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July 02, 2022, 07:51:22 PM
#38
Good to see the old champion is back, he is active last year though, with two fights in 2021. So this rematch not coming from a long layoff for Donnie. In fact, maybe those two is just a gauging fights for him to see if he can still perform at high level or at least gave a good fight. And it seems he did as he won and still rated as number 4. Ioka is very good though, very rugged fighter so it's going to be very hard and it might go to the judges scorecard and hopefully Nietes can duplicate his first win.
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July 02, 2022, 07:02:10 PM
#37
I thought that Nietes is done because of his age? Now he comes back to fight a champion? He really has some balls. But yeah why not, he defeated Ioka before although it might have the Ioka has improved a lot because he has defended the belt so many times. But Nietes might be thinking that he can defeat him again and target him to reclaim his old belt. No odds yet but for sure Nietes will be the underdog again, (is he the underdog on their first fight though?).
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July 02, 2022, 06:51:45 PM
#36
One thing about Nietes is that when no one expected him to win but in the end, he emerged victorious lol.

Although Ioka were defeated last time, Nietes will be the underdog on their rematch because of age? I think there's something wrong with the bookies if that's the factor they are seeing. Everything is now depend on boxer's age rather than overall performance. I'm now more excited to see Nietes winning this fight, maybe much better if via TKO.

I want to see Nietes defeating Ioka infront of his Japanese countrymen. That's a big upset and that will be a great win for our PH representative.

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July 02, 2022, 06:45:13 PM
#35
Nietes is too old for this. He has the experience but he doesn't have the stamina and the vigor of a 33-yr old. I know he's a great boxer, but he's not on the ranks of Pacquiao who can still carry himself extremely well despite being 40 years of age. Perhaps Donnie can still put up some fight in him, but to win in a convincing fashion—or even just win—would be extremely hard for Nietes unless Ioka made some slip up which will cost him this bout.

I might disagree as he still shows fierce at the age of 39 even being sidelined for 2 years.

Being inactive on that period should give a boxer a slow performance but that's not what happened. That's the reason why I can't consider age as his disadvantage the same with Donaire that still can put up a great performance.

Although I see Ioka will be the aggressive here as he wants a bounce back win against Nietes, it doesn't mean that the old Nietes won't able to stand for long. Let's wait on the day of the fight, much better, to see if age really a disadvantage for Nietes.

their preparation would be a big factor on how they will perform inside the ring. yes, age may be a considerable factor here but how active was he in the past couple of years? ioka is younger and had recent fights. but as i said, their prep will be a big factor here. but more then likely, bookies will favor ioka when it comes to odds. nietes will come as underdog in this match.
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July 02, 2022, 06:39:31 PM
#34
There's a 95% percent probability that Nietes will be listed as an underdog in this fight if the odds comes out due to age difference.

Nietes was one of those champion boxers that used to train in our hometown, i saw/followed his career and i can say that age have really affected his performance as he slowed a bit in his last fight though he still won that one but this rematch i doubt he can end up victorious.

One thing about Nietes is that when no one expected him to win but in the end, he emerged victorious lol.

Yeah, he is old, and I watch his last fight, he is slowed too much.  I think the main factor here will be age factor just like Donaire.

Nietes is too old for this. He has the experience but he doesn't have the stamina and the vigor of a 33-yr old. I know he's a great boxer, but he's not on the ranks of Pacquiao who can still carry himself extremely well despite being 40 years of age. Perhaps Donnie can still put up some fight in him, but to win in a convincing fashion—or even just win—would be extremely hard for Nietes unless Ioka made some slip up which will cost him this bout.

I might disagree as he still shows fierce at the age of 39 even being sidelined for 2 years.

Being inactive on that period should give a boxer a slow performance but that's not what happened. That's the reason why I can't consider age as his disadvantage the same with Donaire that still can put up a great performance.

Although I see Ioka will be the aggressive here as he wants a bounce back win against Nietes, it doesn't mean that the old Nietes won't able to stand for long. Let's wait on the day of the fight, much better, to see if age really a disadvantage for Nietes.

I respect your belief but we cannot remove the fact that age greatly affects an athlete's performance.  I watch his last fight and his punch recovery after he throws is very slow which leaves him open for possible counters and that is very devastating for a boxer if exploited.
I am rooting for Nietes in this fight because he is one of my favorite until he became inactive.
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July 02, 2022, 06:38:09 PM
#33
Well, this is like the other match that we've seen yet was defeated.

Another vote for Donnie Nietes. He is not anymore a young guy but I'm sure he still has the power to defeat his opponent.

At the age of 40 years old, he has a record of 43 wins with only 1 defeat, so I believe that's a decent record and he can win.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/215599

Good luck, I hope Nietes will be listed as an underdog.

There's a 95% percent probability that Nietes will be listed as an underdog in this fight if the odds comes out due to age difference.

Nietes was one of those champion boxers that used to train in our hometown, i saw/followed his career and i can say that age have really affected his performance as he slowed a bit in his last fight though he still won that one but this rematch i doubt he can end up victorious.

One thing about Nietes is that when no one expected him to win but in the end, he emerged victorious lol.
Yeah, likely that Nietes will be the underdog in this match and he's against the champion so, the past stats won't have a thing on it. Because what matters is whoever is the holder of the title right now. Mostly, we're going for Nietes in this match and as he wants to reclaim the title, good luck to him and hopefully he gets it back.
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July 02, 2022, 06:04:34 PM
#32
Another vote for Donnie Nietes. He is not anymore a young guy but I'm sure he still has the power to defeat his opponent.

At the age of 40 years old, he has a record of 43 wins with only 1 defeat, so I believe that's a decent record and he can win.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/215599

Good luck, I hope Nietes will be listed as an underdog.

There's a 95% percent probability that Nietes will be listed as an underdog in this fight if the odds comes out due to age difference.

Nietes was one of those champion boxers that used to train in our hometown, i saw/followed his career and i can say that age have really affected his performance as he slowed a bit in his last fight though he still won that one but this rematch i doubt he can end up victorious.

One thing about Nietes is that when no one expected him to win but in the end, he emerged victorious lol.
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July 02, 2022, 05:39:03 PM
#31
Nietes is too old for this. He has the experience but he doesn't have the stamina and the vigor of a 33-yr old. I know he's a great boxer, but he's not on the ranks of Pacquiao who can still carry himself extremely well despite being 40 years of age. Perhaps Donnie can still put up some fight in him, but to win in a convincing fashion—or even just win—would be extremely hard for Nietes unless Ioka made some slip up which will cost him this bout.

I might disagree as he still shows fierce at the age of 39 even being sidelined for 2 years.

Being inactive on that period should give a boxer a slow performance but that's not what happened. That's the reason why I can't consider age as his disadvantage the same with Donaire that still can put up a great performance.

Although I see Ioka will be the aggressive here as he wants a bounce back win against Nietes, it doesn't mean that the old Nietes won't able to stand for long. Let's wait on the day of the fight, much better, to see if age really a disadvantage for Nietes.
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July 02, 2022, 04:49:00 PM
#30
It's around 36 years old where Donnie Nietes beat up a prime Kazuto Ioka at the age of 29. It means even at that age gap, Nietes can still pull up a win against a much younger opponent. I don't see any difference in terms of performance between a 36 years old and 40 years old.

What I'm more concerned is not the age but the activity of both boxers. Their strength improves over time as long as they continue to fight in the ring. Since Nietes still comes back on a good shape and established wins after being inactive, I think he can still be deadly on this fight. However, Ioka is with his fellow Japanese people that might boost his confidence and eagerness to get his revenge.
There’s a home court advantage here and a huge challenge for Nietes to get the title back to him. Ioka was able to defend the belt multiple times, and now its time for Nietes to put work on this. Age still not a matter here, their skills are and if Nietes are confident with this one, there’s still a huge chance for him to win here. This is a good rematch, I’m looking for the odds now and I think this is still good for Nietes.
Nietes won against Ioka before, he can do that again because I believe on a Filipino boxer and this is not a biased statement, I just want to state the fact here. Nietes was considered as one of the good boxer, his track record is amazing and even on that age, I'm sure he can still deliver a good match here. Ioka should not be more complacent here, he should be more eager to get his revenge while Nietes needs to be more focus as well. This is an exciting match, few more days and we will witness them again.
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July 02, 2022, 04:33:59 PM
#29
It's around 36 years old where Donnie Nietes beat up a prime Kazuto Ioka at the age of 29. It means even at that age gap, Nietes can still pull up a win against a much younger opponent. I don't see any difference in terms of performance between a 36 years old and 40 years old.

What I'm more concerned is not the age but the activity of both boxers. Their strength improves over time as long as they continue to fight in the ring. Since Nietes still comes back on a good shape and established wins after being inactive, I think he can still be deadly on this fight. However, Ioka is with his fellow Japanese people that might boost his confidence and eagerness to get his revenge.
There’s a home court advantage here and a huge challenge for Nietes to get the title back to him. Ioka was able to defend the belt multiple times, and now its time for Nietes to put work on this. Age still not a matter here, their skills are and if Nietes are confident with this one, there’s still a huge chance for him to win here. This is a good rematch, I’m looking for the odds now and I think this is still good for Nietes.
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July 02, 2022, 04:25:43 PM
#28
It's around 36 years old where Donnie Nietes beat up a prime Kazuto Ioka at the age of 29. It means even at that age gap, Nietes can still pull up a win against a much younger opponent. I don't see any difference in terms of performance between a 36 years old and 40 years old.

What I'm more concerned is not the age but the activity of both boxers. Their strength improves over time as long as they continue to fight in the ring. Since Nietes still comes back on a good shape and established wins after being inactive, I think he can still be deadly on this fight. However, Ioka is with his fellow Japanese people that might boost his confidence and eagerness to get his revenge.
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July 02, 2022, 12:54:57 PM
#27
Another vote for Donnie Nietes. He is not anymore a young guy but I'm sure he still has the power to defeat his opponent.

At the age of 40 years old, he has a record of 43 wins with only 1 defeat, so I believe that's a decent record and he can win.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/215599

Good luck, I hope Nietes will be listed as an underdog.

Donnie AHAS Nietes an old veteran boxer who will fight against kazuto loka, another great boxer. For this match up I want to put my bet in nietes which still I believe that he can win even of his age. That record he have is the proof that he is still a monster. even though kazuto is not just an easy one but for sure Donnie Nietes can do very good much and end up with a victory. And I do hope that he win unlike donaire and Pacquiao in their last fight.
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July 02, 2022, 10:42:58 AM
#26
Nietes is too old for this. He has the experience but he doesn't have the stamina and the vigor of a 33-yr old. I know he's a great boxer, but he's not on the ranks of Pacquiao who can still carry himself extremely well despite being 40 years of age. Perhaps Donnie can still put up some fight in him, but to win in a convincing fashion—or even just win—would be extremely hard for Nietes unless Ioka made some slip up which will cost him this bout.
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July 02, 2022, 10:38:35 AM
#25
The difference in this rematch is that 33-year old Ioka is now the defending champion. Nietes is now 40 years of age. And Ioka will defend his belt in his home turf in Japan.
I think it's a great meeting if Kazuto Ioka vs. Donnie Nietes, can meet in Tokyo next month, for the WBO title, this meeting I think will make a new story for Nietes in his boxing career this year, if he can beat Ioka.

The question in my mind, what makes Kazuto Ioka and Nietes, want to box again, is it a direct challenge from Nietes or vice versa a challenging Ioka, even so I think this will be a new history for both of them.

I saw, live interview by Nietes, looks like he is really excited to beat Ioka and wants to win the boxing title, this is interesting to watch and bet on.

Nietes is not anymore a title holder while Kazuto Ioka is currently the WBO super flyweight champion
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/483786

This should be a great fight, Nietes who had more experience over a younger champion should win the fight.
33 years old vs 40 years old, I hope age doesn't matter in this fight as I only see a few fighters with at least 40 years of age succeeded in a big fight.
Their last fight was so exciting the kind of fight that deserves a rematch, and so we have a rematch between the two, the first match could go either way, and that's what I'm also seeing in this match, the one who prepared the most will likely win the match, it will go out to who wants it more, Ioka who is hungry for revenge, or Nietes who wants to prove that he still has it and can still win a title.
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July 02, 2022, 10:11:12 AM
#24
The difference in this rematch is that 33-year old Ioka is now the defending champion. Nietes is now 40 years of age. And Ioka will defend his belt in his home turf in Japan.
I think it's a great meeting if Kazuto Ioka vs. Donnie Nietes, can meet in Tokyo next month, for the WBO title, this meeting I think will make a new story for Nietes in his boxing career this year, if he can beat Ioka.

The question in my mind, what makes Kazuto Ioka and Nietes, want to box again, is it a direct challenge from Nietes or vice versa a challenging Ioka, even so I think this will be a new history for both of them.

I saw, live interview by Nietes, looks like he is really excited to beat Ioka and wants to win the boxing title, this is interesting to watch and bet on.

Nietes is not anymore a title holder while Kazuto Ioka is currently the WBO super flyweight champion
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/483786

This should be a great fight, Nietes who had more experience over a younger champion should win the fight.
33 years old vs 40 years old, I hope age doesn't matter in this fight as I only see a few fighters with at least 40 years of age succeeded in a big fight.
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July 02, 2022, 10:01:50 AM
#23
The difference in this rematch is that 33-year old Ioka is now the defending champion. Nietes is now 40 years of age. And Ioka will defend his belt in his home turf in Japan.
I think it's a great meeting if Kazuto Ioka vs. Donnie Nietes, can meet in Tokyo next month, for the WBO title, this meeting I think will make a new story for Nietes in his boxing career this year, if he can beat Ioka.

The question in my mind, what makes Kazuto Ioka and Nietes, want to box again, is it a direct challenge from Nietes or vice versa a challenging Ioka, even so I think this will be a new history for both of them.

I saw, live interview by Nietes, looks like he is really excited to beat Ioka and wants to win the boxing title, this is interesting to watch and bet on.
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July 02, 2022, 09:32:22 AM
#22
I have waited to see Kazuto Ioka performance when he expected to face Jerwin Ancajas, but it's cancelled due to Ioka's home (Japan) is strict about the new wave of Covid 19. So Martinez is replacing Ioka to fight against Ancajas, however Ancajas lose the fight. If Ioka was fight against Ancajas, I'm sure he will win and already have 2 belts.

Now Ioka need to face against Nietes who have beat him on 2018, personally I think Ioka have enough skills after 3 years to prove he's deserve to have WBO belt. However even though Nietes already old, but he still have impressed record so far. In this fight, I will bet for Ioka via decision.
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July 02, 2022, 08:54:44 AM
#21
Another vote for Donnie Nietes. He is not anymore a young guy but I'm sure he still has the power to defeat his opponent.

At the age of 40 years old, he has a record of 43 wins with only 1 defeat, so I believe that's a decent record and he can win.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/215599

Good luck, I hope Nietes will be listed as an underdog.
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July 02, 2022, 08:42:08 AM
#20
Donnie Nietes is one of the PH great boxers in the Bantamweight division. What do you think guys, is this might be his last fight regardless of the result? Time is catching up to him and at 40 years of age, he is now showing signs of slowing down although he still won a title match after being inactive for over 2 years.
Can't speculate on that but that might have higher chance if somehow he's defeated compare to when he win this fight. Who knows he's still chasing that record to be one of the PH longests world champ at an old age, we may never know. I think he's still good to be at the ring but we can judge that when the fight comes against Ioka, if he can still dominate the ring.
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July 02, 2022, 08:30:49 AM
#19
Donnie Nietes is one of the PH great boxers in the Bantamweight division. What do you think guys, is this might be his last fight regardless of the result? Time is catching up to him and at 40 years of age, he is now showing signs of slowing down although he still won a title match after being inactive for over 2 years.

Kazuto Ioka will surely want his revenge and quite an advantage for him is that the fight will be held in his home country. He actively fights year by year since he lost to Nietes in 2018 and never lost yet in his last 5 matches. This will be a good title defense for him.
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