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Quote from: Viscore on October 23, 2021, 04:59:14 PM

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Quote from: Joca97 on October 23, 2021, 06:34:15 AM

Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

I know about various tipsters online on telegram who try to sell fixed matches that come from amature leagues, claiming that their games are 100% loss proof and they also show bets of 30 to 300 eur turned to 3k and 30k. And the slip is not just one, and when I check the match results I find the same what he promoted. Should these games be trusted? A big part of these tipsters ask for Nigerian Naira, do they really know about the outcome of the game before it starts?

If the tips are accurate then you should trust it, it's not important where the tip is coming as long as you are winning. In my case, I don't really believe that someone could just give a tip on a fixed game as it's hard to find a reliable one, but based on the output, I would consider believing and maybe subscribe if it's necessary to get consistent tips.

Then how you would recognize accurate tips or info?

You could not just say its legit when you do won once or twice because everything could happen where you couldnt tell if its real or not and fixed information about matches isnt something

that you could really get easily without shelling out big money but if you do see something you do get on random or just some given tips then i wont
really be putting any trust to that.

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Quote from: Joca97 on October 23, 2021, 06:34:15 AM

Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

I know about various tipsters online on telegram who try to sell fixed matches that come from amature leagues, claiming that their games are 100% loss proof and they also show bets of 30 to 300 eur turned to 3k and 30k. And the slip is not just one, and when I check the match results I find the same what he promoted. Should these games be trusted? A big part of these tipsters ask for Nigerian Naira, do they really know about the outcome of the game before it starts?

If the tips are accurate then you should trust it, it's not important where the tip is coming as long as you are winning. In my case, I don't really believe that someone could just give a tip on a fixed game as it's hard to find a reliable one, but based on the output, I would consider believing and maybe subscribe if it's necessary to get consistent tips.

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Quote from: Joca97 on October 23, 2021, 06:34:15 AM

Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

I know about various tipsters online on telegram who try to sell fixed matches that come from amature leagues, claiming that their games are 100% loss proof and they also show bets of 30 to 300 eur turned to 3k and 30k. And the slip is not just one, and when I check the match results I find the same what he promoted. Should these games be trusted? A big part of these tipsters ask for Nigerian Naira, do they really know about the outcome of the game before it starts?

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Quote from: Joca97 on October 23, 2021, 06:34:15 AM

Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

Agree on this one because in lower leagues there's no much focus and it wont really be that obvious if they have done it compared into those popular or big matches
where there are lots of audience and fans that do look upon then for sure executing any act of fixed matches would really be somewhat risky if they would
would really be get caught and would be penalized on what they have done thats why we arent really seeing that commonly but just like what you
said that it is indeed possible to happen.

The risk is high, but not impossible to happen. There are rumors about big leagues and the illegally fixed matches behind. Though there are no proven case coming from big leagues but from those small organizations, this kind of activities are really covering the entire sports. Match fixers are all over the place, from the organizers up to the officiating officials.

They are all involved without a trace. Better to not to affiliate yourself or involve yourself if you do see that fixed matches are already circulating the league that you are betting.

There are many available sports, all you have to do is to continue doing your DYOR and hope for luck to play with you. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Joca97 on October 23, 2021, 06:34:15 AM

Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

Agree on this one because in lower leagues there's no much focus and it wont really be that obvious if they have done it compared into those popular or big matches
where there are lots of audience and fans that do look upon then for sure executing any act of fixed matches would really be somewhat risky if they would
would really be get caught and would be penalized on what they have done thats why we arent really seeing that commonly but just like what you
said that it is indeed possible to happen.

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Quote from: fiulpro on October 23, 2021, 09:06:36 AM

Fixed matches are as real as the normal ones.
Well how you would react to them does depend on you mainly, well you can try and ignore it or you may try and make profits out of them.
At the same time you have to choose to believe in the information or no, it solely depends on you and at the end of the day, it's illegal.
Some coaches takes bribes but most of the times it's individual players who are getting sold out on the black market, plus they actually can get banned if they do decide to go with that therefore its not really ethical or looked in a good way it.
Ignore it if you do find such information. Don't get involved with illegal things.

Well said. Indeed, even if fixed matches are really there taking its existence and appeal to many of the players, it is still our call to depend on it, benefit from it, or just ignore it. Considering that these matches can be identified as illegally constructed, then we surely have to stand a say on this matter. But regardless of choice, it is solely on you.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on October 18, 2021, 09:48:30 AM

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Fixed matches are as real as the normal ones.
Well how you would react to them does depend on you mainly, well you can try and ignore it or you may try and make profits out of them.
At the same time you have to choose to believe in the information or no, it solely depends on you and at the end of the day, it's illegal.
Some coaches takes bribes but most of the times it's individual players who are getting sold out on the black market, plus they actually can get banned if they do decide to go with that therefore its not really ethical or looked in a good way it.
Ignore it if you do find such information. Don't get involved with illegal things.

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Quote from: dothebeats on October 22, 2021, 01:24:59 PM

Coaches, players, and team owners consent to match fixing that’s for sure, because match fixing wouldn’t happen in the first place if there are no insiders involved in the bets. Most of the time, they do these on leagues that don’t really matter, but still is a hype one yet the profit that they get from winning the games aren’t really something compared to the potential profits that they can get on match fixing. I certainly would bet on such matches in a heartbeat if I do have the insider information, though a part of me thinks that it is wrong and unethical, but whatever.

This is a rather interesting thought, because on the one hand, making profit from other people's crimes is very similar to complicity in a crime, on the other hand, information costs money and if you have it in any way, then it is your work that must also be paid Cheesy

I do not know what I would have done knowing about the match fixing, but most likely I would not have made a bet because I simply do not believe in it.

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Quote from: Joca97 on October 23, 2021, 06:34:15 AM

Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

Some big bookies may have inside news and therefore they may tell you about these fix matches. Everyone knows that these fix matches can be a scam or the leak information could be wrong too, but gamblers still take risk because of the greed.
If you see any fixed match being gambled or any suspicious activity on game, better report it so more people are aware of it and avoid the scams.

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Quote from: Joca97 on October 23, 2021, 06:34:15 AM

it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed

You mean only owners kind of bigshots/rich people alone participating in betting with fixed matches in big leagues? Theoretically when you are fixing a match against underdogs and when most bettros will go betting for stronger team then you will get amazing odds in favor of underdog and fixing the match in favor of underdog will get you massive profits.

Yeah, I agree big league's top team/player's match fixing must be kept secret so that most bettors will go wrong and lose their bet amounts. Honestly I never got any chances to think this way as I never get any info on match fixing to bet with.

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Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

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Fixed matches come in variety of ways and there's no definitive way to describe a fixed match other than the fact that it is a matched that is rigged to win one's side over the other even before the game starts. It violates the sportsmanship aspect of every sport which is why it is illegal to do so, but of course things like these happen still in some games. I believe the numbers your brother has been given are rigged numbers that he can bet on that would automatically win him the game. Not so sure however if this is some kind of score betting your brother is in though.

Quote from: bitgov on October 23, 2021, 04:15:00 AM

In my opinion, fixed matches can only happen in low leagues and some niche sporting events, such as boxing matches at the amateur level or very early stages of the career. I don't think anyone will risk fixing maches in major leagues or at international level events. That is why I only bet on large events and main leagues where the risk of such a situation is almost zero.

Some fixed games also happen in the big leagues. Any form of disadvantageous tactic a team or a facilitator makes to favor one team over the other is considered as a fixing anyway. Last time I watched MLB I saw someone being given a corked bat which is a big violation in baseball games because it gives the batter an unfair speed advantage over the pitcher. And as far as I know that is from a big league game so these fixed matches really exist in any type of game at any ranks.

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Quote from: bitgov on October 23, 2021, 04:15:00 AM

In my opinion, fixed matches can only happen in low leagues and some niche sporting events, such as boxing matches at the amateur level or very early stages of the career. I don't think anyone will risk fixing maches in major leagues or at international level events. That is why I only bet on large events and main leagues where the risk of such a situation is almost zero.

It could be, but we do not know if that happens in a big league with many teams and people involved in that event. There is not much information about the fixed matches in public because that thing is hiding behind many people. But suppose something bad happens or one or more people get caught because of transferring the money to other people. In that case, that can make many people suspicious and will ask the regulator or authority to investigate it.

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In my opinion, fixed matches can only happen in low leagues and some niche sporting events, such as boxing matches at the amateur level or very early stages of the career. I don't think anyone will risk fixing maches in major leagues or at international level events. That is why I only bet on large events and main leagues where the risk of such a situation is almost zero.

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Quote from: Questat on October 22, 2021, 01:54:15 AM

Quote from: mindrust on October 22, 2021, 12:56:20 AM

Selling ebooks is another example. 99.9% of the time the information you'll get from those books is bullshit. If the information had any value, he wouldn't sell it.

This could be true, but somehow an ebook would teach us how to manage ourself in gambling, actually bankroll management and discipline are both very important, winning a bet is quite different, it cannot be written in the book that is up to a gambler's ability to analyze the game before putting a bet and win.

But why are you paying for that information? You could get it for free from google and most of those information don't really have any value at all. He is not giving you the secret code of life. He is just selling you some common crap which you can think your own.

Quote from: Questat on October 22, 2021, 07:58:41 AM

That's why I don't read ebook as it's time consuming, I'm actually more attracted to reading a random posts like in a forum as I know they are more genuine and they share according to their experience. I have a lot of forums that I follow that's why I learn about sports betting, terms like sports rigging, line movement and trap, these are only few you'll learn from people who are experience enough in sports betting.

I think so too. Reading forum posts is more time efficient. Ebooks usually give you many unwanted details when you just need the main idea. Youtubers do that too. The more they talk bla bla bla and increase the length of the video, the better. It is a marketing trick.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on October 18, 2021, 09:48:30 AM

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

This issue has been raised many times and the debate continues over them that whether matches are fixed or not? The answer to this is yes some matches are fixed to turn on the tables when billion dollar bets is involved in the game.All of them are included like coach,team players and judges also and you could find out some biased decisions made by them.Mostly match fixing is found in cricket as it's easy to manipulate the game as you could get yourself out on turning point and bets could be turned upon and the results could be entirely different from what were predicted.So the answer to this is yes fixation is present in matches.

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Quote from: agustina2 on October 22, 2021, 07:58:51 PM

As long as no investigation happened, a suspected fixed match will always remain a suspected one and we as a viewer can't do something about it. Just continue to support that league because I think, majority of the matches are still played fairly and fixed matches just happened not on a regular basis.

We can't do something about it after all.

Fixed match is unethical for both coaches, players or even officiator of the game and this kind of game ruin the reputation not just the game but reputation of players if they are also coordinating with these kind of activities. But like what have you said as long as there's no investigation about the said fixed match there will be no proper action takes place to correct the mantra of fixed matching. I do also believe that the majority of the matches were played fairly however it is also good to discuss this kind of discussion because it reminds every bettors to be cautious every time they are betting in any types of matches.

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Quote from: agustina2 on October 22, 2021, 07:58:51 PM

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Quote from: dothebeats on October 22, 2021, 01:24:59 PM

Coaches, players, and team owners consent to match fixing that’s for sure, because match fixing wouldn’t happen in the first place if there are no insiders involved in the bets. Most of the time, they do these on leagues that don’t really matter, but still is a hype one yet the profit that they get from winning the games aren’t really something compared to the potential profits that they can get on match fixing. I certainly would bet on such matches in a heartbeat if I do have the insider information, though a part of me thinks that it is wrong and unethical, but whatever.

^ For sure they also get paid for this kind of fraud.
I heard on boxing before that there is a match-fixing and also in NBA there is a match-fixing in order to continue the series longer.
I don't know how they manipulate such games but I think for now it is rare that there is match-fixing, players have their dignity and fighting with their own reputation and I don't think this is very common to happen. I could probably be unethical because there is no proof about this, because it could be a serious case if ever someone caught.

As long as no investigation happened, a suspected fixed match will always remain a suspected one and we as a viewer can't do something about it. Just continue to support that league because I think, majority of the matches are still played fairly and fixed matches just happened not on a regular basis.

We can't do something about it after all.

Fixed match, sadly, is being part of any sport, but like what you have said,

suspected one without any proven investigation will continue to be as unresolved issue.

Just be furious and observant if you still wanted to bet or if you still wanted to support
teams or players from the league there are still good matchup that ain't affected by any fix matches.

Bet as a fan, so you'll have a good hint about the team / players that you are betting with.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on October 22, 2021, 05:00:39 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on October 22, 2021, 01:24:59 PM

Coaches, players, and team owners consent to match fixing that’s for sure, because match fixing wouldn’t happen in the first place if there are no insiders involved in the bets. Most of the time, they do these on leagues that don’t really matter, but still is a hype one yet the profit that they get from winning the games aren’t really something compared to the potential profits that they can get on match fixing. I certainly would bet on such matches in a heartbeat if I do have the insider information, though a part of me thinks that it is wrong and unethical, but whatever.

^ For sure they also get paid for this kind of fraud.
I heard on boxing before that there is a match-fixing and also in NBA there is a match-fixing in order to continue the series longer.
I don't know how they manipulate such games but I think for now it is rare that there is match-fixing, players have their dignity and fighting with their own reputation and I don't think this is very common to happen. I could probably be unethical because there is no proof about this, because it could be a serious case if ever someone caught.

As long as no investigation happened, a suspected fixed match will always remain a suspected one and we as a viewer can't do something about it. Just continue to support that league because I think, majority of the matches are still played fairly and fixed matches just happened not on a regular basis.

We can't do something about it after all.

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Quote from: goinmerry on October 22, 2021, 07:45:50 PM

Quote from: Oilacris on October 22, 2021, 06:27:06 PM

There are lots of factors that could really be possibly seen if you are a sports fan but is there something we can do?

Just go with the flow as usual. In the first place, before placing a bet on a certain match, we don't know if it will be fixed or not.

Still the same, we don't know what will be the result and we are gambling. But in the long run, if some shit match that is obviously a fixed match will happen regularly, it will affect the reputation of that league and eventually, viewers will be drastically decreased along the way.

If you are betting, you are just hoping that everyone is fair with the game. Because you can't really tell if the match is fix or not. Because if you will be paranoid about it, then, maybe sportsbetting is not for you. As we can't avoid these things to happen, you just hope for the best in every game.

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