Topic: IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner - page 16. (Read 22699 times)
June 24, 2014, 03:43:08 PM
At first I thought this was a partisan hack job, but the more I hear about it, I honestly wonder if they Republicans might be on to something. It is entirely disturbing to me that the agency that is capable of wrecking your financial life if you do not save proper documentation for something like 7 years relies on a single hard drive to store important communications. Whether this is pure incompetence of malfeasance, it reeks either way.
June 24, 2014, 03:08:08 PM
IRS Admits Guilt in Illegal Release of Conservative Group’s Tax Information
The IRS has agreed to pay $50,000 in damages to the National Organization for Marriage (NOM) for unlawfully releasing its private information to a gay rights group that is a political rival, the Daily Signal has learned.
NOM expressed relief at the settlement agreement.
“Congress made the disclosure of confidential tax return information a serious matter for a reason,” NOM chairman John D. Eastman told The Daily Signal. “We’re delighted that the IRS has now been held accountable for the illegal disclosure of our list of major donors from our tax return.”
http://freebeacon.com/issues/irs-admits-guilt-in-illegal-release-of-conservative-groups-tax-information/
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IRS uses tax payer's money, thus admitting guilt to pay their victim. No one goes to jail. Amazing.
June 24, 2014, 02:42:34 PM
"Not a smidgen of corruption….."
U.S. Archivist: IRS "Did Not Follow The Law" On Lerner Emails
In testimony before the House Oversight Committee, United States Archivist David Ferriero was asked directly if the Internal Revenue Service disobeyed the law by failing to archive electronic communications and destroying the evidence of those communications. Ferriero conceded that the IRS did not follow the Federal Records Act.
On Tuesday, Rep. Tim Walberg (R-MI) asked Ferriero if the IRS had reported the loss of two years’ of former executive Lois Lerner’s emails prior to disclosing that this month.
“No,” Ferriero replied.
When asked if the IRS violated the Federal Records Act, Ferriero said that the law requires every federal agency to notify the Archives if they determine they have lost records. He did, however, refuse to say whether the agency broke the law because he was not an attorney.
“If they didn’t follow [the Federal Records Act], can we safely assume they broke the law?” Walberg asked.
“They did not follow the law,” Ferriero replied.
http://youtu.be/8QtPqYtDjNs
June 24, 2014, 11:45:42 AM
Since it's obvious that this is some sort of coverup that would require two years of emails needed for the investigation to be wiped out at multiple levels, why do you think such a thing would be done? I'm not saying it goes straight to the president, but it would stand to reason that it goes pretty high up the food chain, don't you think? Otherwise, how and why would it be done?
There is no evidence of a cover-up at this point, though that may later be determined. So assigning blame to an unproven charge is, may i suggest, not very honest.You seem to prefer we know the emails are missing...conspiracy!
Even you have got to know there is no way these emails can be lost, and even you have to know how convenient it is for the salient emails to suddenly become unavailable when the subpoena arrives, after having been promised if subpoenaed. And even you have to know there wouldn't be a coverup if one wasn't needed to protect this administration.
June 24, 2014, 11:33:48 AM
Since it's obvious that this is some sort of coverup that would require two years of emails needed for the investigation to be wiped out at multiple levels, why do you think such a thing would be done? I'm not saying it goes straight to the president, but it would stand to reason that it goes pretty high up the food chain, don't you think? Otherwise, how and why would it be done?
There is no evidence of a cover-up at this point, though that may later be determined. So assigning blame to an unproven charge is, may i suggest, not very honest.You seem to prefer we know the emails are missing...conspiracy!
June 24, 2014, 11:28:47 AM
Since it's obvious that this is some sort of coverup that would require two years of emails needed for the investigation to be wiped out at multiple levels, why do you think such a thing would be done? I'm not saying it goes straight to the president, but it would stand to reason that it goes pretty high up the food chain, don't you think? Otherwise, how and why would it be done?
There is no evidence of a cover-up at this point, though that may later be determined. So assigning blame to an unproven charge is, may i suggest, not very honest. June 24, 2014, 11:26:20 AM
Since it's obvious that this is some sort of coverup that would require two years of emails needed for the investigation to be wiped out at multiple levels, why do you think such a thing would be done? I'm not saying it goes straight to the president, but it would stand to reason that it goes pretty high up the food chain, don't you think? Otherwise, how and why would it be done?
There is no evidence of a cover-up at this point, though that may later be determined. So assigning blame to an unproven charge is, may i suggest, not very honest. June 24, 2014, 11:19:40 AM
Since it's obvious that this is some sort of coverup that would require two years of emails needed for the investigation to be wiped out at multiple levels, why do you think such a thing would be done? I'm not saying it goes straight to the president, but it would stand to reason that it goes pretty high up the food chain, don't you think? Otherwise, how and why would it be done?
June 24, 2014, 10:12:05 AM
June 24, 2014, 09:47:10 AM
Agree, we shouldn't stand for it, but the Obama regime believes it will get a pass on this. Haven't the media, and his supporters like Jim, defended him from years. From IRS, Benghazi, F&F, Syria, Ukraine, and now Iraq. Nothing is EVER his fault. Time to hold his sorry a$$ accountable. He needs to get his a$$ back to DC and start to address these issues....instead he is out on the golf course.
I am 100% in favor of the facts coming out...all the time. As of today there is absolutely zero connection of the administration and the President to Lois Lerner's lost e-mail. Your assumptions to the opposite are childish and laughable.As for playing golf, so too did George Bush while we were at war.
If, Obama is so disrespected, so ignored by those under him that he has NOTHING to do with these emails, what the hell is his job? There is nothing you won't say he isn't responsible for, so why are we paying his ignorant ass a salary if he's responsible for nothing under the blanket of his beyond incompetent leadership?
There are emails, that have already been discovered that went directly to the White House counsel.
What is he responsible for is finding out the facts when government fails to function effectively. In the case of the IRS that means finding those "missing" emails or holding people accountable. That I do expect from a president.
Thing is, you don't know the difference when you hate OBAMA, SO YOU WANT HIM BLAMED IF IT RAINS OR IF IT DOESN'T RAIN.
Simple, just not too bright.
So based on that logic, Nixon was as responsible for Watergate as he was for NOT being good at Locksmithing...?
Some people do believe obama is not too smart without a telepromter
June 24, 2014, 09:11:49 AM
Agree, we shouldn't stand for it, but the Obama regime believes it will get a pass on this. Haven't the media, and his supporters like Jim, defended him from years. From IRS, Benghazi, F&F, Syria, Ukraine, and now Iraq. Nothing is EVER his fault. Time to hold his sorry a$$ accountable. He needs to get his a$$ back to DC and start to address these issues....instead he is out on the golf course.
I am 100% in favor of the facts coming out...all the time. As of today there is absolutely zero connection of the administration and the President to Lois Lerner's lost e-mail. Your assumptions to the opposite are childish and laughable.As for playing golf, so too did George Bush while we were at war.
If, Obama is so disrespected, so ignored by those under him that he has NOTHING to do with these emails, what the hell is his job? There is nothing you won't say he isn't responsible for, so why are we paying his ignorant ass a salary if he's responsible for nothing under the blanket of his beyond incompetent leadership?
There are emails, that have already been discovered that went directly to the White House counsel.
What is he responsible for is finding out the facts when government fails to function effectively. In the case of the IRS that means finding those "missing" emails or holding people accountable. That I do expect from a president.
Thing is, you don't know the difference when you hate OBAMA, SO YOU WANT HIM BLAMED IF IT RAINS OR IF IT DOESN'T RAIN.
Simple, just not too bright.
June 24, 2014, 09:07:07 AM
Try to explain to me what the economy has to do with a hard drive that could contain information that could put Obama in prison for five years…
If the IRS sent private information to the White House, who made the request?
The president is responsible for what his people do.
Remember Nixon
And we are 15 million jobs short of where we should be but to a liberal that's okay right…
The stock market pumped up with funny money…
If the IRS sent private information to the White House, who made the request?
The president is responsible for what his people do.
Remember Nixon
And we are 15 million jobs short of where we should be but to a liberal that's okay right…
The stock market pumped up with funny money…
June 24, 2014, 08:51:06 AM
Agree, we shouldn't stand for it, but the Obama regime believes it will get a pass on this. Haven't the media, and his supporters like Jim, defended him from years. From IRS, Benghazi, F&F, Syria, Ukraine, and now Iraq. Nothing is EVER his fault. Time to hold his sorry a$$ accountable. He needs to get his a$$ back to DC and start to address these issues....instead he is out on the golf course.
I am 100% in favor of the facts coming out...all the time. As of today there is absolutely zero connection of the administration and the President to Lois Lerner's lost e-mail. Your assumptions to the opposite are childish and laughable.As for playing golf, so too did George Bush while we were at war.
If, Obama is so disrespected, so ignored by those under him that he has NOTHING to do with these emails, what the hell is his job? There is nothing you won't say he isn't responsible for, so why are we paying his ignorant ass a salary if he's responsible for nothing under the blanket of his beyond incompetent leadership?
There are emails, that have already been discovered that went directly to the White House counsel.
You guys wanted to impeach George Bush over mold in the VA…
You guys held Nixon responsible for what the secretary did, remember the 18 minutes
You guys are so putrid..
June 24, 2014, 08:46:23 AM
Agree, we shouldn't stand for it, but the Obama regime believes it will get a pass on this. Haven't the media, and his supporters like Jim, defended him from years. From IRS, Benghazi, F&F, Syria, Ukraine, and now Iraq. Nothing is EVER his fault. Time to hold his sorry a$$ accountable. He needs to get his a$$ back to DC and start to address these issues....instead he is out on the golf course.
I am 100% in favor of the facts coming out...all the time. As of today there is absolutely zero connection of the administration and the President to Lois Lerner's lost e-mail. Your assumptions to the opposite are childish and laughable.As for playing golf, so too did George Bush while we were at war.
If, Obama is so disrespected, so ignored by those under him that he has NOTHING to do with these emails, what the hell is his job? There is nothing you won't say he isn't responsible for, so why are we paying his ignorant ass a salary if he's responsible for nothing under the blanket of his beyond incompetent leadership?
There are emails, that have already been discovered that went directly to the White House counsel.
June 24, 2014, 08:38:47 AM
Agree, we shouldn't stand for it, but the Obama regime believes it will get a pass on this. Haven't the media, and his supporters like Jim, defended him from years. From IRS, Benghazi, F&F, Syria, Ukraine, and now Iraq. Nothing is EVER his fault. Time to hold his sorry a$$ accountable. He needs to get his a$$ back to DC and start to address these issues....instead he is out on the golf course.
I am 100% in favor of the facts coming out...all the time. As of today there is absolutely zero connection of the administration and the President to Lois Lerner's lost e-mail. Your assumptions to the opposite are childish and laughable.As for playing golf, so too did George Bush while we were at war.
June 24, 2014, 08:11:32 AM
Agree, we shouldn't stand for it, but the Obama regime believes it will get a pass on this. Haven't the media, and his supporters like Jim, defended him from years. From IRS, Benghazi, F&F, Syria, Ukraine, and now Iraq. Nothing is EVER his fault. Time to hold his sorry a$$ accountable. He needs to get his a$$ back to DC and start to address these issues....instead he is out on the golf course.
June 24, 2014, 08:08:19 AM
This looks almost worse than if we had the emails that proved guilt across the board. They can't have been "lost." If they truly no longer exist, they were intentionally erased at multiple levels.
And we shouldn't stand for it.
And we shouldn't stand for it.
June 24, 2014, 08:03:23 AM
What about this?
NSA: Our systems are so complex we can’t stop them from deleting data wanted for lawsuit.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/06/09/nsa-our-systems-are-so-complex-we-cant-stop-them-from-deleting-data-wanted-for-lawsuit/
NSA: Our systems are so complex we can’t stop them from deleting data wanted for lawsuit.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/06/09/nsa-our-systems-are-so-complex-we-cant-stop-them-from-deleting-data-wanted-for-lawsuit/
June 24, 2014, 07:58:13 AM
Considering that the mainstream news isn't really bothering with it, it is unlikely that Obama supporters care. If they do, they are just taking delight in his getting away with yet another crime.
June 24, 2014, 04:59:38 AM
And you thought Bill Clinton was the Teflon king. People may have cared in Nixon's time, but not anymore. As noted above more than 1/2 of America couldn't tell you who the VP is or even recognize his picture but they could sing all of Beyonce's songs - that's probably why the POTUS happens to love Beyonce & Jay Z.
Bush was horrid in that he let the backdoors of Rove/Cheney run his poodle show. Obama takes it to a new level by bring classic Chicago deep dish gangsta to the executive branch.
You knew this was coming even before Obama was signed in....Blagojevich!
Why bother having multiple servers in dif locations with complex RAID with multiple redundancies - we're pretty much given the line "my dog ate my homework".
And before I get called a partisan shill - if Janet Reno was AG she would be slamming bodies right now.
Go back to youtube people and enjoy Beyonce.... nothing to see here people
Bush was horrid in that he let the backdoors of Rove/Cheney run his poodle show. Obama takes it to a new level by bring classic Chicago deep dish gangsta to the executive branch.
You knew this was coming even before Obama was signed in....Blagojevich!
Why bother having multiple servers in dif locations with complex RAID with multiple redundancies - we're pretty much given the line "my dog ate my homework".
And before I get called a partisan shill - if Janet Reno was AG she would be slamming bodies right now.
Go back to youtube people and enjoy Beyonce.... nothing to see here people
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