Topic: Is 1miau fit for DT? - page 5. (Read 3709 times)

My guess is that he will have made a lot of decisions together with him. I think Im a very good example of the fact that I was attacked by both of them. I never had anything to do with him before and suddenly he is fighting against me? This is not normal and we could think about creating a new thread in the future "Is GazetaBitcoin fit for DT?“ Or was he manipulated and has now seen that he acted wrongly? That would be better.

If I look at the past, I would think that 1miau is preparing something and we will read another attack from him. If thats not the case, then I would be surprised.

If this doesnt happen, I am very happy that this is coming to an end, I would even be grateful for the peace. But the past can no longer be changed.

I didn't really want to write here (I'm done with this person who is probably unhappy with himself and his life, who always wants to be right, and who also gets very personal and insulting in his trust entries, which he actually wants to prevent with his manner, but if you're not on his line you're automatically against it and make insinuations with friends etc. to users I don't even know), but I felt the same way.

I don't care about his personal trustlist in the war against his opinion (it's also his decision), but I noticed the same thing when I had DT2, GazetaBitcoin suddenly had me on his distrust list and a neutral entry in my trustlist, although the user neither knows me nor probably speaks my language...  

Probably miau had something to do with it, but I don't care anymore.

Do you want to know why the always present army of good is not actively seeking for justice here? Because they don't really care. Anyways, since this is directly involving DT1 members trusting 1miau, I would like to suggest someone send them all the link to the evidences posted by mikey, I don't think me sending it would help the case, ONLY to those DT1 members currently trusting him, also to the next month candidates as well, THEIR input is needed here.

They might not be "aware" of this situation.

I'm writing here again because 1. You asked for evidence and 2. because I finally want to have peace in the German local area. There are already enough well-known good accounts no longer in our area because of this guy and I don't want there to be any more. Many people don't say anything because otherwise he threatens them.


Actually, until Corona came, I got along very well with him and I got a lot of Merit from him for my “shitposts”. Then Corona came and we had completely different politically opinions and then he started attacking me, including using bad words. I was also threatened, as mole already wrote, that he and other DT members would take care of me if I didn't stop writing nonsense (i.e. different opinion than his). Suddenly after Corona I was just a shitposter. By the way, I'm not the only one, I estimate 10-15 people from the German local have the same fate as me. A few of these members, some of whom have been/are in the forum for almost 10 years, no longer log in after the guy threatened and attacked them for months.


1miau   2022-05-10:   
And as if that wasn't already an exaggeration, a newbie account suddenly wrote a trust, which made me wonder how a newbie knows about the trust-system so well and why a newbie even registers in this forum to talk about political discussions and at the same time 1:1 has the same opinion as 1miau? By the way: This account hasn't been logged in for a long time and was actually only active to take action against me:



By the way, he also wrote two neutral trusts!


And no, I 100% didn't threaten him with a ban, but we already had a topic about it in this forum section.

Because of 1miau I got a few ~ entries from people who have never had anything to do with me in their lives. I have been in the forum since 2017 and have already moved a few mBTC here and I dare to say that my colleagues from the German local trust me a lot - just as I trust them a lot.

~1miau is my final take.
My apology to everyone that caused any influence for adding 1miau in my trust list.
It took me a few days to check the development. There are no point to add anything which could worsen the crisis.

I can hear 1miau bashing their keyboard trying to find a way to word their way out of this extremely well made post. My guess is that he will quote you while removing the content so that he can make some nonsensical answer that can't be easily looked at against the quote content, or he will dig up some information about what you said years ago and turn it into a subpar rebuttal...and I assume the post will leave out responses to all of the most compelling content that is impossible to rebut.

In full seriousness, I hope that members who should also be participating in the reputation board start to chime in...and it may be wishful thinking, but I hope that something is done about 1miau's ego and exacerbated tirades are also dialled back to a tolerable level (at a minimum).

One thing is for sure in my opinion, this user should not have the power to have an influential input on another member's reputation, and I will be surprised this is still the case after due time has passed.

A true contribution to the community, being a mod, as well as helping to burn the corruption from it's roots.
This is called "Exemplary". I'm sure he has alts, we need to be on the look out for any DT members with similar behaviour, this system is no longer like before when admin directly hand picked DT1s, NO, now all sorts of weirdos can game the algorithm and get on DT.

So we should find such people and remove them from DT, I'm sure they will continue as usual if they are interested in Bitcoin, if not then they would leave.

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This part is very familiar for me, where have we seen 2 or more known trust abusers using the same tactics? Right 1miau and jollygood cornering BenCodie to have a laugh at him.This is getting serious, looks like we have an actual gang here. They have shown interest in gambling boards and casinos, it could be their headquarter if we were to investigate further.

Nothing will change until we all be united with one sound:
No more abuse and corruption.

How does the forum works & how should the forum work according to whom? Satoshi? Have you speak with him in person how the forum should work 2023? Or is it just a fantasy you and your friends have created?
And when someone opposes you and your friends way of using the forum, why cant you just accept it and do move on with your life's? I don't try to create anything, it's a serious question.
How should this forum works and who have the right to make those rules today? Why cant just people use in in the way it fits their day and we all be happy with that without using drama and feedback and hate against each other?
Think about this for a bit.... you own this forum as little as a newbie register next week. Everyone is only guests here, even you. All this is a fantasy, one day this website will shut down, so enjoy your time here instead of arguing how people should use the forum. Be positive instead of negative, I promise you, you will have so much more fun.  

Since a few proofs have been requested, I would also like to say something about this.
It is very difficult to reproduce texts taken out of context and translated by deepl.com 1:1, but let's try:

User: Blitzfontaene





In my opinion, this is only due to inconsistencies in the threads Corona + Corona, Russland vs. EU bzw. Amerika etc..

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There were also many differences of opinion with user Beobachter_90, but it was Nestade ho left him a similar entry:
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=134226

Nestade generally has a lot in common with 1miau but this is only mentioned for the sake of completeness and in my opinion they are no alts from each other.

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There was a lot of contact via PN (1miau please read for yourself how harmonious it was between us in our first years together here) but I will not publish any private messages I have received because there are insults and also a lot of drama but it is almost exclusively about the bad moderation of me because I did not let myself be used to censor/delete contrary opinions. But that doesn't have to be the topic here because it's about the trust/feedback topic and we shouldn't mix everything up.

I don't want to keep the discussion going unnecessarily long, but if the issue is on the table and evidence has been requested, then it was time to provide it. At least some of it, because at some point my time on the whole subject will come to an end.

You know a thread has descended into a certain kind of cesspit when suchmoon weighs in to either defend the thin skinned DT Trolls or to spread little more than flat earth style FUD against myself (either way, I wouldn't know - I ignore all users who distrust me).

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Now that I'm just thinking about it... A long time ago I seem to recall that I reviewed suchmoon's trust feedbacks which were full of post-it note style vitriol of anyone their gang didn't approve of and hence they (suchmoon) deserves a Tilda along with the three mentioned in this thread. (Plus the one running a protection racket)

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If suchmoon did indeed mention me in their comment above, then can somebody please flag their post as OFF TOPIC, I'd rather not have to endure reading their vomit. It's bad enough I can see their name over yonder

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What happened to 1miau? He realized things are getting heated too much, he decided to hit the road but forgot his tail. If he wasn't acting like a child, none of this was necessary. I mean if you know you are to be blamed, then why let it reach to this point? Unless you are unable to realize and differentiate between right and wrong.

Can we learn at all? Or are we destined to repeat the mistakes of our ancestors, like a repeating loop!?

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If people could understand that killing 1 person is equal to killing the whole world, and defaming, accusing 1 person for the wrong reasons is no different than doing it to many people, it'd be a better world.😔

He earned the tilde for vindictive editing of his trust list. This was helped by the deletion of posts in his self-moderated threads. The next bad thing he did was delete his threads with link collections, which was once again vindictive towards all the forum members.
One wrong negative feedback that initiated the whole drama was not enough reason for me to distrust him. But all of the above, along with a very aggressive way of discussion, led to only one thing, ~

If we were to remove the tilde now because he deleted all the feedback, that would be a violation of the trust system. It would be pure blackmail, pressure with the sole purpose of removing the feedback that we believe is incorrect.
This is how I saw the whole matter.

TL, I'm really surprised that you, who only deal with things related to reputation here on the forum, don't recognize such clear things.

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I apologize to mikeywith and to 1miau for this offtopic, you can continue where you left off. 

Bullshit. He earned his tildes with poor judgement, there is no reason to remove them, particularly since his tantrum is ongoing.

If you took all this effort that you're spending on making shit up and put it towards understanding how this forum actually works, you'd have all those things that you crave so much, all the trust doohickeys and merit thingamabobs that you can dream of.

I'm not going to reply to you again, so rant all you want from here in out. Feel free to ~ i'm 100% ok with it. I don't control what you do with your inclusions. It's not my fault you ran yourself right out of DT, it's your own doing. The difference between me and you as far as DT goes is I don't care 1 way or the other. I do my best and I do not use it as a power trip. I will practice what I preach though and use that ignore button as I feel arguing with you is a complete waste of time.

Used your post mikey as reference for a tag,  let us see if there is a true Bitcoiner who is truly concerned for freedom of speech in this community to tag this virus accordingly for all the untrustworthy and shady dealings, DT manipulator, I have also called out all DT1s having him on their trust lists, 2 of them said *shut up we don't care(something like that), this is not about me or 1miau, anyone with the same mindset as him, should receive a tag and excluded from DT, let them continue their contributions
to see if they are telling the truth or they are here just to milk this community , since it's a decentralized system, right?

I am disgusted to see such parasites were allowed to exist for so long.

*= my own interpretation.

1miau reminds me of that other impatient hothead Lutpin. (I'll stop short if calling it a hunch, but they do remind me of each other).

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Yahoo62278:



The proof of distrusting them can be found in their trust feedback they have posted.

Same as yours and TSC's, 1miau trust feedback need to be reviewed as they are little more than post-it notes or negatives to sledge etc - not for trades.

Practice what you preach as the three of you deserve Tildas.

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Conversely, anyone who is Tilda-ing Ratimov (or whatever it is he calls himself these days) is guilty of trust abuse as he (Ratimov) currently has posted no trust feedback.

I would be very careful using Google Translate for such a letter, English is rather simple/different, I can write a threat message in Arabic, that sounds like a threat in Arabic but would very well sound like friendly advice in English, so it's best to let other German-speaking members sum it up it for us.



In one of the PMs I got, I was told by a member, that 1miau is part of (or probably runs) a telegram group where he and a few other fellow friends discuss everything DT, he asked me to be careful of what 1miau is cooking for me  , is that true 1miau, do you discuss DT stuff on a telegram group ? please note that it isn't an accusation, it's just a question. I would believe whatever you say.

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Also, 1miau for your last post, It's pretty long and I don't seem to understand it, I don't have time to count how many posts were posted here and lock-unlock the topic daily, it makes no sense, also, I don't like the fact that you want to ignore community opinions and only focus on DT members, I believe that everyone's opinion matters, after all, any sane DT member would always strive to do the best for the community.

Furthermore, and more importantly, my terms are simple, delete all the political feedback abuse, do not send any political-related feedback in the future, and they don't need 20 lines post, the other alternative would be to get the majority of the community to agree on using the trust system for political reasons, which I think is not possible, you may convince a few of your friends to come and say that out loud, but then how many of them will be?

The last resort would be leaving everything as is, the topic stays open forever until people get bored of it, so please do not post any more "terms", I really want to stop posting here, as I said in my previous post, I won't post unless I am asked by someone, I replied to Yahoo, and I replied to you, I don't want to be rude and ignore your posts going forward, so if it's a clear and short agreement of the terms I mentioned, it won't change a thing, it will only keep dragging this thing longer.

To everyone, please forgive me if ignore your questions going forward, as you can see from my post history, I hardly post 2-3 times a day and only in topics I feel comfortable with and know exactly what I am talking about without any drama, I really am so uncomfortable posting in this section of the forum, I said everything I want to say, feel free to continue the discussion the way you like it -- I will only respond if it's something super important (which I doubt will be), so if I don't respond to your question, accusation, greeting, or anything -- I am sorry in advance.    

I understand it exactly as he wrote it to me and he is setting a deadline or DT will react. I dont think he means it should be followed by a positive reaction. He will manipulate me into changing an entry about a user? Mh… for me it is so, but others are welcome to express their opinion about it.

I have a problem when users are attacked and he knows that because I dont give up and defend those who are attacked as best I can. I should be known for that in the German local.

Feedback sent for political reasons:


And


It's pretty evident that the negative feedback he left was right after the political disagreement, had they shared the same political view, he wouldn't have sent the feedback.

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Trust exclusion for the sole reason of political disagreement

- Mikeywith > https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63187266
- MindRust  >https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63191470
-bullrun2024bro > https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63200560

+ he almost distrusts ALL those to whom he sent political feedback, which would technically also fall under this list if, of course, out of the 70+ exclusions he has, nobody knows how many were done for just "political reasons", but ya, sure thing is, the list will just get longer with more victims to come.

Narcissistic personality disorder, the urge to insult, curse, and punish everyone who disagrees with him, either by leaving them feedback, or exclusion or trying to censorship them one way or the other 

- Mikeywith : He insulted me in public for political disagreement, sent me a PM full of hatred
- Harassing the German mod to delete posts that he doesn't like for personal or political reasons
- Multiple PMs are sent to the German mod  from people who are afraid of talking against 1miau because he would destroy their accounts
- Excluding people from competition for having a different opinion
-Constant attack against many German community members for having different opinions
-Attacked and sent feedback to a German member for political differences
-Threatening a German member via PM to take actions against him most likely using his DT power simply for political disagreement 
- Publically threatening a German member

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Extortion

I was contacted by someone who interacted with 1miau for the removal of political feedback, 1miau said (I have to rephrase since the victim is afraid and I promised not to reveal his name in public).

 "if x member does not express his political opinion about x conflict anymore, I might remove my feedback."

I can't reveal more info about this message as it will lead him to know the victim's name, but as I said before, if any DT member wants the proof and promises to never reveal the victim's name, I am willing to send the proof, I made a promise that I would only show the evidence to someone I trust that they would not reveal the victim name.

- Threatening a German member to change his feedback

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Mind you that zero digging was done to compile this long list of abuse and harassment, it was also either posted here or PMed to me during the past couple of days, and given how victims keep showing, it seems that the lists above have a great potential of growth, not that I think they need any more points because there is enough proof that 1miau suffers from egomania.

I am disappointed to find out that 1miau despite being smart and productive, he is just like a child who lacks surrounding awareness, if you give him a puzzle to solve, he will do it, a homework to write he will probably do it neatly, but if you leave a knife next to him, the censuses could be devastating.

So are his posts beneficial to the forum? for the most part yes.
Is he a good Merit source? he sure is.
Is he a good DT member? sure thing no.

1miau is going to harm himself and everyone else who goes against him if he stays in DT, if the DT community doesn't make up their mind to put him out of it at least temporarily, my advice to 1miau is to stay out of it himself, not being able to control your feelings and using all tools you have to punish people who disagree with you is a serious problem that needs to be addressed.

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In fact, you can ignore all of the above and just look at the fact that there are some members who had to PM me or the German mod to express their fear, those poor souls are afraid to speak up because they fear what 1miau is capable of doing to them, be it a direct or indirect consequence of the way 1miau uses the system if there is at least 1 human being who needs to accept oppression in a forum that was made for a project that was intended to liberate people from centralized entities -- then this has to stop.

Understand that this is what the message says according to google translate

Since you will be part of DT again in the next few months due to the DT rotations (due to the rotation you are not at the moment, but this is only due to a random situation that is unlikely for your account), I ask you to adjust the trust according to the guidelines: remove the trust or change it to neutral trust.

Using trust means understanding and being able to apply the system. Otherwise, DT will respond!

I do not look at this as a threat. He is asking you to review your tags basically and make sure they are correct. That's what I take from it at least. Maybe he could have said it nicer? Other then that, doesn't look like any sort of threat or bullying. Looks like he was trying to help IMO and by DT will respond I would take it as a thread like this could be made about you not knowing how to use the trust system and shouldn't be in DT if you don't know the basics. I could be wrong but this is my take.

I find it odd that he's worried about your inclusions and tags in advance.