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Quote from: Pumared on June 27, 2024, 07:54:33 PM

My God, this fight has been postponed again. They will definitely postpone it until next year. There is no point in postponing it again.

It will definitely be a huge setback, and they will need to deliver a mega event so that they don't get hated later.

It is better to cancel it then, if they postpone it until next year Cheesy

Mike will be almost 60 then Cheesy

There is no point such fight at all.

Wont it be better to close this topic? Seriously, who would be interested in watching this fight when Mike is getting older, his health inst improving. We have discussed probably everything already. I see no point from evaluating Tyson condition and skills by those 5-20sec videos from instagram.

As much as we want to see this fight, postponing it till next year will kill the hype itself. So it's better to just cancel it all along. And if Tyson gets healthy, then hopefully push for the fight. But it's not, then Jake should be looking at other retired legendary boxers.

If I'm not mistaken, Roy Jones Jr said that he could be a good replacement. But let's see, it's all about the money and it seems that Netflix has put up front money already and could be looking to at least break even.

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Quote from: Pumared on June 27, 2024, 07:54:33 PM

My God, this fight has been postponed again. They will definitely postpone it until next year. There is no point in postponing it again.

It will definitely be a huge setback, and they will need to deliver a mega event so that they don't get hated later.

It is better to cancel it then, if they postpone it until next year Cheesy

Mike will be almost 60 then Cheesy

There is no point such fight at all.

Wont it be better to close this topic? Seriously, who would be interested in watching this fight when Mike is getting older, his health inst improving. We have discussed probably everything already. I see no point from evaluating Tyson condition and skills by those 5-20sec videos from instagram.

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My God, this fight has been postponed again. They will definitely postpone it until next year. There is no point in postponing it again.

It will definitely be a huge setback, and they will need to deliver a mega event so that they don't get hated later.

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Quote from: Jating on June 27, 2024, 05:31:34 AM

And that is why the fight is going to be moved on November 20, so them enough time for Mike Tyson to heal and then train for Jake Paul and I think it will still be a go by Netflix as they might have used a lot of money in promotion and paid Tyson upfront or paying up front Jake Paul's company because they are partnered with them.

As for Mike Perry as replacement, just all for the money and we can't blame him for accepting it in a short notice. For Jake Paul being criticized for picking Mike Perry, again it's all business and everyone want's a piece of Jake Paul as he is loud mouth and this fighters might want to shut him up for good.

So this one has been moved?
I wasnt expecting that ulcer health issue did really make out such delay for this exhibition fight on which there's nothing we can do. Sorry for those Tyson fans out there or even with Jake
that wanting to see this fight to be realized. When health issues kicks in then delays would really be that somewhat expected. As for some replacement on which same as you said
that boxing or any sports now turns out to be a business on which fight arrangements would really be that totally be possible and making money out of it
and this isnt really something new anymore. Now this one has been moved. Then it would be wise on locking this thread temporarily?

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on June 27, 2024, 03:17:13 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 25, 2024, 08:15:16 PM

I just check my Netflix account and it is still a go,

So perhaps they are going to salvage the fight on November 15 and this is just for Jake Paul to practice want he has been doing in training and so we can see how sharp he could be in November against Mike Tyson. So all is not lost for Netflix, although there could be disappointment that they will have to wait for the next couple of months to see their ROI.

A stomach ulcer is not a simple disease, recovery will require strict diet and rest, perhaps half a year will be enough for Mike to return to duty, but preparation and such attention to the fight will be far from a state of rest, which may aggravate everything again. I think that this fight will have to happen because Mike wants to get his money, I’m sure that anyone in his place would want the same, so I have almost no doubt that this fight will take place, but I’m worried about what condition Tyson will be in...

And that is why the fight is going to be moved on November 20, so them enough time for Mike Tyson to heal and then train for Jake Paul and I think it will still be a go by Netflix as they might have used a lot of money in promotion and paid Tyson upfront or paying up front Jake Paul's company because they are partnered with them.

As for Mike Perry as replacement, just all for the money and we can't blame him for accepting it in a short notice. For Jake Paul being criticized for picking Mike Perry, again it's all business and everyone want's a piece of Jake Paul as he is loud mouth and this fighters might want to shut him up for good.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 27, 2024, 12:26:04 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on June 26, 2024, 03:34:41 AM

Would you call Mike Perry aged veteran also? He is 32 only. They have 5 years age difference only. Plus he is still an active fighter. Should we call him a veteran? I think hasnt finished his fighting career, he was released from UFC after series of losses, and later signed with bare knuckle fighting. Majority of his losses is by decision, when 11 out of 14 of his wins are by KO. Add 3 KOes from bare knuckle. Not much of an aged veteran imho.

He might not be 58 like Mike Tyson, but he has been around a long time. Around a decade of experience and having been released from the UFC would indicate that he is in decline. Luckily for him, he is able to find success in BKFC where he is competing against other fighters who are no longer good enough to be in the UFC. That is the niche he belongs in, but I can’t blame him for taking the Jake Paul payday. Considering Jake’s level, he still has a puncher’s chance, but there should be no doubt that he was chosen because he is considered an easily beatable opponent.

I would not call it as a decline, but rather call it the skill level of Perry did not match skill level of his opponents. It might be that UFC level was way to high for him. People got released from UFC not only because of low skill, they still perform great in other promotions. But when I quoted you, I focused more on your "aged veteran" words. Perry is not even close to aged veteran. Imho Perry is even a better opponent for Jake, since there is no longer youth vs experience kind of competition.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 26, 2024, 03:34:41 AM

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 25, 2024, 03:41:17 AM

Personally, I dont really care who Jake fights against, as all of his opponents are people who can and were knocking people out cold, and he has balls to step in the ring against them. Many would be scared to have a light spar in full gear against them, but he puts on gloves, trains and crosses ring ropes.

People would be considerably less scared if they had to spar somebody who is much smaller and has virtually no experience in professional boxing. It doesn’t take any balls to participate in an opportunistic cash grab where everything is stacked in your favor.

People talk like that only until first punch to the face. Many believe in themselves and would stand up against anybody if they get paid well. But when they get hurt, they dont want those millions anymore.

Haha this is joke, if the person saying all that is just an ordinary fan who has never done any fighting then I sure they are just making an emotional statement about what is on their mind.
A fighter will not care about all that, even if they have to suffer various injuries due to the fight they are fighting, but they have guarantee and the money will be included in their income without any deductions for healing costs.
People out there just talk without feeling what every fighter goes through, indeed they fight to get money, especially fight like this that would be fought by former boxer like Tyson.

Moreover, so far Paul has always fought fights that don't seem worthy of being considered truly great fights, all of them are those who are not all professional boxers.
Some are former MMA or UFC fighters and have boxing skills that can be said to be limited, if he finds someone suitable, maybe Paul will no longer think about making money from boxing. Cheesy

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 25, 2024, 08:15:16 PM

I just check my Netflix account and it is still a go,

So perhaps they are going to salvage the fight on November 15 and this is just for Jake Paul to practice want he has been doing in training and so we can see how sharp he could be in November against Mike Tyson. So all is not lost for Netflix, although there could be disappointment that they will have to wait for the next couple of months to see their ROI.

A stomach ulcer is not a simple disease, recovery will require strict diet and rest, perhaps half a year will be enough for Mike to return to duty, but preparation and such attention to the fight will be far from a state of rest, which may aggravate everything again. I think that this fight will have to happen because Mike wants to get his money, I’m sure that anyone in his place would want the same, so I have almost no doubt that this fight will take place, but I’m worried about what condition Tyson will be in...

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 26, 2024, 03:34:41 AM

Would you call Mike Perry aged veteran also? He is 32 only. They have 5 years age difference only. Plus he is still an active fighter. Should we call him a veteran? I think hasnt finished his fighting career, he was released from UFC after series of losses, and later signed with bare knuckle fighting. Majority of his losses is by decision, when 11 out of 14 of his wins are by KO. Add 3 KOes from bare knuckle. Not much of an aged veteran imho.

He might not be 58 like Mike Tyson, but he has been around a long time. Around a decade of experience and having been released from the UFC would indicate that he is in decline. Luckily for him, he is able to find success in BKFC where he is competing against other fighters who are no longer good enough to be in the UFC. That is the niche he belongs in, but I can’t blame him for taking the Jake Paul payday. Considering Jake’s level, he still has a puncher’s chance, but there should be no doubt that he was chosen because he is considered an easily beatable opponent.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 25, 2024, 03:41:17 AM

I know all that, that was just a sarcasm. In previous topics about Jake Paul vs anyone, everyone was talking that Jake is a nobody, a youtuber who put boxing gloves on, that all his fights are rigged and he is fighting aged veterans only. Suddenly the mood of the topic has changed into huge favourite Jake is fighting against a newbie.

Nothing has really changed. Jake Paul is still fighting aged veterans in fights with easily predictable outcomes. Of course he is going to be a huge favorite when he is fighting a middleweight from a completely different sport. We’ve already seen Jake fight against former MMA fighters half a dozen times already. It’s not rocket science predicting how the outcome is supposed to go.

Would you call Mike Perry aged veteran also? He is 32 only. They have 5 years age difference only. Plus he is still an active fighter. Should we call him a veteran? I think hasnt finished his fighting career, he was released from UFC after series of losses, and later signed with bare knuckle fighting. Majority of his losses is by decision, when 11 out of 14 of his wins are by KO. Add 3 KOes from bare knuckle. Not much of an aged veteran imho.

I wouldn't say Mike Perry is nobody, but I also think that it's nobody in the means of marketing. Jake Paul wanted to fight and I am sure that he put some training for it as well and now that Mike Tyson can't, he just didn't want it to go to waste, but that's about it, I do not think that it would be watched that much at all.

Mike Tyson match doesn't seem to be cancelled neither by the way, I think it is just postponed, and I bet that they are going to have it if Mike Tyson could heal back, he is going to lose a lot of training time, so he needs to rest, get better, and then train for it as well. This is why we should consider how we could end up with something that is going to end up getting tougher by the day if you ask me.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 25, 2024, 03:37:00 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on June 25, 2024, 03:41:17 AM

I know all that, that was just a sarcasm. In previous topics about Jake Paul vs anyone, everyone was talking that Jake is a nobody, a youtuber who put boxing gloves on, that all his fights are rigged and he is fighting aged veterans only. Suddenly the mood of the topic has changed into huge favourite Jake is fighting against a newbie.

Nothing has really changed. Jake Paul is still fighting aged veterans in fights with easily predictable outcomes. Of course he is going to be a huge favorite when he is fighting a middleweight from a completely different sport. We’ve already seen Jake fight against former MMA fighters half a dozen times already. It’s not rocket science predicting how the outcome is supposed to go.

Would you call Mike Perry aged veteran also? He is 32 only. They have 5 years age difference only. Plus he is still an active fighter. Should we call him a veteran? I think hasnt finished his fighting career, he was released from UFC after series of losses, and later signed with bare knuckle fighting. Majority of his losses is by decision, when 11 out of 14 of his wins are by KO. Add 3 KOes from bare knuckle. Not much of an aged veteran imho.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 25, 2024, 03:41:17 AM

Personally, I dont really care who Jake fights against, as all of his opponents are people who can and were knocking people out cold, and he has balls to step in the ring against them. Many would be scared to have a light spar in full gear against them, but he puts on gloves, trains and crosses ring ropes.

People would be considerably less scared if they had to spar somebody who is much smaller and has virtually no experience in professional boxing. It doesn’t take any balls to participate in an opportunistic cash grab where everything is stacked in your favor.

People talk like that only until first punch to the face. Many believe in themselves and would stand up against anybody if they get paid well. But when they get hurt, they dont want those millions anymore.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 25, 2024, 03:37:00 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on June 25, 2024, 03:41:17 AM

I know all that, that was just a sarcasm. In previous topics about Jake Paul vs anyone, everyone was talking that Jake is a nobody, a youtuber who put boxing gloves on, that all his fights are rigged and he is fighting aged veterans only. Suddenly the mood of the topic has changed into huge favourite Jake is fighting against a newbie.

Nothing has really changed. Jake Paul is still fighting aged veterans in fights with easily predictable outcomes. Of course he is going to be a huge favorite when he is fighting a middleweight from a completely different sport. We’ve already seen Jake fight against former MMA fighters half a dozen times already. It’s not rocket science predicting how the outcome is supposed to go.

Quote from: TopTort777 on June 25, 2024, 03:41:17 AM

Personally, I dont really care who Jake fights against, as all of his opponents are people who can and were knocking people out cold, and he has balls to step in the ring against them. Many would be scared to have a light spar in full gear against them, but he puts on gloves, trains and crosses ring ropes.

People would be considerably less scared if they had to spar somebody who is much smaller and has virtually no experience in professional boxing. It doesn’t take any balls to participate in an opportunistic cash grab where everything is stacked in your favor.

I’m just bummed that such an exciting event for Netflix with them entering the realm of live sports has turned into a fight that nobody really cares about. We all just wanted to see Mike Tyson. Without Mike I’m not even sure if I’ll be tuning into the fight now. Netflix has to be upset about Mike’s health issues.

I just check my Netflix account and it is still a go,

So perhaps they are going to salvage the fight on November 15 and this is just for Jake Paul to practice want he has been doing in training and so we can see how sharp he could be in November against Mike Tyson. So all is not lost for Netflix, although there could be disappointment that they will have to wait for the next couple of months to see their ROI.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on June 22, 2024, 09:16:19 AM

Mike Perry should be a tough opponent for Jake. Perry hasn't lost in bare knuckle yet, though big boxing gloves will take away a lot of his strength.

Perry has an 0-1 record in boxing. I don’t believe his success in BKFC will translate all that well in gloved boxing. His wins in BKFC were against old MMA guys. He doesn’t really have an adequate level of experience to succeed against even a low level boxer like Jake Paul. The size difference will also be a factor against him. If Perry has a good chin, then Paul might struggle his way to a decision win but I don’t see an outcome where Perry is a winner.

Yeah, and most likely that's why Jake Paul pick him up as a late replacement, I mean in paper he looks good, could be deceiving as he is a Bare Knuckle "Champion". So that is the key there, that word that could create hype in this fight and as if we see him taking a big risk against Perry.

But if you look closely at Mike Perry's record 0-1 in boxing and then he had like barely weeks to train and condition himself, while Jake has been in the gym for many weeks already and could be in his peak, not overtraining but about his his absolute prime come July 20.

However, Mike Perry's experience should not be underestimated because this can also end very much similar to Jake Paul's fight against Tommy Fury. Tommy Fury is not a very good boxer or a big name in boxing, however, he is a professional like Mike Perry.

Mike Perry's record in boxing is 0-1 because he is not a boxer. But add his record in mixed martial arts and bareknuckle boxing and it would be a different analysis.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 25, 2024, 03:37:00 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on June 25, 2024, 03:41:17 AM

I know all that, that was just a sarcasm. In previous topics about Jake Paul vs anyone, everyone was talking that Jake is a nobody, a youtuber who put boxing gloves on, that all his fights are rigged and he is fighting aged veterans only. Suddenly the mood of the topic has changed into huge favourite Jake is fighting against a newbie.

Nothing has really changed. Jake Paul is still fighting aged veterans in fights with easily predictable outcomes. Of course he is going to be a huge favorite when he is fighting a middleweight from a completely different sport. We’ve already seen Jake fight against former MMA fighters half a dozen times already. It’s not rocket science predicting how the outcome is supposed to go.

Quote from: TopTort777 on June 25, 2024, 03:41:17 AM

Personally, I dont really care who Jake fights against, as all of his opponents are people who can and were knocking people out cold, and he has balls to step in the ring against them. Many would be scared to have a light spar in full gear against them, but he puts on gloves, trains and crosses ring ropes.

People would be considerably less scared if they had to spar somebody who is much smaller and has virtually no experience in professional boxing. It doesn’t take any balls to participate in an opportunistic cash grab where everything is stacked in your favor.

I’m just bummed that such an exciting event for Netflix with them entering the realm of live sports has turned into a fight that nobody really cares about. We all just wanted to see Mike Tyson. Without Mike I’m not even sure if I’ll be tuning into the fight now. Netflix has to be upset about Mike’s health issues.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 25, 2024, 03:41:17 AM

I know all that, that was just a sarcasm. In previous topics about Jake Paul vs anyone, everyone was talking that Jake is a nobody, a youtuber who put boxing gloves on, that all his fights are rigged and he is fighting aged veterans only. Suddenly the mood of the topic has changed into huge favourite Jake is fighting against a newbie.

Nothing has really changed. Jake Paul is still fighting aged veterans in fights with easily predictable outcomes. Of course he is going to be a huge favorite when he is fighting a middleweight from a completely different sport. We’ve already seen Jake fight against former MMA fighters half a dozen times already. It’s not rocket science predicting how the outcome is supposed to go.

Quote from: TopTort777 on June 25, 2024, 03:41:17 AM

Personally, I dont really care who Jake fights against, as all of his opponents are people who can and were knocking people out cold, and he has balls to step in the ring against them. Many would be scared to have a light spar in full gear against them, but he puts on gloves, trains and crosses ring ropes.

People would be considerably less scared if they had to spar somebody who is much smaller and has virtually no experience in professional boxing. It doesn’t take any balls to participate in an opportunistic cash grab where everything is stacked in your favor.

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Now people talk differenently. Perry has little time to train. Ok. But why should he train, when many consider Jake to be a newbie? Grin

Previously everyone talked how professional fighters would defeat Jake, because they have much more experience. Now Perry has little time to prepare against rookie. Now Perry turns to have few boxing fights against rookie Grin

Jake Paul has been a pro since January 2020, 4.5 years of experience, he isn’t a newbie. Mike Perry is a professional in a completely different sport. Bare knuckle brawling against UFC fighters isn’t the kind of experience that is relevant when crossing over into a form of combat that requires a bit more than brute strength. Jake Paul knows this and that’s why he chose Perry as an opponent. Nobody outside of his fanboys and extremely casual boxing observers would consider Perry a credible opponent. It’s just a stay busy fight anyways, to prevent ring rust, so the opponent isn’t meant to be elite, but it’s still embarrassing to continue scraping the bottom of the barrel when looking for opposition.

I know all that, that was just a sarcasm. In previous topics about Jake Paul vs anyone, everyone was talking that Jake is a nobody, a youtuber who put boxing gloves on, that all his fights are rigged and he is fighting aged veterans only. Suddenly the mood of the topic has changed into huge favourite Jake is fighting against a newbie. Personally, I dont really care who Jake fights against, as all of his opponents are people who can and were knocking people out cold, and he has balls to step in the ring against them. Many would be scared to have a light spar in full gear against them, but he puts on gloves, trains and crosses ring ropes.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 23, 2024, 02:01:06 AM

Now people talk differenently. Perry has little time to train. Ok. But why should he train, when many consider Jake to be a newbie? Grin

Previously everyone talked how professional fighters would defeat Jake, because they have much more experience. Now Perry has little time to prepare against rookie. Now Perry turns to have few boxing fights against rookie Grin

I guess he will still try to trained in this fight. I mean this are professional athletes and so they are used to go and grind in the gym in preparation for a fight. And yes, he did accept this in short notice so most likely he is fully aware that training might be sure or maybe he has been in the gym already and keeping himself in shape so that when this kind of situation arises, he could readily accept it. This is still going to be exhibition fight so maybe both of them can be considered a rookie even though it looks like Jake has more experience in this kind of fights. And at the end of the day, Perry will most likely earn good enough money for this, with or without training.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 23, 2024, 02:01:06 AM

Now people talk differenently. Perry has little time to train. Ok. But why should he train, when many consider Jake to be a newbie? Grin

Previously everyone talked how professional fighters would defeat Jake, because they have much more experience. Now Perry has little time to prepare against rookie. Now Perry turns to have few boxing fights against rookie Grin

Well, he chose to be in that position so I don't see any reason to discuss whether or not he should train or anything like that.

He chose to be there and suffers all the consequences that may come from that choice. Whether he should train or not doesn't matter. He just needs to go in there and win.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 23, 2024, 02:01:06 AM

Now people talk differenently. Perry has little time to train. Ok. But why should he train, when many consider Jake to be a newbie? Grin

Previously everyone talked how professional fighters would defeat Jake, because they have much more experience. Now Perry has little time to prepare against rookie. Now Perry turns to have few boxing fights against rookie Grin

Jake Paul has been a pro since January 2020, 4.5 years of experience, he isn’t a newbie. Mike Perry is a professional in a completely different sport. Bare knuckle brawling against UFC fighters isn’t the kind of experience that is relevant when crossing over into a form of combat that requires a bit more than brute strength. Jake Paul knows this and that’s why he chose Perry as an opponent. Nobody outside of his fanboys and extremely casual boxing observers would consider Perry a credible opponent. It’s just a stay busy fight anyways, to prevent ring rust, so the opponent isn’t meant to be elite, but it’s still embarrassing to continue scraping the bottom of the barrel when looking for opposition.

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Now people talk differenently. Perry has little time to train. Ok. But why should he train, when many consider Jake to be a newbie? Grin

Previously everyone talked how professional fighters would defeat Jake, because they have much more experience. Now Perry has little time to prepare against rookie. Now Perry turns to have few boxing fights against rookie Grin

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