Topic: Livecoin participants should be tag? - page 6. (Read 3568 times)

LOL, who's they? It's only one DT who tagged participants while majority does express they wouldn't.

Why would he target the Livecoin only when there are campaign like sportsbet and bitcasino which have an open scam accusations?
I like him to answer this and please answer also if you have something to say.

almost sure those guys will also have the heavy heart in doing this red tagging seeing those who participants are doing good in the forum. but if you have to do a poll, you may just lose here. i also think its not good but come to think of it. there is not much we can do about it. if they have to do it, they'd do it. i encourage you if your alt is part of it, you better take off that signature before its too late. there are more signature campaigns coming anyway.

This doesn't answer my question. Can you talk with sense? Do I have to write again?


Because that's not subject to forum rules.


So they have no difference with livecoin which they also have the right to scam because red tagging by misusing the trust system looks like a scam also.
It doesn't matter if it's harsh as long as it's justifiable, people will not complain on that.

Lol he don't own the forum, neither any of us. This forum is open for everyone. If things went with the ownership of the forum, theymos would delete all the ANN threads of scam project, ban any kind of scam project promotion and any kind of shitcoin promotion. But he don't do any of this.

they all have the right to mark red to them. its harsh but its just how it goes, those participants can quit the livecoin campaign if they don't wanna be tagged. seem like an ultimatum is being posted already. they can remain in the campaign but the risk is there. an account here in bitcointalk is very important, they'd rather be joining the IEO campaign than those companies with issues if they don't wanna be at risk.

I love people that are hiding behind alts to speak their minds, very nice, much brave. 

You are right, of all the DT, it's weird that Hhampuz is the one tagging participants after he benefited from livecoin campaign, isn't it unethical?
But forget about that, he is misusing the trust system here like he doesn't care of the effect to the community and to the DTs who trusted him.


So we are in the same side here.

Giving a warning by reg tagging? Did you hear yourself?


For a certain condition which is to withdraw the application? Who is he? Did he own the forum?
He made unreasonable judgement but he can correct that by removing the negged trust and just make his own blacklist.

DT system isn't limited to DT, we all are responsible for choosing DT-1, thus DT-2. With our votes, DT get selected. So, if we all user the trust list system properly, no incapable DT will be selected.
Anyway, I also think that negative tag for this reason isn't appropriate. Hhampuz is giving them a warning because in Livecoin thread it's not possible to warn them, they are deleting the response. Hhampuz also admitted to remove the tag.

don't you think this is becoming centralize already?  livecoin has issues, its up to them to solve it but i think a warning to those participant of the campaign that they are helping a company that has an open accusation is enough. but tagging look a bit harsh. they are just same as me or anyone trying to earn few btc per week. just stating my opinion though its all still in your hands.

Your work is also getting the warranties that all the participants will be paid for their work, but you think that only you must get the warranties. It calls "hypocrisy", my little boy.


Good idea!

It was a question, my friend, cool your ass. Or KOOL AID ( nice reference, as for me)


No one make a single person registering on Livecoin by force. It's their choice. We just wearing signatures and writing posts with useful information (unlike some Meta/reputation/gambling section "trusted" members)
But one people will be tagged, and another will tell "Oh oh, i'm trusted member, look at my nice reputation, join my campaign, because i'm not Sylon or jamaleez, i'm trusted". For honest, we tag both of them or no one  



That's true, about your choice. And it's my choice to ask you or not where my money from Buzzshow. I will remind you, that some bounty managers got red tagged for promoting things where bounty participants were fooled.


It's obvious that Yahoo didn't read Livecoin scam thread because if he did that he would know some interesting facts:
1. I wrote some posts there, addressed to exchange and "vitcim" and didn't get answered from both.
2. "Victim" couldn't tell us precise balance of it's own account (except 750 MONA coins). Not in english topic, not in russian (i remember my balance on Bitfinex before it famous scam after 3 years)
3. We are in anarcho capitalistic society at some point of view. If you want free crypto society you need to forget about "laws" and start to read ToC. If you need regulation than you must accept KYC, faceID, taxes (33 % in USA and more than 40 % (depends from country to country) in EU).

I'm mostly asking. If Livecoin participants will be tagged, Hrampuz must tag Sportsbet.io participants, As i said abouve, it has 5 scam topics.

EDITED 1:

I ask you again:It's problem, because as i said above i doubt that you (and many other people) saw alive russian. We don't even talk about to live through slavs or understanding of thinking (mind) patterns. I'll tell you, as person who helped to promote scams a long time ago, in real life (and i'm very ashamed of this fact in my life. I was a poor student and working in techincal support in some postUSSR offline hypes): Theese "victims" doesn't looks like real victims. They're not behave like many real victims (from my experience).

EDITED 2: I will not angry on Hrampuz if he would tag me, but as long as i'm in DT2, i'll  counter any negative feedback which would be placed on useful russian members (i saw few accounts in Livecoin topic). No offense to Hrampuz, but it's not fair (in terms of great justice) when good mathematician or bitcoin contributor will be tagged by bounty manager.

EDITED 3 3.03 PM: promoted scams a long time before ago

These are just speculation, it would not help raise a valuable discussion.


You don't tag when you warned, red tagging is different by definition " You think that trading with this person is high-risk", don't deviate from the real meaning. Maybe tagging as neutral would be appropriate based on its meaning "Other comments.".

If we can use the tagging system properly, there would be no complains, DT's misusing the trust system leads to misleading forum members as that trust is visible.

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It matters to signature campaigners the most as it's part of the rules that having a negative rating from a DT would not make them qualify to join.
If that does not matter, you can remove that in your rule.

(1) And before I forget, you didn't answer to my reply, why not tag sportsbet.io and bitcasino also?
(2) red trusting participants because " You think that trading with this person is high-risk"?

Make me a script and I'll tag them all .

EDIT; Fwiw, ever since flags were introduced ratings became more like post-it notes so getting a negative barely matters anymore. Don't tell me they do because I can show you a few good examples. If people remove their application I remove the neg, it is that simple (:

Just too much work for the DT member to tag them and then change them to neutral or removed for hundreds of participants.SO just give warning and let them decide their own fate after that permanently.

May be your point is right, and it's possible to may not be also. Not every people create an account in bitcointalk, a crypto trader doesn't necessarily refer to a bitcointalk user. They only think of creating an account only to report the scam event. So, basically, you can't decide the truthfulness of the event by judging through the user rank only.

Good thing you are not a dick.

Let's not question your blacklist, everyone can make their own, even participants can make their own blacklist on campaign managers that they don't like.

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Can we all just focus to the topic which is " Livecoin participants should be tag? "

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This kind of question is irrelevant to the topic, you should change your behavior and participate on the discussion properly.

In this situation I believe this to be the appropriate response and I would hope other campaign managers take similar action. With the DT1 endorsed flags on both Livecoin and Livecoin Manager we still have a slew of Hero and Legendary members applying for this signature campaign. If anyone should understand a flag you would think it would be these types of members.

We are seeing how ineffective DT1 is when money is involved. Flags are flags.. nothing more.. this shows that when money is there it doesn't matter what DT1 does, we can only warn.

yahoo62278 has taken the most reasonable action here and is showing people that money over ethics isn't welcome here.
So no, I don't thing tags will do anything here.. but I do support any campaign managers blacklisting from future campaigns.

No, he is shady troll. It's ordinary tactic in russian local: blackmail, FUD, threats, trolling, escalation and others. Holy shit, it's odinary tactic and way of life in POST USSR LANDS.

Must be nice to be so ignorant. Do you always spout off at the mouth about things you do not know about? Just wondering cause it looks like you put a lot of effort into this post and basically have no idea if you are right or wrong.

My taxes are paid bud. I live in the USA and cash out my bitcoin via bitpay. Anything over 20k is reported to the IRS. Check their ToS, you'll see i'm correct. Not that that is any of your business.

Also, it doesn't matter what payment method I get from bounty campaigns or signature campaign owners. I do not make 1 single person join a bounty campaign. It's your choice. My job is to check that the work is done and that tokens are distributed. Nothing more. I cannot force a team to list 2 seconds after the ICO ends.

I'm not attacking participants by tagging them for joining the signature campaign, although if I were a dick you'd be the 1st tag i'd give. It's my prerogative to make a blacklist and decide that users who are supporting the exchange are not trustworthy.

You obviously didn't read the part in the scam thread where livecoin was trying to force the user to delete bad press against them before they'd respond to his claim? That in turn led to his money being held(which they 100% admit to). But we are hypocrites for your ignorance and you wanting to earn money from the scammers?

I think you are the hypocrite here and should probably not speak about a person unless you know what you're talking about.

It almost feels like all you Russian users are joining together because Livecoin is in your backyard. Grow up kid.

Please push me to your own personal blacklist. After show it to your mom.