Is there manipulation of sharks ? - page 2.

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Quote from: acheampong64 on September 13, 2018, 07:23:53 AM

well what you're saying is true. Sometimes we get very bad news but even after that the prices of the coins never stay low. For instance, China banned crypto trading somewhere in September last year but after that the prices went up and up amidst other bad news.
In that same way, there are times that bad news really brings down the prices down. A notable example is during the beginning of this year where the downfall begin amidst major bad news.

As Big players wanted to ride with the news when they've seen opportunities, when directions that we are expected the most was been redirected to the other side, I assume that not even the news will create impact not only if whales/sharks created the shake, as they can pumped it when they've seen
investors are starting to follow them, we need to be more careful assessing the charts any moment this big players can eat us alive inside the market.

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Quote from: boyknightvn on July 11, 2018, 09:30:01 AM

I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion

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As you can see, as of September nothing much happened with bitcoin yet, but is still going down.

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when we have a lot of money we can do, including manipulating the market price of a commodity, in this case bitcoin can also be manipulated, when sharks make large-scale sales automatically the price will fall free and at that time they also make purchases directly they reap multiple benefits, before they manipulate the following season

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well what you're saying is true. Sometimes we get very bad news but even after that the prices of the coins never stay low. For instance, China banned crypto trading somewhere in September last year but after that the prices went up and up amidst other bad news.
In that same way, there are times that bad news really brings down the prices down. A notable example is during the beginning of this year where the downfall begin amidst major bad news.

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We leave in a very very sad life. In which the big whales coordinate each and every little move that we can and may take. We are all their puppets and we can't do anything. It is sad that manipulations such as this one exist because there is a room in crypto market for everyone. Everyone can get reach small one and big ones...

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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 12, 2018, 11:44:40 AM

The hunger is there, it is getting obvious a lot of the institutions are beginning to see what the future holds and how turn of events may change for the positive and in that kind of stance, they had better pull it down to some reasonable extent, wipe out the weak hands and buy up a huge position, while they take the market back up and there is when we are going to start having the laggards who will be late to the show. The whales are always around the corner, and a single action from them, can always have an effect on the market,

Yes, unfortunately, in this world everything depends on whales. They decide what will happen tomorrow or the day after... This is very sad for ordinary people, as due to ignorance people can lose their entire budget or even commit suicide...

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Quote from: painting_money on September 10, 2018, 08:10:57 AM

As far as I can see, there are a number of factors that suggest shark's involvement in this market. In recent days, market capitalization has fallen sharply.

I think the pope or shark is a person who gets a lot of money so I can say more rich people get richer and many poor people become poorer because they invest or enter the crypto world that lacks knowledge.
of course there is a lot of manipulation in cryptocurrency because they have the power to control the value of all cryptocurrency

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Quote from: boyknightvn on July 11, 2018, 09:30:01 AM

I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion

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Thank you

Yes there are manipulation of sharks because the price in the market is constantly changing as well as the different medias that are creating fake news.

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Quote from: spongegar on September 11, 2018, 03:50:06 AM

I don't know about that but we can look at the prices of Bitcoin through the years. 2016 it was barely 1k USD per BTC. The year before that it was merely 500USD per BTC. but closing 2017, we experienced a whooping 18k USD per BTC. I think this is merely a correction of prices for BTC. I don't think millionaire big wigs are sitting in front of the monitors all day checking BTC prices

Well hackers and sharks does exist in every market which we all need to deal with care and attention, if we will wait for them to make price down or we will get effected by them so they will take benefit from our invokes they will say us to sell our coin and get them profit as they will buy at low price so it is not good to listen them just think yourself and never sell when price gets down too sharply.

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Quote from: mornabo on September 10, 2018, 08:34:00 PM

Some moments in the bitcoin market might be manipulation by some traders because they have a very large amount of funds in bitcoin itself, but that doesn't mean they can control market prices, they can do things like issues, speculations, etc that build so they can affect the market

Well, it is true but it is not like something new even before crypto market came into being. It has been happening in the stock markets, and most of it are always in response to the market movement or some certain news anyway, but usually due to the huge position they hold, it makes it easy for their actions to send a signal to the market, be it, a buying spree or a selling spree as the case may be. Speculation most especially for this market is a norm and which is the reason why a lot of us keep clamoring on the idea of people looking at the perspective of the value the market brings and not just about getting rich.

Quote from: PlusOne88 on September 10, 2018, 06:59:32 PM

the market is really complicated and I think it will be hard for them to manipulate. There are so many day traders and if sharks push the price up it is for certain that they will lose a lot because people will keep selling their bitcoins and the price will go down again.

The hunger is there, it is getting obvious a lot of the institutions are beginning to see what the future holds and how turn of events may change for the positive and in that kind of stance, they had better pull it down to some reasonable extent, wipe out the weak hands and buy up a huge position, while they take the market back up and there is when we are going to start having the laggards who will be late to the show. The whales are always around the corner, and a single action from them, can always have an effect on the market,

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Quote from: boyknightvn on July 11, 2018, 09:30:01 AM

I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion

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Thank you

I think this is possible that we had many sharks and whales manipulating the market as this is a decentralize currency and we can't control the amount of money in every wallet and those early investors had buy bag big amount of bitcoin at lower price. With every bad news those whales can ride with the situation and dumps huge amount of bitcoin to give panic to the investors. It's something that those who had money can manipulate in every situation.

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it is possible, they want to manipulate the market to get a profit to fill their fat belly.

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The price may be related to the overall situation, which is below a certain level. But those fluctuations that are living and damaging everyone are definitely shark jobs. Their manipulations affect the price of Bitcoin, while all other altcoins affect prices.

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Quote from: boyknightvn on July 11, 2018, 09:30:01 AM

I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion

.
Thank you

does it mean that exchanges are the whales in the market? whoa, seems possible to happen, since they are the ones whom we all turn to when we want to convert our bitcoin to other currencies, more exchange sites are on the hot seat nowadays for being hacked and there were some news regarding exchanges that fakes market data just to manipulate the market.

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It's been a long time, since I've heard this issue of price manipulation and the shark has something to do with it, but i am starting to believe it now. Back then, i never thought there are sharks and whales who'll gonna control the market. But now, as i see how the market reacts when sharks are selling their bitcoin, i believe it now.

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There is no doubt that current market conditions are the result of manipulation of the sharks, they expect the market to drop and can buy cheaply so they can get big profits someday.

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The manipulations of Bitcoin price by the big traders is very common in the crypto market. They have always manipulate the prices to favour themselves when they want to buy at low prices.

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Quote from: Joshapat on September 10, 2018, 10:45:47 AM

Quote from: Nnedaddy1 on September 10, 2018, 10:01:04 AM

Yes.
Sharks are given to price manipulation.
They manipulate price by putting more money into buying a particular coin which pushes up the price of that coin for their own selfish gains.

As long as they think that we can be controlled, this is what they expect, but I am sure that if users are patient and do not panic then their goals will fail, I always suggest being patient when the market drop.

Your are right about patience, this is what we need during days like these. We must understand that when we sell our coins at low we sell them to the speculators who will be selling the same coins but at higher price later either to us or to people like us. Although I think that when we sell we don't contribute to the price dropping because sharks have much more coins than all of us combined, I still think we shouldn't do that, because in such a way we make them, sharks and whales, richer, while what we need is the opposite. We need that all of those people sold their coins eventually, and stopped manipulating the market.

Well not everyone can react patiently or calmly to a sudden drop or increase in a coin's value that's why these people who have the means to manipulate the market will always do so. Fuds from dumps and fomo on pumps will always make many people react crazily.

you are right, this is a kind of greed and it has become human nature.
panic is part of weakness so the market is easy to manipulate.
no one can control prices so far other than those who have the influence of media and large capital. they are free to do anything to make a panic.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 11, 2018, 09:58:04 AM

Quote from: Joshapat on September 10, 2018, 10:45:47 AM

Quote from: Nnedaddy1 on September 10, 2018, 10:01:04 AM

Yes.
Sharks are given to price manipulation.
They manipulate price by putting more money into buying a particular coin which pushes up the price of that coin for their own selfish gains.

As long as they think that we can be controlled, this is what they expect, but I am sure that if users are patient and do not panic then their goals will fail, I always suggest being patient when the market drop.

Your are right about patience, this is what we need during days like these. We must understand that when we sell our coins at low we sell them to the speculators who will be selling the same coins but at higher price later either to us or to people like us. Although I think that when we sell we don't contribute to the price dropping because sharks have much more coins than all of us combined, I still think we shouldn't do that, because in such a way we make them, sharks and whales, richer, while what we need is the opposite. We need that all of those people sold their coins eventually, and stopped manipulating the market.

Well not everyone can react patiently or calmly to a sudden drop or increase in a coin's value that's why these people who have the means to manipulate the market will always do so. Fuds from dumps and fomo on pumps will always make many people react crazily.

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Quote from: Joshapat on September 10, 2018, 10:45:47 AM

Quote from: Nnedaddy1 on September 10, 2018, 10:01:04 AM

Yes.
Sharks are given to price manipulation.
They manipulate price by putting more money into buying a particular coin which pushes up the price of that coin for their own selfish gains.

As long as they think that we can be controlled, this is what they expect, but I am sure that if users are patient and do not panic then their goals will fail, I always suggest being patient when the market drop.

Your are right about patience, this is what we need during days like these. We must understand that when we sell our coins at low we sell them to the speculators who will be selling the same coins but at higher price later either to us or to people like us. Although I think that when we sell we don't contribute to the price dropping because sharks have much more coins than all of us combined, I still think we shouldn't do that, because in such a way we make them, sharks and whales, richer, while what we need is the opposite. We need that all of those people sold their coins eventually, and stopped manipulating the market.

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