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November 25, 2023, 07:35:56 PM
I am not a person who places myself anywhere in the role of victim and I certainly don't need anything like that from you, you also believe that you are God. Where have I put myself in the role of a victim? Either you're fantasizing or, as I said before, you're simply making accusations without context and just throwing them out there so that other people will believe your lies.
Playing the victim card is core part of your strategy. Should someone dare to criticize your lies, your disproven propaganda you excuses about your uninteresting low quality one-liners, you've repeatedly doubled down on your misbehaviour, instead of admitting your wrongdoing. That's also part of my neutral trust feedback on your account:

You said, you don't care, don’t need to follow the rules and you threw defamations around. You are even proud of your bullshit. Just look at your bullshit posts, where you pyramid-quoted my entire post, despite the whole topic was about avoiding such simple mistakes: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59672279
You pyramid-quoted my post on purpose, just to show me that you don't care about the rules, what a childish behaviour to show your unwillingness to improve!  Roll Eyes

And thanks for pointing out in your rant above again that my neutral trust is well justified because you have learned nothing!


Trolling and topic derailing: Where have I ever trolled?
Hmmm, let's check the case I've just mentioned above about that pyramid quote.


I'm looking forward for your proof, because these are points that have nothing to do with opinion. Another lie on your part, more like me you are actually a troll in the German section.
Who's lying here, you shitposting troll?!
Are you capable of checking your post back then, where you got the neutral trust for?  Cheesy
It's in the reference link! That's why these trusts are on your profile to make readers aware of that!


I don't need to write more and respond to your future posts
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You're just a clown
These announcements are always coming from you and still, you keep coming back, denying any of your past abuses, which are publicly available!  Cheesy

Looks like you are the clown here...



@1miau, what prompted you to give me negative feedback, and why do you think I need several of them for the same imaginary crime?   Go ahead enlighten us.
You should get one additional negative trust entry per week in my opinion due to your repeated abusive trolling, derailing the Reputation board with your insane accusations and anti-DT defamations considering your latest trolling attempts!

Yes, I'm willing to review my feedbacks but you are not willing to stop your malicious behaviour.
You are even escalating it and that's why all of your trusts are well deserved!
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November 25, 2023, 07:12:39 PM
conclusion
What's that? I think the one thing you have failed miserably to explain is your negative trust, not only you haven't changed but now I'm %100 sure no one can change not without any force from outside.

You write a wall with total nonsense excuses and yet fail to explain your reason so that people can understand you better.

@1miau, what prompted you to give me negative feedback, and why do you think I need several of them for the same imaginary crime?   Go ahead enlighten us.
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November 25, 2023, 06:35:24 PM


You're writing nonsense again without any context and just because you throw a lot of words together and write a lot of lies doesn't make what you say true. You're lying and that's all it is. Proofs?
The context is all there.  Huh

You are always trying to play the victim card to cover your wrongdoings. Here again, where you are withewashing your excessive shitposting, trolling and topic derailing. You are even proud of that, this is a disgusting behaviour.
Instead of trying to improve, you are doubling down on your shitpost spam and the only “argument” has been that you have been getting away with it so far because shitposters like you always try to push the boundaries for their excessive shitposting.
You can’t stand criticism of your already disproven propaganda, and you call that criticism “oppression” and it’s not on the table for you to even try to improve your posting quality, you can’t face criticism for that, you are incapable of that.


I don't really want to repeat myself, but I'll write everything we've already discussed again so that the English community can form its own opinion:

You claim that everything you write has a context:

I am not a person who places myself anywhere in the role of victim and I certainly don't need anything like that from you, you also believe that you are God. Where have I put myself in the role of a victim? Either you're fantasizing or, as I said before, you're simply making accusations without context and just throwing them out there so that other people will believe your lies.

Shitposting: Yes, in your opinion, 90% of the german board are Shitposter, because 9 out of 10 don't represent your opinion, so we don't need to discuss that, but this is just about your opinion, it's not a fact. Until you marked me as an enemy, my shitposts were worth merits. I didn't count but there must have been 50 to 100 of you.

Trolling and topic derailing: Where have I ever trolled? Where have I written anything off topic? I'm looking forward for your proof, because these are points that have nothing to do with opinion. Another lie on your part, more like me you are actually a troll in the German section.

What criticism? Criticism is expressed objectively and professionally; a debate involves different opinions and scientific findings. Incidentally, almost all of the scientific findings I listed at the time on the subject of corona have subsequently been confirmed. In contrast, your alleged findings were largely wrong. You didn't criticize, you just ranted and insulted and no, I'm not putting myself in the role of victim here, I'm just not interested in talking to someone who has no level and no decency. That's why you ended up on ignore, and not just with me, but with many others. I have accepted criticism from others who were able to formulate it objectively, the best example being my pyramid quotes. You insulted and scolded, do you seriously believe that I take you seriously when you come with such behavior? As soon as the other colleagues politely and nicely pointed out my mistake, I made an effort to correct it.

Once again you lied by saying that I said that I don't care about the forum rules. You write things out of context, when I say I'm not interested in your rules you write that I'm not interested in the forum rules. For you, 1+1 = 5





Your weekly post count is barely more than the requirement of posts, whatever the requirement is.
Someone could make a statistic in Meta about that and prove my claims.
You are just here to milk signature campaigns with your uninteresting shitposts. I’ve criticized that in the past and made aware of it. Shitposting should be condemned, not encouraged.
Shitposting is why the forum is going down, the more of it, the worse.


And once again you prove that you are living far from reality.

1) I signed up to this forum and didn't even know what signature campaigns were over a year after I signed up and still posted normally. So no: I'm not here for signature campaigns - that's a big lie from you.

2) My weekly post count is usually close to the requested post count, but there have been many weeks where I haven't posted, so if I'm only here for the signature campaign as you claim, why would I not post for so many weeks?

3) Shitposts: I'm now in my current campaign for how long? Half an eternity and the way you write I should have been kicked out after a few weeks, but I'm not and no that has nothing to do with getting through or are you insinuating that my campaign manager is stupid or corrupt? As always, all members who disagree with you are shitposters. For you my posts may be uninteresting or shitposts (only because we have different opinions) but not for others and that does not entitle you to insult me or write me a neutral trust.


You are largely the reason for the departure of members in the german local. The other few percent are people who generally have no interest or no time or who are looking elsewhere because of the old forum software, but in the last few years you have ensured that many members who were in the forum several years before you were among the oldest members in the German area, left the forum because of you.





The big problem is here, that you are not willing to improve, you are now willing to admit that simple fact that you are here just for paid sig campaigns, where it's very important for you to put in the lowest effort as possible!
And you are even proud of it!
Your reply above is a perfect example how you are playing the victim card again, just because I dare to bring up the topic of improving posting quality.
Your neutral trust to point out that simple thing and make readers aware, is deserved. Deal with it.

And your attitude here shows very well, why it’s so dangerous to encourage shitposters like you!


And once again lots of words and characters but no content. You write so pointlessly and repeat yourself all the time. Is shitposter actually your favorite word? I read shitposters, shitposters, shitposters all the time... Just repeating words, come up with something new.


You have received a topic in the meta area from a well-known person who is not from the German area. You are the problem here but you are trying to distract again: the others should always be the problem. If it's not clear to you, I don't have a meta entry because I bully other people and try to abuse power?

For you, all the members who have appeared here are shitposters, forget all the members, now even the moderator has to criticize you publicly. You're just a clown

I don't need to write more and respond to your future posts, you'll just repeat yourself again and write: shitposter, troll, signature campaign, ...

Do you know what's a real shame? You were actually a really nice guy until Corona came and everyone in the forum (including me) liked you. You have ruined your place here so much and this for nothing. The old 1miau from 2020 would have criticized your current now.
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November 25, 2023, 01:49:31 PM
I haven't read the new posts yet, but I wanted to let you know, 1miau's buddy, just used the same reason to tag me.
Clearly this is not a wrongful use of trust feedback.

But here is my question to all the DT members, what should we do to stop people like them?

I know you could say, just ignore and move on, but where is this leading us, and what is considered a blatant abuse in your eyes?

I don't like to start a drama, but tell me, where do you stand and draw a line? I'm sure you couldn't ignore it if it was you, because we know how everyone feels when they get tagged.

I won't make a drama out of this, but wouldn't be better if someone uses the trust system like this for personal reasons, just 10 DT members act and exclude that person without having so much drama?

That would be a contribution on it's own to suffocate any abuse before it escalates further.

And of course I can't rival these people's "contribution" to have anyone side with me, and I know nobody on DT really supports me.

I truly feel like Jon snow now, the scene where they stabbed him one by one. And if nobody is willing to take action, well no resurrection for me, right?

Now while you discuss this case, I need to prepare for a new case. Why? Because they know nobody supports me, and if that is the case, I fear not, I have a God that is more powerful than any one, I have asked him to give me strength to fight my way through.

I'm not an orphan to corner in a dark aley and beat the hell out of me.  
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November 25, 2023, 10:56:38 AM
To review everything, it will take some time to make a careful consideration. I’ve already removed many of the recent feedbacks from 2023 when there was room for improvement, to clear the recent cases.
Like d5000 has said, double entries will be narrowed down when justified and I’ve done that already for several cases. Some feedbacks were even removed entirely.
I’ve received neutral trusts as well and also of the same category, so this will be taken into consideration.

Neutral trusts are just normal comments, where the case is not enough to justify a negative one.
If in question, a feedback is neutral. That’s how I’m handling this.



You're writing nonsense again without any context and just because you throw a lot of words together and write a lot of lies doesn't make what you say true. You're lying and that's all it is. Proofs?
The context is all there.  Huh

You are always trying to play the victim card to cover your wrongdoings. Here again, where you are withewashing your excessive shitposting, trolling and topic derailing. You are even proud of that, this is a disgusting behaviour.
Instead of trying to improve, you are doubling down on your shitpost spam and the only “argument” has been that you have been getting away with it so far because shitposters like you always try to push the boundaries for their excessive shitposting.
You can’t stand criticism of your already disproven propaganda, and you call that criticism “oppression” and it’s not on the table for you to even try to improve your posting quality, you can’t face criticism for that, you are incapable of that.

Your weekly post count is barely more than the requirement of posts, whatever the requirement is.
Someone could make a statistic in Meta about that and prove my claims.
You are just here to milk signature campaigns with your uninteresting shitposts. I’ve criticized that in the past and made aware of it. Shitposting should be condemned, not encouraged.
Shitposting is why the forum is going down, the more of it, the worse.

The big problem is here, that you are not willing to improve, you are now willing to admit that simple fact that you are here just for paid sig campaigns, where it's very important for you to put in the lowest effort as possible!
And you are even proud of it!
Your reply above is a perfect example how you are playing the victim card again, just because I dare to bring up the topic of improving posting quality.
Your neutral trust to point out that simple thing and make readers aware, is deserved. Deal with it.

And your attitude here shows very well, why it’s so dangerous to encourage shitposters like you!




I feel you guys are in the wrong and should pay out the prizes promised.
Regarding the giveaway: topic is already edited and prizes will be paid out to the winners as promised.



I’ll take some time to re-read all of the neutral feedbacks, and linked reference links. That’s why I’ve included these links, that it’s always possible to read up on each issue – neutral feedback.
To read up everything, I’ll take my time and come to a final conclusion on January 10, 2024.

To remove any of the remaining trusts it’ll be of very high relevance, if these entries are still valid. Because I believe even shitposting can be improved or – at least – the willingness to improve. If there’s willingness to improve, there’s already a (small) improvement and that’s the right way to go.
At least in the topic here, we will see the reaction and can directly compare if their behaviour still shows, if my neutral feedbacks are legitimate.
I’m doing my part to review the feedbacks and any new feedbacks could be reviewed any time as trust is public.
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November 25, 2023, 08:05:54 AM

Unknown01

Unknown01 is an excessive shitposter in our local German section.
He got even a reprimand:

@Unknown01, you make many posts like these:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57014417
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57014702
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57008252
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57004830
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57003942

All of the above are (to me) hard to conisder as constructive posts. One liners, without quoting or seemingly addressing anyone in the thread and ending in a smiley (which to me makes it look even more like a one-liner).
I'd like to think I have been very consistent with how I count posts in all of my campaigns, not to mention lenient.


Most of my clients will often ask me why I accept/count local board posts and I always fight for you guys, to let you keep posting in local boards and getting paid for it. Just needs to be more compelling and we're all good, you guys know I love the german subs!

My reminders to apply a high posting quality have been met with aggressive name-calling, crybaby excuses and defamations (see the neutral feedbacks on his account).
Unknown01 was caught to circle positive trust for no reason with his pal MinoRaiola to bolster their accounts in signature campaigns.
That’s why Unknown01 deserved his neutral trust.

It's no surprise, we can find even more, when we are digging. For everyone who wants to make his own opinion, you can read the trust feedbacks and click the reference link. That’s why I’ve always included a reference link for every reader to make DYOR.
These liars and their enablers might show up here and tell you anything. All the feedbacks have a reference link, where everyone can read up the truth himself. The links above are a great start for the abuses, MinoRaiola and Unknown01 are involved in.


Another issue is paid shitposting.
Signature campaigns are somehow a problem causing this but I believe the real problem are greedy shitposters and I’ve been ready to call them out. Unfortunately, when there are too many of these, they will take revenge at some point. I’ve left them neutral trust ratings, that everyone can read up on the issue and make up his own opinion, so everyone will be aware of some of them.

Now, that they are seeing the witch hunt launched by mikeywith here, they will gladly join to score some cheap points.
Like mikeywith, they are obsessed to throw with dirt.


I actually don't read your posts or reply to you because you're on ignore, but I'm making an exception here because I have to take a stand.

You're writing nonsense again without any context and just because you throw a lot of words together and write a lot of lies doesn't make what you say true. You're lying and that's all it is. Proofs?

We have already discussed this extensively in the German area, but so that our English-speaking colleagues also have a short summary:

1) Hhampuz himself took a stand and explained that he considers me a capable member, otherwise I wouldn't be one of the last 10 people left in the Roobet campaign. There was only one week where I asked myself why my posts had not been rated and that was in 2021, since then there has been no complaint from me or from Hhampuz himself. Although Hhampuz's complaint in 2021 was very well justified.

Even though 1miau and I have discussed this several times and Hhampuz himself defended me, he keeps posting the same thing knowing that it's not true. I ask you, what is this if it is not manipulation and lies?

2) Do you know what's the funniest? Hhampuz's post is from 2021, after that there were no problems with any of my posts, but 1miau only came up with the idea that my posts were shitposts in 2022 (1 year later). Unfortunately, he only noticed this after we had very different political opinions. He was for oppression and dictatorship and I was for freedom. He ultimately shows this behavior in the forum and here too. He cannot and will never be able to accept other opinions.

It's also funny that I received a lot of merits from him for my "shitposts" until 2022. It's all just a lie and now he wants to portray himself as a victim of a witch hunt but it was he who bullied members and drove them out of the forum and what happened now? Someone fought back and he didn't expect that and everyone affected now speaks out and suddenly he is the victim?

As I said before: We got along well before Corona and therefore I wasn't a problem, but after I disagreed with him and became an "enemy", I was his target and had to be destroyed. But he couldn't do this because the majority in the german board was on my side. That's why there were unjustified neutral trusts in my profile but that didn't help him either. And he's still angry today that he wasn't able to destroy me, but now he has other problems. If he is excused here, he'll start doing the same shit again at some point.

For this reason I don't forgive him for the shit he did and I feel sorry for all the good members who were driven away by him.
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November 25, 2023, 01:53:45 AM
Regarding a possible solution:

The last time, I’ve already made massive concessions regarding future trust feedbacks.

To find a suitable solution, I’m also willing to review all of my trust feedbacks in question.
But I’ll decide which ones will stay and which ones will get removed. That’s already a massive concession since I believe, that trust interference is setting a very dangerous precedent, as described above.

So, I’m crossing my red line both in future feedbacks and also in past feedbacks. I’ve done my part here to find a solution, also for future "abuses", where anyone can complain here but if there’s not enough controversy for these presented "cases" of my new, neutral trust feedbacks, these people will expose their true, malicious intentions.  Wink

Deleting politically motivated tags would be the right decision. Leaving any political tags by any DT member opens Pandora's box: if this will become legitimate we can face with different political DT gangs and the result of DT wars will be based on a number of friends in each. If there will be more or less equal number of friends, then just nearly all will get red tags. It doesn't matter if I agree with your political position or not. I don't agree with political tags in the Trust system in general.

When I walked down the list of DT members to look at their tags to see if I want to add someone to my own Trust list I saw a political tag left by your account and some other accounts and that was a significant reason not to add them to my Trust list. It doesn't matter which political stance do you take, what matters is that politically motivated tags is what should not be in the Trust system. By default.

And you can see that a total majority of DT members has no politically motivated tags at all, I guess they understand the risks it could bring.
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November 25, 2023, 01:47:53 AM
As with 1miau, TSC (formerly The Pharmacist) has been using that same rehetoric to justify countless hundreds of "shit poster" trust feedback abuses hence they've both left me no choice but to Tilda them both as they don't appear to want to modify their trust feedback abuses.

The weekly update is just around the corner.
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November 25, 2023, 01:45:20 AM
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I think I could write the most valuable posts of all and he would still judge me like that. He has only negative things for me, you can read about that here. But it is nice to read this question here.

If I look at the past, I would think that 1miau is preparing something and we will read another attack from him. If thats not the case, then I would be surprised.
And now we can see, I was right again. He cant let it go, he always has to mark me negative, I ask myself after all this why doesnt he stop?

Nobody can change the past, but they can change the future. But I can see that something is changing, so I hope things are going in a good direction now and the future will bring us less trouble.
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November 25, 2023, 01:14:29 AM
@1miau: Isn't it a bit harsh to categorize MinoRaiola as a "known shitposter/plagiarizer" for three (IMO very minor) cases from 2021 and one opinion of a gambling board member (who also categorized this way some other members I'm surprised about finding them in such a list)? I can only judge for the German board because I've not crossed him in the international forum but his posts there are not particularly bad, often he brings some interesting news.

(I hope that is my last intervention here, but that's a doubt I have still.)
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November 25, 2023, 12:59:36 AM
Another issue is paid shitposting.
Signature campaigns are somehow a problem causing this but I believe the real problem are greedy shitposters and I’ve been ready to call them out. Unfortunately, when there are too many of these, they will take revenge at some point. I’ve left them neutral trust ratings, that everyone can read up on the issue and make up his own opinion, so everyone will be aware of some of them.
When you see a shitpost, report it to moderator. Spams will be taken care by the people who are assigned to the role. Leaving a feedback even if that is neutral shows some sort of judging a user publicly, many do not like it at all. On the other hand, who are you to judge others like that? Actmyname earned some sort of mutual trust from the community to do that but you, JollyGood and some others are far away from such position.

It seems you are always using a plural form [we, our] of person when explaining certain things. Surely I am not attached to any of these we/our LOL.
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November 24, 2023, 11:32:24 PM
1miau, there is no reviewing, your political beliefs should not be visible by all members, if we ever asked you for your opinions on someone, bring whatever you have and express them by posting on a topic, if there is a good and sound reason to alert the whole world about a person, tag them accordingly.
As for me, you have provided no convincing evidence other than basing your accusations on some unfounded info which you haven't analyzed for yourself and which are totally unrelated to whatever I have done since 2022.


You don't have to listen to what I say, but just think about them, and please stop mocking and harassing people with your love buddy JG, do you like a few members keep harassing you for months?

I mean even water molecules have feelings, if you insult a glass of water and then freeze it, you'll find malformed ice crystals under microscope, while complementing the water will give you nicely formed and beautiful crystals.

So think about them and then do your best, when you do something bad and a few DTs like it, they are not your friends, look for other role models.

Inviting people to do good and to abandon misdeeds is my duty, the rest is up to you.

Regardless of your decision my tag stays, if I remove it now in hopes of you doing the same, that would be bad, besides I have legit evidence, but since you agreed to change, I also revised it.
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November 24, 2023, 10:35:32 PM
To find a suitable solution, I’m also willing to review all of my trust feedbacks in question.

That is a great start 1miau, see, sometimes winning against yourself is worth more than winning against many, it takes courage to admit that somethings we do are just, simply put "mistakes" that need to corrected.
Nice to see we can find some common ground here and I'll look into my past feedbacks tomorrow.
After all, we need to come along with each other and reviewing my past feedbacks can help here in my opinion.

Technically, you violated a contract with the participants, you pledged to give prizes to the winners, and thus, people participated for that reason, any participant on one of the 4 contests you canceled can technically issue a flag type 3 against you for violating a contract
Techically, that could be expected, yes.
For now, no one has been damaged as my giveaways aren't finalized but the winners definitely could make claims after the giveaways have concluded.
I could re-open it or (for example) send some funds to someone else on my behalf to deal with it.
I will find a solution, where none of the legitimate winners will suffer any loss.



I feel you guys are in the wrong and should pay out the prizes promised.
There'll be a positive solution, where prizes are paid.  Smiley
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November 24, 2023, 09:57:21 PM

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These are my voluntary, private giveaways

Technically, you violated a contract with the participants, you pledged to give prizes to the winners, and thus, people participated for that reason, any participant on one of the 4 contests you canceled can technically issue a flag type 3 against you for violating a contract, myself being one of them won't do it because you nicely invited me back then when we were "good friends" long before you read my comments in P&S -- although now that I think about it, I think I was never your friend, I was just another "well established" member that you used to increase your power on forum, your lobbying skills are indeed top-notch to say the least.
Unfortunately, I have to agree with this. Same thing goes for the Ratimov deal, I feel you guys are in the wrong and should pay out the prizes promised. In your case it's under 100$ in his case much more, but the amount doesn't matter. You made a commitment IMO and should honor it.

The reason I type the word unfortunately is because I don't want anyone to think i'm taking sides and picking on 1miau. Mikey just answered before I had time to.
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November 24, 2023, 09:44:01 PM
To find a suitable solution, I’m also willing to review all of my trust feedbacks in question.

That is a great start 1miau, see, sometimes winning against yourself is worth more than winning against many, it takes courage to admit that somethings we do are just, simply put "mistakes" that need to corrected.

I know for a fact that you will be very mad if someone from DT left you a feedback that says "Pro NATO, shitposter, low value" , i want you to imagine 3-4 similar feedbacks on your great 1miau profile, they don't look pretty, do they? So if you can't accept them for yourself -- don't impose them on others.

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These are my voluntary, private giveaways

Technically, you violated a contract with the participants, you pledged to give prizes to the winners, and thus, people participated for that reason, any participant on one of the 4 contests you canceled can technically issue a flag type 3 against you for violating a contract, myself being one of them won't do it because you nicely invited me back then when we were "good friends" long before you read my comments in P&S -- although now that I think about it, I think I was never your friend, I was just another "well established" member that you used to increase your power on forum, your lobbying skills are indeed top-notch to say the least.
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November 24, 2023, 09:00:45 PM
Lol, you don't need to negotiate, just don't silent people for their political opinions, stop blackmailing people and manipulating DT election do the right thing, if you wanna hear from others what the right thing is, that means you can't be DT, or if your behaviour is considered to be Ok in your own eyes, means you can't change, no matter the excuses. 

We are not interested to talk about each case individually, we are trying to reach a global understanding and draw the lines.  Don't wait for others to tell you what is good.

But I accept the terms if you don't bully others and don't use DT influence to make people your subjects or trying to get DT votes by threatening, and don't mention anything about my tag on you, lol. Don't fall to the same trap as symmetrick.
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November 24, 2023, 08:22:19 PM
1miau might be taking a break as suggested earlier and is letting people read and make a decision.
Yes, after a few days off, it’s always better to find a solution and despite all the disagreements with my neutral trusts, I’m here to address it.



So, after seeing that people are showing interest to red tag or create flag for another user doing the same as 1miau did, I would like to mention he cancelled 3 ongoing competitions
These are my voluntary, private giveaways, which I've been running every year as a community contribution. I've been far too generous instead of ill-seeking trolls like you. It's my giveaway, if someone doesn't like free Bitcoin, don't participate. I'm handling the funds as it's my giveaway. No giveaway was concluded and the return of all sponsoring funds, was discussed and settled with funds being send back.



First, many thanks for those, who tried to explain the situation on the German board, why I’ve left these neutral ratings.

It happened quite frequently, that threads in the German board were derailed on purpose by those, who have caught a neutral trust back then. And these neutral trusts are very important for readers to get an impression before interacting with these people, that every reader can make up his own opinion.
The abuses were quite severe because repeatedly, they’ve trolled with blunt lies even after the remaining members had debunked them. Anyone who dared to criticize the massive trolling was accused of "oppression", like these spammers are still calling it today but the reality is that our trolls can’t face any criticism without crying "oppression".

They just want to spread their propaganda without getting exposed as lies and getting called out for doing that.
That’s what they want and of course I will use my right for free speech to debunk that and call them out for spreading lies.
It’s not my problem that they were not ready for criticism.

So, our trolls are the ones who were always trying to prevent our spot-on criticism against their lies. Because it exposed their lies.

And these abusers in question did that derailing, lying and trolling again, again and again, despite some warnings from the moderation in the early days.
Quite a few members called out our trolls back then for their derailing, but unfortunately, some of these sane members have left the board, while a whole bunch of these abusers is still around.
Annoyed from the drama and despite the obvious lies from our trolls, the trolls were successful to trick the German moderator into doing little to nothing, sometimes a few weak warnings, when the derailing was too much. But overally, the trolls always tried to push the boundaries to their benefit. Of course, we pushed back, with criticism, with exposing their lies and neutral trust if there was any documented abuse.

We called for the moderator to sort out the issue and to do the moderation job. Even Nazi sympathizing gained traction or, legitimizing the war of Russia against Ukraine and spreading proven lies, of course. The trolls tried to derail our criticism by posting the same lies, re-phrased, again and again. But our feedback to take action against this was not heard.
Even later, plagiarism was covered up and even clear rule violation posts were ignored.
Of course, that emboldened the trolls. And they are now taking the chance to get rid of the consequences they got back then. 

At some point, we have to ask, if such misbehaiour is really beneficial for Bitcointalk or if the community should be able to push back and add a simple neutral trust for this mixture of lies, propaganda, trolling, derailing, shitposting and other things, where neutral trust is appropriate.
I believe, yes, it’s possible.
Neutral trust is completely fine for such things, it’s not negative, if there’s no abuse involved, where a negative trust is deserved. Neutral trust is “hey, before any interaction, you might be interested to read this, here’s a reference link”. 
That’s a very uncontroversial neutral trust in my opinion.
And DT will approve or disapprove that.

Of course, I will also PM certain abusers before opening a topic in Reputation to avoid more drama, if that drama can be avoided. Or should I slap them the topic directly in their face, without any heads-up, like mikeywith did here?

No need for me to be on DT, I believe in a truly decentralized system, where no one is able to dictate, which neutral trust ratings are acceptable or not. If other members are getting legitimized to interfere how other members are allowed to give out neutral trusts, our trolls will start new witch hunts again and again, terrorizing DT members.
And mikeywith is clearly doing this, without backing down from his initial claims, that I would have to remove all past feedbacks of the sort explained above AND for new feedbacks (and if there are new feedbacks, there would be the same witch-hunt again).
Let the whole community decide if they want to have these neutral feedbacks visible by default or not.

To address some of the abuses, where a legitimate neutral trust was given, without doubt:


MinoRaiola

MinoRaiola is a known plagiarizer, getting caught already in 3 cases (probably, there’s even more).
MinoRaiola is a known shitposter, also defending his shitposter friends.
MinoRaiola was caught to circle positive trust for no reason with his pal Unknown01 to bolster their accounts in signature campaigns.
That’s why MinoRaiola deserves his neutral trust.


Unknown01

Unknown01 is an excessive shitposter in our local German section.
He got even a reprimand:

@Unknown01, you make many posts like these:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57014417
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57014702
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57008252
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57004830
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57003942

All of the above are (to me) hard to conisder as constructive posts. One liners, without quoting or seemingly addressing anyone in the thread and ending in a smiley (which to me makes it look even more like a one-liner).
I'd like to think I have been very consistent with how I count posts in all of my campaigns, not to mention lenient.


Most of my clients will often ask me why I accept/count local board posts and I always fight for you guys, to let you keep posting in local boards and getting paid for it. Just needs to be more compelling and we're all good, you guys know I love the german subs!

My reminders to apply a high posting quality have been met with aggressive name-calling, crybaby excuses and defamations (see the neutral feedbacks on his account).
Unknown01 was caught to circle positive trust for no reason with his pal MinoRaiola to bolster their accounts in signature campaigns.
That’s why Unknown01 deserved his neutral trust.

It's no surprise, we can find even more, when we are digging. For everyone who wants to make his own opinion, you can read the trust feedbacks and click the reference link. That’s why I’ve always included a reference link for every reader to make DYOR.
These liars and their enablers might show up here and tell you anything. All the feedbacks have a reference link, where everyone can read up the truth himself. The links above are a great start for the abuses, MinoRaiola and Unknown01 are involved in.


Another issue is paid shitposting.
Signature campaigns are somehow a problem causing this but I believe the real problem are greedy shitposters and I’ve been ready to call them out. Unfortunately, when there are too many of these, they will take revenge at some point. I’ve left them neutral trust ratings, that everyone can read up on the issue and make up his own opinion, so everyone will be aware of some of them.

Now, that they are seeing the witch hunt launched by mikeywith here, they will gladly join to score some cheap points.
Like mikeywith, they are obsessed to throw with dirt.

Just to address the last accusations.

Luckily, the situation had calmed down on the German board over the last year a bit.
I'm not so sure if that will stay like that after the recent discord.
But let's hope so.



I’ve left the MixTum.io signature campaign as well to give other members a chance to join as I will reduce my time here on Bitcointalk for now and I don’t want to block this spot.



Regarding a possible solution:

The last time, I’ve already made massive concessions regarding future trust feedbacks.

To find a suitable solution, I’m also willing to review all of my trust feedbacks in question.
But I’ll decide which ones will stay and which ones will get removed. That’s already a massive concession since I believe, that trust interference is setting a very dangerous precedent, as described above.

So, I’m crossing my red line both in future feedbacks and also in past feedbacks. I’ve done my part here to find a solution, also for future "abuses", where anyone can complain here but if there’s not enough controversy for these presented "cases" of my new, neutral trust feedbacks, these people will expose their true, malicious intentions.  Wink
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November 24, 2023, 08:04:22 PM
So, after seeing that people are showing interest to red tag or create flag for another user doing the same as 1miau did, I would like to mention he cancelled 3 ongoing competitions and no longer is honoring what he promised to pay. So if anyone who was a participant in those competitions wants compensation and feels they were kind of scammed by 1miau, you should wait to see if anyone creates or tags symmetrick for the same breach of contract or not, then you could go ahead and do the same.

Why I say wait? To see if people can be forgiving or not, however you have the rights to do it right now, but forgiving is also an option.

Here are the 3 events :
 this, this and this one).
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November 24, 2023, 04:26:08 PM
Now that I'm just thinking about it... A long time ago I seem to recall that I reviewed suchmoon's trust feedbacks which were full of post-it note style vitriol of anyone their gang didn't approve of and hence they (suchmoon) deserves a Tilda along with the three mentioned in this thread. (Plus the one running a protection racket)

I don't understand most of this rant but one thing that I vehemently agree with is that if you don't trust my judgement (in this thread or anywhere else) you should, no, you must most definitely do the tilde on me and it will solve all your problems forever.



That is applicable to this drama as well. All of those fanning the flames, just tilde 1miau, the OP, or both, how hard can it be. It's not like any argument you make here can possibly change anyone's opinion - look in the mirror and honestly tell yourself that you're open to changing your opinion. Thought so.



How does the forum works & how should the forum work according to whom? Satoshi? Have you speak with him in person how the forum should work 2023? Or is it just a fantasy you and your friends have created?
And when someone opposes you and your friends way of using the forum, why cant you just accept it and do move on with your life's? I don't try to create anything, it's a serious question.
How should this forum works and who have the right to make those rules today? Why cant just people use in in the way it fits their day and we all be happy with that without using drama and feedback and hate against each other?
Think about this for a bit.... you own this forum as little as a newbie register next week. Everyone is only guests here, even you. All this is a fantasy, one day this website will shut down, so enjoy your time here instead of arguing how people should use the forum. Be positive instead of negative, I promise you, you will have so much more fun.  Smiley

LOL what a moronic rant... it's not "my way of using the forum". There are objective facts how e.g. trust system or merit works, and those things didn't even exist when satoshi was still around. Nowadays dimwits like you and TL like to make shit up as if said shit has the same weight as facts. It doesn't. Fucking participation trophy generation.
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November 24, 2023, 01:59:57 PM
I have solved the Problem with @1miau. I use the "Ignore" Button. It's Not possible to discuss with him.
There is only one opinion and that is his.

It's so bad that a lot of old members left Bitcoin Talk because of one member.
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