Topic: [List]Gambling Board Spammers; Concerns, Solutions & Suggestions - page 9. (Read 3677 times)

Very possible but probably that is never going to happen.

This will only lead to report the spam posts to moderators, best to report to moderators.

Good members on the gambling board can agree on one thing, to just volunteer users on gambling thread to create a new thread for each what will later be mega threads and make it self moderated, but I am not advising you about this, the person that created the self-moderated thread can be bias.

I expect immediately before the beginning of new season, new threads should be created for those mega threads, the threads are getting too long. But best not to be self-moderated and keep on reporting spam posts.

I'd say just report what you think is low quality. The moderators in that section are definitely active, and they'd probably welcome reports in that section. I only see newbie reports there, and they aren't that often, so I'm wondering if it might be the same for higher ranked accounts.

It would take the same amount of effort to report the posts, than to self moderate it yourself. Might be even quicker reporting, since you don't have to go through, and delete every post referencing that, whereas the moderator will.

Obviously, there might be a difference of opinion on certain posts. I can see a lot of subjective views being had on the quality of a post. Although, I do believe that the discussion should be resolved around gambling, and not just talking about a team or player for the sake of talking about sports, which I do believe is used quite a bit. I know that can be related at times, but it has to at least stem from a discussion about gambling, and not generic discussion. That's my view point anyhow. The moderators in that section, might have a different view.  

That doesn't really matter all that much, as it's a self moderated thread. If users don't like the way you're moderating a thread, they can open their own. Although, that does have its own set of problems, especially if we've got two almost identical threads, which are massing replies. Especially, if the spammers then post in both of them to get paid, which I suspect would be the case.


Yeah, I do believe it's possible. I believe the Wall Observer thread has been given this treatment in the past.

You've got the right users in Cyrus, and hilariousandco moderating the section. So, they'd likely have the permissions to do something like that. Different matter, whether they deem it appropriate or not, though.

Thanks for the note igehhh. I concur:

1. A lot of spam posts not just in discussion but in ANN threads. It's quite clear who posts with any meaningful understanding and who doesn't, I would even say it's quite clear who actually gambles and who doesn't (it's gambling isn't it?)

2. Megathreads don't always get their due though, not all of them are low value (again this is arguable but I actually see a lot of value in the WO thread, for example where there IS an active and knowledgeable community, and that alone warrants for the high frequency of posts otherwise would be considered shitposting. I'm guilty myself every now and then but I trust my campaign manager recognises this haha).

Because many campaigns also discourage mega thread posting if not outlaw them, you get the spammers opening new topics -- you see this a lot in Discussion but also creeping up in the main Gambling thread. Low quality content, no new discussion or angle, etc.

I agree that threads I opened could probably be turned to self-moderated (you named one but I have others also attracting spam) -- I don't mind moderating, though I might be accused of being too harsh, and could be biased to all the users I already know gamble (but that bias is good right?). It was just natural for me to NOT self-moderate to keep the thread censorship free but at this stage, I think the pro (less spam) is preferable to the con (possible censorship).

JollyGood's self moderation's a good example of how one could trim the fat, although I have to say at least one was opened despite existing ones -- should really have kept the existing topics (using the example of Champions League and EPL you used in OP) and moderate that together with others (is that possible?). Was there a reason JollyGood opened those new topics? To self-moderate?

Casinos sig campaign has the most signature participants on the forum, and because of the high demand for gambling-related posts from participants, the gambling discussion board has become a haven for signature spammers - why is this? I bet the majority of those who applied to those campaigns had no knowledge of the game, but because the rules require a minimum of 10 posts on the gambling board, most of these users with no knowledge of the game just spam the hell out of the board with low quality and offtopic discussion to complete post counts. I spend the majority of my time reporting, especially in the last few days, but that alone is ineffective.

The concern.



The Solutions

* Is there a way the admin can turn thread to a self- moderated thread and hand it over to another OP who is ready to moderate the thread? I will volunteer ^{I spend 90% of my time there.}

* Is a self-moderated thread the answer? Yes, it reduces spam; consider JollyGood self-moderated threads as an example; zero 1xbit spammers, zero low posts since the beginning of last season, we talked and agreed to keep it clean for quality discussion only, and the result is fantastic!

⚽ English Premier League Season: 2021/2022 ^{self-moderated} 356 spam posts deleted

⚽ FOOTBALL: UEFA Champions League 2021/22 Season FINAL Real Madrid vs Liverpool ^{self-moderated} 15 spam posts deleted

Now what threads are the spammers fishing on?

⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions by tokeweed

⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid by buwaytress

La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 by trofo

Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) by scaccomatt0

Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread by n30111

Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022   by trofo


My Suggestions!

• Lock the thread; create a self-moderated thread
• A new thread should be created at the beginning of every season. Old thread locked.
• Admin to convert the already existing thread to self-moderated.

Top gambling board spammers; excluded 1xbit spammers.

These users have zero knowledge of the game(Football) you can check their post history for details!

Gamgling board stats only!!!

Removed

N/B: Casino campaign managers should take note of these users. Added to ignore list.

Will a neutral tag with a bold message to these users be sufficient to send a signal to sig managers? Too harsh?