Is there manipulation of sharks ? - page 7.

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Quote from: boyknightvn on July 11, 2018, 10:30:01 AM

I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion

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Of course sharks did not own all bitcoins but most of it was at their disposal. Those big sharks that you say has a big portion of bitcoins owned that's why the price is on hold and does not go down to hundreds per Bitcoin. It does not mean they are manipulating the price, it just happen that they are holding a large fraction of bitcoins.

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yeah that's true. Last year, Bitcoins price was soaring even after China declared tits ban. It seems the bad don't give a shake always It can happen again so let's hold on tight.

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We have no proof of that. We dont know who is manipulating it. We cannot even see where it could have been sold. Too many exchanges now to list every dump or pump that will happen.

One thing I am sure. Bitcoin will rise again. For many users that are supporting it, bitcoin will take another bull run and somehow those who bought at 5 digits will get their ROI or better stay and support bitcoin more for they have experience how far it could go.

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All markets are manipulated, but while traditional markets only respond to very large entities, such as states and central banks, the crypto market is much more sensitive, and indeed its volatility demonstrates this.

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sometimes I am thinking the same thing because they the biggest influence in the market and they can manipulate it if the do.

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manipulation is always there, but not to throw everyone out of the market, and in order to be able to buy future technology cheaper

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It happens to almost all the markets, not only with bitcoin, so you need to be acostumbrated to see a manipulation to all the aspects of every market, stocks, bonds, commodities, and also gold and silver, so in btc is more than normal too.

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It is simply never believed anyone ever in the Bitcoin market, whenever you heard some rumors always check them yourself if you are curious about them never trust others to supply you correct information and you take a decision about them and make profit and losses. We are watching this type of free messages but connected and a lot of stuff from 2013.

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I'm quite confused with your statement. Whales (Not sharks, if that's what you mean) and scandals are different things.

Whales can affect bitcoin price if they decided to sell bitcoin as they have a huge amount of it affecting supply and demand correlation.

Scandals or negative news about bitcoin could affect bitcoin as it could prevent possible investors. Such as banning of bitcoin in a country.

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I do think it's being manipulated by sharks. In an hypothetical situation, you had a million dollars, wouldn't you manipulate the market? But then, isn't it the same with the stock exchange?

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Quote from: boyknightvn on July 11, 2018, 10:30:01 AM

I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion

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Thank you

There are several disputable points in your posts. Big traders has influenced markets since the beginning of "trading" (dating back to 16th century in Europe). If a big trader puts an enormous order in the market and moves price significantly then it is apparently not manipulation. However, queue jumping, insider trading and other practices are considered "manipulation", and I agree there most probably is such a manipulation in the Bitcoin market.

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To ask if there is manipulation of sharks is as to ask if there is water in the sea...

Of course there is a big manipulation, so the game consists in to predict in what direction the next manipulation will go...

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Quote from: boyknightvn on July 11, 2018, 10:30:01 AM

I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion

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Thank you

It is very hard to say that for sure because we bounced up to $7,500 and then we are sliding down again, so I am afraid to make any predictions because I can be wrong.

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Quote from: boyknightvn on July 11, 2018, 10:30:01 AM

I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion

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Thank you

The whales have manupilated the price every time to get the profits and now the prices went to as low as to $4k-$5k and they might have bought at that price level but now they will again try to pump the prices to gain profits so bull run will hit the market soon and prices will once again pump so hodl your coins of you want profits. The possible time for it is Q4 of this year and prices or all major coins will surge so have patience.

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whales got a lot of cheap BTC at 5/6k during the last months.
they can now pump the price a lot and make huge profits selling at 20k or more.
I'm waiting for a bullrun really soon.

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market manipulation is highly possible at the time of pump most buyers buy coins it is common phenomena those are the ones who get efforted every time when the market dumps

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Quote from: boyknightvn on July 14, 2018, 04:15:25 AM

How do you think Bitcoin price in WEX is higher 1000 USD than Coinmarketcap ?.

Right now the price of Bitcoin at WEX is sitting at $9,000. The enticing rates could be a bait because their withdrawals are disabled until 22 July and who knows they might extend it.

It's not a surprise that there are whales manipulating the price because there's no limit in holding Bitcoin to begin with.

Quote from: boyknightvn on July 18, 2018, 09:16:38 AM

My country often called whales is sharks Grin

. I kept my habit when wrote this article, I'm sorry for that Cheesy

. But I think calling Sharks so nice because it describes the massacre of the big traders Tongue

It's been a while since I heard the word shark here. A group of sharks could manipulate the price of Bitcoin if they use different exchanges. Whales can cause more damage than Sharks though since they're much bigger.

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Quote from: Cointoli on July 18, 2018, 10:04:32 AM

Quote from: cpkozak on July 18, 2018, 09:47:16 AM

I think this is quite possible. Because market capitalization is not big enough to get out of shark control.

The cryptocurrency market is dominated by wealthy investors and is still occurring due to the relatively small capitalization of the market compared to other financial markets in the world. I hope that in the coming time when the market grows stronger, it will no longer happen.

This is very true indeed and this is due to the low marketcap of the whole market, do not underestimate the whales, they have enough money to screw this marketcap and play freely with this marketcap, if the market grows stronger in price, and also people mature and learn not to sell when there is little FUD all will be good in my opinion, the market just needs to sit at at least 7 trillion $+ in order to not be dependent on the dumb money that flows out, also the whales can't manipulate and direct the market if the marketcap is a little bit higher.

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Quote from: boyknightvn on July 11, 2018, 10:30:01 AM

I feel that sharks (Big traders) haven't collect enough Bitcoins. You can see that there were scandals when Bitcoin price rose. The scandals were exchanges hacked, China suppressed Crypto, etc whenever Bitcoin price up.
It's not a good news for Bitcoin and prevent price rise but it still rising, is this a signal that Bitcoin coming back ?
How do you think about it ?. I want to know your opinion

.
Thank you

If sharks didn`t collect enough Bitcoin`s and they make scandals to knock down the price more so they can buy more cheap Bitcoin`s I think it`s
pretty clear what we need to do!
Bad news comes from sharks, you said it yourself! I don`t look that news as bad for Bitcoin, I look at that as public misrepresentation. Some fall on
that some don`t, in which group you belong decide for yourself.
Sharks and whales can manipulate, they can send bad signals, but I`m holding my Bitcoin`s and I`m looking how to buy more Bitcoin`s before next
huge rise.

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Quote from: cpkozak on July 18, 2018, 09:47:16 AM

I think this is quite possible. Because market capitalization is not big enough to get out of shark control.

The cryptocurrency market is dominated by wealthy investors and is still occurring due to the relatively small capitalization of the market compared to other financial markets in the world. I hope that in the coming time when the market grows stronger, it will no longer happen.

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