La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4661.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on April 14, 2020, 02:24:40 AM

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Quote from: Naida_BR on April 14, 2020, 01:51:35 AM

The fact that he is too young isn't an excuse for him.

It's not an excuse for his performance, but it leaves a window of opportunity open. It's far too early in his career to write him off. He has had a lot of good games in Barcelona and Dortmund colours (admittedly, far more in Dortmund) and we all can agree he has quality.

The huge pressure from his price tag and also playing for a new club, which puts one in the spotlight and attracts lots of media attention hasn't let him settle in easily. But he still has the opportunity to prove himself.

I agree that he had a lot of good games in Dortmund.
Personally, he hasn't impressed me in Barcelona and I cannot see anything in him that can show he can be a part of Barca's first team. Maybe he is a good player to play on a mediocre team. not a player to play on a top club.

I read once an article about him and his infinite injuries. Apparently it is not 100% his fault. In fact during the week, the training isn't sufficient for him to be fully ready during the game. It is like training a player to be 70% ready then asks him to play with +90% of his performance. The result is just a disaster and in that article I remember they blame Barca for destroying him. I don't know how accurate this but if it turns to be true then preferably he should escape from there if there is no intention to correct this catastrophic error!

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^ You can wear an N95 and wear the La Liga mask over it. That's what I do, wear N95 with a home made mask. You get to use the N95 multiple times. You still gotta put plastic wrap or cling wrap and seal the outside part of the mask if being stored tho. Just to be safe.

Yup... Awesome masks.

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@cygan, awesome shares! I wonder if they have trialled those yet, though? I have worn normal masks and breathing is laborious on normal breathing, can't imagine how to use it when running full pelt with sweat dripping down my face in the summer sun!

Now I am trying to recall, though, haven't some football players already used similar masks in the past? Injury related though.

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Honestly guys I don't know if I'm the only one who can't stand all this going on with my team Barca. I feel like there is a small media conspiracy to play up all the bad feelings, and making it bigger than it is (it's big but it's hardly a catastrophe I think). Sorry, just had to say that.

Quote from: Naida_BR on April 14, 2020, 01:51:35 AM

The fact that he is too young isn't an excuse for him.
He got a huge opportunity to prove himself in one of the biggest clubs in the world. If you are a valuable player you reach top performance even from your young age - just see Messi what did from the age of 19.

I don't know why people like you are so hard up on guys like him. Give him a break, he's a teenager. And no one should compare people to Messi or whoever we don't know their lives.

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the spanish league la liga will soon be back in action... all players will run around the field like ninjas Grin

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on April 14, 2020, 02:15:38 AM

Quote from: Naida_BR on April 14, 2020, 01:51:35 AM

The fact that he is too young isn't an excuse for him.

It's not an excuse for his performance, but it leaves a window of opportunity open. It's far too early in his career to write him off. He has had a lot of good games in Barcelona and Dortmund colours (admittedly, far more in Dortmund) and we all can agree he has quality.

The huge pressure from his price tag and also playing for a new club, which puts one in the spotlight and attracts lots of media attention hasn't let him settle in easily. But he still has the opportunity to prove himself.

I agree that he had a lot of good games in Dortmund.
Personally, he hasn't impressed me in Barcelona and I cannot see anything in him that can show he can be a part of Barca's first team. Maybe he is a good player to play on a mediocre team. not a player to play on a top club.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on April 14, 2020, 01:51:35 AM

The fact that he is too young isn't an excuse for him.

It's not an excuse for his performance, but it leaves a window of opportunity open. It's far too early in his career to write him off. He has had a lot of good games in Barcelona and Dortmund colours (admittedly, far more in Dortmund) and we all can agree he has quality.

The huge pressure from his price tag and also playing for a new club, which puts one in the spotlight and attracts lots of media attention hasn't let him settle in easily. But he still has the opportunity to prove himself.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on April 13, 2020, 04:13:18 PM

Yes, it's to early to write-off Dembele, he is still young. But I don't expect that he will show something what we expected in Barcelona. His attitude, injuries - I don't see his future in Barcelona. There is always big risk to buy young player for such big money. In current situation it will be difficult to sell him, but I think it will be possible when world will return to normal life.

The fact that he is too young isn't an excuse for him.
He got a huge opportunity to prove himself in one of the biggest clubs in the world. If you are a valuable player you reach top performance even from your young age - just see Messi what did from the age of 19.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on April 13, 2020, 04:59:18 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on April 13, 2020, 11:13:52 AM

What a sad ending for a football player who was destined to do great things in his career.
Barcelona spent 124 million euros on Dembele in 2017. and now they will be very happy to sell him for just a half price, 60 millon euros but nobody wants him.
Lack of seriousness and immaturity with numerous injuries have destroyed one potentially great football story.
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/04/13/5e8d1a2c22601ddd218b462d.html

Who's going to buy him at 60 Million Euros in this current state of economy? Grin

I personally never expected him to ever shine in a Barca shirt. His attitude when he was nearing the switch from Borrusia Dortmund tp Barcelona spoke volumes and i know he must be regretting the day he decided to leave his old club that cherished him.

I guess he was greedy for money and glory (to play in the top club in Europe and the world ).
Now he probably regret his decision.
It will be interesting to see what Barcelona will finally do with him 😀

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 13, 2020, 11:13:52 AM

What a sad ending for a football player who was destined to do great things in his career.
Barcelona spent 124 million euros on Dembele in 2017. and now they will be very happy to sell him for just a half price, 60 millon euros but nobody wants him.
Lack of seriousness and immaturity with numerous injuries have destroyed one potentially great football story.
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/04/13/5e8d1a2c22601ddd218b462d.html

Who's going to buy him at 60 Million Euros in this current state of economy? Grin

I personally never expected him to ever shine in a Barca shirt. His attitude when he was nearing the switch from Borrusia Dortmund tp Barcelona spoke volumes and i know he must be regretting the day he decided to leave his old club that cherished him.

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Yes, it's to early to write-off Dembele, he is still young. But I don't expect that he will show something what we expected in Barcelona. His attitude, injuries - I don't see his future in Barcelona. There is always big risk to buy young player for such big money. In current situation it will be difficult to sell him, but I think it will be possible when world will return to normal life.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 13, 2020, 11:13:52 AM

<...> Lack of seriousness and immaturity with numerous injuries have destroyed one potentially great football story.

He's just 22 yeard old, though. If he was in his late 20's then yeah, I would agree with you, but he's still got potential to become a great player. I think Barca will keep him on the squad until his contract expires in 2022, no reason to sell someone that young for 60M...Unless they want to have more cash to sign a Rakitic replacement.

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What a sad ending for a football player who was destined to do great things in his career.
Barcelona spent 124 million euros on Dembele in 2017. and now they will be very happy to sell him for just a half price, 60 millon euros but nobody wants him.
Lack of seriousness and immaturity with numerous injuries have destroyed one potentially great football story.
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/04/13/5e8d1a2c22601ddd218b462d.html

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Problems in Barcelona's management are again in the spotlight. The club, which is headquartered at Camp Nou, received a negative focus on financial problems, which increased due to the Covid-19 pandemic which made the club's income significantly reduced. This time the Barca management again had a big problem.

Barca's vice president, Emili Rousand, along with five other sections in the club's directors consisting of Enrique Tombas, Silvio Elias, Maria Teixidor, Josep Pont, and Jordi Clasamiglia, officially resigned from the club's directors, and have submitted a resignation letter to the club .

Seeing the chaos that occurred at Camp Nou, a surprising statement delivered by Victor Font is none other than Barca's presidential candidate. The 47-year-old man assessed if El Barca threatened bankruptcy if it is still led by the current directors led by Bartomeu.

Reference: https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/barcelona-news-directors-resigning-josep-maria-bartomeu-a4411891.html

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Quote from: bitgolden on April 11, 2020, 01:07:55 PM

Let's not overreact on the prices of the players right away. I understand that for a season or two we may not have huge transfers anymore, but with the times going like this, in 10 years 500 million dollars for a player wouldn't be out of question no matter how long this corona goes.

I mean surely next season we are not going to see too much of a big transfers going on when and however the season starts, and the year after that we may not really recover fully, or even a year after that as well, but eventually in 5 seasons do you really think that these huge clubs like Madrid or Barcelona will still have troubles? They can literally just sell some of their youth teams and can still make a huge amount of money. Madrid could literally sell half of their team and get younger players and start over with zero financial issues, these teams will be fine in 2-3 years max.

The rate of recovery of big fish in the economy also depends on how the small fish are doing . A season or two or even 5 is too small a time frame to recover, so that we start seeing transfers like that of Neymar.

The COVID19 pandemic hasn't even been contained for pete's sake. What if the pandemic goes on for a year? Will you be saying the same?

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^ Exactly. It's gonna be pretty stagnant not just in football but everywhere. It's also gonna take a while for the economy to get back to normal. Prolly a year of recovery.

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I think due to the corona virus & the financial problems that it’s causing teams we won’t see many huge money transfers like usual (whenever the transfer window actually opens). Barca & Real have large debts too, I don’t think it’s a tike for clubs to splash the cash, more likely a time to be frugal.

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Quote from: bitgolden on April 11, 2020, 01:07:55 PM

Let's not overreact on the prices of the players right away. I understand that for a season or two we may not have huge transfers anymore, but with the times going like this, in 10 years 500 million dollars for a player wouldn't be out of question no matter how long this corona goes.

I mean surely next season we are not going to see too much of a big transfers going on when and however the season starts, and the year after that we may not really recover fully, or even a year after that as well, but eventually in 5 seasons do you really think that these huge clubs like Madrid or Barcelona will still have troubles? They can literally just sell some of their youth teams and can still make a huge amount of money. Madrid could literally sell half of their team and get younger players and start over with zero financial issues, these teams will be fine in 2-3 years max.

agree, these clubs will always have their fan clubs, with millions of fans, and that is what is driving their revenues, so they will always have better TV rights, funding and etc. and will be in a position to have money for good players, on the other hand with fresh 2 trillion USD on the market, it will be easier to put 500 million into a player, it is not the same 500 million as this year, and certainly not as ten years ago

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Let's not overreact on the prices of the players right away. I understand that for a season or two we may not have huge transfers anymore, but with the times going like this, in 10 years 500 million dollars for a player wouldn't be out of question no matter how long this corona goes.

I mean surely next season we are not going to see too much of a big transfers going on when and however the season starts, and the year after that we may not really recover fully, or even a year after that as well, but eventually in 5 seasons do you really think that these huge clubs like Madrid or Barcelona will still have troubles? They can literally just sell some of their youth teams and can still make a huge amount of money. Madrid could literally sell half of their team and get younger players and start over with zero financial issues, these teams will be fine in 2-3 years max.

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Quote from: AakZaki on April 06, 2020, 06:45:32 PM

Football Espana^[1] reported that the 2019/20 La Liga participating clubs could suffer losses of up to 957 million euros if the season was stopped. Such losses can occur if soccer competitions at all levels are stopped. The level of losses that occur can change if not all are stopped, which is related to continental level competition.

The overall loss occurred due to loss of income from broadcasting rights, ticket sales, and other aspects of the operational activities of all participating clubs, which could occur in various countries in the future due to the Cov-19 pandemic.

Reference^[1]: https://www.football-espana.net/2020/04/02/la-liga-clubs-could-lose-up-to-e957m-if-season-is-cancelled/amp#click=https://t.co/haGKMT7FlU

The global economy suffers losses due to coronavirus, so it is normal that La Liga is going to be a part of that as well.
The biggest losses are going to come for the tickets as most games now are going to be played without spectators.
The contracts for the tv revenues are going to be fulfilled as the games are going to be played.

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