And I can't, I have an ID card, of course, the card is valid but the date is expired, our gov. made some changes while back about it, so a lot of us have an ID card considered valid by the gov but the cards are showing an expired date.
What country? I doubt this is the case in any country, maybe you're right about some shithole like Haiti though... 
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November 15, 2017, 06:22:40 PM
November 15, 2017, 01:01:10 PM
Yes, and those restrictions/verifications shouldn't bother you if you are really using these services for legitimate uses, such as remittance, salary and such.
It can bother people even those who are using those services for legitimate uses. As I said, It was less strict before and over the years they add verifications of all kind, up to take selfie or video call and so on. They don't invent new rules/laws for fun. They do because of abuses/misuses/frauds. And some are not able to meet their requirements.
I can give you an example. There is a service that I was using and all working fine and then a day they decided to add a new verification stuff. Need to send again ID card. And I can't, I have an ID card, of course, the card is valid but the date is expired, our gov. made some changes while back about it, so a lot of us have an ID card considered valid by the gov but the cards are showing an expired date. Hard to explain this to foreign companies, some countries accept and some not. In some countries, you can be fired back to your country for an illegal situation, like a refugee!
You can say: So what, get a new card. Yes, the problem is the gov doesn't want to provide us a new card as the old is still valid, so there is no need for their point of view. The only solution is going to the police and lie to them telling you got robbed and inventing a fake story, which no one, including myself, want to do.
It's just an example but I can give other examples as well. So you see, people with legitimate uses can be affected for all this
November 15, 2017, 10:58:29 AM
It's called frauding and It's the reason that over the years there are more and more restrictions/verifications to be able to use those type of services in peace.
Yes, and those restrictions/verifications shouldn't bother you if you are really using these services for legitimate uses, such as remittance, salary and such.I wouldn't be surprised if your fake accounts that you're trying to sell will not work or just a period of time, resulting in losing money for those buying this kind of fraud.
The accounts should be valid until end of September 2018, and after they are almost guaranteed to be blocked, because the CRS/AEoI report will say no such person exists. If a potential buyer transfers huge transactions or something like that, they might disable the account before that due to KYC/AML laws, but that is not my problem, just stupidity from the buyer. For normal transactions there is no reason to block these accounts, since they are for now and until October 2018 still completely valid and legitimate. November 15, 2017, 09:29:47 AM
Hi guys, I'm selling verified accounts (via escrow only) mentioned in this thread (Sogexia, Leupay, iCard, Glob-coin...) if someone is interested: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-verified-emi-accounts-with-personal-unique-ibans-2360666
It's called frauding and It's the reason that over the years there are more and more restrictions/verifications to be able to use those type of services in peace. The one who struggles is the one trying to use them without trying to cheat. You and the one you are selling to can, in fact, have some problems with the justice in the long run.
I wouldn't be surprised if your fake accounts that you're trying to sell will not work or just a period of time, resulting in losing money for those buying this kind of fraud.
November 15, 2017, 08:09:31 AM
Hi guys, I'm selling verified accounts (via escrow only) mentioned in this thread (Sogexia, Leupay, iCard, Glob-coin...) if someone is interested: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-verified-emi-accounts-with-personal-unique-ibans-2360666
November 03, 2017, 11:13:29 AM
Do you know what the limits of Paysera, Glob-coin, Mistertango cards are?
Daily, weekly, monthly, yearly. Purchase and ATM cash withdrawal.
Daily, weekly, monthly, yearly. Purchase and ATM cash withdrawal.
October 31, 2017, 08:21:11 PM
I just tested paysera visa card, but cant` fund it because it does not support p2p transfer at cex.io 
and I presume wire transfer from BTC exchanges are no no
Yes, you are right, quote from their website:and I presume wire transfer from BTC exchanges are no no
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According to the rules for usage of Paysera system, clients are prohibited from managing unlicensed virtual currencies (e.g. bitcoin). Therefore, transfers to systems which exchange such currencies are not performed.
I saw some people complaining that their Paysera account was closed after they got money from bitcoin exchanges. October 31, 2017, 06:47:41 PM
I just tested paysera visa card, but cant` fund it because it does not support p2p transfer at cex.io
and I presume wire transfer from BTC exchanges are no no
and I presume wire transfer from BTC exchanges are no no
October 30, 2017, 02:39:55 PM
I've never used localbitcoins.com, but don't you transfer directly to a personal bank account of a seller/buyer, so it's impossible for them to know what the transfer was for? In this case, all of these services can still be used to buy/sell bitcoin.
Yes, you are right. The cash transfer takes place directly between counterparties. And everything is good until somebody says BTC. The bank can ask questions. And if you answer something generic about goods and services it should do just fine. But what if your counterparty is not that aware and says straight it's a deal on localbitcoins? Sad but these days some banks treat BTC as a money laundring instrument.My research was aimed at mitigating this risk of being caught by unfriendly bank.
October 30, 2017, 02:30:32 PM
I've never used localbitcoins.com, but don't you transfer directly to a personal bank account of a seller/buyer, so it's impossible for them to know what the transfer was for? In this case, all of these services can still be used to buy/sell bitcoin.
October 30, 2017, 02:22:44 PM
Can't you still use it for localbitcoins.com selling/buying? Same goes for all the others that don't allow sending to exchanges.
Well if you feel Ok about losing your money some day then yes.Check out the link I've given for LeuPay case in the same post. A guy had his account blocked and lost money. And that is not even on their terms and conditions. So they can invent a violation on the run if needed.
October 30, 2017, 02:02:27 PM
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Can't you still use it for localbitcoins.com selling/buying? Same goes for all the others that don't allow sending to exchanges. Quote
We cannot support transfers from or to Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency, directly or indirectly, through our services.
I tried and my transfer was cancelled because of this rule. October 30, 2017, 07:19:23 AM
Hi everyone,
Let me share results of my little research on the suggested list agains 2 criteria: eligibility for different countries and is the service bitcoin-friendly?
Let me share results of my little research on the suggested list agains 2 criteria: eligibility for different countries and is the service bitcoin-friendly?
| Service | Countries | BTC-friendly | Links |
| Glob-coin | Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, | Probably, yes? | Countries |
| Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, | |||
| Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom | |||
| Paysera | Worldwide | Not really* |
October 21, 2017, 08:20:48 PM
Number 26 is only EU zone + few more states I can add about Mistertango that you can withdraw up to €200 once a month for free. And if it wasn't mentioned previously, EU residents can order free MasterCard debit card without monthly fees.Mistertango ATM fee is 2% Correction to your post above: everyone can order their card, not just EU residents. I have their Hercus card and I don’t live in Europe. I got it without paying any fees. I can use it once a month up to 200 Euros without paying a fee. For amounts beyond 200 there is a modest fee which is OK. The only thing I am not happy about is the card’s annual transaction limit of 20k Euros. But it’s not the end of the world. To expand my limits I simply move the money by SEPA to my account in Germany. Mistertango comes with an IBAN account which is the feature I love most. October 21, 2017, 08:07:11 PM
Number 26 is only EU zone + few more states I can add about Mistertango that you can withdraw up to €200 once a month for free. And if it wasn't mentioned previously, EU residents can order free MasterCard debit card without monthly fees. Mistertango ATM fee is 2% October 21, 2017, 07:16:55 AM
Number 26 is only EU zone + few more states
Mistertango ATM fee is 2% October 21, 2017, 06:18:59 AM
Its a bit stupid to search just for free banks as they kill you with fees There are decent completely free options line Number 26 and Mistertango. If you specifically want some non-free options then look through this thread because several have been mentioned through this thread already. But I don't think there can be a service matching n26...I would not mind to pay monthly/year fee for a safe banks that is secure and have low fee and high limits, for me problem is I am not in EU zone + I can not make a wire transfer in my name, as I need to have invoice as my shit terrorist state ask me for it for any wire transfer out of border first most important is debit card load fee and ATM fee Also I found another non-free service It's called onlinekonto and it's yet another e-banking service from Germany with a dedicated IBAN and debit card. There are monthly fees though. October 21, 2017, 02:14:29 AM
Wow. Good topic. Did not know so much was possible "for free". Will try to find some online reviews before opening an account.
October 20, 2017, 05:13:57 PM
And you must take care, if you use private bank accounts. Some banks seem to lock accounts, if you have many or high non periodic incomes, because they assume use for business. Before you open an account, google the bank for reviees also on this aspect.
October 20, 2017, 01:43:50 PM
Its a bit stupid to search just for free banks as they kill you with fees
I would not mind to pay monthly/year fee for a safe banks that is secure and have low fee and high limits, for me problem is I am not in EU zone + I can not make a wire transfer in my name, as I need to have invoice as my shit terrorist state ask me for it for any wire transfer out of border first most important is debit card load fee and ATM fee Jump to:
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