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Quote from: Oilacris on October 22, 2021, 05:27:06 PM

There are lots of factors that could really be possibly seen if you are a sports fan but is there something we can do?

Just go with the flow as usual. In the first place, before placing a bet on a certain match, we don't know if it will be fixed or not.

Still the same, we don't know what will be the result and we are gambling. But in the long run, if some shit match that is obviously a fixed match will happen regularly, it will affect the reputation of that league and eventually, viewers will be drastically decreased along the way.

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In my own opinion, it's honestly can be done between both teams.... don't forget if politics can be rigged by group of people then why not football ?
Their are under-dogs who run all of this under ground with the sole aim to get more money.

FIFA as the overall body of football is against this act,if caught while be totally dealt without pity or mercy.
Majority don't believe such can be done, but I feel this shits are done.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on October 22, 2021, 06:07:14 PM

Quote from: Oilacris on October 22, 2021, 05:27:06 PM

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Fans arent that blind or dumb on not to notice if there's something wrong with the game even though its heavily fixed and trying to be looking realistic but cant really be denied if theres something fishy behind.

There are lots of factors that could really be possibly seen if you are a sports fan but is there something we can do?

Well this is true --as being fans we can easily insight those fishy activities and if they are doing something not good.
Fixed game matches are easily be determined because as fans we know that the match is manipulated especially if we know very well the players who played and have matches. Perhaps a fixed match is not just easy, it needs to have a huge amount to pay those who belong the sabotage action.

Of course, they need a big amount of money and it's always included everytime you see something great. It would just take an hour or so to destroy their career on front of their fans I wonder some of them would still be playing or some won't be watching them to play because of how dirty they play.

As a fans we can do something to them, we just don't go watch with them anymore since we already know how they've sold their reputation to some businessman who can pay for almost everything while destroying the career of the players.

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Quote from: Oilacris on October 22, 2021, 05:27:06 PM

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Fans arent that blind or dumb on not to notice if there's something wrong with the game even though its heavily fixed and trying to be looking realistic but cant really be denied if theres something fishy behind.

There are lots of factors that could really be possibly seen if you are a sports fan but is there something we can do?

Well this is true --as being fans we can easily insight those fishy activities and if they are doing something not good.
Fixed game matches are easily be determined because as fans we know that the match is manipulated especially if we know very well the players who played and have matches. Perhaps a fixed match is not just easy, it needs to have a huge amount to pay those who belong the sabotage action.

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Quote from: TinaK on October 22, 2021, 05:14:53 PM

Quote from: Sled on October 22, 2021, 04:56:52 PM

Quote from: Masplanc on October 22, 2021, 04:25:34 PM

Yeah....this can actually be true, irrespective of the good faces we see around the field and pitch... Coaches, player's and referees actually come in agreement to fix matches.
Although if caught will be banned from life, recently former Chelsea and Spanish international Diego Costa was being investigated by the police for allegations about Match fixing.

It is all about money, they offer a big amount of money that makes you paralyzed and follow what they have said. They don't care about their reputation as they think about how much they could get from manipulating the game. This is not new, I think and it never stops. But this will disappoint the players knowing that it was just a fixed match and ruin the image of sports.

This is very common in the gambling sports industry, there are too many underground activities just for the money that they can get. I think we can consider them as a whale just like on the crypto industry because they are also manipulating the game or the entire sports.
But I think not all of them, there are also sports that are highly regulated well monitored, just like in WBO, they are now pointing opponent pairing per match and I think no one will stake their reputation that has built for a long time.

For sure there is but wont really be that too obvious because they do know on whats on stake if ever they get caught.Performing a rigged game isnt something that can really be done flawlessly.

Fans arent that blind or dumb on not to notice if there's something wrong with the game even though its heavily fixed and trying to be looking realistic but cant really be denied if theres something fishy behind.

There are lots of factors that could really be possibly seen if you are a sports fan but is there something we can do?

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Quote from: Sled on October 22, 2021, 04:56:52 PM

Quote from: Masplanc on October 22, 2021, 04:25:34 PM

Yeah....this can actually be true, irrespective of the good faces we see around the field and pitch... Coaches, player's and referees actually come in agreement to fix matches.
Although if caught will be banned from life, recently former Chelsea and Spanish international Diego Costa was being investigated by the police for allegations about Match fixing.

It is all about money, they offer a big amount of money that makes you paralyzed and follow what they have said. They don't care about their reputation as they think about how much they could get from manipulating the game. This is not new, I think and it never stops. But this will disappoint the players knowing that it was just a fixed match and ruin the image of sports.

This is very common in the gambling sports industry, there are too many underground activities just for the money that they can get. I think we can consider them as a whale just like on the crypto industry because they are also manipulating the game or the entire sports.
But I think not all of them, there are also sports that are highly regulated well monitored, just like in WBO, they are now pointing opponent pairing per match and I think no one will stake their reputation that has built for a long time.

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Quote from: Masplanc on October 22, 2021, 04:25:34 PM

Yeah....this can actually be true, irrespective of the good faces we see around the field and pitch... Coaches, player's and referees actually come in agreement to fix matches.
Although if caught will be banned from life, recently former Chelsea and Spanish international Diego Costa was being investigated by the police for allegations about Match fixing.

It is all about money, they offer a big amount of money that makes you paralyzed and follow what they have said. They don't care about their reputation as they think about how much they could get from manipulating the game. This is not new, I think and it never stops. But this will disappoint the players knowing that it was just a fixed match and ruin the image of sports.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 18, 2021, 09:09:41 AM

Nobody likes fixed matches but then again, the question is how do you find out if there was any fixing? I don't think its possible in most cases.

It's not possible at all. And if someone tells your that he knows that match will be fixed, he or insider or liar. The last one is the most (like 95 %) probable. Because to be caught on fixed match is the end of carrier for football players, their trainers and judges. So even if such things happens, only narrow circle of people will know about that.

Not your friends and some dudes from internet who ask you to pay 5 dollars for such information

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Yeah....this can actually be true, irrespective of the good faces we see around the field and pitch... Coaches, player's and referees actually come in agreement to fix matches.
Although if caught will be banned from life, recently former Chelsea and Spanish international Diego Costa was being investigated by the police for allegations about Match fixing.

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Quote from: dothebeats on October 22, 2021, 12:24:59 PM

Coaches, players, and team owners consent to match fixing that’s for sure, because match fixing wouldn’t happen in the first place if there are no insiders involved in the bets. Most of the time, they do these on leagues that don’t really matter, but still is a hype one yet the profit that they get from winning the games aren’t really something compared to the potential profits that they can get on match fixing. I certainly would bet on such matches in a heartbeat if I do have the insider information, though a part of me thinks that it is wrong and unethical, but whatever.

^ For sure they also get paid for this kind of fraud.
I heard on boxing before that there is a match-fixing and also in NBA there is a match-fixing in order to continue the series longer.
I don't know how they manipulate such games but I think for now it is rare that there is match-fixing, players have their dignity and fighting with their own reputation and I don't think this is very common to happen. I could probably be unethical because there is no proof about this, because it could be a serious case if ever someone caught.

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Quote from: mindrust on October 21, 2021, 11:56:20 PM

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There was a time when the forum was infected with scammers like these, selling books claiming that they have some of the advanced tricks that they discovered to make money and other gambling related tricks and so on and there were many who would provide fake vouches and i am glad we are not seeing those stupid things here anymore.

Some vouches were made through really good 'now-Legendary' members of the forum so I guess they cannot be fake. Some methods worked too, and it is correct too that nobody would sell a winning strategy. But there are a few who don't have a big bankroll with them, they try to play with small funds and win big, then they decide to share the formula with others but through selling it. Once they make up their mind, they write and sell their ebooks to others. Some may find it useful, while for big bankroll holders, it may not be of any use as if they follow that strategy, they may also lose big because the seller gambled without any fear due to small bankroll.

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Quote from: mindrust on October 21, 2021, 11:56:20 PM

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You always try to make the victims believe that they are scamming you (it is a good deal) but in reality you are scamming them. The oldest trick in the world.

Selling ebooks is another example. 99.9% of the time the information you'll get from those books is bullshit. If the information had any value, he wouldn't sell it.

There was a time when the forum was infected with scammers like these, selling books claiming that they have some of the advanced tricks that they discovered to make money and other gambling related tricks and so on and there were many who would provide fake vouches and i am glad we are not seeing those stupid things here anymore.

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Quote from: dothebeats on October 22, 2021, 12:24:59 PM

Coaches, players, and team owners consent to match fixing that’s for sure, because match fixing wouldn’t happen in the first place if there are no insiders involved in the bets. Most of the time, they do these on leagues that don’t really matter, but still is a hype one yet the profit that they get from winning the games aren’t really something compared to the potential profits that they can get on match fixing. I certainly would bet on such matches in a heartbeat if I do have the insider information, though a part of me thinks that it is wrong and unethical, but whatever.

Wrong or unethical for others but for majority then this wont really be a bothersome thing which they could really make out bets if they do know that they could really take
advantage from that but the question is, how you would able to acquire those info? For sure you would need to shell out money to acquire those information
which you couldnt get elsewhere.Of course it wouuld really be needing up some consent from all people who do get involved for a fully fixed match game.

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Coaches, players, and team owners consent to match fixing that’s for sure, because match fixing wouldn’t happen in the first place if there are no insiders involved in the bets. Most of the time, they do these on leagues that don’t really matter, but still is a hype one yet the profit that they get from winning the games aren’t really something compared to the potential profits that they can get on match fixing. I certainly would bet on such matches in a heartbeat if I do have the insider information, though a part of me thinks that it is wrong and unethical, but whatever.

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Quote from: Pmalek on October 21, 2021, 02:33:21 AM

Back in 2006, when the Calciopoli scandal hit Italian Serie A.
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In such a scenario, you need both teams to know about it.

Ahhh those memories, I almost forgot about that Calciopoli scandal.

At the time, a number of clubs were involved, including Juventus. If I remember correctly, the involvement of the referees could also be proven, which puts the crown on the whole thing when both several clubs and the referees are involved.

But I also remember games in the German Bundesliga where the heavy favorites lost to complete underdogs at the end of the season, so that they managed to stay in the league. What surprises me is that in such cases all/most of the players and the coach have to be in on it. Otherwise, it would be very difficult for this to work cause the chance that someone will "spill the beans" is correspondingly high.

No one would really spill out the beans since they've been paid out well and for sure there would be some sort of personal agreements or terms to those people who could be possibly involved.
And its really hard to determine before but when the game starts then things turns out to be noticeable when you do see movements which arent casual for them for you to see.
Fixed matches are there and possible but its really hard to be proven out unless if there's some leaking info about it.

This is true, after all if someone makes a mistake most of the time the fans will just attribute this to an accident or to a temporary decrease on their performance level but they will no attribute this to cheating, most of the cheating scandals that we know about are the ones in which one of the participants decides to talk about it, so as long as the players and the ones fixing the matches remain silent it is very difficult to prove that what it is happening on the field is part of a fixed game.

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In contrast with its term fixed matches, I feel like assurance is not something that is merited out of it. Winning does not necessarily mean to be the outcome of indulging with fixed matches, not unless accurate information are gathered which can be considered as classified, thus money must be spent before such information come at hand.

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Quote from: smyslov on October 22, 2021, 06:36:32 AM

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There's such a thing as game-fixing if you get a tip from a very reliable source and you are 100% sure of it, that's your chance to win big, it's still risky because there is such a thing as changing of decision from fixers, the game-fixing can make or break you if you believe that the result will come from a reliable source, game fixing is complicated and the organization is always on the watch for game fixing.

If you really think that a match is fixed, i will get away from the match because you cannot predict how the match will play out. But to think that you will get to hear about information if a match is fixed is ludicrous, either you are a big shot who has a friend who gambles and spends millions of dollars and even if it is fixed those information are not going anywhere until you have the authority to track their communications Tongue

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Quote from: Rruchi man on October 18, 2021, 08:48:30 AM

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

There's such a thing as game-fixing if you get a tip from a very reliable source and you are 100% sure of it, that's your chance to win big, it's still risky because there is such a thing as changing of decision from fixers, the game-fixing can make or break you if you believe that the result will come from a reliable source, game fixing is complicated and the organization is always on the watch for game fixing.

Fixed games are rare and no one will give 100% assurance on the results so its our own responsibility if we are taking risks against such situations anyway fixing games are not legal so you can face legal issues even if you win the match and got rewards unless you are in an underworld casino.

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Quote from: mindrust on October 21, 2021, 11:56:20 PM

Selling ebooks is another example. 99.9% of the time the information you'll get from those books is bullshit. If the information had any value, he wouldn't sell it.

This could be true, but somehow an ebook would teach us how to manage ourself in gambling, actually bankroll management and discipline are both very important, winning a bet is quite different, it cannot be written in the book that is up to a gambler's ability to analyze the game before putting a bet and win.

I believe that reading a book can be helpful for people who are getting in touch with something for the first time... I didn't read any books, all that I learned came from people who were doing it, and in discussions with them and practicing I learned about gambling! And I think it's a better way, and a lot easier to understand! As Mindrust says "99.9% of the time the information you'll get from those books is bullshit." This is because you need a piece of simple information, but a book writer needs a whole book, so he is using long and complicated sentences, he is decorating everything he can... so reading it you can get lost in all the unnecessary stuff!

That's why I don't read ebook as it's time consuming, I'm actually more attracted to reading a random posts like in a forum as I know they are more genuine and they share according to their experience. I have a lot of forums that I follow that's why I learn about sports betting, terms like sports rigging, line movement and trap, these are only few you'll learn from people who are experience enough in sports betting.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on October 18, 2021, 08:48:30 AM

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

There's such a thing as game-fixing if you get a tip from a very reliable source and you are 100% sure of it, that's your chance to win big, it's still risky because there is such a thing as changing of decision from fixers, the game-fixing can make or break you if you believe that the result will come from a reliable source, game fixing is complicated and the organization is always on the watch for game fixing.

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