Topic: Is anyone following the Israel & Palestine Situation. - page 20. (Read 42678 times)
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A father opens a plastic bag: "This is my son", he says, "killed by an Israeli shell"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/father-gathers-body-dead-son-two-plastic-bag-gaza-shelling
<< Palestinian death toll continues to mount as Israel's ground invasion into Gaza carries on. >>
Benjamin Netanyahu has just announced that he is going to step up the ground offensive. This can backfire on him. Unlike the aerial attack option, the ground offensive is comparatively more riskier. Israeli soldiers can be killed or even worse, captured by the Hamas militants.
Killed yes, Captured.. Not likely.
People die in war time, BiBi knows that. If a few jews need to die in order to save many its kosher!
Go Israel!
I'm yet to understand why Hamas insists to poke a bear(Israel) with a short stick. They have no technology to match Israel, actually pretty few countries does, imagine some Allah's cavemen! The only outcome is Gaza and Palestine to shrink little by little at every confrontation.
It's very simple. If you can call it simple.When they provoke Israel they gain:
1. More radicals to their lines by having casualties, and
2. Public opinion in their favor since they are the underdog.
3. They help their sponsors (various arab countries) by giving them political distraction that they can use to sway their own people (just look how many arab countries use Israel as the source of all evil in their campaigns).
This is all happening whilst their leaders are hiding safely inside bunkers or are simply outside the gaza strip managing their hotels.
Benjamin Netanyahu has just announced that he is going to step up the ground offensive. This can backfire on him. Unlike the aerial attack option, the ground offensive is comparatively more riskier. Israeli soldiers can be killed or even worse, captured by the Hamas militants.
I am not really following it but I am updated since I watch news daily.
There should be an end of it for everyone's good not just for the civilians or for one side.
There should be an end of it for everyone's good not just for the civilians or for one side.
As a father who lost his children in Gaza, I call for an end to this bloodshed
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/18/father-children-gaza-bloodshed-palestinians-israelis
<< Palestinians and Israelis must work together to build a new generation that believes in humanity and freedom. >>
I'm yet to understand why Hamas insists to poke a bear(Israel) with a short stick. They have no technology to match Israel, actually pretty few countries does, imagine some Allah's cavemen! The only outcome is Gaza and Palestine to shrink little by little at every confrontation.
I'm not pro-Israeli or pro-Palestinian, I'm just tired of that crap! Maybe carpet A-bomb those places to make sure nobody can come close to those cursed "lands of the God of the Desert" in the next million years wasn't a bad idea.
About children used as human shields, I wasn't saying that makes it right to kill children, it's just a practical view, war is no akin to "rights" just a sum of wrongs.
Eventually a CIVILIZATION would protect its children, so they aren't anywhere near a frontline.
I'm not pro-Israeli or pro-Palestinian, I'm just tired of that crap! Maybe carpet A-bomb those places to make sure nobody can come close to those cursed "lands of the God of the Desert" in the next million years wasn't a bad idea.
About children used as human shields, I wasn't saying that makes it right to kill children, it's just a practical view, war is no akin to "rights" just a sum of wrongs.
Eventually a CIVILIZATION would protect its children, so they aren't anywhere near a frontline.
Hamas does it because every time they poke the bear innocent Palestinians die. when innocent Palestinians die they leave behind family members. those family members become radicalized and live their life thinking of nothing but revenge.... and they become Hamas soldiers of the future.
this is how Hamas stays in power.
If you want the cycle to stop you need to to make sure that justice is carried out.. not retribution. you need to protect the innocent if you want to punish the wicked.. (im pretty sure it says that in all 3 holy books)
nobody will shed a tear when a terrorist is killed or jailed.
but when an innocent 4 year old child dies.... an entire community is hit by a mixture of grief and rage.
it may be a different topic but to illustrate my point.. just look at what has happened in Ukraine today.
the prevailing view is that some stupid Russian separatists shot down an airliner killing 300 civilians. Including a lot of people from my country. Now entire nations are in grief and angry... angry at the stupid separatists and angry at Russia.
senseless violence doesn't get anyone anywhere. The Russian government will face harsh consequences for their stupidity if it is confirmed that they supplied the anti aircraft missiles to those separatist thugs.
this has absolutely nothing to do with this topic but it demonstrates how easily things can get out of hand when ideology takes over from common sense....
I cant help but imagine what could happen in Isreal/Palestine if some idiot manages to hit a school or hospital and kill hundreds if innocent victims.
this is a dark day for the world..... I cant believe that it is 2014 and people are still fighting and bickering over tiny scraps of land like its 1096.
war is no akin to "rights" just a sum of wrongs.
I couldn't agree more...
I'm yet to understand why Hamas insists to poke a bear(Israel) with a short stick. They have no technology to match Israel, actually pretty few countries does, imagine some Allah's cavemen! The only outcome is Gaza and Palestine to shrink little by little at every confrontation.
I'm not pro-Israeli or pro-Palestinian, I'm just tired of that crap! Maybe carpet A-bomb those places to make sure nobody can come close to those cursed "lands of the God of the Desert" in the next million years wasn't a bad idea.
About children used as human shields, I wasn't saying that makes it right to kill children, it's just a practical view, war is no akin to "rights" just a sum of wrongs.
Eventually a CIVILIZATION would protect its children, so they aren't anywhere near a frontline.
A nice animation about that place that sums it up along the History:
http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/this_land_is_mine/
I'm not pro-Israeli or pro-Palestinian, I'm just tired of that crap! Maybe carpet A-bomb those places to make sure nobody can come close to those cursed "lands of the God of the Desert" in the next million years wasn't a bad idea.
About children used as human shields, I wasn't saying that makes it right to kill children, it's just a practical view, war is no akin to "rights" just a sum of wrongs.
Eventually a CIVILIZATION would protect its children, so they aren't anywhere near a frontline.
A nice animation about that place that sums it up along the History:
http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/this_land_is_mine/
Palestinians (Hamas) are prepared for urban warfare better than ISR army
Hmm... Hamas is having only one advantage. They can take hundreds of casualties without suffering a blow to their public image. However, if Israel loses more than a dozen soldiers, then the government will be taken down.
Palestinians (Hamas) are prepared for urban warfare better than ISR army
I doubt that. Air superiority and aerial image support really matters in urban warfare. Israelis are in possession of technically advanced military equipment such as motion detectors and night vision goggles.
Apparently a Israeli solider was killed...
Urban warfare could prove deadly, not just for the Palestinians, but for the Israelis as well. But the level of resistance being offered by the Hamas would depend heavily on the amount of support they receives from Egypt.
Palestinians (Hamas) are prepared for urban warfare better than ISR army
Apparently a Israeli solider was killed...
Urban warfare could prove deadly, not just for the Palestinians, but for the Israelis as well. But the level of resistance being offered by the Hamas would depend heavily on the amount of support they receives from Egypt.
Apparently a Israeli solider was killed...
shocked that you think it would be perfectly ok to kill children (regardless of ethnicity) if they were taken hostage by terrorists just so you could get at the terrorist.
do you also think it was ok for Zionists to kidnap and kill that Palestinian boy in response to that terrible crime where 3 Jewish boys were kidnapped and murdered by Palestinian fundamentalists?
(I use Jewish here again to make the distinction between Jewish the religion and Isreali the nationality)
im just curious how your mind works.
They were not taken hostage. What are you even talking about.do you also think it was ok for Zionists to kidnap and kill that Palestinian boy in response to that terrible crime where 3 Jewish boys were kidnapped and murdered by Palestinian fundamentalists?
(I use Jewish here again to make the distinction between Jewish the religion and Isreali the nationality)
im just curious how your mind works.
They were either sent there or went there willingly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTArVIHDelg
Can you provide any link as to prove said civilians were kidnapped?
And no, I don't think the kidnap of the boy was ok, I think they were psychopaths, and it actually saddened me greatly because I haven't heard in my lifetime of an Israeli executing such revenge.
those Israeli settler kids that were murdered weren't taken hostage but that's because they called the police.. if they hadn't called the police then they probably would have been hostages, because hostages are always better for negotiation.. but that's just my observation as an outsider..
the point is... its is the violence and mentality of both sides which is breeding more people like those Zionists and those Palestinian fundamentalists.
it will only get worse as long as people don't stand up (on both sides) and condemn the violence against innocent people.
you can only have peace when a Palestinian man risks his life to save an Israeli child .. and when an Israeli man risks his life to save a Palestinian child.
until then all you are doing is sliding back into that dark abyss of endless violence and retribution...
shocked that you think it would be perfectly ok to kill children (regardless of ethnicity) if they were taken hostage by terrorists just so you could get at the terrorist.
do you also think it was ok for Zionists to kidnap and kill that Palestinian boy in response to that terrible crime where 3 Jewish boys were kidnapped and murdered by Palestinian fundamentalists?
(I use Jewish here again to make the distinction between Jewish the religion and Isreali the nationality)
im just curious how your mind works.
They were not taken hostage. What are you even talking about.do you also think it was ok for Zionists to kidnap and kill that Palestinian boy in response to that terrible crime where 3 Jewish boys were kidnapped and murdered by Palestinian fundamentalists?
(I use Jewish here again to make the distinction between Jewish the religion and Isreali the nationality)
im just curious how your mind works.
They were either sent there or went there willingly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTArVIHDelg
Can you provide any link as to prove said civilians were kidnapped?
And no, I don't think the kidnap of the boy was ok, I think they were psychopaths, and it actually saddened me greatly because I haven't heard in my lifetime of an Israeli executing such revenge.
Funny how you now use Jews as your generalization and not Israelis.
And anyway, to answer your question, I would. Thing is, it's not happening (and never will - different mentality) with Israeli people. They don't raise their kids to hate or that dying for the name of god is a glorified death or w/e nonsense.
So its just a theoretical question.
And anyway, to answer your question, I would. Thing is, it's not happening (and never will - different mentality) with Israeli people. They don't raise their kids to hate or that dying for the name of god is a glorified death or w/e nonsense.
So its just a theoretical question.
yes ofcourse because people like you don't realize that Palestinian children are Isreali children. Isreal / Palestine is the same land the same country and the same blood.
I had to make the distinction in case you got confused about what I was exactly asking.
I am shocked.. honestly I am...
shocked that you think it would be perfectly ok to kill children (regardless of ethnicity) if they were taken hostage by terrorists just so you could get at the terrorist.
do you also think it was ok for Zionists to kidnap and kill that Palestinian boy in response to that terrible crime where 3 Jewish boys were kidnapped and murdered by Palestinian fundamentalists?
(I use Jewish here again to make the distinction between Jewish the religion and Isreali the nationality)
im just curious how your mind works.
And yes, you are biased, all your attacks are one sided, just check your own post history and see how you speak ill of only 1 side 90% of the time.
It's amazing how you think you're a neutral person who seeks peace when you aren't.
By propagating 1 side you contribute.
maybe you should re read the history..
answer the question.. if jewish children were being taken hostage by terrorists and being used as human shields... would it be OK to kill them?
And yes, you are biased, all your attacks are one sided, just check your own post history and see how you speak ill of only 1 side 90% of the time.
It's amazing how you think you're a neutral person who seeks peace when you aren't.
By propagating 1 side you contribute.
maybe you should re read the history..
answer the question.. if jewish children were being taken hostage by terrorists and being used as human shields... would it be OK to kill them?
I say it is not ok to kill Jewish children or Palestinian children or children from any background.. what do you say?
show your true colours.
People who agree to be meat shields or tell their kids to go be meat shields are the ones responsible for w/e happens.
wow.....
you pull the trigger someone dies and you are not responsible.
People who let terrorists shot from their house are not innocent.
I cant believe people can hold such retarded beliefs.
please do me a favor and join the ground offensive if you believe so passionately about it instead of being a coward that hides behind your keyboard while condemning others to death.
Coward? I already did my time in the army and served on the border. And even if I wanted I wouldn't be recruited for the ground offensive.please do me a favor and join the ground offensive if you believe so passionately about it instead of being a coward that hides behind your keyboard while condemning others to death.
I have already said many times that no violence against innocent civilians is ever acceptable. I don't know how you can accuse me of being biased.
And yes, you are biased, all your attacks are one sided, just check your own post history and see how you speak ill of only 1 side 90% of the time.It's amazing how you think you're a neutral person who seeks peace when you aren't.
By propagating 1 side you contribute.
would you still say it was justified if they were Jewish children dying?
Funny how you now use Jews as your generalization and not Israelis.And anyway, to answer your question, I would. Thing is, it's not happening (and never will - different mentality) with Israeli people. They don't raise their kids to hate or that dying for the name of god is a glorified death or w/e nonsense.
So its just a theoretical question.
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