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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyicounification-data-liquidity-protocol-2k-eth-allocated-5067598, https://archive.is/bVxia - Account OP: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/unification-1976388
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- ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266054.240, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-ieo-amepay-crypto-retail-ieo-in-bkex-listing-in-bithumb-global-5280826
- Account OP: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/amepay-2834123
- Proof: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55246760, https://archive.is/wip/LiURX
I wonder. Projects at the top of the list were given red trust and even red flags. However, it seems that for several months no one has paid attention to the projects that are added here. Does this mean that this form of marketing is starting to become acceptable? 
Apart from spam, of course.
I generally avoid giving negative tags unless I can find something else suspicious about some of those projects that are on the list (and if you check there are quite a few of those that I tagged&flagged for other stuff) but it's up to the each member here to make that decision. Best would be to simply nuke the threads that consist solely of shill posts and that don't have any regular members active, but unfortunately my reports stayed unhandled so I guess forum staff doesn't agree with that. Apart from spam, of course.Funny so see how lazy this bumbing service is. They use same account posting sequence as in Totem. tiogallluli > maurearejumb > doubmiytiri > Akoan > leshogesan > Ronald22lubukuali ( easy to be noticed on Totem page 3 and UBERSTATE page 1). Bumper probably has a excel document with login/password and just re-login by the list.
Hah yeah, I wonder how much are they paying for such a shitty job these shillers are doing. Strange that they have chosen tactics of just asking questions and OP is not answering them (must be lazy also).
On the contrary, I see that behaviour quite often, OP starting the thread and then abandoning while shills are doing their work for weeks without a single answer. 
Another thread has been added to the list, making it 92nd.
[ANN] UBERSTATE — a leader in banking as a service for crypto currency!
[ANN] UBERSTATE — a leader in banking as a service for crypto currency!
Just wanted to post this ANN topic here, but you have outstripped me
Funny so see how lazy this bumbing service is. They use same account posting sequence as in Totem. tiogallluli > maurearejumb > doubmiytiri > Akoan > leshogesan > Ronald22lubukuali ( easy to be noticed on Totem page 3 and UBERSTATE page 1). Bumper probably has a excel document with login/password and just re-login by the list.
Strange that they have chosen tactics of just asking questions and OP is not answering them (must be lazy also).
I wonder. Projects at the top of the list were given red trust and even red flags. However, it seems that for several months no one has paid attention to the projects that are added here. Does this mean that this form of marketing is starting to become acceptable? Apart from spam, of course.
Apart from spam, of course.
Another thread has been added to the list, making it 92nd.
[ANN] UBERSTATE — a leader in banking as a service for crypto currency!
https://archive.fo/VNBSY
Group of accounts that are working on two previously added announcement threads (Rubic and Totem) is active in Uberstate as well. Despite my warnings in their thread, explaining them that the same service they hired promoted numerous scams and it won't bring them attention they aimed for, they decided to keep going with the thread bumping, therefore putting themselves on this list.
[ANN] UBERSTATE — a leader in banking as a service for crypto currency!
https://archive.fo/VNBSY
Group of accounts that are working on two previously added announcement threads (Rubic and Totem) is active in Uberstate as well. Despite my warnings in their thread, explaining them that the same service they hired promoted numerous scams and it won't bring them attention they aimed for, they decided to keep going with the thread bumping, therefore putting themselves on this list.
As I said, it looks like them but I can't be 100 sure that they are behind Upwork bumping but in the end it doesn't matter much who exactly is doing that.
Exactly. It doesn't matter who does this, but it is important to identify and publicly denounce those projects. This is not marketing, but a scammy behavior, and no serious project is going to act like that.
It's just as bad as plagiarizing a white paper or having a fake project team. It's really good that you keep this topic up to date.
The ANN thread owner did do bumping services but it not mostly done by the Vitor Services cause some project owner do it by themselves, I an saying this cause I have seen a lot of fiveer users who offers services in selling forum account which I think they can easily buy and pump the ANN themselves, either way, it could the work of Vito but they are not always behind it.
Well of course they are not the only ones that are offering bumping, I know that there are many of them offering services via Fiverr, but somehow I doubt those have access to Newbie accounts made in 2011. When you look at these cases long enough you start noticing some patterns. As I said, it looks like them but I can't be 100% sure that they are behind Upwork bumping but in the end it doesn't matter much who exactly is doing that.The 'workbit' thread is likely connected to the guys with malware wallets/fake miners, i mean it has to be one of theirs, all of the evidence leads to them.
It's either them, or maybe they have the same account supplier. Someone had to think in advance and make all those accounts back in the early bitcointalk days and probably is selling them in bulk. Looks to me like they have unlimited amount of those old accounts as no matter how many of them get banned, new ones are constantly popping up.But I think you are onto something here with Workbit-malware wallets connection as I see Workbit ANN has been reported yesterday to have malware link so hopefully it gets deleted soon.
One more thread has been added to the list
[ANN] BUMO - Public Blockchain for Ubiquitous Value Transfer
Thread was created yestrday and almost immediately newbies started their work. Accounts used are also active on several other threads that are already on the list like Baex, Base Protocol, Investro, Totem etc.
The 'workbit' thread is likely connected to the guys with malware wallets/fake miners, i mean it has to be one of theirs, all of the evidence leads to them.
Accounts peter054 and riefly have previously shilled in ZECZERO, their wallets were detected to be malware:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55407165
riefly's first shill post (after almost 3 years pause) is here:
^someone had their account stolen and fake ann with malware wallets posted on their behalf.
Most of the accounts in workbit thread are old, as pointed above, accounts who have woken up around the same time have posted malware:
bbtou - is an active poster in workbit thread
Look what cdazzle, gunnit and merakesh have posted:
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5601/56012436.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5601/56012458.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5601/56012472.html
One more example, capterra aged account shilling as well:
check out spaceman303 and bitcoinbroker's posts:
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5602/56024524.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5602/56024531.html
Accounts peter054 and riefly have previously shilled in ZECZERO, their wallets were detected to be malware:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55407165
riefly's first shill post (after almost 3 years pause) is here:
Quote from: brkttlv https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276287.msg55208651#msg55208651
Attention Please!!! These guys stole my profile and post this topic. Please be aware of this project don't believe them.
^someone had their account stolen and fake ann with malware wallets posted on their behalf.
Most of the accounts in workbit thread are old, as pointed above, accounts who have woken up around the same time have posted malware:
bbtou - is an active poster in workbit thread
Look what cdazzle, gunnit and merakesh have posted:
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5601/56012436.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5601/56012458.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5601/56012472.html
One more example, capterra aged account shilling as well:
check out spaceman303 and bitcoinbroker's posts:
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5602/56024524.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5602/56024531.html
Hello Rikafip,
I think that [ANN] Workbit - Freelance platform belong to be in the list of using bumping service.
Topic is self-moderated, lots of old Newbie and Jr.Member accounts that started to post on January 4-5. They post only in this exact topic and create a conversation between each other. I've made a simple post with hint that might help project to improve, but it seems on purpose it was either ignored or got no reaction.
You are absolutely right, they indeed hired bumping service and by the looks of it, they hired most popular one, Vitor Services. All accounts are at least few years, some are even from 2011 (I still wonder how they have so many accounts from that early bitcointalk period) and they are currently active only in Workbit announcement thread. Standard Vitor Services M.O.. I think that [ANN] Workbit - Freelance platform belong to be in the list of using bumping service.
Topic is self-moderated, lots of old Newbie and Jr.Member accounts that started to post on January 4-5. They post only in this exact topic and create a conversation between each other. I've made a simple post with hint that might help project to improve, but it seems on purpose it was either ignored or got no reaction.
Hello Rikafip,
I think that [ANN] Workbit - Freelance platform belong to be in the list of using bumping service.
Topic is self-moderated, lots of old Newbie and Jr.Member accounts that started to post on January 4-5. They post only in this exact topic and create a conversation between each other. I've made a simple post with hint that might help project to improve, but it seems on purpose it was either ignored or got no reaction.
You are absolutely right, they indeed hired bumping service and by the looks of it, they hired most popular one, Vitor Services. All accounts are at least few years, some are even from 2011 (I still wonder how they have so many accounts from that early bitcointalk period) and they are currently active only in Workbit announcement thread. Standard Vitor Services M.O.I think that [ANN] Workbit - Freelance platform belong to be in the list of using bumping service.
Topic is self-moderated, lots of old Newbie and Jr.Member accounts that started to post on January 4-5. They post only in this exact topic and create a conversation between each other. I've made a simple post with hint that might help project to improve, but it seems on purpose it was either ignored or got no reaction.
Workbit thread has been added to the list, making it 90th entry since I started eight months ago, and that's just those were identified and reported here, who knows how many more are still undetected.
Hello Rikafip,
I think that [ANN] Workbit - Freelance platform belong to be in the list of using bumping service.
Topic is self-moderated, lots of old Newbie and Jr.Member accounts that started to post on January 4-5. They post only in this exact topic and create a conversation between each other. I've made a simple post with hint that might help project to improve, but it seems on purpose it was either ignored or got no reaction.
I think that [ANN] Workbit - Freelance platform belong to be in the list of using bumping service.
Topic is self-moderated, lots of old Newbie and Jr.Member accounts that started to post on January 4-5. They post only in this exact topic and create a conversation between each other. I've made a simple post with hint that might help project to improve, but it seems on purpose it was either ignored or got no reaction.
All shady comments from their thread have been deleted.
And the new ones keep appearing. I just don't understand why mods simply didn't delete/locked the thread as it is a a clear violation of bitcointalk rules, my report is still unhandled.Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.
Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here.
Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here.
Now I also noticed that they received an unnatural amount of positive feedback in the "Trust" section within a few days. In my opinion, leaving a positive "trust" is also one of the requirements in some airdrop or campaign they are running:
Yeah it is obviously connected to airdrop as same accounts that left comments on the thread also left positive trust feedbacks. If you check their website, you won't find that among the requirements so I guess they have at least that much brain not to ask for that openly but rather "under the table". The thread is full of comments from users whose accounts were created probably just to talk only about this project.
I don't know if someone has purchased bumping service or creates these accounts by himself, but it looks quite suspicious: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndefi-the-fastest-way-to-earn-defi-passive-income-5305207
It indeed looks suspicious and upon checking their announcement thread and website I found the evidence of making commenting on Ann thread one of the requirements for their airdrop which is against the forum rules. I don't know if someone has purchased bumping service or creates these accounts by himself, but it looks quite suspicious: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndefi-the-fastest-way-to-earn-defi-passive-income-5305207
I reported the thread to moderators and hopefully it gets deleted soon.
All shady comments from their thread have been deleted.
Now I also noticed that they received an unnatural amount of positive feedback in the "Trust" section within a few days. In my opinion, leaving a positive "trust" is also one of the requirements in some airdrop or campaign they are running:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2109730
The thread is full of comments from users whose accounts were created probably just to talk only about this project.
I don't know if someone has purchased bumping service or creates these accounts by himself, but it looks quite suspicious: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndefi-the-fastest-way-to-earn-defi-passive-income-5305207
It indeed looks suspicious and upon checking their announcement thread and website I found the evidence of making commenting on Ann thread one of the requirements for their airdrop which is against the forum rules. I don't know if someone has purchased bumping service or creates these accounts by himself, but it looks quite suspicious: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndefi-the-fastest-way-to-earn-defi-passive-income-5305207
I reported the thread to moderators and hopefully it gets deleted soon.
The thread is full of comments from users whose accounts were created probably just to talk only about this project.
I don't know if someone has purchased bumping service or creates these accounts by himself, but it looks quite suspicious: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndefi-the-fastest-way-to-earn-defi-passive-income-5305207
I don't know if someone has purchased bumping service or creates these accounts by himself, but it looks quite suspicious: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndefi-the-fastest-way-to-earn-defi-passive-income-5305207
You are absolutely right. @Rikafip, you can add this thread to the list.
A bunch of newbie accounts that have been dormant since 2019 to suddenly start bumping this topic. Definitely some form of paid bumping spam 'service'.
[ANN][DeFi] The fastest way to earn DeFi passive income.
The thread is full of comments from users whose accounts were created probably just to talk only about this project.
I don't know if someone has purchased bumping service or creates these accounts by himself, but it looks quite suspicious: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndefi-the-fastest-way-to-earn-defi-passive-income-5305207
I don't know if someone has purchased bumping service or creates these accounts by himself, but it looks quite suspicious: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndefi-the-fastest-way-to-earn-defi-passive-income-5305207
You would think that for that kind of money they could buy a few decent accounts to give some things some form of legitimacy.
I have some doubts about certain group of higher ranked accounts being part of a more serious bumping group that is doing that in a much better way than Vitor Services and similar spammers, but it is not easy to connect all the dots and say with 100% certainty who is part of the group and who is not.But, I guess in the end it's just scammers scamming the scammers.
Merry Christmas.
You summed it up nicely, in most cases it boils down to that, dodgy projects hiring dodgy service. And Merry Christmas to you too!Merry Christmas.
There are also people selling bump services very cheap on fiverr and other websites like that for few dollars, and with multiple accounts it is not so hard for anyone to do that because they don't need any higher ranked accounts for that.
Vitor services is next level stuff
I just checked fiverr, and it doesn't seem so cheap. I saw packages like 10 posts for 17 USD and for me that's pretty expensive considering the lack of quality. It makes more sense to run BTC signature campaign that hire those spammers.Vitor services is next level stuff
One more announcement thread has been added
[ANN] Mirror Protocol Launch - Trade real-world assets with crypto now!
Same group of accounts that is working on xpocket and that scam XeniumX started working on the Mirror Protocol thread too. Since I tagged that group of accounts, as always they just activated another group of newbie accounts and continued in the same manner. Whack-a-mole goes on.
There are also people selling bump services very cheap on fiverr and other websites like that for few dollars, and with multiple accounts it is not so hard for anyone to do that because they don't need any higher ranked accounts for that.
Vitor services is next level stuff
Vitor services is next level stuff
$1500 a month for that kind of crap-show?
Wow, time to change my line of work.
If the posts al least did not totally suck OR if there were some users with some kind of quality behind them it would be different.
You would think that for that kind of money they could buy a few decent accounts to give some things some form of legitimacy.
But, I guess in the end it's just scammers scamming the scammers.
Merry Christmas.
-Dave
Wow, time to change my line of work.
If the posts al least did not totally suck OR if there were some users with some kind of quality behind them it would be different.
You would think that for that kind of money they could buy a few decent accounts to give some things some form of legitimacy.
But, I guess in the end it's just scammers scamming the scammers.
Merry Christmas.
-Dave
In your research have you found how much these bumping / marketing agencies charge?
Somehow I never thought of asking how much exactly do those "marketing agencies" charge when few admitted of hiring them, but there is one source that can give us some ballpark figure. Some time ago @nutildah identified probably the biggest bumping service on the forum, Vitor Services. In that thread you can see that they offer various packages, from 390 USD per month up to 1490 USD per month. In that cheapest package you get: 500 telegram members, 150 comments in telegram group and 100+ ANN thread comments. If they charge let's say half of that for only ANN thread comments, that's still decent amount of money for such a crappy job they are doing. 100 posts per month would make an average of approximately 3 posts per day, and from my experience frequency of those posts is much higher, so more expensive packages are probably more popular.
I called them probably the biggest group as I think that they are responsible for at least 50% of all bumping spam on the forum, and that is conservative estimate. If you dig deep enough you can connect their accounts to almost every newly added ANN on the list. They also like to use old newbie accounts made years ago, that's one of their "trademarks".
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