It seems to me that you are right, but you should not underestimate the manipulators, since if they want they will arrange another fall and this fall may turn out to be even stronger than the growth that we observed recently, which amounted to 40% per night, we are pawns on this battlefield , we should just follow the trend since we cannot control these trends and let's be realistic and will make some loud statements after something significant has happened, so far I only see a fall.
Undoubtedly, manipulators in the cryptocurrency market have always been present and acted for their own benefit, practically stealing their actions from gullible cryptocurrency users who inadequately respond to negative market indicators, and causing irreparable harm to the entire cryptocurrency market. But what happens today, when almost a 20% drop in Bitcoin and Ethereum prices over the past few days, are already driving me crazy and I don’t understand what could have affected so much. 
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It seems to me that you are right, but you should not underestimate the manipulators, since if they want they will arrange another fall and this fall may turn out to be even stronger than the growth that we observed recently, which amounted to 40% per night, we are pawns on this battlefield , we should just follow the trend since we cannot control these trends and let's be realistic and will make some loud statements after something significant has happened, so far I only see a fall.
In fact the price is still getting a sharp decline and for the time being I'm sure prices will continue to fluctuate to the extreme because at least we still need time until bitcoin halving happens next year. So when there is a sharp decline at the moment I think it's just a situation that might be said to make sense if there really would be a fast pump that occurred after the decline.
usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.
then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.
so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
I also think so, if the market at the moment seems to be being the market manipulated, because if we look at the fall in the price of BTC significantly in recent days, the price of BTC continues to decline and is nearing the lowest point of this year at $ 7300.then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.
so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
I think this trend will continue before entering 2020 but it seems like this is the right time, if you want to buy a BTC for you to keep.
The whales are just like us and we are also like them. We buy when the prices are down and sell when the prices are up. This is exactly what earning from cryptocurrency means. Volatility is going to become our friend if we are going to follow this. The difference between us and whales is that whales have large crypto amounts while we have little.
But whales are able to control us as small traders to buy at high prices and sell at low prices. Whales arranges everything, he arranges the ups and downs of the market easily, because they have big capital. so that we can compensate for whales we have to think like whales too. Don't be easy to get involved with FOMO, this is a whales game. 
usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.
then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.
so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
Q4 of the year is somewhat being anticipated from time to time knowing that bull run or price increase do happen in these times usually but not always a precise thing to rely on.then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.
so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
Asking on what would be the price or this might be the dip? No, we cant predict such thing thats why we've continue to speculate things here on this very unpredictable market.
Manipulation? Not a surprising thing yet there would always be big players who would got involved and can really influence market price depending to their likes.
The market is always being manipulated. With bitcoin less and less the higher the volume gets, it takes much more capital than in the past to move the market one way or the other. But alt markets are always being toyed with. The volume is just too small to avoid these manipulations. Always be careful of spikes in either direction it's usually a game being played.
i agree. the smaller the volume, the easier the p&d game is. with bitcoin,
you have to act nicely on manipulated messages to really change something.
but it's not that easy anymore and the overall market already has a certain stability.
not like shares for example, but it's not comparable.
There couls be a reason on why it being manipulated and doing a pump and dump strategy is really affecting a lot of people because they may panic on selling and buying but still whales win on this kind of situation.
And we can also take advantagr if its being manilulate by whales and we all know that crypto market will not stay at the bottom but it will definitely rise up their value.
The market is always being manipulated. With bitcoin less and less the higher the volume gets, it takes much more capital than in the past to move the market one way or the other. But alt markets are always being toyed with. The volume is just too small to avoid these manipulations. Always be careful of spikes in either direction it's usually a game being played.
i agree. the smaller the volume, the easier the p&d game is. with bitcoin,
you have to act nicely on manipulated messages to really change something.
but it's not that easy anymore and the overall market already has a certain stability.
not like shares for example, but it's not comparable.
Now the market seems to be like that because when the price of Bitcoin drops the prices of altcoins are kept decreasing. Most of the prices of the potential altcoins are decreasing in the market, we don't know exactly who is manipulating. Definitely whales will have a hand on it, which they can easily turn the market according to their way.
With the current market situation, the price of bitcoin dropped dramatically and continuously retreated to important milestones, that's really a sign that the whale is trying to set up a new plan for this market, many people will be able to feel that bitcoin is in the process of adjusting, whales cannot manipulate so strongly but no, whales may not be completely in control, but they have a strong impact on each person's psychology, daily panic and anxiety. The manipulation here is no longer in the price range, the manipulation here includes the price and psychology of the participantsI think the market is easily manipulated by the whales because 10 years ago bitcoin is really cheap even anybody can buy much of it if they can see the potential of this digital currency, and right now it does not rule out the possibility there are many people who hold hundred thousand of bitcoin on their wallet and they can easily pump and dump the market by spreading their assets into many exchanges
Now the market seems to be like that because when the price of Bitcoin drops the prices of altcoins are kept decreasing. Most of the prices of the potential altcoins are decreasing in the market, we don't know exactly who is manipulating. Definitely whales will have a hand on it, which they can easily turn the market according to their way.
With the current market situation, the price of bitcoin dropped dramatically and continuously retreated to important milestones, that's really a sign that the whale is trying to set up a new plan for this market, many people will be able to feel that bitcoin is in the process of adjusting, whales cannot manipulate so strongly but no, whales may not be completely in control, but they have a strong impact on each person's psychology, daily panic and anxiety. The manipulation here is no longer in the price range, the manipulation here includes the price and psychology of the participants
usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.
then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.
so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
Your thinking is not wrong and it is telling the truth that is happening in this crypto market. Everything is a mess when prices are constantly fluctuating without control. The whales are trying to manipulate the price of bitcoin so that in a few months, they will buy bitcoin back and create a surge.then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.
so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
and this could be a good sign for us to hold USDT and wait for the price to drop below $ 7k8.
It sure looks like it. Last week of October saw Bitcoin pumped 40% in just three days. Lots of bears wiped out. And now the price is almost back to where the pump started. It sure looked bullish back then and now what happened to it?
usually before the pump, the market always falls. and today I see the market experiencing a decline, especially for bitcoin and several other big altcoins. in recent days bitcoin may be able to hold above 9k, but in the end it still falls.
then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.
so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
I have also read about thoughts in this forum, I also think that many big traders manipulate and also use large exchanges to take advantage of moments in it, so I think this market manipulation is done to get more Bitcoin supplies from the hands of weak people who sell them cheap , so I can only buy it when a lot of crypto currencies go down at cheap prices today, one more thing is actually we are already in Q4 2019 then I wonder if this is really the downfall before the pump?
considering that soon we will enter the end of Q4 2019, and in Q2 2020 bitcoin will be halving. so now is the last time the Whales buy cheap btc. that's why the market was deliberately manipulated to make the price of bitcoin go down. and after that they pump slowly to look like market growth.
so what do you think, is my thinking wrong?
Now the market seems to be like that because when the price of Bitcoin drops the prices of altcoins are kept decreasing. Most of the prices of the potential altcoins are decreasing in the market, we don't know exactly who is manipulating. Definitely whales will have a hand on it, which they can easily turn the market according to their way.
The whales are just like us and we are also like them. We buy when the prices are down and sell when the prices are up. This is exactly what earning from cryptocurrency means. Volatility is going to become our friend if we are going to follow this. The difference between us and whales is that whales have large crypto amounts while we have little.
Whales always exist in every situation but if you take advantage of it, it will be very easy for you to make a profit because volatile market is good time for you to buy some coins. I am usually very interested in this and often make a small investment to mimic whale thinking. Of course, has not always been successful, but I have tried it during the last few years and there are many lessons when the market is volatile. 
We can see the price manipulation at the time of any crypto news coming like positive or negative. Those times we can see huge price manipulation being done by the traders as well as the big investors.
I am not sure why this manipulation has been occurred and when there is no big move now.
The price of bitcoin is stable so there is no manipulation happen right now. You can only see it if there are a large movement of the price like what happen in 2017. Obviously the price is manipualted in the last quarter of that year and take all thier profit after ,thats why we see the price back to 3000$ in early 2019 that was the negative effect of it.I am not sure why this manipulation has been occurred and when there is no big move now.
So many cases have told us if sometimes exchange can get an error. The manipulation is only not on its volume but the fact that the system of exchange site itself can be manipulated.
We know that the developer is a party that was holding all of the access to the exchange site itself.
The market is so unhealthy.
The whales are just like us and we are also like them. We buy when the prices are down and sell when the prices are up. This is exactly what earning from cryptocurrency means. Volatility is going to become our friend if we are going to follow this. The difference between us and whales is that whales have large crypto amounts while we have little.
They have huge amount where it can influence the market, whenever they move surely it will make impacts and traders simply followed them. It's sad when you miscalculates everything and you ended up being trapped since whales easily knows when to buy and sell with a sure profits in their hands. The very reason that observing and assessment is very important when you are working with volatile market, if you will not pay attention and you'll not be careful the outcome of your business always in the wrong side, take time to learned deeper to enhance your skills and not be bothered by anything but only by your own assumptions.
The whales are just like us and we are also like them. We buy when the prices are down and sell when the prices are up. This is exactly what earning from cryptocurrency means. Volatility is going to become our friend if we are going to follow this. The difference between us and whales is that whales have large crypto amounts while we have little.
might be being manipulated. but the question is, who is manipulating all the crypto markets? very likely to occur when this is related to the adoption of bitcoin on the market. but overall I don't think there is enough evidence to justify the existence of market manipulation that is now happening. Current markets are due to trade and demand. when everything goes down I guess it's still reasonable. not only in the crypto market but for all trades in any market using the same principle.
There are some entities in the market that can manipulate the price of all coins at the same time, they are called exchanges, and in my opinion they are one of the biggest obstacles for the progress of this market, they lie about the volume they have, they lie about the number of transactions on their books and they manipulate the price of many coins, what we need is for decentralized exchanges to be more popular and when that happens centralized exchanges and their manipulations will be a thing of the past. might be being manipulated. but the question is, who is manipulating all the crypto markets? very likely to occur when this is related to the adoption of bitcoin on the market. but overall I don't think there is enough evidence to justify the existence of market manipulation that is now happening. Current markets are due to trade and demand. when everything goes down I guess it's still reasonable. not only in the crypto market but for all trades in any market using the same principle.
No whales will reveal the information if they want to manipulate the market and actually there are some comments here are right since if they buy large volumes of coins and move it to exchange and sold then it can create a huge changes for the market price. You can also see the past news where manipulation occur and the perfect example with that are the past fuds scattering which affect the bitcoins price badly.Now get used to the facts and maybe this manipulation will last forever in this market.
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