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legendary
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November 28, 2023, 07:08:47 AM
this very detailed article argues that the ln is not dead because of the high fees, but is used in other ways. it is used as a kind of settlement layer for custodial apps:

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A reality check on the limitations of Lightning Network, and what that means in terms of its long term viability. No, it's not doomed, but it probably won't be used the way you expected it to be.
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/lightning-is-doomed
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
November 26, 2023, 08:42:10 PM
it seemed that in earlier times (with many incidents between 2013 and 2021), China was the seemingly overbearing regulator, but now the USA seems to be stepping in that role in a variety of ways, even though surely it is interesting to see various extents that some of the jurisdictions seem to be in line with each other and other ways that they seem to not want to align, whether it is aligning with the USA, aligning with China or maybe creating some other alliance..
It's almost as though it were a dick-swinging contest between USA and China.  Like it's somehow important for both of them to be seen as the "World Leader" by childishly stamping on free enterprise wherever they find it.  Whoever is the most draconian seemingly gets the bragging rights or something.  It's weird.

I think that bitcoin was largely designed for this, including that game theory is likely going to have some defectors, if we are considering prisoner's dilemma kinds of situations, even though sometimes there are going to be seeming periods of cooperation, but from time to time, there also is going to likely be defections because I doubt anyone really wants a world government that is controlled by the other, and even if they are trying to forestall matters related to bitcoin, is also seems likely that shelling points are going to continue to revolve around bitcoin as the most trustworthy neutral of currencies, and even if governments cannot really control bitcoin as much as they would like, there are quite a fiew advantages to agreeing upon a neutral currency, and there is nothing that is even close to bitcoin in terms of a possible competitor.. what are they going to do settle in Ethereum.. that would be fucking retarded, even though some will likely give some lip services to their supposed enlightenment about various blockchains or whatever else might be their distracting talking points in which they are ongoingly failing/refusing to recognize king daddy bitcoin for the decentralized power that it is.
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 12:54:23 PM
other things are the BOI
https://www.fincen.gov/boi

businesses as of january 2024 need to file the true human beneficiary owners of a company. meaning they cant just put virtual mailboxes and hire an accountant to be the businesses 'company correspondence' on file

shell companies and anonymous CEO's are about to have a shake up
legendary
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Leave no FUD unchallenged
November 26, 2023, 12:19:08 PM
it seemed that in earlier times (with many incidents between 2013 and 2021), China was the seemingly overbearing regulator, but now the USA seems to be stepping in that role in a variety of ways, even though surely it is interesting to see various extents that some of the jurisdictions seem to be in line with each other and other ways that they seem to not want to align, whether it is aligning with the USA, aligning with China or maybe creating some other alliance..

It's almost as though it were a dick-swinging contest between USA and China.  Like it's somehow important for both of them to be seen as the "World Leader" by childishly stamping on free enterprise wherever they find it.  Whoever is the most draconian seemingly gets the bragging rights or something.  It's weird.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
November 26, 2023, 11:57:29 AM
one have any tin-foil hat conspiracy theories why they're leaving? Are dark market entities starting to use the Lightning Network for more privacy?
no need for conspiracy theories.. if you do your research you can find facts, not theories..

WoS does more then just a 'wallet' would. they offer other services too.. so WoS is not just a wallet its a money service business(MSB) also they are a VASP Virtual asset Service Provider

then look at what american regulations wants MSB and VASPs to do

Overall any companies that are doing business in the USA or connected with USA residents are likely getting more and more nervous about various regulatory hurdles and perhaps even being a kind of atmosphere in which there is nearly no way to win, even if you believe that you are being fully cooperative and compliant.

Likely the USA is going to put itself at various disadvantages in regards to how stringent that they are, yet we cannot be sure how these matters are going to play out, in terms of abilities to try to operate outside of the USA and to NOT get touched by USA regulatory overreach. I am not really sure if Binance's mistake was to enter into the USA with its BinanceUS branch or if the USA might have still continued to pursue Binance in draconian ways, even if they had not established a USA division.   

Sometimes it might seem like damned if you do (cooperate and stay in the USA) and damned if you don't, even though if you don't stay in the USA, you might be able to try to hide for a bit longer - yet when any system is getting overly BIG, then US regulators seem to believe that it is fair game for them to regulate it, as if they were the world police. which just is an ongoing phenomena that have greater appearances of desperation in recent times, at least from the perspective of any of us trying to study and figure out what is going on with bitcoin in the USA as compared with other jurisdictions, and even that it seemed that in earlier times (with many incidents between 2013 and 2021), China was the seemingly overbearing regulator, but now the USA seems to be stepping in that role in a variety of ways, even though surely it is interesting to see various extents that some of the jurisdictions seem to be in line with each other and other ways that they seem to not want to align, whether it is aligning with the USA, aligning with China or maybe creating some other alliance.. Does El Salvador count as being somewhat out of the polar sides or not?
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 07:39:29 AM
one have any tin-foil hat conspiracy theories why they're leaving? Are dark market entities starting to use the Lightning Network for more privacy?

no need for conspiracy theories.. if you do your research you can find facts, not theories..

WoS does more then just a 'wallet' would. they offer other services too.. so WoS is not just a wallet its a money service business(MSB) also they are a VASP Virtual asset Service Provider

then look at what american regulations wants MSB and VASPs to do
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 06:41:51 AM


Although it was observed that WalletOfSatoshi is set to have its record breaking month of processing 1.1 million payments through the Lightning Network, their team has announced that they will be leaving the United States. They didn't give any reason why.

Does anyone have any tin-foil hat conspiracy theories why they're leaving? Are dark market entities starting to use the Lightning Network for more privacy?
legendary
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🔐Icarus CEO💳
November 23, 2023, 06:04:41 AM
with yesterday's update to version 0.6.9-420, the Blixt wallet has added a new feature to its wallet app: the Lightning Box.
the new feature is an ln provider for mobile node like Blixt wallet, letting you receive lightning address payments directly to your phone. the whole thing can also be used for nostr tipping.
the complete changelog as well as the dl-files can be found under the following github link:
https://github.com/hsjoberg/blixt-wallet/releases/tag/v0.6.9-420
legendary
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October 18, 2023, 05:56:03 PM

If it doesn't manage that, then perhaps it'll at least lure some of the ordinals junk away from the base layer.  Taproot Assets is a more resource-efficient and elegant approach to handling stuff like NFTs. 

Having some DeFi-like instrument in the higher bitcoin layer is the holy grail in crypto.
This would greatly help the Bitcoin adoption, basically making every other alt useless.
Can't wait! Rooting for tgb TaRo Taproot Assets
legendary
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Farewell, Leo
October 18, 2023, 01:37:55 PM
If it doesn't manage that, then perhaps it'll at least lure some of the ordinals junk away from the base layer.  Taproot Assets is a more resource-efficient and elegant approach to handling stuff like NFTs.
I'm not an Ordinal user, but I remember reading they are files embedded into the chain. Like, a whole image. That ain't an NFT, that's just the definition of inefficient approach to storing files.

I know sane people like us want to do this in the most efficient manner, but apparently, this isn't about efficiency. It's about storing the damn chunk of bytes on-chain, because there appears to be some main layer evaluation. People just want to store files on the main layer, because they know they aren't going anywhere. And it's true; comparably to the off-chain and sidechain solutions, the main layer is the one which cannot be turned down at all.
legendary
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Leave no FUD unchallenged
October 18, 2023, 01:24:10 PM
today the first mainnet version of taproot assets was released. with this version (0.3.0-alpha) developers can issue financial assets on chain in a scalable manner.
if you want to know more about the taproot assets and which features the alpha version now offers, you should visit these two links:

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Taproot Assets on Mainnet: A New Era for Bitcoin and Beyond
https://lightning.engineering/posts/2023-10-18-taproot-assets-v0.3/

https://github.com/lightninglabs/taproot-assets/releases/tag/v0.3.0

Hoping for good things.  Best case scenario, we'll see some disruption of real-world financial services.  So much of traditional finance involves middlemen and this has the potential to replace a fair few of them.  If designed properly, there could be some fully decentralised, peer-to-peer financial use-cases that really benefit people. 

If it doesn't manage that, then perhaps it'll at least lure some of the ordinals junk away from the base layer.  Taproot Assets is a more resource-efficient and elegant approach to handling stuff like NFTs. 
legendary
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🔐Icarus CEO💳
October 18, 2023, 11:25:03 AM
today the first mainnet version of taproot assets was released. with this version (0.3.0-alpha) developers can issue financial assets on chain in a scalable manner.
if you want to know more about the taproot assets and which features the alpha version now offers, you should visit these two links:

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Taproot Assets on Mainnet: A New Era for Bitcoin and Beyond
https://lightning.engineering/posts/2023-10-18-taproot-assets-v0.3/

https://github.com/lightninglabs/taproot-assets/releases/tag/v0.3.0
copper member
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October 12, 2023, 01:45:53 PM
Very good content; thank you for sharing.

Why does the Lightning Network lead to lower fees?
legendary
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October 12, 2023, 01:40:45 PM
he team at Blockstream is officially launching their lightning service 'Greenlight' today, which aims to make it more efficient and easier for businesses in particular to manage a lightning node - and non-custodial!


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Greenlight is our scalable, non-custodial Lightning-as-a-Service, or LaaS, solution that offloads the complexities of operating a Lightning node to Blockstream experts while keeping keys in the user's control for greater security. For Lightning developers, this not only reduces the risk and liability of holding user funds but frees up resources that would otherwise go to node operations—so that you can focus on your business and create the best app possible.
https://blog.blockstream.com/greenlight-is-now-open-for-business/

This is a huge improvement in the adoption of Bitcoin, as the complexity of efficiently running a bitcoin node are becoming more and more critical. Channel management, liquidity optimization, and technical reliability are not granted, but the result of a dedicated effort.
In offloading this to an external provider, Blockstream, which is dedicated to this (and has scale economies) LN users can focus on the business case LN is adopted for.
legendary
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🔐Icarus CEO💳
October 12, 2023, 09:33:29 AM
the team at Blockstream is officially launching their lightning service 'Greenlight' today, which aims to make it more efficient and easier for businesses in particular to manage a lightning node - and non-custodial!


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Greenlight is our scalable, non-custodial Lightning-as-a-Service, or LaaS, solution that offloads the complexities of operating a Lightning node to Blockstream experts while keeping keys in the user's control for greater security. For Lightning developers, this not only reduces the risk and liability of holding user funds but frees up resources that would otherwise go to node operations—so that you can focus on your business and create the best app possible.
https://blog.blockstream.com/greenlight-is-now-open-for-business/
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
October 11, 2023, 09:56:29 AM
the lightning network is gaining ground. since 2021, its usage rate has increased by 1212%!!! in august, 6.6 million transactions were completed using it. equal two years earlier it was 'only' 503,000 transactions.
in an october 10th report, River Research analyst Sam Wouters highlighted that the increase in lightning network transactions, which use more than two nodes to facilitate transfers, occurred despite a 44% drop in the price of Bitcoin and significantly less interest in cryptocurrencies overall. you can read the whole report under the link below:


https://river.com/learn/files/river-lightning-report-2023.pdf

That is a very nice, well-written and quite few decent charts and surely good analysis throughout.

There are some places in which they suggest that their data might not be complete.. and perhaps that might be due to differences between public and private channels and some difficulties in measuring private channels - even though ultimately they are asserting that they are directionally correct in terms of lightning network continuing to experience a decent amount of growth - even when there remain some ongoing concerns in reference to custodial versus non-custodial solutions that are in place and still being developed perhaps a bit biased in the custodial direction (meaning through third parties, rather than having more self-custodial options and/or routing).  
legendary
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🔐Icarus CEO💳
October 11, 2023, 08:05:58 AM
the lightning network is gaining ground. since 2021, its usage rate has increased by 1212%!!! in august, 6.6 million transactions were completed using it. equal two years earlier it was 'only' 503,000 transactions.
in an october 10th report, River Research analyst Sam Wouters highlighted that the increase in lightning network transactions, which use more than two nodes to facilitate transfers, occurred despite a 44% drop in the price of Bitcoin and significantly less interest in cryptocurrencies overall. you can read the whole report under the link below:


https://river.com/learn/files/river-lightning-report-2023.pdf
legendary
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October 08, 2023, 04:40:20 PM
Lately node and channel count, and aggregated Bitcoin count has dipped, only to partially recover during the last sessions.
During the ordinal saga, I would have expected numbers go up during this period when base layer was congested.
Any idea about the reasons for this?


legendary
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October 04, 2023, 10:08:25 AM
yesterday the lnd 0.17 beta version was announced. the new release which again has 30 developers working on it, has among others the following features:

  • simple taproot channels enabling a lower cost and more private ln
  • faster neutrino syncs for mobile development
  • more efficient watchtowers

the complete release notes can be found in the github link: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/docs/release-notes/release-notes-0.17.0.md and a detailed article can be found in the following link: https://lightning.engineering/posts/2023-10-03-lnd-0.17-launch/
legendary
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Farewell, Leo
September 17, 2023, 07:12:47 AM
The LN nodes are more than BTC nodes.
There aren't more LN nodes than BTC nodes. There are more LN nodes than reachable BTC nodes. That refers to Bitcoin nodes that are listening for incoming connections. But the default setting when setting up a Bitcoin full node is to only accept outgoing connections. Site bitnodes.io estimates there are over 45 thousand Bitcoin nodes in total: https://bitnodes.io/nodes/all/.

That being said, it's also possible that both that estimation and the total LN nodes estimation is inaccurate. It isn't easy to have accuracy on finding the total nodes of completely peer-to-peer networks.
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