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August 14, 2018, 12:45:42 PM
#90
There is a high probability that whales manipulate current prices to enter the market at the lowest possible price. Now we can see next falling prices which are very big. In my opinion we should see huge growth soon
large speculators always play a role in every bitcoin or other market price movement. they have a source of funds that can be used to manipulate the market.
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August 14, 2018, 12:37:57 PM
#89
I don't think that sharks can get many btc but who knows maybe in the future the situation will change for the better. To my mind, it is good to be a trader and to have btc for the long-term hold

I do believe that sharks has a big role on cryptocurrency pumping in the near future because if there are so many people who are going to invest on the market then the demand will increase as well as the price.
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August 14, 2018, 12:31:34 PM
#88
I don't think that sharks can get many btc but who knows maybe in the future the situation will change for the better. To my mind, it is good to be a trader and to have btc for the long-term hold
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August 14, 2018, 12:10:36 PM
#87
HSBC was involved in $100,000,000,000 money laundering in 2015. Price manipulation at the highest level in possible.

Huge amounts of money can be sent for illegal activities.
So in your opinion how it affect Bitcoin and Cryptocurrecy market ?, It make Cryptocurrency price rise or make they are prevented by government ?.
I want to know all of your opinion to gain experience and lesson in this market
Thank you Smiley

I think we already have gotten answer to this one, government dont like people using bitcoin for the illegal activities and they stated to ban it even there was no proof collected about it. However government stayed firm on their decision that bitcoin is being used that way and they banned it in many parts. Then after they gotten the proof that bitcoin was actually being used for the money laundering purpose and thus got involved into the illegal stuff. Not much far, they sooner exposed that its being blacked out in the dark web and being used for worst activities.

So the output of this discussion is, its not just the sharks and whales who are manipulating the market but dark site money driving force is also taking long part in this manipulation because they drive crazy money into them and sell off quickly.

Yeah and those bastards don't need crypto to do their own dirty work, they can just fly planes full of cash over when they need to send black market money somewhere. Then they just print more of the shit and make taxpayer foot the bill. If it's that easy, why would they need to do it with crypto?

Crypto represents more of a threat to their established authority than an opportunity. That's why the market cap is still so small. If it was really a tool they wanted to use for themselves, they would be pumping more money into it. But instead it is a danger, not just because of money laundering but because of subverting the banks.
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August 14, 2018, 11:57:47 AM
#86
Cryptocurrency moves as a sector on some days -> coins move in the same direction.

Coins generally move in inverse proportion to their market cap and liquidity -> Bitcoin moves the least when the entire market is moving.

That's pretty much all the explanation you need. No manipulation or conspiracies needed.
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August 14, 2018, 09:40:36 AM
#85
This might be true give the fact that we have some really bullish news lately and the market still keeps going down. Something big is comming.
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August 14, 2018, 04:45:54 AM
#84
There is a high probability that whales manipulate current prices to enter the market at the lowest possible price. Now we can see next falling prices which are very big. In my opinion we should see huge growth soon
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August 14, 2018, 04:41:14 AM
#83
It is not the sharks it is the whales who manipulates the market for their own targets for the price, they are all creating a scenario like this where they are all dumping their bitcoin to just create a panic selling scenario and when the people sold their bitcoins too then they will start getting those cheap bitcoins and fake pump bitcoin to create hype and make their profits.
This market of course will have the action, impact on the market. The first is the strong buying that causes it to rise every day. Then sell out large amounts to confuse the community. And the confused community, fearing the devaluation, sold off a relatively large amount of bitcoin. At the end of the bitcoin price down the floor they restarted the plan as originally. More money every day.
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August 12, 2018, 11:08:36 PM
#82
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August 12, 2018, 10:54:38 PM
#81
I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion Smiley.
Thank you Smiley
 
manipulation is a common things in cryptocurrency and the media is really affecting the market. As traders what we can do is try to use this manipulation to gain more profit from it and from media we could try to predict when to buy and when to force sell the coins that we hold.
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August 12, 2018, 10:44:32 PM
#80
HSBC was involved in $100,000,000,000 money laundering in 2015. Price manipulation at the highest level in possible.

Huge amounts of money can be sent for illegal activities.
So in your opinion how it affect Bitcoin and Cryptocurrecy market ?, It make Cryptocurrency price rise or make they are prevented by government ?.
I want to know all of your opinion to gain experience and lesson in this market
Thank you Smiley

I think we already have gotten answer to this one, government dont like people using bitcoin for the illegal activities and they stated to ban it even there was no proof collected about it. However government stayed firm on their decision that bitcoin is being used that way and they banned it in many parts. Then after they gotten the proof that bitcoin was actually being used for the money laundering purpose and thus got involved into the illegal stuff. Not much far, they sooner exposed that its being blacked out in the dark web and being used for worst activities.

So the output of this discussion is, its not just the sharks and whales who are manipulating the market but dark site money driving force is also taking long part in this manipulation because they drive crazy money into them and sell off quickly.
sr. member
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August 12, 2018, 10:24:55 PM
#79
It is not the sharks it is the whales who manipulates the market for their own targets for the price, they are all creating a scenario like this where they are all dumping their bitcoin to just create a panic selling scenario and when the people sold their bitcoins too then they will start getting those cheap bitcoins and fake pump bitcoin to create hype and make their profits.
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August 12, 2018, 09:47:53 PM
#78
This entire space is now under heavy banker manipulation.  You can almost sense the Wallstreet feel to it.  We are right in the middle of a shake out of the weak hands and the big boys are getting in.  So yes the entire thing is being manipulated. 
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August 12, 2018, 07:42:56 PM
#77
I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion Smiley.
Thank you Smiley
 
Most probably this is the case. Whales are the big traders and they can manipulate the price of bitcoin but not totally. They play a huge role in the market and they can dictate the price of it. I think these whales are using their power in market to even make them richer, and all of these are part of their plan.
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August 12, 2018, 04:38:36 PM
#76
I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion Smiley.
Thank you Smiley
 

Will in my own thinking theres a big possiblity that those whales traders are behind all of this manipulation of price value in the market caps and all exchanges,because they are the one would capable to make play all of this ups and down the price,and this all scandals coming from hacking system,china andcorrection of price ,they are the one capable of doing this so that the attention of small traders will blame into this problem happen now in digital sytem,but the real thruth are big whales behind all of this works.
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August 12, 2018, 04:13:27 PM
#75
Well the market is indeed full of manipulation, if there's no manipulation then you won't see a full green candle in a short time frame that completely wreck the resistance. The last bullrun is driven by manipulation and speculation and the whales fill their bag again when the bear comes.
Certainly there are efforts behind to the market to have its own fluctuations. And those who are not qualified will face difficulties. Turns the currency down and pulls other assets also affected.
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July 29, 2018, 01:59:48 PM
#74
It is possible to happen that there is a shark on the market manipulated the price on bitcoin and other crypto prices, IMO these people who continue spreading a fake and fraud news regarding bitcoin so that smallholders/investors will easily be got panic and sell their bitcoin that makes shark happy. We all know that bitcoin having a volatile so let's not get affected on that shark's let us hold and help the market green.
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July 29, 2018, 01:52:14 PM
#73
HSBC was involved in $100,000,000,000 money laundering in 2015. Price manipulation at the highest level in possible.

Huge amounts of money can be sent for illegal activities.
So in your opinion how it affect Bitcoin and Cryptocurrecy market ?, It make Cryptocurrency price rise or make they are prevented by government ?.
I want to know all of your opinion to gain experience and lesson in this market
Thank you Smiley

It is obvious his opinion is the fact that the market can easily be manipulated. Normally, market manipulation is an offense in the real world of finance and a lot has been sentenced for it.
However, for a market that is not controlled not regulated and everyone is busy doing their thing without being monitored by anyone and can even hide identities easily, we can for sure say manipulation is a way to go for a lot of them.

maybe
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July 29, 2018, 01:49:15 PM
#72
HSBC was involved in $100,000,000,000 money laundering in 2015. Price manipulation at the highest level in possible.

Huge amounts of money can be sent for illegal activities.
So in your opinion how it affect Bitcoin and Cryptocurrecy market ?, It make Cryptocurrency price rise or make they are prevented by government ?.
I want to know all of your opinion to gain experience and lesson in this market
Thank you Smiley

It is obvious his opinion is the fact that the market can easily be manipulated. Normally, market manipulation is an offense in the real world of finance and a lot has been sentenced for it.
However, for a market that is not controlled not regulated and everyone is busy doing their thing without being monitored by anyone and can even hide identities easily, we can for sure say manipulation is a way to go for a lot of them.
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July 28, 2018, 03:59:20 PM
#71
It ia not a myth that "big traders", funds and institutional investors control and manipulate nearly any kind of market because they have big capitals that why they can afford themselves to manipulate an asset which they are interested in. By the way if you were as rich as "big traders" you would likely manipulate market too.
What about bitcoin, bitcoin has showed the positive dynamic and currently bitcoin is a hub  which attract much more attention than other coins and that is well enough because I am holding BTC. I think that bitcoin will achieve 10000$ quite soon but it is a very strong level which is very difficult to overcome.
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