Kazuto Ioka vs Donnie Nietes II - page 9.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 02, 2022, 03:55:05 AM

Kazuto Ioka win-loss record: 28-2-15 KOs
Donnie Nietes win-loss record: 43-1-23 KOs

Good to see the rematch between this two, and it's been a while since we heard news about Nietes though its just a half a year since his last drat match against Jimenez. Well, the age might matter here but since Nietes already won against Ioka, most probably he still have a good advantage here. Less than two weeks from now we will witness again another Filipino boxer and I do hope that he can get this belt again, and lift up the pride of Filipino boxer again, I will support Nietes here. Where's the good odds for this match up?

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Quote from: Oasisman on July 02, 2022, 05:40:31 AM

I think it would be different this time now as Nietes aged since the last fight. However, he is worthy on this rematch as some boxing fans tagged it as a controversial lost for Ioka. Though it was a close fight, but Nietes clearly has landed a more heavier and clean punches than Ioka on that fight.
Now would be the perfect time to correct the controversies between their 1st match up.

Age will only come in based on a fighter's last fight so far based on his two fights there's no showing of age, Nietes is a different breed of fighter he is good at counterpunching both fighters knows each other very well, and they have given us a very good fight in their first and last fight could go either way, I'm sure there will be a lot of adjustment on both fighters so it's going to be a very exciting match and I'm betting Nietes to win the match.

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Quote from: Oasisman on July 02, 2022, 05:40:31 AM

I think it would be different this time now as Nietes aged since the last fight. However, he is worthy on this rematch as some boxing fans tagged it as a controversial lost for Ioka. Though it was a close fight, but Nietes clearly has landed a more heavier and clean punches than Ioka on that fight.
Now would be the perfect time to correct the controversies between their 1st match up.

A win is a win though even if it's controversial. And I think after that fight, maybe Nietes set his mind on retirement that's why he gave up the belt. But now, since the pandemic is over, he might want to get back his old crown and prove that he can still fight and it's going to be a rematch. Yes, this is a perfect time for both, Nietes to get back the crown and then Ioka to get his revenge win.

This is also a good closure to their last controversial fight because if Nietes could defeat Ioka again then there's no question about who are much stronger than them and those doubts about his past wins against Ioka will be erased. Also its perfect time for Ioka to prove that he's much stronger than Nietes.

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Quote from: Jating on July 02, 2022, 06:08:03 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 02, 2022, 06:01:28 AM

This one is good, we don't have a champion in the bantamweight division anymore but let's hope Nietes still got this.

He has been consistently defending his belt but I don't know if his age will not affect his performance, let's just hope the best for him and hope that he will win the fight.

Who is the favorite in this fight? May I know.

Not sure who is going to be the favorite in this fight, but I reckon it might be the Japanese, because (1) he is the champion (2) Nietes is 40 years old and not that active.

Anyhow, I think he can still fight, he is one of the best champion that the Philippines had, just doesn't have the exposure in the US and obviously the weight class. Looking forward to watch his fight, (but I wouldn't bet).

I agree with that, and this fight will also be held in Japan, so it's a home court advantage of Ioka, and that's the reason why I like to bet on Nietes because he will be an underdog and that means a very attractive odds.

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7-1 in the voting.

I'm sure most of the voters for Nietes are Filipino. I have not made research regarding Ioka, I'm gonna be biased as I'm supporting Nietes to win, though honestly I believe he is not an interesting fighter but I believe bringing glory to our country is enough for us to continuesly support him.

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Quote from: Oasisman on July 02, 2022, 05:40:31 AM

I think it would be different this time now as Nietes aged since the last fight. However, he is worthy on this rematch as some boxing fans tagged it as a controversial lost for Ioka. Though it was a close fight, but Nietes clearly has landed a more heavier and clean punches than Ioka on that fight.
Now would be the perfect time to correct the controversies between their 1st match up.

A win is a win though even if it's controversial. And I think after that fight, maybe Nietes set his mind on retirement that's why he gave up the belt. But now, since the pandemic is over, he might want to get back his old crown and prove that he can still fight and it's going to be a rematch. Yes, this is a perfect time for both, Nietes to get back the crown and then Ioka to get his revenge win.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 02, 2022, 06:01:28 AM

This one is good, we don't have a champion in the bantamweight division anymore but let's hope Nietes still got this.

He has been consistently defending his belt but I don't know if his age will not affect his performance, let's just hope the best for him and hope that he will win the fight.

Who is the favorite in this fight? May I know.

Not sure who is going to be the favorite in this fight, but I reckon it might be the Japanese, because (1) he is the champion (2) Nietes is 40 years old and not that active.

Anyhow, I think he can still fight, he is one of the best champion that the Philippines had, just doesn't have the exposure in the US and obviously the weight class. Looking forward to watch his fight, (but I wouldn't bet).

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This one is good, we don't have a champion in the bantamweight division anymore but let's hope Nietes still got this.

He has been consistently defending his belt but I don't know if his age will not affect his performance, let's just hope the best for him and hope that he will win the fight.

Who is the favorite in this fight? May I know.

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I think it would be different this time now as Nietes aged since the last fight. However, he is worthy on this rematch as some boxing fans tagged it as a controversial lost for Ioka. Though it was a close fight, but Nietes clearly has landed a more heavier and clean punches than Ioka on that fight.
Now would be the perfect time to correct the controversies between their 1st match up.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 02, 2022, 05:05:45 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on July 02, 2022, 03:55:05 AM

The difference in this rematch is that 33-year old Ioka is now the defending champion. Nietes is now 40 years of age. And Ioka will defend his belt in his home turf in Japan.

Kazuto Ioka win-loss record: 28-2-15 KOs
Donnie Nietes win-loss record: 43-1-23 KOs

Yup, that first fight was pretty close, that jab of Nietes really made a difference in the judge's decision. That was an amazing win by the former ALA pug considering that fight was held in Japan if i'm not mistaken, as we all know that Japan had a reputation of protecting their homeboys but that was not switch on in that fight lol.

Again, this rematch's output would be different from the first i think, because of age factor. Nietes was inactive for so many months due to pandemic and their stable was defunct so i think this might be it for Nietes, his last fight or he may be made a stepping stone for upcoming prospect.

Agreed, Age serves as an important factor in boxing since this game is a physical sports. I can say that the table turned already since Ioka is currently on his prime while Nietes is already in the stage of exiting the boxing world. Although I still want to give Nietes a credits since he has a good record before he become inactive in boxing but just like Pacquiao, There ‘s always a human limit if the age kicks in. I hope to still see the speed and pierce attitude like what he always do inside. He is one of my favorite boxer because he is like Pacquiao which is not cocky but professional to fight.

I will bet for Nietes on this match despite the odds.

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Quote from: Baofeng on July 02, 2022, 04:29:20 AM

Nice, yeah, Nietes defeated Ioka in 2018, and then he vacated but he says he is eager to reclaim this title. He was inactive, but in the last year, he beat Carillo via UD and then SD against Jimenez.

And for the record,
NIETES BREAKS ELORDE'S RECORD AS PH LONGEST REIGNING WORLD CHAMP.

And we can say it that hopefully he can regain his belt back, but at 40 years old, time is running out. And I'm expecting that he will be in the HOF in the future.

Nietes still has it, he is one technical fighter who loves to break down his opponent, look for weaknesses and then go for it, he doesn't look for a knockout right away but waits for the right time to do it, for me he is a perfect technical fighter, he is not a good fighter for nothing that kind of style made him the Philippine's longest champion and I believe Nietes will prevail against Ioka again, he has already shown on his last two fights that he still has all his skills.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 02, 2022, 03:55:05 AM

The difference in this rematch is that 33-year old Ioka is now the defending champion. Nietes is now 40 years of age. And Ioka will defend his belt in his home turf in Japan.

Kazuto Ioka win-loss record: 28-2-15 KOs
Donnie Nietes win-loss record: 43-1-23 KOs

Yup, that first fight was pretty close, that jab of Nietes really made a difference in the judge's decision. That was an amazing win by the former ALA pug considering that fight was held in Japan if i'm not mistaken, as we all know that Japan had a reputation of protecting their homeboys but that was not switch on in that fight lol.

Again, this rematch's output would be different from the first i think, because of age factor. Nietes was inactive for so many months due to pandemic and their stable was defunct so i think this might be it for Nietes, his last fight or he may be made a stepping stone for upcoming prospect.

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Japan always get the favor on hosting the match for there champions while Philippines boxer keeps accepting that just to make it happened although I don’t have any idea on how this choosing of venue works but I guess it depends on champion or the promoter preference on where will be more profitable to launch.

The age gap is very huge while Ioka already gain much experience compared to there last fight. Even though I want to support Nietes but I think this match will gonna be same story to Donaire vs Inoue. I don’t want to get high hope for this kind of match.

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It's near. I want to see this. A good story of rivalry. One wants to cement that he is the winner of that controversial unanimous decision and the other looking for a big bang and win the title back before his retirement. That sure is an exciting match.
According to Donnie, he had been training since February after he received the message that the fight is on. He will definitely put his A-game here and a best ending should be a knockout to erase all the doubts.

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From Manny Pacquiao retirement and then Nonito Donaire , another Filipino champion Donie "Ahas" Nietes is in the line of also retiring , as He is already in His 40's and soon maybe will be giving His fight away for resting.

I will be looking for Nietes Win here as Ioka isn't Inoue and maybe can be taken by Donnie in this fight.

Waiting for the Odds to Put my bet.

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It's clear that Nietes was not in his prime anymore but he's still the one of the mightiest boxer in his generation. The inactivity was because of the pandemic I suppose, but if he wants this fight, I firmly believe if he do then he can still fight and still dangerous in the ring.

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Nice, yeah, Nietes defeated Ioka in 2018, and then he vacated but he says he is eager to reclaim this title. He was inactive, but in the last year, he beat Carillo via UD and then SD against Jimenez.

And for the record,
NIETES BREAKS ELORDE'S RECORD AS PH LONGEST REIGNING WORLD CHAMP.

And we can say it that hopefully he can regain his belt back, but at 40 years old, time is running out. And I'm expecting that he will be in the HOF in the future.

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So the last breed of those Filipino champions that they have right now. Donaire is already out and could retire and Donnie might be the next one. Although he was shadow by his compatriot, but he is one of those solid PH champions. Anyhow, at 40 years old, let's see, Ioka is not younger as well, but obviously less wear and tear and it will be held in his hometown, so it might be very tough for Donnie. So I would say, Ioka by split decision in a very close fight.

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This is a rematch between two 4-division champions, WBO champion Kazuto Ioka defending against its former holder and nemesis, Donnie Nietes. The first match happened more 3 years ago in Macau for then vacant WBO super flyweight strap. Though Donnie Nietes won clearly, the scorecards made it a split decision. Donnie Nietes then became inactive and many thought he was actually retired because he was already 37 years old that time. The WBO decided to declare the belt vacant. Kazuto Ioka managed to win the belt and is holding it strong with 4 successful defenses.

The difference in this rematch is that 33-year old Ioka is now the defending champion. Nietes is now 40 years of age. And Ioka will defend his belt in his home turf in Japan.

Kazuto Ioka win-loss record: 28-2-15 KOs
Donnie Nietes win-loss record: 43-1-23 KOs

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