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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on August 03, 2024, 10:33:29 AM

It won't be that easy to be at the top of Serie A next season, because if you judge it now it's still quite early and there are many other influences that can give rise to more changes in Serie A next season so Roma still need to fight harder if they want to have better aspirations next season. Because Inter Milan, Juventus, Bologna and AC Milan are also great teams that will not let any of their rivals win easily next season even though teams like Roma already have Dybala and Soule in their front line.

For Roma to just start leading the serie A is not going to be as easy as they think because even Napoli is not finding it easy, and if you look at it, Roma did better than Napoli last season, because even osihmen did not perform well last since a lot of thing occurred in serie A because we know that clubs like Napoli are always playing well, we can not judge the outcome of the game, because I noticed that the clubs that start well plenty of them don't end well it is something that is always occurring, Sorry to say but no matter how Roma want to fight they can not win the serie A, their clubs that are beyond the capacity of Roma to be able to withstand them they will only try their best but Winn will be impossible. Because this clubs that you mentioned are so ready to put any body down during the commencement of the new season.

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Roma as they are today in my opinion can easily aspire to be among the top in Serie A, and in any case Derossi has had an excellent championship with the players he has, I personally can't wait to see Dybala and Soule together with playing that boy is strong and I don't understand how Juventus let him get away.

It won't be that easy to be at the top of Serie A next season, because if you judge it now it's still quite early and there are many other influences that can give rise to more changes in Serie A next season so Roma still need to fight harder if they want to have better aspirations next season. Because Inter Milan, Juventus, Bologna and AC Milan are also great teams that will not let any of their rivals win easily next season even though teams like Roma already have Dybala and Soule in their front line.

Honestly, Serie A is a very challenging league. It is always hard to predict what will actually happen in the league, so, for me, predicting the top teams is really premature. Even if we should predict, I can't easily say that AS Roma will make it into the top four next season. Based on their last season's performance and the teams that have great players currently, I think there are four teams that may have better players than AS Roma. It's possible that they can make it to the top four next season, but it won't be easy as you might think. If I should pick the favorite teams that will likely make the top four next season,I will choose Inter Milan, Juventus, AC Milan, Atalanta, or probably Bologna. But let's see what happens as the league starts before we begin predicting which teams might end up in the top four.

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Quote from: Sg4j1n3ll0 on August 03, 2024, 03:50:46 AM

Roma as they are today in my opinion can easily aspire to be among the top in Serie A, and in any case Derossi has had an excellent championship with the players he has, I personally can't wait to see Dybala and Soule together with playing that boy is strong and I don't understand how Juventus let him get away.

It won't be that easy to be at the top of Serie A next season, because if you judge it now it's still quite early and there are many other influences that can give rise to more changes in Serie A next season so Roma still need to fight harder if they want to have better aspirations next season. Because Inter Milan, Juventus, Bologna and AC Milan are also great teams that will not let any of their rivals win easily next season even though teams like Roma already have Dybala and Soule in their front line.

Making it to the top of the table in the Serie A is not an easy one. More teams have started coming up and have shown themselves worthy of being competent enough for the league title also. New name like Bologna have added to the list of the likes of Roma, Juventus, Inter Milan, AC Milan, Napoli etc. With many more teams showing a big potential of their capabilities, you can’t tell so soon who will make it to that top just yet. The league has not yet started and it will consist of playing nineteen games out of thirty eight games before you can now coming to some partial conclusions on teams that can finish at the top of the table or not. Every team stands a chance now that the league has not yet begun, but with time, their will be more to consider before saying a team can make it there or not.

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Quote from: rendravolt on August 03, 2024, 07:43:24 AM

Inter almost lost against Serie B team Pisa SC in the pre-season match and luckily Simone Inzaghi's squad managed to hold a 1-1 draw with a last-minute goal scored by Yann Aurel Bisseck. If we look at the statistics Inter is far superior in all aspects and I think here they were just unlucky to win.

Maybe Pisa's defense is also no less strong so they can dampen every attack launched by Inter. Apart from that, from all pre-season matches Inter has collected three wins and this is the first time they have drawn and I think that's not bad at all. Next Inter will still play the next pre-season match against the Saudi league team Al-Ittihad and I am very sure they will win easily.

Even if Inter lose, for me it's not important, because they're just warming up the players to get them ready for the start of the new season. But about playing against Al-Ittihad in the next friendly match, of course it still won't be easy for Inter to win. After all, playing against Pisa who play in Serie B is also the fact that Inter are only able to make the match end in a draw.

Thus, in a friendly match for me nothing can be considered easy to win, because if in a friendly match will make the top team to win easily, then surely every bettor will not miss a good moment to get easy money. So yes, I hope no one thinks this friendly match will be an easy win for the top team, because the reality is that they also do not play all their main players so to get a win will still be difficult.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on August 03, 2024, 10:33:29 AM

Quote from: Sg4j1n3ll0 on August 03, 2024, 03:50:46 AM

Roma as they are today in my opinion can easily aspire to be among the top in Serie A, and in any case Derossi has had an excellent championship with the players he has, I personally can't wait to see Dybala and Soule together with playing that boy is strong and I don't understand how Juventus let him get away.

It won't be that easy to be at the top of Serie A next season, because if you judge it now it's still quite early and there are many other influences that can give rise to more changes in Serie A next season so Roma still need to fight harder if they want to have better aspirations next season. Because Inter Milan, Juventus, Bologna and AC Milan are also great teams that will not let any of their rivals win easily next season even though teams like Roma already have Dybala and Soule in their front line.

Having Dybala and Soule in the frontline of Roma don't guarantee that Roma has all it takes to win the Serie A they still need more hard work and concentration because last season they performed so well but at some point they started flopping. I think where they need a lot of work to do is within their defense line because they have very good attacks. The competition will be so tensed in the Serie A this season because Juventus will be looking forward to reclaim the title after four years of being without the Serie A title and Inter Milan on the other hand is still very much up and doing so it will be a very competitive season in the Serie A.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on August 03, 2024, 10:33:29 AM

Quote from: Sg4j1n3ll0 on August 03, 2024, 03:50:46 AM

Roma as they are today in my opinion can easily aspire to be among the top in Serie A, and in any case Derossi has had an excellent championship with the players he has, I personally can't wait to see Dybala and Soule together with playing that boy is strong and I don't understand how Juventus let him get away.

It won't be that easy to be at the top of Serie A next season, because if you judge it now it's still quite early and there are many other influences that can give rise to more changes in Serie A next season so Roma still need to fight harder if they want to have better aspirations next season. Because Inter Milan, Juventus, Bologna and AC Milan are also great teams that will not let any of their rivals win easily next season even though teams like Roma already have Dybala and Soule in their front line.

Last season, De Rossi only continued the work left by Mourinho, so De Rossi's job was not too hard because he had a squad that had been formed and coached by Mourinho previously, but for next season, De Rossi will definitely have a harder job because he must form a team framework that he can rely on next season, Indeed Roma has currently brought in several new players to support Roma's performance next season, but that does not mean that Roma can be a strong candidate to win Serie A next season, because apart from Roma, other teams such as Intermilan, Juventus and Milan also have ambitions to win the Scudetto next season and this will clearly make the competition even tighter.
winning Serie A is not an easy thing to do even though the team has strengthened its squad with many star players, because after all there are many factors that influence a team to be win the league as : coach strategy, consistency, performance and mentality.

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Roma as they are today in my opinion can easily aspire to be among the top in Serie A, and in any case Derossi has had an excellent championship with the players he has, I personally can't wait to see Dybala and Soule together with playing that boy is strong and I don't understand how Juventus let him get away.

It won't be that easy to be at the top of Serie A next season, because if you judge it now it's still quite early and there are many other influences that can give rise to more changes in Serie A next season so Roma still need to fight harder if they want to have better aspirations next season. Because Inter Milan, Juventus, Bologna and AC Milan are also great teams that will not let any of their rivals win easily next season even though teams like Roma already have Dybala and Soule in their front line.

I think if you look at the current Roma squad they are indeed worthy to be one of the top teams in Serie A this season. But I think you are right that AS Roma still can't be the champion, or at least it is almost impossible to talk about the title. I am not underestimating AS Roma but we can see that AS Roma still can't compete with Inter Milan, Juventus or AC Milan. I can't claim their performance because the season hasn't started but I don't put AS Roma in my bet to be the champion.

I can say that Roma are the best team last season, but if is come to count the best team in serie A last season they have to include them because their also part of the best clubs, but one thing about the Roma is that they didn’t know how to maintain there performances well; that’s they didn’t make it last season, I can see that you mentioned some clubs that AS Roma can’t compete with them I can accept the Inter Milan and AC Milan there the only clubs that the AS Roma can’t compete with but not Juventus.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 03, 2024, 05:43:04 AM

There is a piece of bad news for AC Milan about one of their players, Alessandro Florenzi. In the pre-season games, Alessandro Florenzi got injured hardly, and now it seems this player needs surgery and this means Alessandro Florenzi will be out for 7-8 months which can be a big damage to this player and AC Milan because they should now think about other players to fill the place of Alessandro Florenzi in the team.
It's not the first time for Alessandro Florenzi to get injured hardly, back in 2022 he had surgery in Finland.

The Italian suffered a ligament and meniscus damage which is a devastating injury. He has gone through a successful surgery and will be undergoing rehabilitation when he recovers. Considering his age, it might take him a long time to recover from this injury. AC Milan will have to use the available time to seek her right back. Sadly, such a serious injury happened during a preseason game.

Quote from: mamesso on August 03, 2024, 08:03:24 AM

They are working towards achieving that goal, bringing in Dovbyk is the first step Roma have taken to provide competition for the top four. De Rossi has managed to convince Roma management to spend a large amount of money to buy the player who became the top scorer in La Liga last season, the addition of new ammunition will make Roma a team to watch out for. Roma could be the new challenger in the hunt for the Scudetto, the players they currently have are ready to compete with other teams in the hunt for the title, especially their increasingly dangerous front line.

Artem Dovbyk became a highly sought striker father he became the La Liga highest goal scorer where he banged 24 goals in 36 games. Roma should be pleased that they were able to get this prolific striker. He was pursued by Atletico Madrid and Borussia Dortmund but the Ukrainian wanted to move to Roma. Daniele De Rossi is putting up a strong side that will do more than they did last season.

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Roma as they are today in my opinion can easily aspire to be among the top in Serie A, and in any case Derossi has had an excellent championship with the players he has, I personally can't wait to see Dybala and Soule together with playing that boy is strong and I don't understand how Juventus let him get away.

It won't be that easy to be at the top of Serie A next season, because if you judge it now it's still quite early and there are many other influences that can give rise to more changes in Serie A next season so Roma still need to fight harder if they want to have better aspirations next season. Because Inter Milan, Juventus, Bologna and AC Milan are also great teams that will not let any of their rivals win easily next season even though teams like Roma already have Dybala and Soule in their front line.

I think if you look at the current Roma squad they are indeed worthy to be one of the top teams in Serie A this season. But I think you are right that AS Roma still can't be the champion, or at least it is almost impossible to talk about the title. I am not underestimating AS Roma but we can see that AS Roma still can't compete with Inter Milan, Juventus or AC Milan. I can't claim their performance because the season hasn't started but I don't put AS Roma in my bet to be the champion.

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Quote from: Sg4j1n3ll0 on August 03, 2024, 03:50:46 AM

Roma as they are today in my opinion can easily aspire to be among the top in Serie A, and in any case Derossi has had an excellent championship with the players he has, I personally can't wait to see Dybala and Soule together with playing that boy is strong and I don't understand how Juventus let him get away.

It won't be that easy to be at the top of Serie A next season, because if you judge it now it's still quite early and there are many other influences that can give rise to more changes in Serie A next season so Roma still need to fight harder if they want to have better aspirations next season. Because Inter Milan, Juventus, Bologna and AC Milan are also great teams that will not let any of their rivals win easily next season even though teams like Roma already have Dybala and Soule in their front line.

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Second game of the preseason for Motta this evening.
He has not called for the game Chiesa and Djalo.
These are clear calls of what he wants to do with these 2 players during this season.

The player are now on the market and they will try to sell them before the end of the month.

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Quote from: pusaka on August 03, 2024, 02:41:06 AM

There will be other considerations when players decide to join a team, sometimes we wonder what is the basis for their decision, even though on the other hand we think there is a team that might be better for the player. I think there must be something that makes the player tempted by his contract, not only in terms of salary, because other things can also be an attraction.
AS Roma has seemed to improve in recent times, the change of coach from Jose Mourinho to De Rossi has also brought a breath of fresh air. Not to say that Jose Mourinho is bad, but even though De Rossi is considered not more experienced than Jose Mourinho, the fact is that he can also give a good performance for AS Roma and hopefully they can compete more in the following season.

Aside the clubs interest the player also have their interest to why they want to join a particular club look at the case of mbappe his young and have other plans for him self even if his going to perform his duty as a player in Real Madrid he will want to push it very hard so that will recognize him globally because of what he wants to accomplish it will be better for him in Real Madrid. Salary is involve sometimes because they will always want a better pay but I feel like if you focus on building your self first, then your performance will open more opportunities. Roma wants to also claim something this season that will depend on them, Jose Mourinho www actually an amazing coach, but we all know how the system works if the management doesn't not get the result they want. Jose mourinho is far experienced than De Rossi so that is just the management for you they will go for exactly what they want.

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Lately Inter appearance in a friendly match is not too bad and has never been defeated. I think this is also thanks to the contribution of coach Inzaghi who already knows the right strategy to give victory in every match. In this way Inzaghi can give encouragement and enormous self confidence for some of the main players who will appear when the season has begun.
But believe me bet I won because of luck because I bet in the first round when Pisa scored 1 score and Inter only got 0 scores. Initially I thought Inter would lose but I believed to end in a draw when I looked back at the previous appearance.

Yeah Inter won the last 2 matches and drew today's match I don't see anything special because Inter Milan is playing against a team that is under them in terms of quality and that is my reason to avoid this bet, I agree that you got lucky on this bet because this is a friendly match they don't have any target. Just want to remind you that in friendly matches bookies can take a role I mean they can determine the final score when more bets are placed on one team then they can change which side will win but if only a few bets they will ignore it, yeah this is another way how a club makes money Tongue

and this applies to almost all leagues or friendly match so don't be surprised if the final result of the match is beyond our expectations..

Many are concerned about Inter Milan. Friendly matches are different. Teams test new players and strategy in these games. Winning isnt everything, especially for an established team like Inter.

AC Milan's strategy is different. They're playing top-tier opponents in these friendlies to prepare for the real thing. This demonstrates drive to win. Its a winning mindset that can change everything.

Lautaro Martinez is a quality player for Inter. Yet soccer isnt a solo act. You need a good team, bench, and strategy. I've seen AC Milan meet all those criteria.

Bet odds are interesting, but they dont necessarily reveal the whole story. My opinion is that AC Milan's strategy gives them an edge this season. Not who looks good in preseason, but who delivers when it counts.

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Roma as they are today in my opinion can easily aspire to be among the top in Serie A, and in any case Derossi has had an excellent championship with the players he has, I personally can't wait to see Dybala and Soule together with playing that boy is strong and I don't understand how Juventus let him get away.

They are working towards achieving that goal, bringing in Dovbyk is the first step Roma have taken to provide competition for the top four. De Rossi has managed to convince Roma management to spend a large amount of money to buy the player who became the top scorer in La Liga last season, the addition of new ammunition will make Roma a team to watch out for. Roma could be the new challenger in the hunt for the Scudetto, the players they currently have are ready to compete with other teams in the hunt for the title, especially their increasingly dangerous front line.

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I think that he would have been the main striker for Atletico as well, so the reason for his decision was definitely not based on this. Fans criticize his agent, that he was the main reason that Dovbyk chose Roma, but I think that the agent can express his opinion, and the decision will be made by the player in any case. Atletico would have given Dovbyk the opportunity to play in the Champions League, this is of course the most important nuance that needed to be taken into account, with Atletico he would have been guaranteed to play in the Champions League, and with Roma he will have to try to fulfill this task all season. But this is his decision, I think that if he can become the best scorer in Serie A, more famous clubs will want to lure him to themselves.

Roma is a team that is currently developing quite well while being coached by De Rossi so I think Dovbyk has his own target so he chose to join the Roma team, maybe Dovbyk sees that his future career prospects will be much more developed if he joins Roma and I think this is not a bad decision. In terms of individual quality, Artem Dovbyk is quite good and if he gets a lot of support from other Roma players then I think it is not impossible that he can become the top scorer in Serie A, remember that Roma cannot be underestimated next season, they are a team that is considered to compete to win the title.

Yes, of course it is the right choice for Artem Dovbyk to develop his career with a more popular club even though with Girona he can appear in the UCL this season but Girona is just like a lucky club to be able to get great achievements thanks to Dovbyk's contribution.
While with Roma, Dovbyk can get a higher title if he can make the same contribution when with Girona.

Plus, currently Roma is in a safe zone when De Rossi can manage the club better than before when Mourinho was still with the club.
Dovbyk's career can be a little guaranteed as long as he is at the right club and can be trained by a coach who has the ability to manage the club wisely like De Rossi.

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Inter almost lost against Serie B team Pisa SC in the pre-season match and luckily Simone Inzaghi's squad managed to hold a 1-1 draw with a last-minute goal scored by Yann Aurel Bisseck. If we look at the statistics Inter is far superior in all aspects and I think here they were just unlucky to win.

Maybe Pisa's defense is also no less strong so they can dampen every attack launched by Inter. Apart from that, from all pre-season matches Inter has collected three wins and this is the first time they have drawn and I think that's not bad at all. Next Inter will still play the next pre-season match against the Saudi league team Al-Ittihad and I am very sure they will win easily.

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If Rabiot leaves Juventus, it will be a big loss for Juventus. Also, you are right that Pogba cannot be relied upon right now. Pogba is a very talented player. However, due to injuries in the last season, he played only 2 matches in the jersey of Juventus. So we don't know yet if Pogba can perform well this season. So Pogba cannot be relied upon. But if Pogba and Luiz play well, Juventus' midfield will be strong.

Last season we saw Juventus' main weakness was the erratic performance of their attacking players. The team scored only 54 goals in 38 matches. So if Juventus want to fight for the title next season then Juventus will definitely need to strengthen their attack. More talented and experienced players need to be added to the attack.

Rabiot believe me is currently without a contract and his is hopefull he'll get signed up by Manchester United. They're yet to have a conclusion on the personal terms agreed. I feel like they'll want to see Scott MC Tominay leaving first before they can bring in Rabiot fully. During the world cup Competition France won, he was solid alongside Paul Pogba and Ngolo Kante in midfied. He reminds me of Nemanja Matic during his early days with Chelsea, very solid and good with his ariel duels.

Your comments of Paul Pogba got me laughing, Paul Pogba was not Injured last season but was suspended and then banned from football for four years. This should be the second year and when he'll be back, we'll be definitely seeing another Paul Pogba. Hopefully, he finds himself a better side.

So far so good they're making good moves for attacking players. Thiago Motta knows that already.

Rabiot is a very important player for Juventus. And losing him is obviously going to be a big loss for Juventus especially because Juventus is not going through a very good time right now. And losing a player like him is not going to be ideal for Juventus. He is only 29 years old and he is a player who has a great physicality along with great height as well. He gives Juventus a lot of value in the midfield area.

I don’t think he has any intention to stay at Juventus. Because he denied a contract extension with Juventus very recently. That’s why I think he is definitely leaving. He is not extending his contract because he wants to leave. And that’s why it is going to be a very big loss for Thiago Motta because they cannot even get any kind of money for him as well. But Thiago Motta already understand that it is going to happen and their program cannot stop it. I agree that they are making good moves so far but getting some money for him would have been great for Juventus.

https://www.footballtransfers.com/us/transfer-news/uk-premier-league/2024/08/arsenal-transfer-news-gunners-pole-position-to-sign-free-agent-rabiot-as-agent-speaks-out-us

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Quote from: mamesso on August 03, 2024, 03:16:30 AM

Although initially De Rossi ability to handle Roma was doubted, he managed to make Roma management satisfied with his performance, Roma performance increased rapidly when De Rossi took over Mourinho duties, they also managed to finish in a better position. The results obtained last season made Roma Management start making big moves in the transfer market, they immediately facilitated De Rossi in the transfer market to recruit new players.
After Lukaku loan ended, Roma immediately brought in last season's top La Liga scorer. Dovbyk is a goal-hungry player, he will make Roma front line even sharper. Now Roma is starting to look at something bigger with De Rossi. The transfer market will be used to improve the quality of the team so that it can compete with Inter Milan, Milan and Juventus in the top four.

At first De Rossi was only to replace Jose Mourinho temporarily, at least until the end of the season. However, during the time that De Rossi had, he did not miss the opportunity to give his best, the result is that he now gets a contract extension and is trusted to continue to handle AS Roma. He did not care about his position or status at the beginning, he only gave his best for the team he handled and the results were quite satisfying. I think AS Roma's decision to retain De Rossi is also the right decision, because he gives new hope and if AS Roma looks for a new coach, it will not guarantee that the new coach will be better than De Rossi. Now De Rossi has some additional players, he just needs to make sure that he can get to know the character of the new players, so that he can implement the desired strategy very well. Fresh air is in AS Roma, but we'll see whether it will really bring them success or not.

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There is a piece of bad news for AC Milan about one of their players, Alessandro Florenzi. In the pre-season games, Alessandro Florenzi got injured hardly, and now it seems this player needs surgery and this means Alessandro Florenzi will be out for 7-8 months which can be a big damage to this player and AC Milan because they should now think about other players to fill the place of Alessandro Florenzi in the team.
It's not the first time for Alessandro Florenzi to get injured hardly, back in 2022 he had surgery in Finland.

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I think that he would have been the main striker for Atletico as well, so the reason for his decision was definitely not based on this. Fans criticize his agent, that he was the main reason that Dovbyk chose Roma, but I think that the agent can express his opinion, and the decision will be made by the player in any case. Atletico would have given Dovbyk the opportunity to play in the Champions League, this is of course the most important nuance that needed to be taken into account, with Atletico he would have been guaranteed to play in the Champions League, and with Roma he will have to try to fulfill this task all season. But this is his decision, I think that if he can become the best scorer in Serie A, more famous clubs will want to lure him to themselves.

Roma is a team that is currently developing quite well while being coached by De Rossi so I think Dovbyk has his own target so he chose to join the Roma team, maybe Dovbyk sees that his future career prospects will be much more developed if he joins Roma and I think this is not a bad decision. In terms of individual quality, Artem Dovbyk is quite good and if he gets a lot of support from other Roma players then I think it is not impossible that he can become the top scorer in Serie A, remember that Roma cannot be underestimated next season, they are a team that is considered to compete to win the title.

If Dovbyk chooses Atletico Madrid then he actually realizes that there will be tough competition there to become the most reliable player in the team. Because we know that there is always quite tight competition in the Atletico Madrid squad. Even Felix lost in the competition and in fact he only had the fate of being loaned to another team for several seasons. But in Roma he will immediately become the most reliable player on the front line. So he will be able to enjoy the game more without thinking about competition within the team. It's just that he won't play in the UCL. In fact, if he stays at Girona he will be able to play in the UCL. But somehow I feel that the decision taken by Dovbyk was the most correct by choosing Roma. Because I also see that Roma will develop quite well this season.

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