[List]Gambling Board Spammers; Concerns, Solutions & Suggestions - page 4.

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Quote from: Poker Player on September 05, 2022, 04:46:53 AM

I just remembered this thread, when visiting one of the gambling section:

Kings Club Poker, semi-private games, mainly for serious poker players

This reply, this reply and this one are pure garbage disguised as a supposedly certain quality by the lenght of the answer (they are not one liner spammers) and by saying things that to those who have some idea of poker but not much may perceive as meaningful.

Two of them are part of the spammer blacklist and I am not surprised that they write like this because it is clear that they have experience. They write in a way that is still garbage but may appear to be of some quality at first glance.

For me the problem is that they get paid for that.

I agree with you, some members are very talented to make long meaningless posts, not ashamed to repeat several times the same thing with different words frequently. It seems to prevent them from being reported to moderators and even from being removed from their campaign despite being already tagged as spammers, receiving almost no merit and posting hundreds posts by month, they even receive bonuses for their spam actually.

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I just remembered this thread, when visiting one of the gambling section:

Kings Club Poker, semi-private games, mainly for serious poker players

This reply, this reply and this one are pure garbage disguised as a supposedly certain quality by the lenght of the answer (they are not one liner spammers) and by saying things that to those who have some idea of poker but not much may perceive as meaningful.

Two of them are part of the spammer blacklist and I am not surprised that they write like this because it is clear that they have experience. They write in a way that is still garbage but may appear to be of some quality at first glance.

For me the problem is that they get paid for that.

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Quote from: m_nief on September 04, 2022, 11:43:35 PM

May I know what criteria called with gambling board spammer?

Do you have any posts deleted on the gambling board so far? If yes, then I think it can be a consideration for you to get answers about the spam post category on the gambling board. Wherever you post, if the quality is poor then it can be considered as spam.

Quote from: m_nief on September 04, 2022, 11:43:35 PM

I saw in several user got tag as as gambling board spammer make their viewed about soccer predicting, discussing about their favorite team and some time they post about match result.

Ask the person who tagged him, he can definitely give the answer. I'm just assuming that the poster is just spamming and maybe making some repeat mistakes. But trust feedback is not to tag spammers, it should be used for something to do with trading or anything like that. Report spammers and their spam posts, that's much more recommended as I think it's the moderator's job to deal with it.

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May I know what criteria called with gambling board spammer?
I saw in several user got tag as as gambling board spammer make their viewed about soccer predicting, discussing about their favorite team and some time they post about match result.
I can't imagine user got tag with gambling board spammer when posting about soccer match result, make predicting about team winner before games began.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on September 04, 2022, 10:04:55 AM

Quote from: _BlackStar on September 03, 2022, 04:20:52 PM

Having lots of posts doesn't mean they are spammers, on the other hand having few posts doesn't mean they are good posters either. Quality is judged based on what you write and it really depends on the knowledge and perspective of everyone who judges.

I totally agree with your assumption, there is no fixed standard in post quality assessment because every user has a different point of view. But as long as it's written constructively in the thread then I don't think it's spam.

It is not just his assumption, it is the facts. Spam is not defined by the quantity of posts but by their quality. And, besides, moderation standards are in place to ensure that this forum remains a friendly and welcoming environment for everyone who participates here.

You made a list of the Top 100 most active members in the Gambling board. That is fine, but that does not mean they are spammers. If you want to make a list of the biggest spammers on the forum, check the moderation logs.

https://bpip.org/Profile?id=1189222

If one out of every six of your posts gets deleted by the moderators, it is quite clear that you are violating the forum rules. A lot.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on September 03, 2022, 04:20:52 PM

Having lots of posts doesn't mean they are spammers, on the other hand having few posts doesn't mean they are good posters either. Quality is judged based on what you write and it really depends on the knowledge and perspective of everyone who judges.

I totally agree with your assumption, there is no fixed standard in post quality assessment because every user has a different point of view. But as long as it's written constructively in the thread then I don't think it's spam.

Quote from: JollyGood on September 03, 2022, 04:32:05 PM

That is what I am asking him, did he call himself a spammer yet at the same time contradict himself by saying he was not a spammer or a lesser spammer? And all those on his great list (including myself) also spammers?

I'm not saying you're a spammer even if you're in the top 100 posters list on the gambling board. Each user will be judged on a case by case basis and posters deemed good are not worthy of being called spammers. It is an incomplete list for posters on gambling boards, and in that post I just advised the OP that the full list must have spammers if he wants to add them to his ignore list in the future.

Quote from: Danydee on September 04, 2022, 08:20:58 AM

KTChampions ? ? All what I know about him is that is a real champion in all what belongs to sports predictions etc.

You only highlight posters that you think are good, but indirectly you have ignored spammers. Find out how many 1xbit posters who no longer care about their reputation are on the list I posted but I wonder why some of you don't want to talk about it but seem to think I've rated the top posters there so badly.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on September 03, 2022, 02:13:33 PM

I have a great list for you if you really want to identify more spammers on the gambling board, but because the list is long, it's only the top 100 in the last 34 days I've add in the list.

https://ninjastic.space/search?after_date=2022-08-01T00%3A00%3A01&before_date=2022-09-03T23%3A59%3A59&board=56&child_boards=true

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1. KTChampions [379]
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KTChampions ? ? All what I know about him is that is a real champion in all what belongs to sports predictions etc. ..

Taking a quick look in his post history maybe show that he's very present in the gambling boards but taking the time to see into his messages clearly show that he is very far from what can be considered as a spammer ! All his interventions are pertinents and well structured!

Alought I see your list is pretty huge to say you have checked every user's conduct!

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 03, 2022, 04:32:05 PM

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 04, 2022, 01:33:23 AM

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Looks like you two misunderstood indah rezqi post, I don't think he's saying everyone on the list is spammers, but maybe he just wanted to say some of them are spammers if the OP wants to really do some research. But I hope indah rezqi comes to explain for you.

Even if your name is in the top 100 posters based on that list, I would never consider you a spammer if you really care about quality. If I review the list, then there are several 1xbit posters on the list that you might think of as spammers all along. So I thought it was just a list of active poster name on gambling board for the past month, but not all of them are spammers but yes there are spammers too. I'm just thinking positive at the moment.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on June 22, 2022, 03:28:28 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on June 22, 2022, 01:21:36 AM

Maybe some campaign managers feel pressured in to filling slots therefore allow many things to take place which they normally would not. It depends on the campaign manager and also on the business being promoted. I agree, lowering payment and bonuses will probably bring an even lower quality of post from spammers but there is no easy solution except to self-moderate threads in boards where signature spammers and scammers are running riot.

It's not up to campaign manager all the time I think. Sometimes, project representative also mention some rules and among them, I have always seen they have a high number of post requirements in gambling sector. Personally, I don’t like to force users to post on any section but projects requires a minimum number. Campaign manager can recommend to lower it which I did too but sometimes, you can't follow your own. You have to hear the project owner.

I don't understand why "project owners" as you say don't pay participants with free bets/spins/chips? It would guarantee them to have posters knowing their platform and being real gamblers. They could also ask a minimum weekly wager requirement on their platform to be accepted and kept in their campaign or at least some proofs like a gambling history sent by PM showing that the participant is a real active gambler.

Quote from: stompix on August 04, 2022, 04:35:40 AM

I went through a few of those megatrends, I wonder if even 5% of the post would qualify as being about gambling.
Since I'm pretty sure a lot of the posters don't actually gamble or don't have a clue how to place a bet other than on the winner, most of the discussions there could be classified as football fans talking about their team, one post in one hundred talks about spreads, about handicaps about anything, it's about X beat Y so they might beat Z, A is a great player or bad one, xerox copies.

I totally agree with you, they don't even try to make predictions most of the time. Since they don't know anything about gambling they just make posts about the last game or race they've watched on TV, listened on the radio or read on a sports newspaper.

Quote from: stompix on August 04, 2022, 04:35:40 AM

That being said, I've been always curious, in that whole mess of a board, is there a horse racing topic as I haven't seen one and it's the only spot I actually gamble on, not just watch.

You are right, it would be a very interesting thread though. It's sad to see that real bettors like you don't even dare to post there anymore. Sad

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I think he did not like it when his name was added to a list and he might have a case for being either upset or offended but I would like him to explain exactly what he means with his own list. Just by posting regularly in particular threads or boards does not make a member a spammer by default.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 04, 2022, 01:33:23 AM

Lol, that was interesting

I guess he thinks that those who posted more in the gambling section are the spammers while this is not the case. If this was the criteria then all the highest posters would have been declared spammers by now Tongue

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 03, 2022, 04:32:05 PM

Quote from: indah rezqi on September 03, 2022, 02:13:33 PM

I have a great list for you if you really want to identify more spammers on the gambling board, but because the list is long, it's only the top 100 in the last 34 days I've add in the list.

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100. JollyGood [95]
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434. indah rezqi [34]

Are you saying according to your great list:

I stand at #100 therefore = spammer?
you stand at #434 therefore you = spammer?

Quote from: _BlackStar on September 03, 2022, 04:20:52 PM

Quote from: indah rezqi on September 03, 2022, 02:13:33 PM

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Having lots of posts doesn't mean they are spammers, on the other hand having few posts doesn't mean they are good posters either. Quality is judged based on what you write and it really depends on the knowledge and perspective of everyone who judges. There's no set standard for it, but maybe when it's written over and over again on the same board or thread then they can be considered spammers.

You can tell the spammer's habits, they are quite easy to spot especially when they are just hiding on boards that hundreds or thousands other spammers like. Honestly I was surprised when you said yourself a spammer but in fact you rank up. That's kind of funny.

That is what I am asking him, did he call himself a spammer yet at the same time contradict himself by saying he was not a spammer or a lesser spammer? And all those on his great list (including myself) also spammers?

What am I reading from him?

Lol, that was interesting

I guess he thinks that those who posted more in the gambling section are the spammers while this is not the case. If this was the criteria then all the highest posters would have been declared spammers by now Tongue

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Quote from: indah rezqi on September 03, 2022, 02:13:33 PM

I have a great list for you if you really want to identify more spammers on the gambling board, but because the list is long, it's only the top 100 in the last 34 days I've add in the list.

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100. JollyGood [95]
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434. indah rezqi [34]

Are you saying according to your great list:

I stand at #100 therefore = spammer?
you stand at #434 therefore you = spammer?

Quote from: _BlackStar on September 03, 2022, 04:20:52 PM

Quote from: indah rezqi on September 03, 2022, 02:13:33 PM

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Having lots of posts doesn't mean they are spammers, on the other hand having few posts doesn't mean they are good posters either. Quality is judged based on what you write and it really depends on the knowledge and perspective of everyone who judges. There's no set standard for it, but maybe when it's written over and over again on the same board or thread then they can be considered spammers.

You can tell the spammer's habits, they are quite easy to spot especially when they are just hiding on boards that hundreds or thousands other spammers like. Honestly I was surprised when you said yourself a spammer but in fact you rank up. That's kind of funny.

That is what I am asking him, did he call himself a spammer yet at the same time contradict himself by saying he was not a spammer or a lesser spammer? And all those on his great list (including myself) also spammers?

What am I reading from him?

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Quote from: indah rezqi on September 03, 2022, 02:13:33 PM

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Having lots of posts doesn't mean they are spammers, on the other hand having few posts doesn't mean they are good posters either. Quality is judged based on what you write and it really depends on the knowledge and perspective of everyone who judges. There's no set standard for it, but maybe when it's written over and over again on the same board or thread then they can be considered spammers.

You can tell the spammer's habits, they are quite easy to spot especially when they are just hiding on boards that hundreds or thousands other spammers like. Honestly I was surprised when you said yourself a spammer but in fact you rank up. That's kind of funny.

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Quote from: ShowOff on September 02, 2022, 02:20:24 PM

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I know this list won't have any impact on my reputation, but either way I don't expect people to ignore me just because I'm on the list. I'm not even complaining about how someone wants to call me a spammer or want to report my posts for deletion, but I don't want them to ignore me just because some posts don't make sense. I also don't want to be under constant reproached for my past spamming habits, so that has to change now.

Quote from: Igebotz on September 02, 2022, 04:31:46 PM

I have yet to tag anyone on that list; it was only created to make some of the members aware that their position on the gambling board was inadequate, as well as to allow managers to pay more attention to them and to make them sit up because there is always room for improvement.

I believe when you want to flag everyone on the list because they are considered spammers then this thread should be moved to the reputation board for something called your blacklist. But I'm glad you still care enough about how many people are willing to make changes, as evidenced by the way you delete one of the users on your list.

Quote from: Igebotz on September 02, 2022, 04:31:46 PM

I'll go over your post history and take the appropriate action.

I'd be happy to hear that. Thanks.

I have a great list for you if you really want to identify more spammers on the gambling board, but because the list is long, it's only the top 100 in the last 34 days I've add in the list.

https://ninjastic.space/search?after_date=2022-08-01T00%3A00%3A01&before_date=2022-09-03T23%3A59%3A59&board=56&child_boards=true

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1. KTChampions [379]
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434. indah rezqi [34]

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Any list is handy but I think the problems with most lists would be about opinions of the one doing the compiling versus the opinions of those doing the reading and let us not forget there are those that appear on any such list but would staunchly defend their position and ask to be removed.

What cannot be denied by the majority would be obvious candidates that have consistently spammed but the remaining on any list could conflict as multiple cases could be put forward to fight allegations as they make their cases.

Quote from: Saint-loup on September 03, 2022, 06:12:32 AM

It's sad that nobody is talking about this thread in the gambling section because I wasn't aware of this useful thread. I'm looking for ignore lists of gambling spammers, because I can't bear scrolling dozens of garbage posts each time to find a rather interesting one.
So if anyone is interested in sharing one of these, don't hesitate to send me it through PM, I promise to keep that confidential.

But to be honest I think the simplest solution would be to open a sub section without visible signatures like the Ivory Tower or Serious discussions (or to hire 4 or 5 volunteer moderators fully dedicated to this section).

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It's sad that nobody is talking about this thread in the gambling section because I wasn't aware of this useful topic. I'm looking for ignore lists of gambling spammers, because I can't bear anymore scrolling dozens of garbage posts each time to find a rather interesting one.
So if anyone is interested in sharing one of these, don't hesitate to send me it through PM, I promise to keep it confidential.

But to be honest I think the simplest solution would be to open a sub section without visible signatures like the Ivory Tower or Serious discussions (or to hire 4 or 5 volunteer moderators fully dedicated to the gambling section).

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Quote from: indah rezqi on September 02, 2022, 12:41:39 PM

igehhh, I just realized that I've been on the list of members who you think have spammed the gambling board. I don't know how you rate the quality of my posts but I can only say that every post I make is based on true knowledge and information. I don't know how this has to happen, but I just really wanted to apologize if you thought I was a spammer.

I just hope you can consider removing me from your list by reviewing the quality of my posts again, but I admit that I am a spammer trying to do and understand how to use forum properly. I don't want to show myself right while others are wrong about how to rate me, but I just hope this will be a good reminder for me to maintain the best quality when posting. Thanks.

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indah rezqi

I have yet to tag anyone on that list; it was only created to make some of the members aware that their position on the gambling board was inadequate, as well as to allow managers to pay more attention to them and to make them sit up because there is always room for improvement. I review their posts on a weekly basis, and those who deserved to be removed were also removed from the list. As time passes, I will tag those I deem appropriate.

P.S. They are only poor gambling board posters who do not deserve to be paid for all the nonsense they post.

I'll go over your post history and take the appropriate action.

Quote from: KingsDen on September 02, 2022, 04:12:05 PM

In the updated list, if you could update them as not a code but name with hyperlink to the profit it would be nice and easy for others to view the profile easily.

A self-awareness tag to only those included.

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Quote from: Igebotz on September 01, 2022, 05:08:02 AM

Newly added.

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This is nice. A monthly update is making this thread unique. As I saw above, in the case of Indah resqi, any member of the forum, especially wearing a signature and getting paid weekly who sees their name in the spammers list would be concerned and tend to change. Else it could result to the manager of the company they are promoting to remove them from campaign.

In the updated list, if you could update them as not a code but name with hyperlink to the profit it would be nice and easy for others to view the profile easily.

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It's really up to the campaign manager to guard against this sort of spam. I really don't see much difference between this and most of the petty dramas that sig campaign folks start in order to post for pay. At least the gambling section is not so much crypto related so it's somewhat irrelevant. I feel like there is a never ending list of spammers though, so getting mad at them is a fool's errand. Look at the campaign managers and hold them responsible for paying users to post absolute shit.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on September 02, 2022, 12:41:39 PM

igehhh, I just realized that I've been on the list of members who you think have spammed the gambling board. I don't know how you rate the quality of my posts but I can only say that every post I make is based on true knowledge and information. I don't know how this has to happen, but I just really wanted to apologize if you thought I was a spammer.

I just hope you can consider removing me from your list by reviewing the quality of my posts again, but I admit that I am a spammer trying to do and understand how to use forum properly. I don't want to show myself right while others are wrong about how to rate me, but I just hope this will be a good reminder for me to maintain the best quality when posting. Thanks.

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indah rezqi

Spammer is just a term for those who post something useless, but that predicate can be changed due to its relative nature. For now I just think the middle ground is that you need to wait for igehhh's response to your request but this is just a list that shouldn't affect any user's reputation unless they will be ignored by a lot of people.

It's a bit unpleasant when you have a spammer status, but it won't always be pinned on someone when the quality of their posts continues to improve. I've proven that quality can be improved with awareness and will, but you can't stop someone from giving you bad judge on one or two things including post quality. So be patient, wait for igehhh to respond to that. By the way, congratulations for your new rank.

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