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Topic: List of motherboard that require shorting pin A1 B17 for pci-e 1x to work. (Read 99824 times)

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i think Foxconn is bad one to use
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Hey guys, I have an old motherboard (5 years) that has 3 pci x1 slots but I can't get my riser to work. My riser has an extra molex connector, so would I still need to add the jumper wire? And if I do add the jumper correctly, is there any risk that I should be aware of?
Just out of curiosity, why is the jumper wire even needed?

EDIT: Holy crap I can't believe this worked on a 5 year old motherboard (and didn't blow up in my face). Thanks!
I didn't have any spare wires around so I took off some from my (also very old) phone charger. It still works as you as you reconnect the cables back.

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Too bad the 7th card didn't work. I want to switch to Windows so I can overclock these and essentially get a 7th card's worth of hashing.
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Well, just tried #7.  System booted and recognized the card, but when trying to mine, it would just shut down after about 2-3 minutes.  Sad
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CyberCrist, I was able to get 6 EVGA 750Ti FTW cards running on the ASRock Z87 Killer.

BIOS
PCI-E 1 (gen2)
PCI-E 2 (gen1)
PCI-E 3 (gen1)
Also disabled integrated graphics and changed PEG0 De-emphasis Control to -6dB

PHYSICAL
PCI-E 1 (x1)   --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 2 (x16) --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 3 (x1)   --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 4 (x1)   --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 5 (x16) --> 750 TI (1x USB riser, shorted)
PCI-E 6 (x1)   --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 7 (x16) --> EMPTY

It's messy at the moment and I have to clean up now that it's working but here are pics for proof.  It's funny, we're very close in the equipment we used Smiley  I tried using a bootable Linux USB stick but had issues so I'm using an old hard drive.  I have an EVGA 750W PSU but it's only pulling about 460W from the wall.  These cards run very cool.  I don't have a 7th card to try and I likely won't.  For some reason I couldn't get a ribbon riser (also shorted) to work in the PCI-E 5 (x16) slot and when I tried a USB riser, it worked.  I have a monitor plugged into the PCI-E 2 (x16) slot.  Just like you I don't want to mess with it now that it works.

I am upset that I can't overclock these cards in Linux.  There's so much more potential.  What speeds are you getting with all 6?  I am getting about 1550 KH/s mining Litecoin with CudaMiner.

Pretty funny how close our setup's are.

With all 6 I'm averaging about 1522 khash/s, with a 99.78% acceptance rate.  Not bad at all.  Kill-o-watt say 468W which is pretty dang good.  This setup is to replace a machine that is running two R9 280x's.  They pull ~650W and get about 1430 khash/s, but heat up the damn garage way too much.

http://www.neochron.net/mining/screenshot.jpg
newbie
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CyberCrist, I was able to get 6 EVGA 750Ti FTW cards running on the ASRock Z87 Killer.

BIOS
PCI-E 1 (gen2)
PCI-E 2 (gen1)
PCI-E 3 (gen1)
Also disabled integrated graphics and changed PEG0 De-emphasis Control to -6dB

PHYSICAL
PCI-E 1 (x1)   --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 2 (x16) --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 3 (x1)   --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 4 (x1)   --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 5 (x16) --> 750 TI (1x USB riser, shorted)
PCI-E 6 (x1)   --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 7 (x16) --> EMPTY

It's messy at the moment and I have to clean up now that it's working but here are pics for proof.  It's funny, we're very close in the equipment we used Smiley  I tried using a bootable Linux USB stick but had issues so I'm using an old hard drive.  I have an EVGA 750W PSU but it's only pulling about 460W from the wall.  These cards run very cool.  I don't have a 7th card to try and I likely won't.  For some reason I couldn't get a ribbon riser (also shorted) to work in the PCI-E 5 (x16) slot and when I tried a USB riser, it worked.  I have a monitor plugged into the PCI-E 2 (x16) slot.  Just like you I don't want to mess with it now that it works.

I am upset that I can't overclock these cards in Linux.  There's so much more potential.  What speeds are you getting with all 6?  I am getting about 1550 KH/s mining Litecoin with CudaMiner.

https://i.imgur.com/oHLnuXc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/G9wdOC5.jpg
newbie
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Update:

PHYSICAL
PCI-E 1 (x1)   --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 2 (x16) --> 750 TI (16x riser)
PCI-E 3 (x1)   --> EMPTY (shorted)
PCI-E 4 (x1)   --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 5 (x16) --> 750 TI (16x riser)
PCI-E 6 (x1)   --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 7 (x16) --> 750 TI (16x riser)

It's been mining all night.  Not sure if I want to try PCI-E 3... that sort of "what if it don't work after i make a change" mentality.

http://www.neochron.net/mining/six-miners_832x624.jpg
newbie
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So here is what I got working on the ASRock Z87 Killer

BIOS
PCI-E 1 (gen2)
PCI-E 2 (gen1)
PCI-E 3 (gen1)

PHYSICAL
PCI-E 1 (x1)   --> EMPTY
PCI-E 2 (x16) --> 750 TI (no riser)
PCI-E 3 (x1)   --> EMPTY (Blocked by PCI-e 2)
PCI-E 4 (x1)   --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 5 (x16) --> 750 TI (16x riser)
PCI-E 6 (x1)   --> 750 TI (1x riser, shorted)
PCI-E 7 (x16) --> 750 TI (16x riser)

I have not been able to get PCI-E 2 (x16) to be recognized on a riser at all, either 1x or 16x
I have not been able to get PCI-E 5 or PCI-E 7 to be recognized with 1x risers.

I would love to get the 6th card up and running on this board.

Ideas?
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I have 7 cards setup - works ok, but requires a monitor to boot. 5 cards setup on same MB - does not require monitor connected - not sure what this problem connected to (

Micax1, on the ASRock Z87 Killer (Fatal1ty), did you have to short any of the pins in the PCI-e slots to get all 7 GPUs to work/be recognized?

I'm running 2x rigs with 6x GPUs per on this same board. Works fine, but i can't get the 7th working or I get video errors when the Xorg tries to start. Possible driver issue (R9 290s and R9 280Xs)? Other than that the board is a champ, but yet it requires shorting of anything other than a 16x->16x riser, so that means USB risers require shorting in all ports. I'd avoid the first 1x as it seems to be the most problematic.

Good info nvandertill, I've still got a couple questions to make sure I understand what you've done to the board.

I've got 3 cards plugged directly into the 16x slots (without touching the bios). If I want to install cards in the 1x slots using risers do I need to ground each 1x slot? When grounding using 68 Ohm resistors you just need to plug the resistor into B17 only (not A1 or any other ground), right?

I think I know the answers, just want to make sure.

Thanks in advance
newbie
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Use the same resistors you would use for making a dummy plug. They are a perfect firm fit to stick far down in the hole. Get your mind out of the gutter. Available at radioshack.
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whats a good way to short these cables? I tried cutting a molex->pcie cable but the small wires are very hard to fit into the holes
newbie
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I have 7 cards setup - works ok, but requires a monitor to boot. 5 cards setup on same MB - does not require monitor connected - not sure what this problem connected to (

Micax1, on the ASRock Z87 Killer (Fatal1ty), did you have to short any of the pins in the PCI-e slots to get all 7 GPUs to work/be recognized?

I'm running 2x rigs with 6x GPUs per on this same board. Works fine, but i can't get the 7th working or I get video errors when the Xorg tries to start. Possible driver issue (R9 290s and R9 280Xs)? Other than that the board is a champ, but yet it requires shorting of anything other than a 16x->16x riser, so that means USB risers require shorting in all ports. I'd avoid the first 1x as it seems to be the most problematic.
newbie
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I have 7 cards setup - works ok, but requires a monitor to boot. 5 cards setup on same MB - does not require monitor connected - not sure what this problem connected to (

Micax1, on the ASRock Z87 Killer (Fatal1ty), did you have to short any of the pins in the PCI-e slots to get all 7 GPUs to work/be recognized?
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SESAME
just want to confirm that the Asus Striker II formula requires pins shorting on both x1 slots and x16 slots when using x1-x16 risers.


Side note: Those Asrock H61 and H81 BTC motherboards are great, I have one of each and they both run 6 x 7970's no problem, no messing with settings or pins, everything on default and everything just works as it should, and they are cheap too.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-H61-BTC-Motherboard-Capacitor/dp/B00HDP6TPA

Edit: forgot to mention, I find i can run the same cards about 3.5% faster in the Asrock BTC boards compared to the asus board, i dont know why because the asus board is a good board too designed for overclocking. Basically the asrock boards pay for themselves fairly quick.
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Tested on Albatron PXP35 Rev 2.0 works on first PCI-E x1 with shorting. Second PCI-E x1 does not work.

Going to try a few other motherboards this week.
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hi guys
im using 4x7970 on z87a mobo with 3220 haswell
i want tot add 5th card but not detecting by windows
im using powered risers and x1 slots are ok  the second x16 slot not recocnizing gpu

This is my same problem bros, shorting the first x16 wont work as well :/
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Hey Guys, i have Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H  does it need shorting in order to run 4 GPUS? because right now i cant get my pc to recognize PCI-E 1


http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4518#ov
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Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, Finally got it stable with 6 cards

Lots of problems with the mobo at first, some cards would work with 1x extenders and some wouldn't and never got it to detect 6 cards at the same time. Ended up solving it by shorting A1 to B17 in the 16x_2 and 8x slot and it seems to have fixed it (16x_1 slot might have to be shorted as well but got a card in that slot that seems to work in any motherboard and slot no matter what, pins are shorted on the card itself perhaps?) 4x and 1x slots working by default. Using flexible 1x extenders in all slots.

 

I realise this post is a bit dated but I hope the OP will see it.

I would really appreciate some more detail here. I have two of these Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 boards and I am damned if I can get anymore than 3 5850's working on each board. Each board acts exactly the same. That is after trying all of the above and anything else that I can think of.  ie 16 -> 16 extenders 1 -> 16 extenders powered and non powered, jumpers and no jumpers. It simply will not see the cards in the "lspci" command.

Specifically what version of the Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 are you talking about and which version of Bios are you using?? I have the current Bios Version F8 installed. My board is marked as "V 1" ie it is the version that came preflashed for the AMD Bulldozer chip whereas I believe the earlier boards did not. I am starting to wonder if there may have been other changes made as well

I am trying to use Xubuntu 11.04 64b, SDK 2.4 with 11.6 drivers and CGMiner 2.3.2 -4.2.

Thanks



what about ud3???
does it require this method too??
sr. member
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i got my 5-GPU-Rig running last night (Without shorting)
i had to put one GPU direct in the PCIe16 Slot (the other 4 work with x1-x16 Risers)

Does the 5th card work, when i put it in a x16-x16 riser for this slot or has it to be on the mainboard directly?

MB: ASRock 970 Ex4
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I'd just like to say that my BOXER61 (Acer eMachines mobo) required this on the x1 slot.
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