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i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time Grin

This is more reliable than from those people who claim that they know a game is fixed and they have a tip to sell. Well, as for me, I also have a feeling I know a game is fixed or not, but unfortunately, I don't win all my bet, so it's still a gambling for me and I'm just guessing at all.

yeah its more like a guess because who can verify anyway, right?

This makes your chance of winning like 40:50 if you accidentally bet on a fixed match, because you're not sure who's going to win. I mean if you made a bet thinking it is a decent match and trusted your information, but the truth is it is a fixed match, the only thing that could give you profit is when you bet on the right team that fixed the match. Fixed match is very annoying because all of your efforts researching on both teams is just nonsense.

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Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?

We are hard to assure that is happening in a certain league because their action will not show clearly in public and hide it from people, even if they watch close to the match. Only those in the circle will know if the game is a fixed match of the games. Even some players will not know about that. That issue will still issue and if there are no people who act as whistleblowers, that issue will still remain hidden from the public.

Agreed, but some whistleblowers will say anything but everything. However, there are instances when we see a dip in performance or something that isn't quite right, and we wish we could say it was fixed, but we can't be sure because we don't have proof. But if happen that the public will know it was fixed game they will be penalised.

What I am worried about the whistleblowers is they can get shut down by some people who protect the activity and will do anything to prevent someone from telling about the fixed matches to the public. Hopefully, that will be a concern to the clean officers who want to make the sports sporty, healthy, and clean from the fixed match, although doing that will not be easy as it was already rooted from a long time ago.

That's why, before the whistleblower made it public, it was most likely dead. Usually, fixed matches entail a large sum of money, which is extremely important. Officers are also paid, so they are more than likely to do their job. We can't do much about it, but just the owner or people around the game are legitimate, but when it comes to money, I believe that's when fixed matches occur.

Yes, that is because people who do that do not want to see the public know so that they will shut the person's mouth. Related to the money, they can hide it from the public because they are smart to make the secret transaction in a secret place. Only if some people related to that thing can speak to the media, the fixed matches will blow up and be investigated by the authority. Otherwise, that will continue for a long time.

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Quote from: bolawin on October 21, 2021, 03:48:40 AM

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Quote from: bolawin on October 21, 2021, 03:19:08 AM

i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time Grin

This is more reliable than from those people who claim that they know a game is fixed and they have a tip to sell. Well, as for me, I also have a feeling I know a game is fixed or not, but unfortunately, I don't win all my bet, so it's still a gambling for me and I'm just guessing at all.

yeah its more like a guess because who can verify anyway, right?

If you are watching games that you are betting hundreds or thousands of times, you'll get a hint if the match or game is fixed, there's really no way to know unless you get the information on a piece of very reliable information, or there is a whistle blower.

Countries put huge fines and penalties on game fixing because it takes away the fairness and excitement of the sports, sports should not be decided by one group but the efforts of players, teams, and organizations, sports fans will not patronize sports that's riddle with game-fixing.

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I personally don't really believe in that, but if you want to give it a try then I think there's nothing wrong with that either. Because after all, betting will be fine when we only bet with money that is ready to lose, right. So with the initial experiment that you do at least it will give you the results, with you already having the results then you are free to continue betting that way or not, but for me personally I will not believe it easily but it depends on the situation and conditions also.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on October 18, 2021, 09:48:30 AM

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

There is corruption in every organization and country much more in sporting events because they have a lot of money to be made from fixing games, if you received a tip about a game that will be fix check where it is coming be quiet and just bet, don't make a noise out of it because you are facing a big mafia and you will get in trouble by getting it on the public, there are organizations and agency that deal with it let them do their job.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on October 18, 2021, 09:48:30 AM

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Some low level games in some rural areas are fixed, that's for sure, and maybe those friends of your friend are sending him some "useful numbers", so to speak. And yeah, some money could be earned this way, but to me it's almost on the same level of dangerousness as a bank robbery. I mean, even if it's successful, most likely you'll end up very badly pretty soon.

It's actually a good thing, if your friend is just being scammed, like some people assumed in this thread. It's much worse if he's connected to people involved in match fixing.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on October 18, 2021, 09:48:30 AM

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Match fixing is illegal and run by criminals who are probably former players or player agents. And their modus operandi is mostly bet- related. These folks who do are mostly aiming to make financial gains as they consider it a high-profit and low risk. The long and short is that it is a crime in most countries that could make the offender be sent to jail.

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Quote from: Kasabus on October 21, 2021, 03:20:53 AM

Quote from: bolawin on October 21, 2021, 03:19:08 AM

i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time Grin

This is more reliable than from those people who claim that they know a game is fixed and they have a tip to sell. Well, as for me, I also have a feeling I know a game is fixed or not, but unfortunately, I don't win all my bet, so it's still a gambling for me and I'm just guessing at all.

yeah its more like a guess because who can verify anyway, right?

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on October 20, 2021, 02:55:14 PM

in this case you mention makes more sense to consider the possibility of some games being fixed
but do you think this also happens in entire plays where the whole team would know?

Back in 2006, when the Calciopoli scandal hit Italian Serie A. One match of Fiorentina and another team (I forgot which one it was) was fixed. But it wasn't fixed to profit from illegal betting. Fiorentina's president was a good friend of the guy who was the president of the opposing team. One of the clubs needed a draw to avoid being related to Serie B and the two friends had a meeting and agreed that their head-to-head meeting would be a tie. In such a scenario, you need both teams to know about it.

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Quote from: bolawin on October 21, 2021, 03:19:08 AM

i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time Grin

This is more reliable than from those people who claim that they know a game is fixed and they have a tip to sell. Well, as for me, I also have a feeling I know a game is fixed or not, but unfortunately, I don't win all my bet, so it's still a gambling for me and I'm just guessing at all.

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i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time Grin

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Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?

We are hard to assure that is happening in a certain league because their action will not show clearly in public and hide it from people, even if they watch close to the match. Only those in the circle will know if the game is a fixed match of the games. Even some players will not know about that. That issue will still issue and if there are no people who act as whistleblowers, that issue will still remain hidden from the public.

Agreed, but some whistleblowers will say anything but everything. However, there are instances when we see a dip in performance or something that isn't quite right, and we wish we could say it was fixed, but we can't be sure because we don't have proof. But if happen that the public will know it was fixed game they will be penalised.

What I am worried about the whistleblowers is they can get shut down by some people who protect the activity and will do anything to prevent someone from telling about the fixed matches to the public. Hopefully, that will be a concern to the clean officers who want to make the sports sporty, healthy, and clean from the fixed match, although doing that will not be easy as it was already rooted from a long time ago.

That's why, before the whistleblower made it public, it was most likely dead. Usually, fixed matches entail a large sum of money, which is extremely important. Officers are also paid, so they are more than likely to do their job. We can't do much about it, but just the owner or people around the game are legitimate, but when it comes to money, I believe that's when fixed matches occur.

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It is possible to identify the match fixing plan by monitoring the gamblers market before the match by monitoring the market where the gamblers have during the match, one can get a definite idea about distorting the match. When match fixing is done through gamblers, gamblers communicate with players team officials and or referees and usually make money transactions communication or money transactions between them can sometimes be identified and legal action can be taken against them by the court or the organizing group of a particular game. Again sometimes the whole team is involved in match fixing for future convenience which is very difficult to prove.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on October 20, 2021, 11:49:45 AM

Quote from: michellee on October 20, 2021, 08:14:37 AM

Quote from: Finestream on October 20, 2021, 03:46:44 AM

Quote from: bakasabo on October 20, 2021, 03:13:05 AM

Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?

We are hard to assure that is happening in a certain league because their action will not show clearly in public and hide it from people, even if they watch close to the match. Only those in the circle will know if the game is a fixed match of the games. Even some players will not know about that. That issue will still issue and if there are no people who act as whistleblowers, that issue will still remain hidden from the public.

Agreed, but some whistleblowers will say anything but everything. However, there are instances when we see a dip in performance or something that isn't quite right, and we wish we could say it was fixed, but we can't be sure because we don't have proof. But if happen that the public will know it was fixed game they will be penalised.

What I am worried about the whistleblowers is they can get shut down by some people who protect the activity and will do anything to prevent someone from telling about the fixed matches to the public. Hopefully, that will be a concern to the clean officers who want to make the sports sporty, healthy, and clean from the fixed match, although doing that will not be easy as it was already rooted from a long time ago.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 18, 2021, 10:09:41 AM

Nobody likes fixed matches but then again, the question is how do you find out if there was any fixing? I don't think its possible in most cases. And if a match is fixed not many people will know about it, if any at all.

The whole point is keeping the fixing under tight wraps so nobody else gets in on the action.

But as far as fixing them, its all up to the top dogs. If they want to fix it, they will and nobody will be the wiser. Roll Eyes

Yes I also doubt that. Fixing matches is a tough thing to pull off even for the criminals. I wonder, why would those who intend to fix matches want that information to be publicly available? Does that help them in any way?

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 20, 2021, 06:27:00 PM

Quote from: Pmalek on October 20, 2021, 11:21:38 AM

Fixed games exist, but whoever is "selling" them online for $10 doesn't have any info about them. There are various reasons why matches get fixed. It's not always to profit from illegal gambling, although that is surely one of the biggest reasons they exist.

Sometimes clubs help each other when one of them needs a point or two to reach certain goals. If you let us win today, we will return the favor when you need it. I am sure matches get fixed as part of the negotiations when signing new players. The club might be willing to drop the asking price if they win the next time they meet.

All you need is one player to fix a match. Football bets on markets such as "will there be a penalty" or "will there be a red card" bring good returns. For such a fix all you need is the keeper or one if the defenders to concede a penalty or make a tackle where he will be shown a red card. The entire team doesn't need to know about it. They might not even lose the match.

A lot of scammers/spammers for example, on Telegram, like to sell their lies because they know that telegram is so anonymous that nobody will ever come after them. Obviously not for small amounts like 10 dollars.

The REAL fixers don't sell their info. That would make no sense since they would be losing money that they could win instead.

I doubt more than 10 people will ever be in on the real info.

Out of 10 people then 10 of those are fake and scammers and also $10 for leaked info is just too dumb for you to believe on and you would just be basically wasting up your own money on believing with those bullshit things.
You should be at least having that common sense for you to able to avoid such scenario.Fixed matches do exist but you couldnt expect that it would be sell out with 10 bucks.
You would need to shell out thousands of dollars before you could attain those things but you should be wise that they wont really be something easy to attain or can be found.

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Quote from: Pmalek on October 20, 2021, 11:21:38 AM

Fixed games exist, but whoever is "selling" them online for $10 doesn't have any info about them. There are various reasons why matches get fixed. It's not always to profit from illegal gambling, although that is surely one of the biggest reasons they exist.

Sometimes clubs help each other when one of them needs a point or two to reach certain goals. If you let us win today, we will return the favor when you need it. I am sure matches get fixed as part of the negotiations when signing new players. The club might be willing to drop the asking price if they win the next time they meet.

All you need is one player to fix a match. Football bets on markets such as "will there be a penalty" or "will there be a red card" bring good returns. For such a fix all you need is the keeper or one if the defenders to concede a penalty or make a tackle where he will be shown a red card. The entire team doesn't need to know about it. They might not even lose the match.

A lot of scammers/spammers for example, on Telegram, like to sell their lies because they know that telegram is so anonymous that nobody will ever come after them. Obviously not for small amounts like 10 dollars.

The REAL fixers don't sell their info. That would make no sense since they would be losing money that they could win instead.

I doubt more than 10 people will ever be in on the real info.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on October 18, 2021, 09:48:30 AM

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Match fixing is illegal in my country hence I will eave off that team once I come know about the match fixing. Usually the highly talented team are the primary target for bookies to get them fixed for a huge money. So, next time if you come across an underdog is winning then money might have played a very big role. Shocking and surprises in sports industry is most common but unfortunately bookies exploit those similar salutations.

In my opinion, fixed matches are the real cancer in gambling industry hence I believe that we must stay from such matches.

No matter where you go then fixed matching would always been illegal because if its allowed then it cant really be called betting on the first place since it is already on that manipulative side of things.
Whenever you do get some info's like these on random stranger then it is mostly a fraud or scam and dont tend to believe it or even into someone which are known in sports.
You cant be sure if those are just random or wild guesses or totally a real fixed matches but getting these kind of info is something really hard to to acquire unless if youre filthy rich.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on October 18, 2021, 09:48:30 AM

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

You were with your friend who claims that he got some random numbers that were sent to him and he was placing bets, you could have seen first hand whether he won or not and you could have asked him how he got them. It was far better than asking us here who does not have any idea how to find fixed matches Tongue

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I think this is far from it. Your most unlikely to get an answer on how these games got fixed and the numbers went round. A magician never shows the what's beneath his sleeves, that would be letting the cat out if the bag. They tend to keep this a secrete for some 9bvious confidential reasons though, I doubt games are really fixed, its always a result of some deep prediction but then, the results can always go sideways as it is with predictions and betting. There would be lucks at times but, fixing bets is really rear especially in top leagues but possible in the minor leagues where you see a lot of dominance from from particular time.

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