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legendary
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October 25, 2021, 07:48:55 AM
In sportsbooks we can't avoid this issue since it's all about money, we can't investigate or do research to proof it's fixed match since they were do it behind almost perfect without any trace. Usually this happen when the favorited player/team with good history didn't play well or very close fights. Of course it's really frustrated to see their bad performance and losing our bets, but it is what it is we can't really do anything.
legendary
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Degen in the Space
October 25, 2021, 07:40:50 AM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
Why do they reveal it so late? It shouldn't be easy to place big bets only 15 minutes before the beginning of the match, then it doesn't seem to worth such expensive prices. Moreover I don't think this kind of guy refund his customers if the expected outcome doesn't happen.
They put a lot of pressure on those who might be lured into a situation like this in a fixed match. It's sometimes a scam, especially when it's done on social media platforms like Telegram and Discord. As we can see, there are also plenty of random strangers who send you messages advertising giveaways and such, and it's the same with those people. Newbies will undoubtedly fall for this type of trick, and people will undoubtedly try it, particularly if they are looking for a quick win.
legendary
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October 25, 2021, 06:35:27 AM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.

To be honest, I did not understand what kind of fraud scheme you just wrote. There is a generation of bots that give different predictions (and some of them will definitely be successful for obvious reasons) -> then "information" from such successful bots are sold to naive users. Or tips are generated to a large number of users in private messages (according to the same principle), and after users have appeared who believe in the quality of the tips, they are deceived.

That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)

Why are you sure that this was not the same scammer as the rest?
legendary
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I stand with Ukraine.
October 25, 2021, 06:15:43 AM
I personally don't really believe in that, but if you want to give it a try then I think there's nothing wrong with that either. Because after all, betting will be fine when we only bet with money that is ready to lose, right. So with the initial experiment that you do at least it will give you the results, with you already having the results then you are free to continue betting that way or not, but for me personally I will not believe it easily but it depends on the situation and conditions also.

I think there are several possibilities, and I want to mention some of them here:

1. The match is not fixed, but OP's friend wins by chance, and then thinks it happened thanks to the tips he received;

2. The match is not fixed, and the bet is lost;

3. The match is fixed, and the bet is won.

Among those three, the 3rd option is the worst one imo, because with winning $100 or $200, you are stepping on the slippery road of cooperating with crooks. It is much better for you to lose your bet at once, and break your connection to people who are very likely to turn your life into hell. And I don't mean some religious "Hell" after we die, no, I mean a never-ending sequence of horrible events in this physical world we are living in.
legendary
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October 24, 2021, 06:35:41 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
Why do they reveal it so late? It shouldn't be easy to place big bets only 15 minutes before the beginning of the match, then it doesn't seem to worth such expensive prices. Moreover I don't think this kind of guy refund his customers if the expected outcome doesn't happen.
legendary
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October 24, 2021, 03:56:13 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
So many fishy messages on Telegram groups, sometimes they don't even hesitate to send you a unsourced file that can contain malicious software if you open it.
legendary
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October 24, 2021, 03:25:48 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.

That tip on a fixed game is questionable if it's reliable in the first place, the logic is simple, why would anyone share fixed info if he himself can benefit it by putting a bet on it, not necessarily himself but he can hire people who can bet for him. Fewer people who know the fix the better for them.
legendary
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October 24, 2021, 03:21:54 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
hero member
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October 24, 2021, 03:19:21 PM
After all if someone had that information then they can make a lot of money for themselves without the need to share that information with you, this means that anyone willingly revealing that information to you is most likely a scammer.
You are right. From what I have read, people who are fixing matches usually keeping it highly confidential so that they will find big profits in the end by making all others to bet on other side. If they leak information about fixed matches then they will get high competition for profit sharing which will ending up in lower odds. This is the reason, mostly match fixing are happening in high society and in highly confidential way.

At the same time, scammers are trying to exploit the above situation by spreading fake information about fixed matches like they are selling tips about fixed matches. Basically, if someone is aware of fixed matches then they will go for betting in big amounts so that they could get easy profits.
legendary
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October 24, 2021, 01:27:22 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


If you're in a team with someone who match fixes then essentially you have an enemy within your ranks - someone who is actively sabotaging your best efforts in the worst way possible. That person is likely to be acting like your friend and using the most devious methods to hide the cheating that will solely benefit them. Unless the whole team is in on it then that is likely the worst kind of betrayal you could ever face. I'm not sure how else you could react to finding that out except with disgust and all the anger in the world. Some people make their whole life about the sport that they have chosen to specialize in, it pays their bills via a salary and someone fixing matches would be severely effecting other peoples ability to increase their career path in future.

Yeah right, those who are involved with game fixing who are continuously hiding as a part of the team, where action is not the one that they are portraying, I value your words since there are honest players who don't know what's the real score inside their team; they are trying to win a game but because of the participation of another member of the team into game fixing.

The effort is worthless, and they are ended up losing the game. The career path for those people is getting slimmer than they can't win the game with people who surround them are making more money by means of game fixing.
legendary
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October 24, 2021, 12:29:58 PM
Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.
This is true, and like always when it comes to scams we need to use our common sense, we know there are fixed games at all levels all the time, what we need to wonder is why suddenly a person will appear with information that supposedly gives us privileged access to that information? After all if someone had that information then they can make a lot of money for themselves without the need to share that information with you, this means that anyone willingly revealing that information to you is most likely a scammer.
legendary
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October 24, 2021, 11:07:19 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


If you're in a team with someone who match fixes then essentially you have an enemy within your ranks - someone who is actively sabotaging your best efforts in the worst way possible. That person is likely to be acting like your friend and using the most devious methods to hide the cheating that will solely benefit them. Unless the whole team is in on it then that is likely the worst kind of betrayal you could ever face. I'm not sure how else you could react to finding that out except with disgust and all the anger in the world. Some people make their whole life about the sport that they have chosen to specialize in, it pays their bills via a salary and someone fixing matches would be severely effecting other peoples ability to increase their career path in future.
legendary
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October 24, 2021, 08:11:41 AM

But in most cases, amateur leagues are not listed on sportsbooks even on fiat gambling websites. That's why at first, we can conclude that such services are scams. And even they are involved in big leagues, as they claimed it, I doubt these people do really have an insider. They are all scams.
There are people who really working behind but for sure it's not as easy to work with them the way those claimers are saying

that they are working with those insiders, the amount of money they are staking is big enough to cover the amount that they needed to spend, its existing but the activities are still unproven all are just rumors or suspected but nothing has been done with those big leagues
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About that slip, do you see those bets are placed prior to the match? Sometimes they are just predicting the outcome without the actual placing of the bet.

That' a scam Grin providing prediction, but they are not using their money to place a bet? If it's really a fixed match, those people will
do an all-in bet to really earned big compensation right? Roll Eyes
legendary
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October 24, 2021, 07:00:00 AM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

Exactly, it's something similar to that twitter profile that predicted multiple outcomes once, but only became known for its hits after the events had already occurred.

Many people called him a great seer while others speculate that he predicted several results and then erased the tweets that didn't materialize... all while his profile was still not followed by anyone.
Afterwards, it was enough to do a good job of marketing.

With these fixed bets the same thing happens, with the difference that we are not able to publicly verify all the wrong bets they have made.
legendary
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October 24, 2021, 01:52:39 AM
I know about various tipsters online on telegram who try to sell fixed matches that come from amature leagues, claiming that their games are 100% loss proof and they also show bets of 30 to 300 eur turned to 3k and 30k. And the slip is not just one, and when I check the match results I find the same what he promoted. Should these games be trusted? A big part of these tipsters ask for Nigerian Naira, do they really know about the outcome of the game before it starts?

I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.
legendary
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October 23, 2021, 09:04:09 PM
Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

I know about various tipsters online on telegram who try to sell fixed matches that come from amature leagues, claiming that their games are 100% loss proof and they also show bets of 30 to 300 eur turned to 3k and 30k. And the slip is not just one, and when I check the match results I find the same what he promoted. Should these games be trusted? A big part of these tipsters ask for Nigerian Naira, do they really know about the outcome of the game before it starts?

But in most cases, amateur leagues are not listed on sportsbooks even on fiat gambling websites. That's why at first, we can conclude that such services are scams. And even they are involved in big leagues, as they claimed it, I doubt these people do really have an insider. They are all scams.

About that slip, do you see those bets are placed prior to the match? Sometimes they are just predicting the outcome without the actual placing of the bet.
hero member
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October 23, 2021, 07:24:23 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


It's very much real and it happens without us knowing it even the organizations that manage these sports are unaware of this game fixing but that's the reality there's a lot of money involved in in-game fixing and big mafia-like groups are behind this, it's risky for players and groups to get involved because they have their license revoked for life if caught.

That is why every sports organization closely watches each game for any hint of game-fixing, if game-fixing is exposed that will ruin the credibility of the sports, that is why impose a very high fine, revocation of license to play, and imprisonment.
legendary
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October 23, 2021, 06:59:16 PM
Many people give a tip to other players regarding the game I guess there's not fixed matches of course if this is handled by a known organization, in some instances they give information of a match-winner is on the skill set of the team for their upcoming matches. Still, it depends on the player if they want to follow those tips to have a higher risk on it. People use this kind of strategy to scam people or just double the odds on the other hand of the gambling bet to make more profitable to them.
legendary
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October 23, 2021, 06:49:33 PM
Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

Then tell us how to determine it will be a fixed match?

Can't imagine a sports tipster here for long can easily say to avoid fix match where in the first place, how can you determine if the match will be fixed?

Care to share your wild factors beforehand?
legendary
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October 23, 2021, 06:20:49 PM

If the tips are accurate then you should trust it, it's not important where the tip is coming as long as you are winning. In my case, I don't really believe that someone could just give a tip on a fixed game as it's hard to find a reliable one, but based on the output, I would consider believing and maybe subscribe if it's necessary to get consistent tips.

They ask for $50-$100 a bet.
They show some email of a bookie who fixes these games and assure that the game has been fixed with the players and they will play according to the 'fixed' plans. I saw various screenshots of users winning those bets, but they may also be fake photoshopped images to lure new buyers for upcoming 'fixed' bets. I see it as a strategy to scam because there is not 'comments' section available in those channels, so how can someone discuss about their loss? Even if reported, these guys change the name of their channels and start again.
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