  I got this refund check yesterday but it's not mine.  I filed my return months ago and have already received my refund.  I think it belongs to someone else with my name."

Demon replied that it was unlikely that the check did not belong to me.  I repeated my story.  Eventually, demon took the check and said, "It's a good thing you didn't keep it.  We would have figured it out eventually and you would have been in big trouble."
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'Recycled' is now the word for 'destroyed?'  Can a citizen say that to the IRS when they are demanding documents from them???

Ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s crashed hard drive has been recycled, making it likely the lost emails of the lightening rod in the tea party targeting controversy will never be found, according to multiple sources.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/irs-lois-lerner-emails-108044.html#ixzz355FlDpiG
"Apparently the Obama administration can recover emails just about as well as they can the economy."

Actually this is typical for someone who is lying and committing crimes… They become more blatant in their actions…
You have to remember, when she said people would kill her… If she was right, destroying the emails would be nothing in comparison to that…
Meaning, if they would kill her they would destroy the emails also…
The corruption run deep in Washington.
And the useful idiots don't care
sr. member
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 'Recycled' is now the word for 'destroyed?'  Can a citizen say that to the IRS when they are demanding documents from them???

Ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s crashed hard drive has been recycled, making it likely the lost emails of the lightening rod in the tea party targeting controversy will never be found, according to multiple sources.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/irs-lois-lerner-emails-108044.html#ixzz355FlDpiG
sr. member
Activity: 994
Merit: 441
Hopefully our Conservative American Patriots will match and even surpass the disgusting Collectivist Liberals dirty tricks!

We are at war with this internal Liberal Enemy. Anyone who believes otherwise is doomed to be easily defeated.

History may show in the future that it was Obama who destroyed his own Administration by tolerating the death by a thousand crimes and corruption within it. Thankfully, the Liberals have now lost all credibility with the American voters according to the latest polls.

Managed correctly, our Congressional Tea Party Patriots may be capable of shutting down any of their added Economy destruction.
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I can categorically state that Lois Lerner's emails on any US government computer are backed up on tape, daily, and the tapes stored in a mine in Pennsylvania that you could house a small city in. This is SOP for the past twenty years.  Now we've learned that everyone in that time period that she emailed ALSO had a mysterious computer crash that deleted ALL of THEIR emails.
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Yes, they do think they can get away with it....that includes Obama.  He has been given a pass for 6 years now, so why wouldn't he believe he can get away with this abuse of power and more lies now?
You know in all reality, Obama had the most corrupt administration right off the bat, how many members of his cabinet were cheating on their taxes?
Do we have any wonder what is going on now.
They may have the votes in the house now to impeach him…
Granted convicting him is another story but if this plays out, I guess as they told Nixon, there would be two Senate seats that wouldn't vote for conviction, because they were vacant at the time.
It could reach the point to where not to vote for conviction would be absolute political suicide
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Those claiming the e-mails are lost are political animals, not IT people, so they didn't realize that the e-mails in question still exist, and probably in several places.

I work for a relatively small county government as well as the State of Georgia. I have email accounts with them as well as the US Department of Defense and of course my personal account from my ISP. Not a single email I send or receive resides on the hard drive of any computer I use. They are received and stored on mail servers that stand alone from the other computers. They all have back up systems as well, kind of like Carbonite or other similar services. There is no way any of the emails can be lost unless a failure of several components of the system all crash simultaneously or IT professionals intentionally delete them, a process that involves more than hitting the "delete" button. Accidentally deleted data, including mail traffic, on those drives can usually be retrieved with very little effort according to the IT guys I have asked. And to expect anyone to believe that 2 whole years worth of traffic was lost is just incredible. This story is so much bullshit.
The issue is that, at the time that her hard drive crashed the emails were stored on "tape" backups that have a limited amount of storage capacity. These backups held all of the emails at the IRS. What should have been done is the data from the temporary tape backups should have been used to recover her lost emails when her computer crashed. They were not used and the data was eventually overwritten.

And that explanation still holds for the other 6 individuals with their hard drive crashing, losing that same 2 year period?  Roll Eyes

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Those claiming the e-mails are lost are political animals, not IT people, so they didn't realize that the e-mails in question still exist, and probably in several places.

I work for a relatively small county government as well as the State of Georgia. I have email accounts with them as well as the US Department of Defense and of course my personal account from my ISP. Not a single email I send or receive resides on the hard drive of any computer I use. They are received and stored on mail servers that stand alone from the other computers. They all have back up systems as well, kind of like Carbonite or other similar services. There is no way any of the emails can be lost unless a failure of several components of the system all crash simultaneously or IT professionals intentionally delete them, a process that involves more than hitting the "delete" button. Accidentally deleted data, including mail traffic, on those drives can usually be retrieved with very little effort according to the IT guys I have asked. And to expect anyone to believe that 2 whole years worth of traffic was lost is just incredible. This story is so much bullshit.
The issue is that, at the time that her hard drive crashed the emails were stored on "tape" backups that have a limited amount of storage capacity. These backups held all of the emails at the IRS. What should have been done is the data from the temporary tape backups should have been used to recover her lost emails when her computer crashed. They were not used and the data was eventually overwritten.
legendary
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We're making progress....my ass.

The very government that he believes can unite and lift the American people out of poverty, racial strife and lower quality of living can't even follow it's own guidelines for how to maintain data.  I'm not asking the IRS to go above and beyond.  How come they can't be held to the same standards as a small business with 50 employees.

Dereliction of duty...progress in his eyes.
So what do you read into this, and how do we move forward?

There will be a lot of people who think the problems are Obama-centric, so they will vote for non-Obama Democratic presidential candidates.

There will be people who think the problem is Democrats, and that they will solve the problem by voting Republican.

There will be people who think the problems are with organized criminal activity in DC which have corrupted both major parties.

Then finally, there are people who think that it is deeper than that and involves power shifts between the NSA and various agencies, including the US, and these work with politicians who they favor and who favor them.

Personally I believe the problem is a totally corrupt administration and this originates with Obama, but that it could well continue and get worse under the next administration if that was Democrat.

But I am not positive...

Unfortunately I think the cancer is too entrenched into the body of American politics.....
Although that may have always been true, the Obama lawlessness is quite certainly a new thing.  I believe the danger is that it may continue or get worse after he leaves office.   The country can withstand eight years of his abuse of power, but if it were the "new reality", that would require some pondering over as to it's consequences for the individual.
DrG
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We're making progress....my ass.

The very government that he believes can unite and lift the American people out of poverty, racial strife and lower quality of living can't even follow it's own guidelines for how to maintain data.  I'm not asking the IRS to go above and beyond.  How come they can't be held to the same standards as a small business with 50 employees.

Dereliction of duty...progress in his eyes.
So what do you read into this, and how do we move forward?

There will be a lot of people who think the problems are Obama-centric, so they will vote for non-Obama Democratic presidential candidates.

There will be people who think the problem is Democrats, and that they will solve the problem by voting Republican.

There will be people who think the problems are with organized criminal activity in DC which have corrupted both major parties.

Then finally, there are people who think that it is deeper than that and involves power shifts between the NSA and various agencies, including the US, and these work with politicians who they favor and who favor them.

Personally I believe the problem is a totally corrupt administration and this originates with Obama, but that it could well continue and get worse under the next administration if that was Democrat.

But I am not positive...

Unfortunately I think the cancer is too entrenched into the body of American politics.  Either it will take some serious surgical resection from a true reformist (who would be obstructed at every step) or the next puppet will be placed in by his party - parties that oppose each other but are funded by the same superpowers.  I live in California, and the supermajority belongs to Democrats - Republics don't have 1 major office in this state.  And yet big oil, large corporations like Coca Cola, and huge SuperPACs find themselves spending insane amounts of money.  They're fighting over power within "themselves".

You can't fix the problem is Americans look the other way.  The day they know the words to the Preamble or the Gettsyburg address rather than their favorite new popsong maybe things will change.  With "democracy" you get the government you deserve (problem is we're more like an oligarchy now).
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We're making progress....my ass.

The very government that he believes can unite and lift the American people out of poverty, racial strife and lower quality of living can't even follow it's own guidelines for how to maintain data.  I'm not asking the IRS to go above and beyond.  How come they can't be held to the same standards as a small business with 50 employees.

Dereliction of duty...progress in his eyes.
So what do you read into this, and how do we move forward?

There will be a lot of people who think the problems are Obama-centric, so they will vote for non-Obama Democratic presidential candidates.

There will be people who think the problem is Democrats, and that they will solve the problem by voting Republican.

There will be people who think the problems are with organized criminal activity in DC which have corrupted both major parties.

Then finally, there are people who think that it is deeper than that and involves power shifts between the NSA and various agencies, including the US, and these work with politicians who they favor and who favor them.

Personally I believe the problem is a totally corrupt administration and this originates with Obama, but that it could well continue and get worse under the next administration if that was Democrat.

But I am not positive...

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle of it all. Both parties have corrupt people in their ranks and those people seem to have leadership positions. Obama is just off the reservation and seems to think he is smarter than everyone else. Hopefully the younger generation of liberty minded republicans can step up. We need these criminals out of power.
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