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Topic: LEGENDARY BITCOIN ESCROW SERVICE (More than 19K BTC transferred) - alts too! - page 15. (Read 53314 times)

donator
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Maybe a mod could take a look at the screen shot of the conversation? Also maybe take a look at the IPs that accessed my account because if OGNasty is telling the truth than this site has a major security flaw and someone is using it and OGNasty to take advantage of it.

All I want is the screen shot of me saying "send me a refund to this address". He will not provide because it did not happen. Now he refuses to communicate with me aside from calling me a scammer and saying good luck you're going to need it.

I forwarded the screenshot to the account I was in communication with.  If you recover your account, you will see it in there waiting for you. 

You're blaming me for you not keeping your account secure.  On top of that, I literally told you this would happen and not to send BTC and you ignored me. 

Now that you were scammed you attack the one person who warned you repeatedly not to engage in the deal and not the seller who was sending you phishing links?  Why not post a scam accusation showing the phishing links you were sent?  Did you fall for them and give away your login info?  Why attack the escrow agent who told you not to do the deal?  Why did the scammer who took over your account only lock you out hours later after I refused the extortion attempts? 
newbie
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He even refuses to send a screen shot of the conversation but will only provide some poorly HACKED up "quoted" text requesting a refund.
How about you post proof of your own allegations first? If you *truly think* that you have a valid case, then you could also start a separate thread in this section.

So you can see my conversations? awesome, because I can't. My account password has been changed. Maybe you could forward me the scammers username? I'm sure I'll get equally as far with him as I am with you in regards to this imaginary conversation you had with me about my money.
newbie
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Yeah just a simple screen shot of the conversation of me requesting a refund is all I ask. If you can prove this than my point is null and void.

What does this rule mean - signature required for any refund request to a different address?

It's funny because I woke up at 4am and found this convo about this refund and immediately contacted OGNasty who stated it's 2 am there and it's not his problem. At this time those messages were not in my outbox just quoted fromOgNasty. 2 hours later my account password and email is changed and of course he won't provide the screen shot.

Maybe a mod could take a look at the screen shot of the conversation? Also maybe take a look at the IPs that accessed my account because if OGNasty is telling the truth than this site has a major security flaw and someone is using it and OGNasty to take advantage of it.

 
All I want is the screen shot of me saying "send me a refund to this address". He will not provide because it did not happen. Now he refuses to communicate with me aside from calling me a scammer and saying good luck you're going to need it.
legendary
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Terminated.
He even refuses to send a screen shot of the conversation but will only provide some poorly HACKED up "quoted" text requesting a refund.
How about you post proof of your own allegations first? If you *truly think* that you have a valid case, then you could also start a separate thread in this section.
donator
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Addressing the above extortion attempt...

I told the user not to send funds to escrow. I told him the deal was too good to be true and that he was dealing with a scammer.  He didn't listen and sent the funds anyway.  He then immediately wanted a refund and sent several messages asking me to refund an address. The other party was non-responsive and I'd sent several messages confirming the refund address and waited a few hours for communication and verified all communications were with 1 account. So I refunded the only account I had been in communication with. Immediately after he starts accusing me of stealing his funds and lying about the messages which wasn't a problem for hours until BTC was sent. He tries over and over again to get me to call him on the phone and when I refuse he starts saying he's going to sue me if I don't pay him $1600. He refuses to contact the site mods to see if another ip logged into his account and only wants me to pay $1600 for him doing the exact opposite of what I said to do and then trying to use that to extort me.

It is a shame that with every big increase in price comes a new wave of pathetic scammers. However, I'm not going to pay an extortion fee. Ever. Your time is better used elsewhere and you are responsible for securing your own bitcointalk account, not me.



EDIT: I forwarded the screenshots to the account that sent them as requested.  Now the user is claiming he's been locked out of his account and accusing me of all sorts of nonsense, yet I don't see any messages being sent to the seller that supposedly scammed him, nor any threads to try and reclaim his account.  He's now making threats and it's clear his demands are endless.
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I must say if OGNasty qualifies for AA rated escrow - there is no way bitcoin will survive.

So I was contacted by some to buy a L3+ for a good rate ($1600) and I asked to use OGNasty as escrow. Seller stated this was not a problem - so I sent the BTC to OGNasty. Seller agreed to ship the next day.

I wake up at 4:30 am and have a message from OGNasty with some quoted text about how I want a refund but not to the original address but some new address and OGNasty obliged and sent my $1600 to some random BTC account (not mine!)

Now I am trying to communicate with OGNasty and he is very defensive. Refuses to contact me via telephone. Acts like this is not his problem. I'm not sure what his #2 rule is about requesting a refund but I never agreed or signed anything. As far as I was concerned he was holding funds until seller ships and I receive. He even refuses to send a screen shot of the conversation but will only provide some poorly HACKED up "quoted" text requesting a refund.

Now I'm out $1600 plus escrow fee and have an "escrow agent" who wants me to stop contacting him and refuses to offer any assistance. AWESOME!

donator
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Hey, we chatted on skype

I don't use Skype. So no, we didn't.
newbie
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jr. member
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Seek the truth
Under what conditions do you generally release the funds back to the buyer?

When the seller asks me to. I'm not a judge or jury. I make no decisions. Any disputes are handled by the community. In ~4 years of providing escrow services, I have never once had to send the funds somewhere that wasn't agreed upon by both parties.

I understand, this makes sense. Thanks for the details!
donator
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Under what conditions do you generally release the funds back to the buyer?

When the seller asks me to. I'm not a judge or jury. I make no decisions. Any disputes are handled by the community. In ~4 years of providing escrow services, I have never once had to send the funds somewhere that wasn't agreed upon by both parties.
jr. member
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Seek the truth
Do you also also escrow the goods themselves, by having me mail them to you once you receive the BTC payment?

Nope.  I have no plans to pretend to be a goods verification expert.  I help transfer BTC from one address to another safely at the request of a buyer looking to spend Bitcoin.

Thanks for the quick response! I understand why you would want to avoid verifying goods Smiley

However  I'm curious what the process is like if the buyer claims an issue with the delivery during the escrow transaction. If the buyer is acting fraudulently, that would be a huge risk for the seller.

Under what conditions do you generally release the funds back to the buyer?
donator
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Do you also also escrow the goods themselves, by having me mail them to you once you receive the BTC payment?

Nope.  I have no plans to pretend to be a goods verification expert.  I help transfer BTC from one address to another safely at the request of a buyer looking to spend Bitcoin.
jr. member
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Hello OG Nasty!

How does escrow work with physical goods? Do you also also escrow the goods themselves, by having me mail them to you once you receive the BTC payment? And then you send me the BTC payment (minus your fee) once you've received the goods? I would send the goods to you with a tracking number and delivery confirmation, of course.

If I were to the send the goods to the buyer directly, it seems to me that would open up a lot of possibilities for complications, as they could claim the goods never came, etc.

I am considering selling a few untampered physical Casascius bitcoins, which is why I am asking. Thanks!
sr. member
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Hi OgNasty just send you the PM also.
I have used Poloniex account to send you the BTC so my Deposit address and withdraw addresses are naturally different. Riddles01 prove to be a scammer and you can share our PM conversation here in this thread so that everybody else gets a good idea how scammers work. so my Poloniex BTC deposit address is as under
1K1oiwxfmiPyDuj6Hvk8aWPAo11CBCNGQ.
Again thank You for your service. It saved me.
Scammer    Riddles01
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/riddles01-39619
is active in the forums and he is sending different links to hack your BTT account.
He sent me the links (i don't want to share them so that anybody can not accidently click them). 
sr. member
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Hi OgNasty just send you the PM also.
I have used Poloniex account to send you the BTC so my Deposit address and withdraw addresses are naturally different. Riddles01 prove to be a scammer and you can share our PM conversation here in this thread so that everybody else gets a good idea how scammers work. so my Poloniex BTC deposit address is as under
1K1oiwxfmiPyDuj6Hvk8aWPAo11CBCNGQ.
Again thank You for your service. It saved me.
full member
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This seems to be nice idea. I am a newbie in bitcoin. Might be using your services in future.  Just a small suggestion, Why can't you quote the positive replies/reviews you got in main op. Reading a long thread is time consuming.
donator
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sr. member
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I do not know what techniques does OgNasty use but once i was looking for some exchange and got a message from a jr.member mentioning he has escrowed funds to OgNasty and he also had sent me a real looking screenshot where he was transferring his funds to OgNasty.
I immediately asked OgNasty about this fund and he instantly replied the i am being scammed!
I am very thankful to, your service is really appreciateable.
newbie
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i see youre thread soo later already loose some $ in this forum
next time i know where i found legit escrow
member
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Buyer: coin.trader
Seller: zaizoun
BTC Amount: 1.83 BTC
Transaction: Wester union transaction
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