Topic: [List]Gambling Board Spammers; Concerns, Solutions & Suggestions - page 7. (Read 3778 times)

Many signature campaigns require only 5 posts in the gambling boards, so chances are you won't have to write 10.

If the campaign requirements are 10 or more posts in gambling boards, that's exactly what you get. People posting in discussions they don't understand or are interested in just to meet their quota. That's why it's better to lower the demands to 5 posts, and in that way there isn't pressure on the participants to write in the gambling boards more than what they normally would.   

The gambling boards have active moderators in Cyrus and hilariousandco, so those subs are covered. But it's not easy to win the battle over spammers. 

Well this is not good for the company that they promote if you will lower the requirement post -- they should always be visible on that two sections ^{[the gambling and gambling discussion board]}, 10 post requirement a week is very reasonable if you will spread it in the whole week, 2 posts a day in gambling board and it should be 14 posts in a week which is you will achieve the quota of your post ^{[I think that is not a problem]} and it will NOT create spam.
My advice is, dont interact with the topic that you dont know, for example --football, boxing, and basketball which is a very common topics there.
However, I think theymos should add moderators there since all signature campaigns now are related to gambling, what do you think?
If the participants know that their posts keep deleted and did not get paid after the week, they will surely make effort in the next post.

Yeah I do remember the scenario and if I'm not wrong the user was Dbc23
 
Some of the managers are also unfamiliar with the game, making it difficult to moderate participants. We do our best to help.

The 10 post requirement on the gambling board wouldn't be too much in my opinion ^{[for those who can afford it],} but I would definitely agree if the manager would reduce the requirement to 5 posts. It would definitely be better to prevent spam.

This is sure to be the most terrifying moderation for any football fan. They will definitely lose a place to talk about the team, the players and the condition of the team and the situation of the game. LOL

As someone who is active on another forum where for each season we get a new thread, I think that is a better solution than having everything in one huge topic, like its the case with NBA thread for example. To me it somehow looks cleaner and more organized than having last 7-8 season in one thread, like its the case with NBA topic where I used to be active.


It's not problem at all if you write 100% of your posts in gambling board (or any other board for that matter) as long as you are genuine poster and know what you are talking about. Someone can write only 5 out of 25 weekly posts in gambling board and still produce useless spam and its up to managers to weed out the shitposters.


I hated those when I was active in gambling board and I think if more people report those, shitposters would post them less. I wonder if managers automatically disqualify such posts as that could be another way to combat those.

The idea shouldn't be about creating new threads just because a new season has started. The idea is to create those threads as self-moderated so that spam and low-value content can be easily deleted by the thread starter. I agree with you that a new thread doesn't mean that the posts in it are good. They can all be awful. The new Champions League thread, for example, is self-moderated. To be fair, the old one was as well.

I like to post in the Serie A thread because I am interested in calcio. It qualifies as a spam megathread. I wouldn't mind someone creating a new one and making it self-moderated if it would get rid of some of the posts where people are just reporting the goal scorers in a match and the team position in the standings.

I don't buy the idea of having to create a new gambling thread for each season. It doesn't really change much of the outcome as, the game remains the game and users that frequent the gambling boards knows better to check out the last page to be updated or current on the on going discussions. A new season coming with a new thread doesn't change that. It only means, more threads to be archived or trashed and nothing changes with the threads title except for what season it is.

There are a lot of spams in the gambling board, haven't been there myself and where it gets really bad as I see it is, where some users gets to make 90-100% of there posts on the gambling board. That shit ain't cool to me but somehow, it's tolerated and so, the spams thrive. It's something to look into, so as to promote the learning values of the forum and not let th fun part cast a shadow on the part that requires users to share ideas on ways to develop and better understand the crypto space.

I know there are spammers everywhere and it's not just on gambling discussion boards. However maybe some less knowledgeable people have spam posts there for the purpose of fulfilling campaign requirements, of course that's the case but I also know about there is spam on other boards which are for the same purpose.

Managers will of course be responsible for checking the quality of posts from campaign participants, but the active contribution of users to reporting posts also makes the forum better. I remember how actmyname reported a number of my posts to the moderators, it was an unforgettable experience to this day and I regret it. It might be good to expect the maintainers to lower the number of mandatory posts about gambling, this will help reduce the gambling boards a lot from spam posts.

I highly doubt this would be possible, to add to what other members here have said, if this feature is implemented, I think it can be easily abused, imagine a scenario where I create a thread and hand it over to USER A to manage, and USER A has in time past had conflicts/misunderstanding with USER B and USER C.
USER B and C found my thread, had something meaningful to contribute, they posted their comments, USER A found their comments but because he/she is still holding grudges against USER B and C, he/she decided to delete their posts as a payback.

I will suggest you just keep reporting and allow the moderators to do their job.

Its good enough, But I will still suggest that you leave this to campaign managers to decide who gets a tag and who doesn't, we all have different  perspectives, levels of understanding/judgements of what a spam post really is, a post you consider as spam might not be considered as same by a campaign manager, so I will honestly suggest you leave the tagging for campaign managers, they are the judge, they go through all the posts before deciding which gets paid for and which doesn't, in a case where a user is an addicted spam poster, the campaign manager knows and is his or her responsibility to tag such account.
So tagging a user for low quality posts, I personally think is the responsibility of the manager of the campaign that user is participating in.

Do you remember the poster that wrote in my Premier League thread about predicting the score for a game that had already taken place a day earlier? Or the one you caught out because he was posting nonsense names about the teams and players (making them up as he went along) all for the sake of increasing post count?

For me it is a no-nonsense issue because self-moderated threads in high spam boards help keep those threads cleaner than those that have zero moderation and are a haven for signature spammers.

I like to think that I am good at that, but I guess I failed this time. Gg  


True, 10 posts in gambling board is nothing for a genuine user due nature of discussions there, but problem is that there are not enough genuine gambling board users on the forum and that forces managers to enforce rules like writing certain amount of posts in gambling board. Its sellers market and shitposters are taking advantage of that.


When majority of campaigns have that requirement, what do you think it will happen? Average signature participant will of course adjust his posting behavior to meet the demands. Rest assured if we get some well paid campaign that asks people to write in lets say off topic (or any other board for that matter) you would suddenly get bunch of members writing there.

'solely' on campaign managers? I wholly disagree with that, these campaigns are gambling casinos, and thus they would want their signature shown in the gambling area of the forum, i see absolutely nothing wrong in that; if you notice, signature campaigns that aren't related to casinos/gambling do not make any rule of a certain number of posts to be made in the gambling section.

If you are to blame anyone, then it should be the users who spam and not the CM or the campaigns, and mind you that most campaigns only require about 10 posts to be made in the gambling board per week and that is not too much for users with understanding of what they are writing. And imo i do not think users are 'forced' to post there, they applied for the campaigns themselves even after seeing its rules requires gambling posts, so that simply means they are accepting to make the required posts there, and should do it constructively.

New self-moderated threads for the upcoming season for those who want to enjoy quality discussion while also making money with some predictions and odds I'll be dropping on a daily basis.

⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread

⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Qualifying

⚽UEFA Conference League Discussion Thread

Thank you buwatress.



You miss the joke Rik. 

I honestly doubt that your topic somehow made mods more aware of the spam and just because the posts you reported weren't deleted doesn't mean that mods were not doing their job or ignoring them. I did my share of reports in gambling board when I was active in NBA thread and majority of posts reported were deleted.

I do agree that gambling board is full of members that have no idea about topics they are talking about but that's solely on signature campaign managers and their rules that force people to write there.

Yes, we can all agree that my post drew the attention of the mods, Right? and we are now receiving prompt responses as well; I will do some reporting and see how things go.. 

Yeah, I can understand the subjective aspect of it. If you feel more comfortable just reporting the ones which are clear spam then do that. I don't mind getting bad or unhandled reports obviously, so I might take a look at some of the places where there's a bit more spam around. I've been meaning to start reporting more again, anyway. Plus, it's one of the sections I'm fairly active in.

It might be the solution, self moderated threads for anything that users don't believe to be breaking the rules, but to be low quality enough to annoy them. At the end of the day, those that are actively participating will actually have a better feel for a user, if they're the ones communicating with them. Moderators get a report, and will have to look at the discussion, but we might not get a gist for what has happened prior. You know, someone talking about a transfer or whatever, might sound on topic enough, and okay quality to a moderator, because we only get a small picture.

However, the thread owner if they're reading absolutely everything from day one will recognise patterns of a user, and if they do the same thing over, and over. So, self moderated threads definitely do make sense in some scenarios, but for the above example I'd still recommend reporting them, since if it's a common occurrence of this user, they might need a little more persuading to cut it out. 

I'd recommend it in combination. Self mod for anything that's not breaking the forum guidelines, but is still you know not your original intention for starting the thread. If anyone dislikes it they can start a new thread. Otherwise, anything that's breaking the forum rules, it's always best to report them even if it's in a self modded thread.

Oh yeah. I do remember that now . It was only a couple months ago too. Sorry, I do tend to get a lot more messages these days.

Judging user posts is a bit subjective indeed, and I think moderators will have their own interpretation of handling reports. In the gray area the report is most likely not handled because the ongoing discussion can still be considered constructive if the user really understands the discussion.

I agree that the moderators have seen my report, and that's why they don't handle it. I've asked you in the previous PM about this case, so that makes me quite understand how things happen there.

Would you say they were rather subjective, and could pass as good or bad depending on the user reviewing it? Like, some posts are so obviously spam, there would be universal agreement. However, when you get to the borderline cases as I like to call them, that's when reports usually go unhandled. They've definitely been seen, I'm quite confident of that.

I usually leave reports unhandled, when I don't necessarily disagree why the post was reported, but don't think it warrants enough action. Although, my sections are fairly easy so this doesn't happen very often, but you can see when it does because the reports stay in the report queue for a long time, which gives me the assumption that other moderators also feel the same way about it. 

OP, thanks for your information but I think it's long been realized and even some forum contributors have been ignoring gambling board as much as they can afford and that's just as much as they are ignoring altcoin discussion board.

I don't like spam and it made me try to avoid spam posts as best as possible and it also made me decide to report a number of spammers to moderators over the time. I reported a number of spammer profiles and posts to the moderators on the gambling board ^{[some of which were handled good],} but from most of those reports I got unsatisfactory results as they were not handled to this day. I have said time and time again that my 100+ reports on the gambling board are not handled regardless of the reason and that made me stop doing it.

I admit that there are a number of signature spammers paid for bitcoin or altcoin who post spam there without good knowledge. Some of them are 100% active there just to avoid post deletion as reported, and this led me to ask one of the moderators how to go about it. I'm sure everything will be resolved on a case by case basis as the moderators also can't delete any user's posts that don't violate the rules even if they disagree. This perspective may have led you to suggest a thread of self-moderation on gambling boards so spammers can be suppressed, I certainly agree but I hope that doesn't prevent anyone from free speech. I like to report spam posts, and for your suggestions I'd also support them in case it's a very urgent matter.

I reported a few posts yesterday, and they were all handled as good. I was even expecting maybe one of them to be left as unhandled as it could've been subjective. So, the reports are getting handled, and I expect your reports were definitely seen.

If you don't feel like reporting, I could start reporting in that section. I'm there anyway, mainly for the UFC thread, though. I can also handle some of the newbie reports, but there isn't a whole lot of those in the last few months.