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Quote from: setupbounds on August 27, 2016, 03:01:23 AM

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Regarding to your question of course it does because the word stealing is illegal in any ways but what have you take an example is very rare to happen and I think its impossible to happen tho, you cant generate a new bitcoin address that has bitcoin in it, even there are already hundred of thousands of bitcoin address no one will be the same address and no one used it before and that's the reason why it has a coin in it.

Okay. Let's assume he actually got into that kind of situation. Consider this.
Stealing is illegal, yes. However, since he overlapped the address, the former owner of that address wouldn't be able to access those coins anymore and since there's no way to know who that former owner is, wouldn't it be a shame to not spend those coins and let them be in there?
Think about it.

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Quote from: x4 on August 26, 2016, 07:01:44 AM

Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Regarding to your question of course it does because the word stealing is illegal in any ways but what have you take an example is very rare to happen and I think its impossible to happen tho, you cant generate a new bitcoin address that has bitcoin in it, even there are already hundred of thousands of bitcoin address no one will be the same address and no one used it before and that's the reason why it has a coin in it.

Okay. Let's assume he actually got into that kind of situation. Consider this.
Stealing is illegal, yes. However, since he overlapped the address, the former owner of that address wouldn't be able to access those coins anymore and since there's no way to know who that former owner is, wouldn't it be a shame to not spend those coins and let them be in there?
Think about it.

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Quote from: Viyamore on August 26, 2016, 10:43:33 PM

Quote from: twerdefnce on August 26, 2016, 02:11:37 PM

Quote from: mk4 on August 26, 2016, 05:14:23 AM

Stealing in general is illegal. Bitcoins? Ofcourse. It's a currency. It's stealing money basically.

it is illegal for sure, however a lot of people are doing that because bitcoin is not regulated by anyone so people usually dont get any punishments

Well that's a fact.you can't be accused by stealing bitcoins .but it will depend i think on those country who will legalize bitcoins and put a law on there .but i don't know if they can trace the stealer especially if hackers do it.
Incase as of now there are no laws on it like stealing bitcoins on scam HYIPS .

Sad to know these things but it's reality, eve someone commit stealing those Bitcoins but still useless since there's no law or regulation of prohibiting this act since Bitcoin is not legalize. Tracing scammers would be hard since as we all know that Bitcoins one of its characteristics is its anonymity which is really hard to trace because of encrypted transactions.

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This shouldn't even be a question of legal. Legal != right or moral. The fact that the OP even would need to ask this question says a lot about them. I can only hope they don't now or ever have kids. The world is already overflowing with this type of mentality.

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Of course stealing bitcoin is illegal, because you stealing another people bitcoin and that people won't you steal it. Everything with stealing is always illegal.

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Quote from: twerdefnce on August 26, 2016, 02:11:37 PM

Quote from: mk4 on August 26, 2016, 05:14:23 AM

Stealing in general is illegal. Bitcoins? Ofcourse. It's a currency. It's stealing money basically.

it is illegal for sure, however a lot of people are doing that because bitcoin is not regulated by anyone so people usually dont get any punishments

Well that's a fact.you can't be accused by stealing bitcoins .but it will depend i think on those country who will legalize bitcoins and put a law on there .but i don't know if they can trace the stealer especially if hackers do it.
Incase as of now there are no laws on it like stealing bitcoins on scam HYIPS .

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

As the title said is stealing bitcoin illegal? difinitely yes as in the bible said stealing is illegal and its bad in the g*d eye's if you are believing on him because if don't then you are freely to do anything you want if you don't afraid with him but i think if in the month of december then you gonna receive a bitcoin then its early christmas for you Cheesy

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Quote from: mk4 on August 26, 2016, 05:14:23 AM

Stealing in general is illegal. Bitcoins? Ofcourse. It's a currency. It's stealing money basically.

it is illegal for sure, however a lot of people are doing that because bitcoin is not regulated by anyone so people usually dont get any punishments

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It's not your money so why could you take it? if you are honest, you cannot take it.because without permission to take his money is totally illigal. Better you should find a good way to earn bitcoin like signature or Twitter campaign etc.

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Quote from: serjent05 on August 26, 2016, 09:08:39 AM

Quote from: rekinthis on August 26, 2016, 08:50:10 AM

Quote from: mk4 on August 26, 2016, 05:14:23 AM

Stealing in general is illegal. Bitcoins? Ofcourse. It's a currency. It's stealing money basically.

you are right, i dont know what is about bitcoins that people thing that it might be legal to steal it, stealing is always illegal for literally everything

Stealing bitcoin is illegal but the case presented by the OP is different. It is about generating an address and the address generated got BTC in it. So do you think if you spend it is a kind of thief? Or act of stealing? In my opinion no. Because it happen to appear in a wallet that you own. You can loc it, withdraw it and even send it to another person. You have all the right and freedom to move it. So basically it is not stealing.

Stealing is not just what is defined in the law. Stealing is the general perception of 1 or more individuals taking money from others without anything to show for. I tend to believe this was the case which makes it wrong and by that also illegal. Suppose you keep doing this, it will eventually be illegal by law.

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Quote from: serjent05 on August 26, 2016, 09:08:39 AM

Stealing bitcoin is illegal but the case presented by the OP is different. It is about generating an address and the address generated got BTC in it. So do you think if you spend it is a kind of thief? Or act of stealing? In my opinion no. Because it happen to appear in a wallet that you own. You can loc it, withdraw it and even send it to another person. You have all the right and freedom to move it. So basically it is not stealing.

And it's clear everything is accident (I thought so because it's easy to say that it was accidentally because the odds are really low to happen).

Well it's non traceable (not technical) so an accidentally receive coins is all yours now if ever that will happen.

I just can't wondered how's the sender put the wrong address. Or is the wrong receiver thing exist in blockchain transaction?

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Quote from: rekinthis on August 26, 2016, 08:50:10 AM

Quote from: mk4 on August 26, 2016, 05:14:23 AM

Stealing in general is illegal. Bitcoins? Ofcourse. It's a currency. It's stealing money basically.

you are right, i dont know what is about bitcoins that people thing that it might be legal to steal it, stealing is always illegal for literally everything

Stealing bitcoin is illegal but the case presented by the OP is different. It is about generating an address and the address generated got BTC in it. So do you think if you spend it is a kind of thief? Or act of stealing? In my opinion no. Because it happen to appear in a wallet that you own. You can loc it, withdraw it and even send it to another person. You have all the right and freedom to move it. So basically it is not stealing.

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Quote from: dunfida on August 26, 2016, 07:43:14 AM

Quote from: diegz on August 26, 2016, 07:26:51 AM

Quote from: zend7 on August 26, 2016, 07:22:24 AM

Stealing is punishable by law and in some countries they even cut your arm for doing such thing. So stealing bitcoin is the same as you take someone else money without their permission. In the best case if you get caught you will end up in jail. Of course I don't know yet a single person from the hackers of bitcoin exchanges who have been caught so chances of you getting caught are really slim. But yes its illegal and you should stay away from it and be a good person with good behavior in general.

I don't think that you get OP's point... He said that he didn't mean to get those coins and it just so happen that when he generate an address it already have an amount stored in there and owned by someone else which OP also said that he is aware that it is very rare to happen... Though it was not his property, I think it is not stealing since he didn't do anything to get it except for generating an address.

He might not read the Ops queries first and he replied directly Grin

. Well , op generated an address which is already owned by someone thats why he ask if bitcoin sealing is illegal, for sure he would intend or try to get those bitcoin because he already have an access to it therefore if he got those bitcoin then its stealing and its a crime.

it's indeed sad that people just never read first before replying for the sake of increasing post count,OP's point is literally like found a treasure accidentally without having attempt to steal,it's pure an accident so it's really different with the words "stealing" ,it could be debated but people keep talking that stealing is illegal without knowing the reason,really ironic

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Quote from: mk4 on August 26, 2016, 05:14:23 AM

Stealing in general is illegal. Bitcoins? Ofcourse. It's a currency. It's stealing money basically.

you are right, i dont know what is about bitcoins that people thing that it might be legal to steal it, stealing is always illegal for literally everything

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Quote from: diegz on August 26, 2016, 07:26:51 AM

Quote from: zend7 on August 26, 2016, 07:22:24 AM

Stealing is punishable by law and in some countries they even cut your arm for doing such thing. So stealing bitcoin is the same as you take someone else money without their permission. In the best case if you get caught you will end up in jail. Of course I don't know yet a single person from the hackers of bitcoin exchanges who have been caught so chances of you getting caught are really slim. But yes its illegal and you should stay away from it and be a good person with good behavior in general.

I don't think that you get OP's point... He said that he didn't mean to get those coins and it just so happen that when he generate an address it already have an amount stored in there and owned by someone else which OP also said that he is aware that it is very rare to happen... Though it was not his property, I think it is not stealing since he didn't do anything to get it except for generating an address.

He might not read the Ops queries first and he replied directly Grin

. Well , op generated an address which is already owned by someone thats why he ask if bitcoin sealing is illegal, for sure he would intend or try to get those bitcoin because he already have an access to it therefore if he got those bitcoin then its stealing and its a crime.

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Quote from: zend7 on August 26, 2016, 07:22:24 AM

Stealing is punishable by law and in some countries they even cut your arm for doing such thing. So stealing bitcoin is the same as you take someone else money without their permission. In the best case if you get caught you will end up in jail. Of course I don't know yet a single person from the hackers of bitcoin exchanges who have been caught so chances of you getting caught are really slim. But yes its illegal and you should stay away from it and be a good person with good behavior in general.

I don't think that you get OP's point... He said that he didn't mean to get those coins and it just so happen that when he generate an address it already have an amount stored in there and owned by someone else which OP also said that he is aware that it is very rare to happen... Though it was not his property, I think it is not stealing since he didn't do anything to get it except for generating an address.

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Stealing is punishable by law and in some countries they even cut your arm for doing such thing. So stealing bitcoin is the same as you take someone else money without their permission. In the best case if you get caught you will end up in jail. Of course I don't know yet a single person from the hackers of bitcoin exchanges who have been caught so chances of you getting caught are really slim. But yes its illegal and you should stay away from it and be a good person with good behavior in general.

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If you generate an address and then it come out in your address its mean its yours, its your luck, and its not called stealing, but if somebody claim that he owned the address and he can proved it and you refuse to return it then its called stealing, that is not good according to me, but if nobody claims or the person that come to you cant proved it, then its legally yours

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Quote from: Noctis Connor on August 26, 2016, 06:51:29 AM

ofcourse we all know that stealing bitcoin from someone is illegal activity but if someone accidentally sent you a tons of bitcoin then it his/her fault because how can you know that was a mistake it is her fault, how then can contact you that he/she needs that money back right? how if that bitcoin is from illegal also Cheesy

It's all comes under scam accusation, Try to log in your wallet with proper spells in address bar, try to install the desktop wallet instead online wallet and always escrow to be safer side in transactions.

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Regarding to your question of course it does because the word stealing is illegal in any ways but what have you take an example is very rare to happen and I think its impossible to happen tho, you cant generate a new bitcoin address that has bitcoin in it, even there are already hundred of thousands of bitcoin address no one will be the same address and no one used it before and that's the reason why it has a coin in it.

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